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Offline NoahJ

[DENIED] Ipawn
« on: January 24, 2014, 08:15:53 pm »
Hello Ambrosians,

Let me start by saying that my account registration is approved by Shark and apparently Casper. So do not quickly take action before taking the time to listen to me.

My alias is iPawn and I had been a member of Ambrosia around 2009, became more active later on. I was banned once for ddosing the community, once for cheating and then kept ddosing ambrosia's servers and forum. That's something that looked quite funny back in the days but looks quite disturbing now to me and I'm pretty sure it does to you as well. This may wake up bad memories but I still hope it reminds you of the good memories as well, during the times we played without any arguements. That goes to the few members left here that I knew, Sami, Sight, etc.

I have stayed away from Ambrosian servers for more than 6 months at least, I realize some people may have faked me from time to time. I recently tried to reach the owners for a quiet discussion about me returning but, someone here banned me because he thought I flamed him on ts3. I realize, tensions are high but, I want to avoid any kind of fight, more than you do.

As far as damaging Ambrosia's reputation/servers/forum/host, I have already told Shark and Casper that I am willing to pay for them and somehow balance the bad with good by donating and/or advertising and generally aiming for the better of this community (still, I understand if someone doesn't feel it's fair). I would like to apologize to Ezza, Raven, Rawr, Spek, anyone who was working their ass off to improve this site and I was just parading around doing the exact opposite. People go through weird phases in life and we later come back and look how deaf and unapologetic we were. I'm eager to fix this, should you let me do it.

I understand I could just banevade under a new account, I have done that before but these are childish actions that doesn't give justice to you and especially to me. My Steam id is 1730, it always has been and since I am on level 114 with 140 games behind me, it is wise to think that i would not dare cheat on it ever.

Shark has accepted to help me and Casper has showed some leniency (or maybe he could not translate my PM and he let it go). I take the initiative here and address every Ambrosia member, since it's the right attitude to have. I believe people can keep ddosing a server, as people can keep rejecting someone's request for forgiveness. Both are wrong, one does not justify the other. I'm confident that we can all put this behind us (even if it is bitter to some) and I will put my little stone in the building of a better Ambrosia, even as a regular member. My comeback is not to play in the servers, it is merely to apologize and prove to all that past unfortunate events are behind me, as people do change. Anyone is welcomed to add me on steam or invite me to a teamspeak server to chat and further prove my statements are not far from the truth.

Thank you.




Offline Big Bob

Unban Request
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2014, 08:15:53 pm »
Welcome to the official Unban Request Section in the Ambrosia Forums.

Shortly, the Unban Panel will review and deal with your unban request. In the mean time you must not banevade (Definition: Using any form of proxy or a different IP/Unique ID to evade the ban). This will cause your unban request to be denied immediately!

You should also make sure that your unban request is filled in properly and complies with all the Unban Request Rules and that your ban information is correct from the Banlist(CS 1.6 Only)! If your unban request is not done properly and it doesn't comply with our requirements then we reserve the right not to deal with the request!

If your ban is related to cheating, then the Ambrosian Admin has a maximum of 48 hours to upload and provide the demo in this unban request. Please remember that Admins are only required to keep the demo for a duration of 7 days. After that they are not obliged to keep it any longer. You will also need to upload the automatic screenshot made just before the ban was enforced. You can find this screenshot in your cstrike folder, under the format '[mapname]00*'. Example: de_dust2001. You should attach this immediately in your unban request as it will help you and ourselves in determining the case more effectively.


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Offline Razzi

Re: Unban Request
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2014, 08:55:31 pm »
I just have a feeling to support you, iv'e known you from the past abit and understood your actions. Seems you had some patience and its quite odd from what iv'e known, you willing to help out.


Good luck ipawn

Offline NoahJ

Re: Unban Request
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2014, 09:19:44 pm »
Thank you Terrabon. Just as a sidenote, I have been waiting a long time because it took me a long time to fully realize the ban incidents that occured and how much responsibility i carry for them. I really need your approval and let me build that which I so easily tried to demolish. Without your allowance, leniancy and trust, I won't be able to prove that, not to mention I won't come back with unban requests. The point of this is to reach you, not the unban itself. I don't want to force your hand but, it would really let me down if someone just showed up and banned me with the reason "Sorry we don't think you deserve anything" etc. It would be fair in the past but, right now i do not deserve such a slap and I hope you let me prove it to you, through solid donations to compenstate the issues i caused, as well as through solid mature behavior towards members that approach me with good or bad intentions.

Offline Ed

Re: Unban Request
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2014, 09:30:13 pm »
This is Emperors jurisdiction. Await response from them.
Removed terrabons reply.
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Offline NoahJ

Re: Unban Request
« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2014, 09:45:44 pm »
This is Emperors jurisdiction. Await response from them.
Removed terrabons reply.

