[JB] Some things in JB.

[Ed]

I am very glad to see the forum back on business.
Before you start reading, play the video bellow I am playing guitar

Well I wanted to raise some issues dealing with server lag and many crashes on map change and I noticed some things which were not entirely right.

First. The soccer ball with the net plugin added which is a much better than last one, the downside is that the ball and nets are not set up in all maps, where I already suggested to Deniz to change map by map and add it, lock the JB for that moment and you will be fine doing it just for maybe 20 min max. Also in one of the maps, I think in jb_xmf the ball is not in middle, but somewhere in the middle of air on the left side field of soccer.

Second. The weird thing which we noticed on jb_greytown added, some sort of an ugly face in the gun room and then in the execution room under the electric chair some sort of a box which gives some certain powers. Well I know it's all cool and fun even me and JF were like bit getting crazy with all the sounds  made by this plugin and then when we found out the box thing and what it does, well it is cool just for a moment, but there is no use for it, whatsoever we already have RTD. Why is such thing even added? Could anyone tell me the use of it?

Third. The Nuke. I remember myself suggesting it a very long time ago and I must admit there are no much need for it, there's a big possibility that it gives the crashes of maps and even lag.

Lastly I would like to suggest that before you add such plugins we could of have a topic about it and a vote? Cuz then we all would be updated and we could then come back to this topic and notify if there are any bugs or any other critic about it in a good or bad way. But I remember discussing this long time ago, I dunno it was just a suggestion reviving the dead conversation, I remember Arne saying that he can't inform for all the small plugins he adds etc as it was his excuse. To be fairly honest there are no daily new plugins on JB
And yes I lied I am not playing guitar like this dude. Amazing isn't he?

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[Ejay]

I Totally agree !
you've added much useless plugins ! and after adding them the result was "More Lag"
and this map "jb_greytown" keeps crashing ! so we have to play like 2 hours in this map !
and i agree about  making a vote before adding the plugins !
Thanks Sami !
Regards E.J

['PL']

I remember in one map, deniz added so many stuff from plugns and crushed it D:
Was a platfrom of somekind

[SNap]

+1 Sami

About the blockmaker (the ugly face etc..) Sight's idea was to put secret boxes around all maps and i like the idea but this blockmaker causes so much lag that we cant even change the map without crashing the server.

[sMiT]

i dont see why blockmaker was added to jb, the only use of blockmaker is to remove bugs from maps...

[tαshαღ]

its impossible to play sometimes with the lag, feels like im on 1fps

[Stevko]

I am already adding nets and ball in all map. But since i dont have permission to lock server i need to add it randomly.

Ye, i got idea to hide in all maps 1 "random" block so players can try luck when they find it. I think its not useless and its also funny. About "Arnes" face in gunroom, it was just Sights joke . And i dont think so blockmaker is only for fixing bugs in maps, we can make new races, bhop races, long jumps, competions, kz, a lot of new games and fun. For example in map "jail_greytown, there is just pool, trampoline and 1 field where arent even goals and ball (yet). There is nothing to do, with blockmaker we can make this map better.

[Ed]

Actually there is ball and net and no I disagree if we keep lagging like this and server is crashing then its better to beremoved

[Sight]

first: i noticed the ball plugin is bugged, each mapchange the nets disappear or the ball isnt working.

second: i remember there was a discussion somewhere to get the shop back again after complains of rtd so me and stevko added blockmaker and stevko came with the idea to add 1 random small block somewhere in the map hidden, it will give random powers like auto bunnyhop and speed or something, and yes i made a ugly face poster in the gunroom of graytown because it looks like arne xD (soz bro love ya)
i primary added it because some maps dont have any healing like jail_west, and we can use block maker for some games and even make own trampolines for some games (be creative)

3th: i disabled it getting it from the random block, the nuke isnt needed and wont be added in jailbreak maps, there is no possible way to nuke the opposite team anymore since its disabled now.

fourth: the lagg is not caused by any plugins i added, its because the new server isnt activated yet that i put on ftp 3 months ago (already ready to start and play).

fifth: normal admins dont got access to blockmaker yet, first we are watching what we can actually can do and need some ideas to make some games, some maps are pretty big but dont have any games like west again, only trusted admins will be given access and will be strictly watched for abusing it!, admins with such power will not be payadmins and cannot make changes without asking us.

sixth: this is just testing, if there is no point in bm i will disable it again, however i still want to watch the possibility's of it in a jailbreak server because you can put blocks like autobhop and lowgravity, or even a race with damageblocks and see who will be the last one to survive! we just need creativity!.

seventh: cya!

