[UNBANNED][CS] Unban Request - xeon (Jailbreak)

[~xeon]

Name: xeon, John, ambrosia 4 lyf !!
SteamID: STEAM_0:1:22337685
Reason: 'cus i can'
Date & Time: 17/02/2014
Admin: Panda-Style (Karam)
Server: Jailbreak
Have you been banned before: ye
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Other:
i asked to go CT, he transferred me. He started to get all hype and feisty, I said calm down and next thing i'm banned..

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[AMXBans] You have been banned from this Server by Admin Panda-Style.
[AMXBans] You are permanently banned.
[AMXBans] Banned Nickname: John
[AMXBans] Reason: 'cause i can'
[AMXBans] You can complain about your ban @ www.ambrosia-servers.eu
[AMXBans] Your SteamID: 'STEAM_0:1:22337685'
[AMXBans] Your IP:
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Kicked : You are BANNED. Check your console.

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[DonTodo #]

I demand u filling the form from this topic.
http://www.ambrosia-servers.eu/community/index.php?topic=12.0

After that u can request justice.

[Pim]

ehm... may i ask why the reason is cause i can?

panda style...?

[Hajrulla]

^
Because he can!

Aight,I was there last night,I "shouted" on the shoutbox that we need admins and Fouta showed as Panda-Styles,after that I told him what's going on,most of the players that were CT were just freekilling,and "trolling" xD! They're players from Neon-Dragon.
I hope they'll get a chance,because ban perm. for selfing is not that cool,and Fouta said that he'll ban perm. who selfs next,then he just banned this guy and a lot of more.

Warm Regards,eLemennT

[Ed]

Your case is being reviewed by sami<3
Ambrosia Unban Panel

[TeeKaaY]

Most of the players I banned yesterday were players from ND and they were freekilling everyone and making a mess out of the server. So the reasons where out of context because I was busy banning people.
Now I gave you guys 5 or 6 warnings about not going CT without permission, and after I transferred you all you still went CT. Therefore I banned you guys, and yes I wanted you to get on the forums because what you did was unacceptable and you should be warned accordingly.

Making fun of an admin is also not acceptable, and that's what the last two guys did and that's why they deserved a ban.

[Makiavel]

With all due respect, I think the warning should be done ingame and not after you permanently ban seven people for so-called selfing.

You also said that you warned them multiple times about not selfing and not going CT yet it appears none of the actually banned people heard it which would probably be caused by according from what I heard, you telling it in mic and not through the chat which could've been more understandable.

Additionally to that, I know those people pretty well, as you said, they do for a good part of the people you banned come from nD which has a quite different ruleset from here and would explain why this amount of freekilling happened. I don't believe it was actually in purpose but rather it was due to the difference in the rules of both communities while it comes to Jailbreak. That is however their fault for not informing themselves about it but it does not actually warrant a permanent ban and especially not one that is as unclear as that when it comes to the reason you put for the ban. I'm quite sure many people would be surprised upon finding such a reason when they get banned.

That's however all I can say after talking to a majority of them, upon telling them what they were banned for, most of them did not know why what it meant and I felt as though giving my output would be a good idea.

[Makiavel]

With all due respect, I think the warning should be done ingame and not after you permanently ban seven people for so-called selfing.

You also said that you warned them multiple times about not selfing and not going CT yet it appears none of the actually banned people heard it which would probably be caused by according from what I heard, you telling it in mic and not through the chat which could've been more understandable.

Additionally to that, I know those people pretty well, as you said, they do for a good part of the people you banned come from nD which has a quite different ruleset from here and would explain why this amount of freekilling happened. I don't believe it was actually in purpose but rather it was due to the difference in the rules of both communities while it comes to Jailbreak. That is however their fault for not informing themselves about it but it does not actually warrant a permanent ban and especially not one that is as unclear as that when it comes to the reason you put for the ban. I'm quite sure many people would be surprised upon finding such a reason when they get banned.

That's however all I can say after talking to a majority of them, upon telling them what they were banned for, most of them did not know why what it meant and I felt as though giving my output would be a good idea.

