Warning removal request time | Feedback ==> and behaviour part

[RAMBATEN]

Can you modifie or change that request time for warning removal (Should be couple days or max 1 week or 2). 1 month waiting time is too long and how much you can rise  instant warning lvl.. And outside situation panel would be nice, don't know all Emperors has time for this.

Now this makes possible to the staff ignore member's requests, what I mean that the Staff member who gave warning can get out situation without any punishment for his actions..In example TheEnd's case it seems like one dictator decides how he wanna handle the situation and he can't take himself none kind of critism.

I get +30 warned for offensive spam..Lel..And that my post was only facts what I have seen past weeks..I have not act towards none offensive and now I get warned for ANOTHER Spam offensive.


This is feedback for some Staff members of Ambrosia

If your personality and behaviour is to be rude..Fine by me..But that won't give you right to be cocky even though..The only thing what happens is some kids get really mad in servers and maybe forums also..

MNR..he is pushin players to lose their temper and some might even leave server because him..For me he can talk how he want, I dont actually care like some lower aged kids 12-18 might get offended and leave server. And I saw this happening yesterday in public server multiple times. We played nuke and his cocky attitude left us 2-3 TT

Card card card...For the first days of here and still present days..Your behaviour towards regular members and even some admins are not acceptable. But you can do like you want, you said already in TheEnd's warnin removal topic that you are like this and if you cant stand you can leave. Here comes the tricky part, when someone acts towards you like you do => Instant warning lvl increased and this way you silence most of people who don't like your behaviour. First increase and if he still say something after you provoke him further => Increase more warning LVL    

+1 Dontodo for good behaviour after bad behaviour 

Only small thing for Don don ..I noticed your little behaviour towards Fisu..But at least you are straight MAN and you apologize your behaviour towards Fisu..Some of you might learn also if you have made mistake you can apologize. Some seems to be stubborn and never give up their opinion 

PS. Would it be possible that member's see who warned them?

[P o p a y]

This topic is only "drama attention", it's not feedback at all..

If you have something against any staff, provide proof and post it in the right section, otherwise nothing will happen. And just for your info, you are looking only one side of all those stories which I won't comment, since I don't find it useful to tell you or any other member.

Calling CardClasher a dictator will increase only your percentage. Nothing more. Plus I would suggest sticking to topics where you are involved in, no need to be "everywhere and trying to be judge". If we (staff) start posting feedback about you or other members you would be surprised of how many reactions will pop up, but we are here trying to make peace and avoid drama.

The Cases you are talking that members have been mistreated wrongly, you are only reading what one (member is saying) and the staff's reply. You have no idea of the reasons that provoked the beginnings of all those situations, so you are using this occasion to manipulate with the members who have no idea about this cases at all..

Nothing can be changed or modified for warning removal, because 1 month time period is acceptable time for a person to understand his mistake.

Staff can get out from every situation? Are you serious? There are a lot of demoted staff who didn't have right, and made this community look bad, but unfortunately you are not aware of, and we as staff try to hide it from the public, so the EX staff doesn't lose their reputation and name over here. You really, don't get it do you?

After all, if I see this topic enforcing quarrels or you being rude (calling dictatorship and e.t.c.), I would delete your topic (it's not feedback, it's drama attention whining), and warn you, along with everyone who insults. Have this in mind, so later you don't post feedback about me, for warning you. This is my last Oral warning for you, not to insult anyone.

Regards,
POPAY

[thEnd]

Who da hell are you popay?! Nothing will change you say? Your last warnings?

1st of all forums are the place for debate so your silly threats are funny.
2nd in a polite way we can express our thoughts as example I think that you popay still haven't become a man as your posts are so silly by threatening me and Rambo. Kid.. Also CC it's not secret that many old members asks - who da hell he thinks he is?! These type people lick hard to gain attention and then they act like el presidente of Cuba.
These was my thoughts...
3rd this topic is posted in a suggestion board so you mr dictator popay rather listen to others..

Pff

[Burzum]

1st part of topic is not so bad..... personally, when i give a warn (few times) i post in the topic that im warning for that post or reason, and also, there is an option for send a message to the warned member

i guess every staff give warns according his criteria. there are not specific rules about this. its hard to decide how much level give for every case (and also there are multiple and different cases). its hard to set, for example: "not following support rule = 20% lvl"; "posting useless, spam = 30% lvl"; "advertising = 50% lvl".... every1 has his own thinks about this i guess


the 2nd part, feedback for some staff, its ur personal opinion, and could be deleted or just ignored, coz i think this is not the place to discuss about it


and PLEASE thEnd and Popay, dont start argueing here, or i will warn u both     

[thEnd]

What then feedback is for?

[Burzum]

What then feedback is for?

well, ofc u can talk with a good behaviour, but if everybody is gonna give their personal opinion for every member or staff.... this could be an endless topic, and ofcourse there will be some bad replies 

[P o p a y]

Yeah, I am a kid, and I will always try to be one, it sucks to be old..

