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Offline Ed

Re: If you could improve 1 thing in Ambrosia what would it be?
« Reply #40 on: January 22, 2014, 03:30:45 pm »
Consistency in banning process + change/increase in timed bans - e.g swearing  = 1 day ban, racism = 1 week ban etc.
With a thread showing how long a ban for each offence and point out that no chance for unban before time is up if guilty.
This would remove some pointless unban threads being made, also clearing up time for more important things.
Would also make players think twice before committing an offence with higher ban times with no chance of unban.

edit - most importantly - permanent = permanent!

A very good suggestion sMit. We have already enforced this method as of recently due to the pointless unban requests. More and more people will have no chances of having another unban appeals if we revoke the rights for any future appeals permanently. Same as if we deny someone who still got rights for unban appeal, they would be provided with a date when they can make another appeal for consideration.

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Re: If you could improve 1 thing in Ambrosia what would it be?
« Reply #41 on: January 22, 2014, 07:44:42 pm »
Demote/Perm Ban card clasher for being arrogant + rude and bad manners with people. ill be warned for my opinion for sure haha

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Re: If you could improve 1 thing in Ambrosia what would it be?
« Reply #42 on: January 22, 2014, 07:58:49 pm »
Demote/Perm Ban card clasher for being arrogant + rude and bad manners with people. ill be warned for my opinion for sure haha

Good guesser.

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Re: If you could improve 1 thing in Ambrosia what would it be?
« Reply #43 on: January 22, 2014, 08:16:36 pm »
Would like to share mine opinions too. But it's not going to be only 1.

To begin with, agree with people talking about treating everybody equally, but also agree with Raw's reply. That depends on characteristics, you can't change people or they actions.

1. Admin applications and ranks. I don't know how applications are reviewed, but I think it depends on their activity in-game and the amount of supports/no supports. Many times, I've witnessed wrong people becoming an admin. People who swear, insult, look down at others, disrespectful and start all acting bossy when they become an admin. In addition, does the server always needs admins? Not really. So how about locking or disabling the option for admin applications, rather than having 10 people applying everyday?

Privacy in high rank choices would be useful. When made public, the people who care about ranks and aiming to get power, leads to conflicts between people and triggers hatred. Yes soon or later people will realise promotions have been made but reaction won't be as effective.

Finally, suggestions of admins and getting out-powered by rankers. When an admin makes a suggestion either in public or privately, HA should consider. I don't see much of a teamwork going on. I only remember getting along very well with Redshift in Gun Game server where he would ask every admin "How can we improve?, What should we do? What should we add? What should we remove?" Etc...

2. Forum design. I've said this many times before. Both the forum and the ban list, has poor readability, not responsive and old. My suggestion would be to the change the layout and design completely. Ambrosia is growing and stepping into different game platforms too so I think my suggestion would perfectly fit in. Instead of installing SMF on public directory, install it in a directory: forum. So the domain of the forum would be: ambrosia-servers.com/forum . Install WordPress or similar basic blog script on homepage. Instead of announcing the news at this board, News and Announcements all the news, information and announcements can be made and display on the homepage. Better SEO, more efficient, more traffic.

3. Server choices. Headshot and Gun Game servers were simply the best we had. I'm putting DD2 aside. I had never seen Gun Game empty even at mad times. Until server was lagging the hell out of everybody and although I wrote to all HS about it no body replied, eventually server shut. Headshot server was my favorite. I got happy when a UC asked my opinion about a new server. Not going to name him but he asked me about Headshot or Multimod servers and what would be better. For the first time I actually thought somebody cares about what people/ambrosians think and want. But I guess got out-powered by others. And it was Multimod server:

It's a good server, although Headshot server would of been a more wise decision.

So what happened to Multimod? ... The amount of suggestions people made for Headshot server.

4. Bans. Agree with sMiTs suggestions. We should have a fixed duration for certain bans. Number of times I see people getting banned for swearing, some for few hours, some for few days, I personally banned someone permanently. Each violation should have a certain fixed duration. Example (Just an example, durations could vary after discussions); insults: 1 day, swearing: 3 days, swearing heavily: Permanent/1 week, racism: Permanent/3 months and so on...