Yeah cause in nD they can freekill and self okay thank you got ur rules.

And btw, if tony warned them thru "mic" they would have heard him from Ambrosia to nD cause he shouts too much and would stop all the communications to warn someone with a "YO" voice, I know him very well.

A timed ban would be good for both of them.

Where did I say that? Are you reading between the lines or not comprehending my post and trying to look like a smartie with your sarcasm? I think the point I was making was pretty clear but I'll make it simple for you:

Our Jailbreak rules are different from yours and thus it was maybe why all the freekilling happened and not because they did it on purpose.

+ Yes, selfing is allowed in nD as we have a ratio taking care of all of it and switch/ct bans option... That's what I mean by the rules confusing them and them not knowing what it meant.

Also, if his shouting was heard by everybody, how come the majority of the people banned didn't hear it? see http://www.ambrosia-servers.eu/community/index.php?topic=24463.0 for another example.

I honestly think the Admin didn't know how to handle the mess that was happening and just sent flying bans a bit everywhere which I believe aren't needed here.

[Ed]

As to our JB being different than your nD JB, yes that is correct. I am familiar with how nD JB is.

And as for the ban. Yes it was necessary. So to speak, those who got permbanned, if they wish to be unbanned, they would have to come to this forum, make an unban request. It's clear that we won't keep these guys banned just for this reason, but call it a necessity for the ban. Due to the fact we focus on wide range of players, nonsteamers and under age, that's why we have to have the measurements we have.

A lot of people tend to join server without bothering to read the rules and do whatever they think is right. http://www.ambrosia-servers.eu/community/index.php?topic=22296.0  These are the rules. You can access them in game by typing /rules.

The rule was broken and an admin acted on it.
Now, Maki, I'd wish to hear from the banned players that they understand what was wrong. Their attitude is the key to be unbanned quickly.

[Koray]

With all due respect, I think the warning should be done ingame and not after you permanently ban seven people for so-called selfing.

You also said that you warned them multiple times about not selfing and not going CT yet it appears none of the actually banned people heard it which would probably be caused by according from what I heard, you telling it in mic and not through the chat which could've been more understandable.

Additionally to that, I know those people pretty well, as you said, they do for a good part of the people you banned come from nD which has a quite different ruleset from here and would explain why this amount of freekilling happened. I don't believe it was actually in purpose but rather it was due to the difference in the rules of both communities while it comes to Jailbreak. That is however their fault for not informing themselves about it but it does not actually warrant a permanent ban and especially not one that is as unclear as that when it comes to the reason you put for the ban. I'm quite sure many people would be surprised upon finding such a reason when they get banned.

That's however all I can say after talking to a majority of them, upon telling them what they were banned for, most of them did not know why what it meant and I felt as though giving my output would be a good idea.

Yeah cause in nD they can freekill and self okay thank you got ur rules.

And btw, if tony warned them thru "mic" they would have heard him from Ambrosia to nD cause he shouts too much and would stop all the communications to warn someone with a "YO" voice, I know him very well.

A timed ban would be good for both of them.

Where did I say that? Are you reading between the lines or not comprehending my post and trying to look like a smartie with your sarcasm? I think the point I was making was pretty clear but I'll make it simple for you:

Our Jailbreak rules are different from yours and thus it was maybe why all the freekilling happened and not because they did it on purpose.

+ Yes, selfing is allowed in nD as we have a ratio taking care of all of it and switch/ct bans option... That's what I mean by the rules confusing them and them not knowing what it meant.

Also, if his shouting was heard by everybody, how come the majority of the people banned didn't hear it? see http://www.ambrosia-servers.eu/community/index.php?topic=24463.0 for another example.

I honestly think the Admin didn't know how to handle the mess that was happening and just sent flying bans a bit everywhere which I believe aren't needed here.

I read the rules of nD and you have to make a sort of app to be commander and to self, and even if so why did they self here? Did they read our rules that they self? No right? Keep them banned for couple days.

[TeeKaaY]

Before I warned them about selfing, I did have order in the server. Everybody has shut up and clearly heard me saying DO NOT SELF. Please don't talk about something you were not there.