Debate - Let me explain that word for you, since you definitely don't have a clue what it is. Debating is having 2 sides of a story, 1 holds the positive side and 1 holds the negative side. The point of the debate is to have a FRIENDLY chat and discuss. You are just a keyboard warrior as I see, nothing else..

Insult me again by saying kid, dictator or similar, I will lock this topic and warn you, so afterwards you can complain to the high staff.

I won't bother replying here anymore, unless I see some offenders.

Have fun now all of you who consider that are grown up people (adults),
Regards,
Popay

['PL']

Jeeez, just find a psychiatrist with a certified diploma to be a forum moderator and deal with interpersonal misconduct between staff and members. There is nothing else to do really.

[thEnd]

1st of all debate - let me explain to you..
Debating is discuss matters and to make resolutions. There is no story. There is no 2 sides of STORY. There is not always is a positive and negative sides but aspects, points of view,etc that not always are controversial.


Keyboard warrior might be only you as I dont threaten you like you did in the past and still do it here.


@burz .. feedback must be also negative and for a good cause. If you will close your eyes and will think - lets praise the staff for their hard work and delete all the bad feedback ambrosia soon will have another cancer. Negative feedback always must be considered as a good feedback for the community. Many staff members are blinded by these type of creatures who do nothing but hide their .... under sweeta$$licking topics,posts, actions, "friendly pokes" etc..


Overall I am seeing this is going really bad... Stubborn people who don't accept any kind of criticism or sarcasm and you saying that we cant use a word - dictators..

[P o p a y]

We are threatening ? Ok, yea sure..

Btw, Who said yesterday to me:

What if I become forum moderator ? 

But I guess you don't interpret that as a threat.

Btw, Who said yesterday to CC:

I will pay Casper to remove you ?

But I guess that's not a threat as well..

Made my day however, had a good laugh.

You can all have debate or what ever you call it, since you don't know the meaning of it, unless you offend/insult someone. If I see you insulting you will be warned and topic locked/moved.

Choose your words properly and at least try to be adults as much as you can.

Regards,
Popay

[MNR[fp]]

RAMBATEN, you're hilarious. I made people leave from nuke? Before nuke it was inferno. The server had like 10 players on. I joined and it seems like you couldn't handle the beating you were getting otherwise you wouldn't mention me here. Whilst this ownage was taking place, loads of other players joined, then the map changed to nuke and the player numbers diminished. Let's not forget it was nighttime.

No need to get me involved in your "feedback". If you can't keep your spam to a limit, that's your problem, not mine.

[Ultor]

Jeeez, just find a psychiatrist with a certified diploma to be a forum moderator and deal with interpersonal misconduct between staff and members. There is nothing else to do really.

Don't need diploma, people come with/can develop a natural talent.

The 1 month waiting time seems to be appropriate in some situation; while at others, aint. For instance, if someone constantly spams boards with totally useless, pointless and worthless posts, then that person must be warned with a 5% warning level (Since its his first time) and his posts must therefore be removed. To me, 1 week is more than enough to create an impact on that person- changing his future behaviour. However, if that person repeats his mistakes, the pervious warning level must be doubled by x (x is the impact of the mistakes he created on topics) with a time period of 2 weeks if the person requested to remove his warning level.

It is true that someone can easily be warned, with a split of a second, but then having the 1 month removal time is like encountering a slow, harrowing and painful death. It may be suitable in extreme situations where the person threatens certain staff, or irrational, childish and moronic behaviour. This will provide the person with enough time to redeem from his sins- preventing any further altercation.

[DonTodo #]

1 month removal for warnings is acceptable.
And ofcourse there are cases that there are different situations. Like if u feel like it is unfair that the warnings has been given. Then u can request it earlier.

About the feedback about some of us in high staff:
CC is always been strict. Some accept this some doesn't but that makes us people all unique hmm? CC didnt change a bit since he became UC. And thats not a joke.

Also a good example. Since i am UC everyone is watching me with other eyes. But did i really change anything? I've been always sometimes harsh but fair. Strict but ok to deal with. I didn't change a single bit since i got promoted. I promoted to UC in a short periode of time. This just because of dedication i have for Ambrosia. Always been open to help everyone etc etc.
Also what happened towards Fisu. Yea shit happens hmm? I have lots of personal stuff going on atm and it doesnt mean i should react like a ass sometimes but it happens. Everyone got their little mistakes.


And towards Popay and thEnd. As i respect u both. Try to keep it between the lines and try to keep it friendly.
 I accept this topic only when it stays friendly and when we start a flaming war then i personally lock it no questions asked afterwards.
Don't get to personal against people. Try to feedback a person and give TIPS what we could do that we could maybe change it? Otherwise this topic is gonna mean nothing at all.

[tajski]

Seems like any "feedback" topic or any "harsh" comment about a member or staff team looks like a quarrel to Popay. You're beginning to irritate me with your threatning comments on some topics. Yes, that's your job but you're going to far with it sometimes. People seem to be limitless as to what they can say and it bugs me as well as thEnd. We should be allowed to state the positives as well as the negatives of things or simply one of them.