I think that all members can express their positive or negative opinions about me, I want to re-establish good relations with old friends that were lost, people that have no idea who i am, new people who only heard the bad side of me, anyone. I'm eager to do that but, I can't without a bit of will from you guys. As far as donations go, it is strictly for the financial impact that ddos had, not to buy my way in..

Offline Ed

Re: Unban Request
« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2014, 09:52:01 pm »
We don't need people to sympathize of what you have done in the past and forgive you. Topic Locked.
I highly advise not to post anywhere unless you are being unbanned.

Await reply from Owners!
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Offline Ezzα

Re: Unban Request
« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2014, 10:13:32 pm »
I will ultimately leave this decision for Casper to make although my opinion is that whatever happens with your topic should also be parallel to that of Liams's just to keep things fair.

Offline Raven E II R

Re: Unban Request
« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2014, 10:21:46 pm »
I think we have gave you many opportunities and chances in the past to prove us that you have changed but everytime you have gone back to your old ways let us not forget that the last incident with you was only 6 months ago and that isn't a lot of time for someone to change at all, as the saying goes - a leopard never changes its spots.

You have had total disregard for our rules here and total disregard not only to the Leaders of Ambrosia but most of all the members who have done absolutely nothing to you when all they want to do is simply play and have fun in their spare time, as you were effecting them more than me or the rest of the team. To be honest, the likes of you just gives me more motivation to scatter your knavish tricks towards us. I see no point in unbanning you as it will simply be another cycle and you'll end up banned again here when you try and go back into your old character when you do not get your own way and I do not intend to waste my time with unnecessary childish behaviour when there is bigger things going on in the world that matter to me and the rest of us.

There is nothing you could do to change my opinion as I am of the high opinion that you haven't changed, I've seen requests like this before off you and how did they end up? You're probably still in contact with the likes of the other ones that are banned for the same reason as you are along with your other reasons. If you want to add anything else to explain yourself then you may but as I said from my thoughts and valuation of this it will simply end up the same as the last time and the time after that. Where is this approval from Shark and Casper? Please elaborate on that part also.

I will unlock this topic for the reply from you. I request and demand that no other forum member responds to this unban request but the appellant, Emperors and Rawrplus should he so wish to.
"I am an Ambrosian"

Offline NoahJ

Re: Unban Request
« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2014, 10:39:26 pm »
I think we have gave you many opportunities and chances in the past to prove us that you have changed but everytime you have gone back to your old ways let us not forget that the last incident with you was only 6 months ago and that isn't a lot of time for someone to change at all, as the saying goes - a leopard never changes its spots.

You have had total disregard for our rules here and total disregard not only to the Leaders of Ambrosia but most of all the members who have done absolutely nothing to you when all they want to do is simply play and have fun in their spare time, as you were effecting them more than me or the rest of the team. To be honest, the likes of you just gives me more motivation to scatter your knavish tricks towards us. I see no point in unbanning you as it will simply be another cycle and you'll end up banned again here when you try and go back into your old character when you do not get your own way and I do not intend to waste my time with unnecessary childish behaviour when there is bigger things going on in the world that matter to me and the rest of us.

There is nothing you could do to change my opinion as I am of the high opinion that you haven't changed, I've seen requests like this before off you and how did they end up? You're probably still in contact with the likes of the other ones that are banned for the same reason as you are along with your other reasons. If you want to add anything else to explain yourself then you may but as I said from my thoughts and valuation of this it will simply end up the same as the last time and the time after that. Where is this approval from Shark and Casper? Please elaborate on that part also.

I will unlock this topic for the reply from you. I request and demand that no other forum member responds to this unban request but the appellant, Emperors and Rawrplus should he so wish to.

You can ask Shark to confirm it. I am well aware that you think of me as much worse than i actually am. The only chance I was given was by people like Sami, Sight and Arne, who invited me to their teamspeak one day to discuss but I chose not to. You have always been against me but, it doesn't matter to me. If you want to keep thinking that I want to trick you, you are free to do so. I will prove you wrong. Sometimes, people want to make things right, even if it is a big or a small thing, regardless of what it involves. The chances and the incidents that happened in the past are so complex that it's pointless to discuss them here. Many of them also happened before you had returned to Ambrosia, so there is a tiny chance that you haven't seen what a different approach i had towards ambrosia before that downfall started. Still, you are right in most things but, leave a small gap for a third opinion.

As far as Ezza is concerned, I have no problem against him, I never had. And to link me to liam is not something that I would like, we are not the same person and you are automatically putting me to carry his sins along with mine. I don't think that's fair.