[TeeKaaY]

So the reasons where out of context because I was busy banning people.

If you want to have a serious conversation about what happened, consider joining the ts3 server so we can have a civilized chat about it all.

[DonTodo #]

Fragment.
Your comment has been removed. Disrespectfull. Dont do it again. Clearly if u read the whole topic people were disobeying Tony the whole time.

[Makiavel]

I just gave my opinion, go back to nD if u think I said anything wrong.

Good luck with the requests tho, and read the rules before u join again next time.

Very welcoming coming from an Ambrosia Admin, just what I'd expect.. Atleast the second part of your post was fine.

I read the rules of nD and you have to make a sort of app to be commander and to self, and even if so why did they self here? Did they read our rules that they self? No right? Keep them banned for couple days.

Not actually true, they need 10 hours of playing on the server. That is it. They can apply to get more powers such as glowing or activating microphone for the terrorist team / activating teamkilling for game related purposes.

Before I warned them about selfing, I did have order in the server. Everybody has shut up and clearly heard me saying DO NOT SELF. Please don't talk about something you were not there.

I was indeed not there, but the story coming from every banned player is just about the same, most of them didn't hear it or didn't comprehend what selfing meant. I think saying it in a way such as "Don't go CT again" would be understandable for every kind of player, whether they knew what selfing meant or not.

As to our JB being different than your nD JB, yes that is correct. I am familiar with how nD JB is.

And as for the ban. Yes it was necessary. So to speak, those who got permbanned, if they wish to be unbanned, they would have to come to this forum, make an unban request. It's clear that we won't keep these guys banned just for this reason, but call it a necessity for the ban. Due to the fact we focus on wide range of players, nonsteamers and under age, that's why we have to have the measurements we have.

A lot of people tend to join server without bothering to read the rules and do whatever they think is right. http://www.ambrosia-servers.eu/community/index.php?topic=22296.0  These are the rules. You can access them in game by typing /rules.

The rule was broken and an admin acted on it.
Now, Maki, I'd wish to hear from the banned players that they understand what was wrong. Their attitude is the key to be unbanned quickly.

Fair enough I guess, I just believe it's a tad harsh and some people just wouldn't be bothering into doing a request after that happens.

Thanks for listening anyway, I'll leave it to the banned people now.

['PL']

Would be quite appreciated if you round up the banned players to arrange a diplomatic conversation about the sticky situation.Can turn quite generous for those people and the ambrosia representation team in bypassing this unwanted incident.

[Ed]

You have 24 hours to answer to your unban request as of do you understand why admin banned you and the story from your eyes.

[~xeon]

sry for not replying,

first of all, I went on ambrosia with a few buddies and decided to have some fun. We switched CT, yes that's selfing but we had no clue that was against the rules. It was our mistake in not reading the rules before selfing, apparently we were 'freekilling', however we just wanted to have some fun and command. After this some regular must have called Panda which he got totally mad at us and started perm banning us. Luckily, I never got banned and another friend of mine. We asked to be CT and we got switched, I started commanded casually and then Panda started using his mic as T so I was like why not ask him? I asked him why he banned my friends, he said because I can and stuff like this. He didn't provide a valid excuse to why. He started shouting and getting feisty, I told him to chill and then he permed me. This is my story, I hope to be unbanned so I can enjoy my time on the Ambrosia Servers again.

[Ed]

You both were banned due to making fun of an admin for banning the rest of your mates from nD. That is also the reason why he put your ban reasons as "cuz I can". It makes sense, because if you provoked him and laughed at him, saying to him chill etc when in fact he responded to player complaints, came to server, saw all these selftransferers and acted accordingly, specially when they don't hear not to selftransfer.

You both didn't got banned since you didn't selftransfer. You asked to be CT, you were given that chance.
I cannot track what was said, but who do you think we will trust more? Our admin who we know very well or some random people from another community making mess in our server? It's logic.

Now for your bans. I will unban you both. Note that if similar things happen again or rule breaking, your ban will be a lot longer than it was now and as said by an admin - because we can.

Unbanned