5. Nicks. Just like headers post, people shouldn't be allowed to change nicks like pants or socks.

This is it for now, will write more when I remember and if I need to. Thanks.
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Re: If you could improve 1 thing in Ambrosia what would it be?
« Reply #44 on: January 22, 2014, 09:35:28 pm »
good point deverim, as i said those little fast map as gungame was always full ,sad they were closed  :( , if there is a financial issue mix it with DM (just suggestion)  :)





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Re: If you could improve 1 thing in Ambrosia what would it be?
« Reply #45 on: January 22, 2014, 10:05:27 pm »
I had never seen Gun Game empty even at mad times.

Exactly.
It was fun to play and it was at least half full all the time. The only prob it had was having few admins (6-8 admins if I'm not mistaken). I also recall the server's head admin - Redshift - being removed (and his server shutdown) despite his great job in what was, in my eyes, the worse decision ever taken since I've been here. To be honest I never understood why gungame was removed in the first place (same goes for zombie server), since it was clearly popular, even when compared with the other servers you had at the time.
Well, this is my opinion.

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« Last Edit: January 22, 2014, 11:37:37 pm by Nip »

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Re: If you could improve 1 thing in Ambrosia what would it be?
« Reply #46 on: January 23, 2014, 03:03:15 am »
Would like to share mine opinions too. But it's not going to be only 1.

To begin with, agree with people talking about treating everybody equally, but also agree with Raw's reply. That depends on characteristics, you can't change people or they actions.

1. Admin applications and ranks. I don't know how applications are reviewed, but I think it depends on their activity in-game and the amount of supports/no supports. Many times, I've witnessed wrong people becoming an admin. People who swear, insult, look down at others, disrespectful and start all acting bossy when they become an admin. In addition, does the server always needs admins? Not really. So how about locking or disabling the option for admin applications, rather than having 10 people applying everyday?

Privacy in high rank choices would be useful. When made public, the people who care about ranks and aiming to get power, leads to conflicts between people and triggers hatred. Yes soon or later people will realise promotions have been made but reaction won't be as effective.

Finally, suggestions of admins and getting out-powered by rankers. When an admin makes a suggestion either in public or privately, HA should consider. I don't see much of a teamwork going on. I only remember getting along very well with Redshift in Gun Game server where he would ask every admin "How can we improve?, What should we do? What should we add? What should we remove?" Etc...

2. Forum design. I've said this many times before. Both the forum and the ban list, has poor readability, not responsive and old. My suggestion would be to the change the layout and design completely. Ambrosia is growing and stepping into different game platforms too so I think my suggestion would perfectly fit in. Instead of installing SMF on public directory, install it in a directory: forum. So the domain of the forum would be: ambrosia-servers.com/forum . Install WordPress or similar basic blog script on homepage. Instead of announcing the news at this board, News and Announcements all the news, information and announcements can be made and display on the homepage. Better SEO, more efficient, more traffic.

3. Server choices. Headshot and Gun Game servers were simply the best we had. I'm putting DD2 aside. I had never seen Gun Game empty even at mad times. Until server was lagging the hell out of everybody and although I wrote to all HS about it no body replied, eventually server shut. Headshot server was my favorite. I got happy when a UC asked my opinion about a new server. Not going to name him but he asked me about Headshot or Multimod servers and what would be better. For the first time I actually thought somebody cares about what people/ambrosians think and want. But I guess got out-powered by others. And it was Multimod server:

It's a good server, although Headshot server would of been a more wise decision.

So what happened to Multimod? ... The amount of suggestions people made for Headshot server.

4. Bans. Agree with sMiTs suggestions. We should have a fixed duration for certain bans. Number of times I see people getting banned for swearing, some for few hours, some for few days, I personally banned someone permanently. Each violation should have a certain fixed duration. Example (Just an example, durations could vary after discussions); insults: 1 day, swearing: 3 days, swearing heavily: Permanent/1 week, racism: Permanent/3 months and so on...

5. Nicks. Just like headers post, people shouldn't be allowed to change nicks like pants or socks.

This is it for now, will write more when I remember and if I need to. Thanks.

Gungame server was actually one of those that was least active, including aim/hs. Peak periods would only last around 45 minutes and would drizzle at maybe 3-4 players average every hour


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Re: If you could improve 1 thing in Ambrosia what would it be?
« Reply #47 on: January 23, 2014, 03:53:16 am »
stop long quote's if you are going to type one sentence, this was aimed @Header.

im more of a reader.. at the moment anyway :)

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Re: If you could improve 1 thing in Ambrosia what would it be?
« Reply #48 on: January 23, 2014, 09:55:31 pm »
Well you asked for my honest oppinion, so here you go.