[Ejay]

first: i noticed the ball plugin is bugged, each mapchange the nets disappear or the ball isnt working.

second: i remember there was a discussion somewhere to get the shop back again after complains of rtd so me and stevko added blockmaker and stevko came with the idea to add 1 random small block somewhere in the map hidden, it will give random powers like auto bunnyhop and speed or something, and yes i made a ugly face poster in the gunroom of graytown because it looks like arne xD (soz bro love ya)
i primary added it because some maps dont have any healing like jail_west, and we can use block maker for some games and even make own trampolines for some games (be creative)

3th: i disabled it getting it from the random block, the nuke isnt needed and wont be added in jailbreak maps, there is no possible way to nuke the opposite team anymore since its disabled now.

fourth: the lagg is not caused by any plugins i added, its because the new server isnt activated yet that i put on ftp 3 months ago (already ready to start and play).

fifth: normal admins dont got access to blockmaker yet, first we are watching what we can actually can do and need some ideas to make some games, some maps are pretty big but dont have any games like west again, only trusted admins will be given access and will be strictly watched for abusing it!, admins with such power will not be payadmins and cannot make changes without asking us.

sixth: this is just testing, if there is no point in bm i will disable it again, however i still want to watch the possibility's of it in a jailbreak server because you can put blocks like autobhop and lowgravity, or even a race with damageblocks and see who will be the last one to survive! we just need creativity!.

seventh: cya!

hmm so what make us lag ? if it not the plugins then what ?
and what about the maps crash ?

[Sight]

the lagg was made first place by the glowmenu, however it stayed after removing it, i tested the glowmenu in a clean server and it was lagging like hell !
maps never crashed when i tested bm, tell me a exact time and date when it crashed and on what map so i can check the amxx debug log.

thanks.

[Ejay]

it usually crash at jb_greytown  and what usually happens is that this map is stuck ! when the time limit is over and we vote for a new map and it ends and the new map starts loading but it fail ! so when u recocnnect u find the same map
P.S : this happens with some maps ! some maps accept and it changes but most of them no ..
Regards E.J

[Ed]

Thanks Deniz for your response. The ball seem to work fine, although maybe should do the net and ball on all maps at once and then see if it's bugging just to be sure.

Well Jailbreak is not in the state it was few days ago so I believe it was the blockmaker plugin which made the server crash on mapchange. Probably some maps didn't take it well having instalments

What do you say about some public information of what is happening on JB plugin wise? I mean it could give the JB some more critic and response of how the new installed plugins work.

[Sight]

yeah me and stevko edited the blockmaker plugin a bit to restrict things for regular admins first, but it failed i guess that crashed alot on mapchange.

the ball i dont have alot time for it really to fix it in all maps :s.

[Ed]

I could do it for you, but I am in no position to ask for rights as I am only a member, so what about Stevko?

[Stevko]

I am already adding nets and ball in all map. But since i dont have permission to lock server i need to add it randomly.

Ye, i got idea to hide in all maps 1 "random" block so players can try luck when they find it. I think its not useless and its also funny. About "Arnes" face in gunroom, it was just Sights joke . And i dont think so blockmaker is only for fixing bugs in maps, we can make new races, bhop races, long jumps, competions, kz, a lot of new games and fun. For example in map "jail_greytown, there is just pool, trampoline and 1 field where arent even goals and ball (yet). There is nothing to do, with blockmaker we can make this map better.

Thats my answer.

[Sight]

alright then, sami got full admin access for helping me and stevko fixing the ball plugin as i know your work from the past you can kick/ban players also if they missbehave

[Ed]

Will do my best.

[Ed]

Ok, this morning after I came home from night shift I installed ball and net on all maps. I already later with Snap and Roni playing soccer match noticed that the ball wasn't in the place it should spawn. Nevertheless if anyone sees that there is no net or ball please notify any admin therefore admins can notify Stevko or Deniz.

Also, please don't use /ball plugin unless it is out of order. On some there were no soccer field, but there were basketball net so try your luck scoring and playing basketball

Thanks Deniz for giving the access.