[UNBANNED][14th Feb 2014][CS] Unban Request - lolipots (Dust2)

[thEnd]

The end it is funny how you like to read selectively, it is not a random flame it's a serial misbehaving for months and months, Todo probably posted a tiny chunk out  of his abusive history. That said I don't mind him coming back, but it is important that you and everyone else understands that our supply of chances is bound to run out one day. If he is let back in game he will have to have an exceptional  behaviour, if I was him I would not even trust myself to write since as it seems he can not control his anger and lashes out at anyone that kills him.

Hello Wasp its funny that you cant read my posts correctly. That might be the fact you were not around the time when pixel was playing and got banned here on daily basis. You too with sami might ask ezza who is zombiee as he have a special friendship with him
However my point is - there was player who was misbehaving much much worse and sami there was no "case" there was like 200 unbans..
Also im suprised by your unprofessional reply. Please be more polite with me as I am the only one here who can say that this is funny what you just wrote. Good day to you.

@nip GJ. Was suggesting something similar, but not that exact, like 2 years ago.. "a ban margins" No one showed any interest as admins were profesional. Now seeing some 6mnth ban idea for flame and 5min ban for "scripting" in dm is just soooooo wrong. Quality of admins who know how long bans would be fine to do is gone. We all do curse and swear. I got warn by CC for some random shit sarcasm, latvian got lengthy ban for misbehave,.. can I guess next ban or warn reason/length???

Since Im off the staff list me and nip can feel more free to speak about the things that we dont like and this is one of them - godlike admins who tend to show over here in unban panel. I have a gut feeling that playing a harsh daddy always helps somehow to look good in the staff eyes. (thats what they think) We all know raven and his imperial style. However harsh daddys always end up in a trash bin here in ambro. Please switch on your brain and remember where are all these highly sensitive untouchable guys now?!


BE MORE HUMAN
..and unban this flamenator..


p.s. that logs actually is nothing in my eyes, ambro gets like 100k unique visitors each month, imagine how many virgin 12yo ragekids are playing this game on their pentium 1. These convo is just a tip of iceberg and nothing interesting to be a 6 month ban lol. Please visit more dd2 guys. The ban is the LEAST option. Instead of banning everyone you dont like start doing something to gain a player respect as some admins like me, nipster, r4h, mnr can get server calm without a banning anyone. (maybe some random 30min bans or similar..)

[X-KilleR]

guys , as i said we are humans, and latvi i never liked his bad attitude , but he is an old player and loyal ambrosian, my opinion he deserve a week ban + mute him for a month for his serial misbehaving

peace

[Alves]

That's exactly how Pixel used to behave as well, Sami. I don't know if his unban topics were deleted or moved to the trash, but he had many including a few in the admin report board.
Either way, my poiny is about beying coherent. The "each case is case" excuse can't be used to justify such great difference in the punishment issued, when latvian's and pixel's cases are similar.
This happens because it was never set any limit when it comes to bans in general.
It's all down to the person who solves these cases; if he decides to give someone a heavier punishment, he does and no one asks why. It's all made by heart and in the moment. You have a lot of rules regarding the servers and 0 regarding ban's lenght. Why do you have 4/5 unban panel members if all it takes to solve each request is for 1 of them to come up with a punishment and the others will agree?
Take this as a critique. Understanding it is how we improve and move on.

Spelling error's aside - wrote this on my phone - this is what I honestly believe.

[Ezzα]

Just to clear things up surrounding Pixel.

He was actually perm banned on Ambrosia for a few months for constantly flaming and this banned was issued by myself. The only reason he was unbanned after this was due to our change of host.

I only allowed him to remain on the server after this as i felt his flaming had calmed down alot along with me playing CS less to notice his attitude.

However, i would repeat that if Latvian persists to conduct this behaviour on the server then it will ultimately result in a perm ban.

[Cersei]

I don't understand why so much discussion about this. Latvian is banned only for 1 month and some comments have been thrown about raising his ban, this happens on most threads, people express their opinions does not mean Latvian is going to be banned longer on this particular occasion. That said if he carries on his behaviour he is looking at long term ban. No one is unfair here and in some cases permanent ban for rude behaviour can be lowered after months and months of waiting. All depends on staff, different staff different approach, does not mean someone is treated unfairly similar happens in court cases. Nip I don't believe there is a need for such a detailed rules regarding flaming, we have rules no flaming and we enforce not to punish severely minor offenders, but after several warnings admins can decide level of punishment according to their judgement, but long term bans will always be brought up with High Staff; now shall we wait for them to decide Latvian's fate? I already said many times that I am happy to let him back in as long as he truly realises the gravity of his behaviour. I really don;t see the point of bringing up some single far away cases, most of you hardly play on DD2 and have not really watched Latvian every night.

[Alves]

I did play with both, that's how I know how their behave.

@ Cersei  Of course there's no need, you can come up with any sort of punishment - as most ridiculous as it might be - and no one will question it as there's no limit after all, is it? Why do you even guide by the rules if you don't know what to do when someone breaks it?
Honestly I blame myself for suggesting something I thought would be adequate, when I knew in first hand it'd be ignored and/or rejected. Here there has always been a reluctance or an aversion to improve. Let's be honest, suggestions in this community are just that; the answer is always the same. "We'll think about it" that sounds like "I couldn't care less" and ends in "Your suggesting has been rejected". The suggestions board is pointless. Useless. I could go on and talk about the amount of low level admins you currently have on your servers, but for what?
I rest my case, do what you want or what makes you happier.

[SharkX69]

Too much discussion for an unban request for flaming ended up to community issues again.
Everyone has his opinion and you nip you have yours thats fine.
All i will say is that none of us was good admin from the beggining. It needs practise and by time we get better all as admins so the new ones some might not be good as some others but they are trying to be better.

Now about you latvian after thinking and discussion you will be unbanned in one week from today that means on 14/2.
What i want you to understand is that your behaviour leads you here and we agreed on this last chance as you said you are willing to change and we would like to see that change of you.
If you do the same things and you end up banned again be sure that you will wait very long time for an unban.
Hope you wont waste it this time.
Its in your hands from now on.

[Raven E II R]

Ban changed to set to expire automatically on the said date.

[Raven E II R]

Expired.