Communication, regarding the latest big DDOS case, Liam.
He seems like a nice guy, yes he might sure have done something bad but the community can't see that if you, Shark, do not give them an explanation. Yes you are indeed the owner like i said in his unban request, but without giving the community a constructive response regarding why hes denied. Then you'll not be liked by quite a few of us, or at least not by me. I also think that if Ambrosia does indeed fall, this would be a major reason why which is why you should avoid it. You should be connected with the community and kindly explain what and why, yet i do not see this being done here.
Please just take this in consideration next time, it was rather dissappointing seing this being handled like it was.

Sincerely,

Pim
« Last Edit: January 23, 2014, 11:07:13 pm by Pim »


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Re: If you could improve 1 thing in Ambrosia what would it be?
« Reply #49 on: January 24, 2014, 09:46:19 pm »
1.  Well i can say that treating people the same way is imposible. I have tryed it and i have nearly done it but there are always some differences between them but i think there should be and it isnt a problem. Some people are just for example more arrogant or normaly abuse more then others so when they do something bad they should get a bigger punishment because it isnt fair for the others which have always been like angels. So everyone should be treated nearly equal because as i said they are all different people and do different things. But some people really cross all the lines of the words "nearly equal".

2.  Also i agree that when the staff is warning someone for something he shouldn't do it as well because as someone said it really gets ridiculous.

3.  Little more communication between the high staff and the normal players even admins. Because the high staff dont really respond to them enough in my eyes. And no one should be ignored.

4.  Someone said that admins are abusing at JB well that is normal :D. And i think that this people should get punished because as i said many times before there must be a great discipline in the server if you want to bring it to the top. We can see that this is working in real life, in countrys like Germany and England for example. This are countrys which have laws which are strictly followed and everything is runing like it should run that is why then are on the top. And for this to happen the Hight staff of the server should follow the rules on 100% and never abuse so they can give an example to the others. ;)


That is my opinion. And i cant suggest a way this could be dont. I just want everyone to read this and understand it because for me this is the way everything should run.


I came to visit the forum as i miss ambrosia a lot and found this topic so i liked it, read it all and decided to post as well.

Love you guys!


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Re: If you could improve 1 thing in Ambrosia what would it be?
« Reply #50 on: January 24, 2014, 10:26:32 pm »
4.  Someone said that admins are abusing at JB well that is normal :D. And i think that this people should get punished because as i said many times before there must be a great discipline in the server if you want to bring it to the top. We can see that this is working in real life, in countrys like Germany and England for example. This are countrys which have laws which are strictly followed and everything is runing like it should run that is why then are on the top. And for this to happen the Hight staff of the server should follow the rules on 100% and never abuse so they can give an example to the others. ;)

And that's why the JB server began to lose players at your prime. It lack the most important bit which is of course fun and the enjoyment of the  server. You made it so strict that everyone was basically reporting each other and nowdays, well, I've hardly seen any reports coming from admins or players. Anyway, you did well responding to those reports and looking after the server.

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Re: If you could improve 1 thing in Ambrosia what would it be?
« Reply #51 on: January 25, 2014, 01:21:49 am »
4.  Someone said that admins are abusing at JB well that is normal :D. And i think that this people should get punished because as i said many times before there must be a great discipline in the server if you want to bring it to the top. We can see that this is working in real life, in countrys like Germany and England for example. This are countrys which have laws which are strictly followed and everything is runing like it should run that is why then are on the top. And for this to happen the Hight staff of the server should follow the rules on 100% and never abuse so they can give an example to the others. ;)
People should not be punished since i have a diffrent way doing things. I don't really see where is the abuse because i dont see any reports about my admins at least till now. I always look at the fact's i don't listen what people say. And other then that jailbreak server is a fun server so "EVERYONE" should have fun not only members admins should have also a bit fun too no? They are also humans and they can make mistakes. I dont spy my admins by checking logs and see what they did and what they do. if there is a report then ofc i will look up to it if an admin needs to be suspended/demoted i will do that. Things changed in jailbreak swearing is allowed now but if you offend any one they will be banned swearing words like "S H I T" "f u c k"etc.... I think that every body use this words at least 1 time a day. Now don't get me wrong i am not saying that your way was bad it was just strict to much and admins couldn't have fun only members. Now every one has a diffrent way of working and doing things.

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Re: If you could improve 1 thing in Ambrosia what would it be?
« Reply #52 on: January 25, 2014, 07:10:15 am »
Well you asked for my honest oppinion, so here you go.