For Rawrplus, I don't really know him well, haven't spoken to him once. For spekbinder, I mixed with him many times in the past and we were doing fine, until that shit with Tasha started. For Sami and Sight, they are both good lads, I may have failed them in the past.

Now, to sum up, If I'm to be dragged through piss and sh!t, then let me be. So what if it's completely ridiculous, I deserve it. So what if every random person here slaps me with his comment, i deserve that too. It's ok. That's life, people makes mistakes, people apologize, people don't apologize. People forget, people keep grudges until they are dead. Raven, the "likes of me" is a bold statement, since you only know my online profile, which differs a ton from my profile irl. I don't provoke you, I'm just stating that perhaps it's time you meet my good side, should you want to.

Offline Ezzα

Re: Unban Request
« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2014, 10:44:05 pm »
And to link me to liam is not something that I would like, we are not the same person and you are automatically putting me to carry his sins along with mine. I don't think that's fair.


I am not asking you to carry his sins, all i am saying is that whichever decision Casper gives you. The same should apply for Liam as well.

Offline NoahJ

Re: Unban Request
« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2014, 10:52:22 pm »
And to link me to liam is not something that I would like, we are not the same person and you are automatically putting me to carry his sins along with mine. I don't think that's fair.


I am not asking you to carry his sins, all i am saying is that whichever decision Casper gives you. The same should apply for Liam as well.

And I am saying that we are not the same person, the fact that you have linked him as being the same as me or the opposite, does not really put justice to me. I'm saying this with the best intentions, although I know it might be taken the wrong way..

I pretty much assume Casper may ask me to pay my way in, that's another bold statement that I make now but it's more of an assumption. I will donate to Ambrosia either way, to compensate Shark mostly, since he was the owner back then. So half goes directly to him and half to the community (and casper obviously). However, I do not wish this to be considered my "method" of getting unbanned..

Offline Raven E II R

Re: Unban Request
« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2014, 10:59:33 pm »
Actually in one of your appeals I actually supported you when I returned so you can have a chance to change but you ended up banned again. - Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.

You have had your opportunity for it and that has long been gone, I do not think you deserve a 3+ chance, you've made your decision with your actions and this has become the consequence of it, at the end of the day, you should of thought about it then as it's too late now in my eyes.

If you'd of caused no disturbance of the peace here, you wouldn't have an issue with me or the rest of us. I think you should acknowledge that seeing things from my perspective also you would be sceptical about this case, would you not?
"I am an Ambrosian"

Offline NoahJ

Re: Unban Request
« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2014, 11:05:13 pm »
Actually in one of your appeals I actually supported you when I returned so you can have a chance to change but you ended up banned again. - Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.

You have had your opportunity for it and that has long been gone, I do not think you deserve a 3+ chance, you've made your decision with your actions and this has become the consequence of it, at the end of the day, you should of thought about it then as it's too late now in my eyes.

If you'd of caused no disturbance of the peace here, you wouldn't have an issue with me or the rest of us. I think you should acknowledge that seeing things from my perspective also you would be sceptical about this case, would you not?

I understand you completely and i agree with everything you say. I did not claim that you are wrong at the accusations themselves. I merely stated that there is a part of me that you haven't seen and only old members here have, when we used to play together and be active in this community. Have i done what you have to help? No, not even 1%. Will you be happy if I'm unbanned? No, you won't be. Will I appreciate a positive look at me and a fresh start? More than anything.

I do not wish you to turn your minds upside down for me. I haven't cheated for months and months. I used to support cheating. Now, when a cheater just smashes me in a csgo server, I feel mad, sad, frustrated. It's the same thing here. I couldn't possibly support cheating again. But could I support a cheater that wants to stop cheating? Yes I would, even if i had 10 million little voices in the back of my head saying "watch out". It's never easy but, all it takes is a step forward, Raven.

Offline NoahJ

Re: Unban Request
« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2014, 11:28:25 pm »


Hi wasp. Yes, that's another logical question. The reasons behind it are many. For once, I owe these people a straightforward apology and a compensation (financially) for my ridiculous performance in the past, regardless if I am unbanned or not in forum and servers. Secondly, this is a community that I actually loved once and was possibly the most active user (1888 hours of Jailbreak). You return back to something to either harm or to fix. I came back to fix things after having fixed me (my flaws). Chances are not 2,5 or 6. They are countless. Each given at different times by a member, it doesn't have to be a chance by counting the unban requests. I have gathered all of them and counted them, even if they were 1, it wouldn't justify a bad action or a demand. I'm not here demanding, I'm here as a different person reaching up to everyone with good intentions.
« Last Edit: January 24, 2014, 11:53:24 pm by Wasp »