At the moment you're the attention seeker with those posts that you make against some of the members here. So don't go around and start warning people for something that they haven't done. And please, don't post something like, "Chill dude, I was only joking. No need to be so serious"

This behaviour isn't new and simply by going to your posts you can see how many times you've stepped over the line. I ain't bullying you or anything but I'm asking you to cease your "dictator-like" behaviour bossing around warning people for their polite and friendly-to-human-eye posts.

[terraboN]

This topic is only "drama attention", it's not feedback at all..

Yes because everything we say is bloody drama. Just the staffs way of easily saying "shut the fuck up" to all our ideas, analysis and suggestions for this community. You guys are ready to attack us and prove us wrong, when you should take it all in a neutral position and think, why has the person posted such content, use the suggestions or feedback to improve and there won't be any more issues. High staff always get fed up of people like me who try to bring change and raise awareness of the minority of staff who treat us inappropriately or with a bad attitude or so on... I just gave up because after every topic i was involved with, it ended like this :

"Too much drama, nonsense, trashed".

This takes so much piss because we are not trying to lower the communities rep, we are trying to fricking help and all we get is a big smack to the face with your moderation rights etc.. You should read this kind of stuff 2 or 3 times, not read it from the perspective of being ready to prove us wrong, yes we may be wrong sometimes as not all of our english is superb so the way we type our ideas may not portray our exact intention, but you as high staff should take time to not always see it as criticism, we play in your servers and help your player count and for me, i am an admin so i don't "hate" this community to chat bullshit about it all day. End of the day, we try to show you the issues so you can solve them as it is common sense that nothing is perfect in this world but with teamwork we can tackle such social problems between the members and staff. We are not enemies, or else we wouldn't be here in the first place.

As always, there will be atleast ONE person to misunderstand my post, so go ahead and throw your spears in our faces and trash this topic with all the useful information that it has for you to improve with ...

[RAMBATEN]

http://lifehacker.com/dont-be-afraid-to-give-negative-feedback-people-actua-1503468412

Read it..and carry on..Purpose is to develop things further..Everyday life in work also people gives critics and give feedback if you are not doing things like they should..

But there is limit when you are punishing people..I have recently do nothing offensive in here (2-3 months) and mainly because I play much less cs 1.6..Kind of funny get instant +30 warning if I give critics towards people who acts badly against regular members..If you can only say excuse arrogance behaviour that it is your SHOW-off and your personality..Should he change the way he deals with people. People can be strict in cases, but if you have no flexiblility about issues that leads nothing..

Just see TheEnd's request for moderation level..

[DonTodo #]

http://lifehacker.com/dont-be-afraid-to-give-negative-feedback-people-actua-1503468412

Read it..and carry on..Purpose is to develop things further..

There are different ways in giving negative feedback tho.
Examples:

NEGATIVE like hell: Everything u do sucks.
Negative but helping: What u do is not good but if u change this and this u will improve yourself.

So what i'm trying to say with this is easy.
If u give negative feedback give it in a way so people can do something with it. Not just stating his problems but also what he can do with it.

[Card Clasher]

Who da hell are you popay?! Nothing will change you say? Your last warnings?

1st of all forums are the place for debate so your silly threats are funny.
2nd in a polite way we can express our thoughts as example I think that you popay still haven't become a man as your posts are so silly by threatening me and Rambo. Kid.. Also CC it's not secret that many old members asks - who da hell he thinks he is?! These type people lick hard to gain attention and then they act like el presidente of Cuba.
These was my thoughts...
3rd this topic is posted in a suggestion board so you mr dictator popay rather listen to others..

Pff

Once again I repeat. I don't give a rats ass what you and your friends think.

I'm not going on with this topic as it is meaningless. You guys and yes I mean both thEnd and Rambaten are plain absurd. I had enough of dealing with your drama.

[Ed]

Jeeez, just find a psychiatrist with a certified diploma to be a forum moderator and deal with interpersonal misconduct between staff and members. There is nothing else to do really.

This is the shortest reply in history, Replica! Well done

Onthetopic!

Some things need to change tho. Don't get me wrong, I am not against anyone. I live to serve and to maintain fairness. Equality as much as possible.
Rambaten, thEnd I can understand your frustrations, but then again we all know that both of your behaviors, specially Rambaten after being an UC it just went down the drain. Rambaten, surprisingly your behavior has improved since last 2 years.

I also have to agree that attitude given from highstaff shouldn't be happening. Maybe there is something we can do about it.

Also there is no one without guilt! Just keep that in mind!

[Raven E II R]

Your points of view have been noted by an Emperor.

- The warning system will be more clearer and accurate
- The warning removal will be redone with regulations in place to help avoid issues like this
- The forum administration (everyone with forum priviledges) has been reminded about the use of the warning system as a last resort.
- The reminder of free speech, should it be criticising with valid points of view is to be upheld on this forum as long as it complies with the Forum Rules.