Offline NoahJ

Re: Unban Request
« Reply #15 on: January 24, 2014, 11:50:53 pm »
[Removed by Wasp] Will wait when it's open for general discussions

You are free to establish your own opinion about me and the situation. However, since you are doing it strictly from these posts and what others tell you, it's safe to consider that I may be no fairytale or linked to the "likes of me". It's hard enough to harm a community the way i did and it's even harder to prove that my good side has overcome my bad side. It takes a good amount of faith, which I can't give you, unfortunately. Casper and Shark are actual owners, so at least as far as financial part is concerned, i should be addressing them (i assume they handle the payments). Thanks for your comment.

edit: Actually, I don't know if you are Cersei, in that case you do know me a bit better than just posts.
« Last Edit: January 24, 2014, 11:54:41 pm by Wasp »

Offline ___ÇλŠקΣя.___

Re: Unban Request
« Reply #16 on: January 25, 2014, 02:44:55 am »
Nice ! here we go again ....

i like you and Tolga for one thing  do you know what is it?  You making some actions in the forum  every time that we need it :D

Now ! do you remember what i said to you after you got Ban? huh?

" you will never get unbanned in ambrosia community , indeed there is no reason to explaining why since i cant translate your PM and blabla , i don't care about the money you offered to pay because you were playing with that fat bastard rich guy who can buy all the houses in your town

Denied




« Last Edit: January 25, 2014, 02:49:21 am by ___ÇλŠקΣя.___ »
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Offline NoahJ

Re: Unban Request
« Reply #17 on: January 25, 2014, 03:26:28 am »
Nice ! here we go again ....

i like you and Tolga for one thing  do you know what is it?  You making some actions in the forum  every time that we need it :D

Now ! do you remember what i said to you after you got Ban? huh?

" you will never get unbanned in ambrosia community , indeed there is no reason to explaining why since i cant translate your PM and blabla , i don't care about the money you offered to pay because you were playing with that fat bastard rich guy who can buy all the houses in your town

Denied


I never accused you of being all that. You are really confused between me and the many multiaccounters that may have said those things. And for the love of god, you prove them right. You bluntly tell me to go to hell and you take everything in your arms, denying me like I'm a piece of trash, because you carry the rank "owner". If Shark was the only owner, he would not respond with such a childish way and he is younger than you are.

I do admit my faults but, I also need to point out yours if we are going to be even in this conversation. I'm not the guy I was and I won't be dragged into the same childish dialogs like the one you just started. I have never approached you or said these things about you. As far as I can remember, your arguements of this nature were between tolga and some other random people ddosing your community. Jesus Christ, I have even sat down and calculated how much damage i did by the downtime, the firewall, the CF premium, the change of host and the periods where Ambrosia was actually making money from advertisements, in order for me to estimate the exact amount of money that I owe to you AND Shark. If you think I came here to beg you or throw 500$ at your face and demand my way in, then you are mistaken. I came to be fair and square with all of you and eliminate any cruelty that you hold against me (since i hold none no more). You know my weak spot is when I make an honest move and I'm getting slapped in the face like that.

Edit: And I just realized you even confused me with Liam as well. The phrase that you quoted was not even directed to Tolga but to Liam. Awesome..
« Last Edit: January 25, 2014, 03:32:22 am by NoahJ »

Offline Ed

Re: Unban Request
« Reply #18 on: January 25, 2014, 09:04:21 am »
Right. You was never approved to make this unban request in the first place. Your eagerness and impatience has proved once again, taking things in your own hand. You were advised that Owners will talk about it and the final word will be from Casper.
This only proves once again, leopard doesn't change his spots. You and Liam's (Luxx) case is completely different, but due to the circumstances Luxx was involved, it will be hard for him to get another chance. Where as for you and tolga it's impossible. Not at this time.

You cannot expect people to like you or say, ok, lets put everything behind. You pay for the actions with consequences. You didn't believe that we would last, we did. What changed now? You came previously with long posts for unban and when you were denied you would start another ddoss attacks. Why do you think we want to trust you anymore?

I have tried to talk sense in to you, but you disregarded it and well, everything what was good about you was destroyed by yourself. Don't blame anyone for not seeing your good side, which you had, when you destroyed it with your actions. 6 months isn't long.

Funny, as much harm you have done to our members, community and staff, I would always consider a chance, but you will have to prove it. People do change indeed, but actions speak before words.
Also, don't fool us with "costs" and harm you have done. The harm you have made is much larger than just money. In a way you made us stronger, but that doesn't mean that we forgive you for what you have done or that we will let you off so easily.

Learn from your mistakes. I suppose don't banevade.....but that's something we know will happen and happen.

Good luck and goodbye.

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