Communication, regarding the latest big DDOS case, Liam.
He seems like a nice guy, yes he might sure have done something bad but the community can't see that if you, Shark, do not give them an explanation. Yes you are indeed the owner like i said in his unban request, but without giving the community a constructive response regarding why hes denied. Then you'll not be liked by quite a few of us, or at least not by me. I also think that if Ambrosia does indeed fall, this would be a major reason why which is why you should avoid it. You should be connected with the community and kindly explain what and why, yet i do not see this being done here.
Please just take this in consideration next time, it was rather dissappointing seing this being handled like it was.

Sincerely,

Pim
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4.  Someone said that admins are abusing at JB well that is normal :D. And i think that this people should get punished because as i said many times before there must be a great discipline in the server if you want to bring it to the top. We can see that this is working in real life, in countrys like Germany and England for example. This are countrys which have laws which are strictly followed and everything is runing like it should run that is why then are on the top. And for this to happen the Hight staff of the server should follow the rules on 100% and never abuse so they can give an example to the others. ;)
People should not be punished since i have a diffrent way doing things. I don't really see where is the abuse because i dont see any reports about my admins at least till now. I always look at the fact's i don't listen what people say. And other then that jailbreak server is a fun server so "EVERYONE" should have fun not only members admins should have also a bit fun too no? They are also humans and they can make mistakes. I dont spy my admins by checking logs and see what they did and what they do. if there is a report then ofc i will look up to it if an admin needs to be suspended/demoted i will do that. Things changed in jailbreak swearing is allowed now but if you offend any one they will be banned swearing words like "S H I T" "f u c k"etc.... I think that every body use this words at least 1 time a day. Now don't get me wrong i am not saying that your way was bad it was just strict to much and admins couldn't have fun only members. Now every one has a diffrent way of working and doing things.

Cheers
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Re: If you could improve 1 thing in Ambrosia what would it be?
« Reply #53 on: January 25, 2014, 08:01:22 am »
Demote/Perm Ban card clasher for being arrogant + rude and bad manners with people. ill be warned for my opinion for sure haha

He have a good point  :-\

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Re: If you could improve 1 thing in Ambrosia what would it be?
« Reply #54 on: January 25, 2014, 09:22:07 am »
Demote/Perm Ban card clasher for being arrogant + rude and bad manners with people. ill be warned for my opinion for sure haha

He have a good point  :-\

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Re: If you could improve 1 thing in Ambrosia what would it be?
« Reply #55 on: January 26, 2014, 09:31:22 am »
It is hard for people to see the difference between fun-following the rules-no abusing. And i will never be able to explain this because i have tryed it enough times and no one understood it. Just fun can be made with no abusing but nor everyone can do it. Most of the people think that when there is no abusing there is no fun. And when an admin comes and fires all he said it was fun. Well for me this cant be fun or this fun is just for 1 moment and it ends. The fun that is needed is something on a much higher level. Like admins making jokes, CTs making jokes, making fun games and stuff like that. Games with gravity or something like that doesnt mean abuse for me. Just the admins didnt get me when i said no abusing and didnt do such stuff. But i dont find this as abusing if you put gravity for a game. But they were too afraid to do this. The point is that they just couldnt get the difference between abusing and using amx for fun. Because it is much different if you rocket all for fun or if you give gravity for all for fun.

 Anyways it doesnt matter anymore. I hope the server is getting better now. And i really want it to be on the top as this is the best server i have ever played in and i really like it so i would never wish anything bad for it.


I hope my old m8s roni and sami will do this. Good luck <3


Regards,
Monster

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Re: If you could improve 1 thing in Ambrosia what would it be?
« Reply #56 on: January 26, 2014, 10:16:03 am »
Disable nickname changes for Ambrosia staff, especially for high staff. High staff's nicknames must stay static.

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Re: If you could improve 1 thing in Ambrosia what would it be?
« Reply #57 on: January 26, 2014, 10:24:44 am »
I don't see people should stick with their nicknames for life, especially as there is a thread where Admins can post their old and new names. You can even remove a tatoo in life so what is a issue with nicknames as long as everyone is informed
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Re: If you could improve 1 thing in Ambrosia what would it be?
« Reply #58 on: January 26, 2014, 11:26:47 am »
I don't see people should stick with their nicknames for life, especially as there is a thread where Admins can post their old and new names. You can even remove a tatoo in life so what is a issue with nicknames as long as everyone is informed

because we aren't informed :)


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Re: If you could improve 1 thing in Ambrosia what would it be?
« Reply #59 on: January 26, 2014, 11:32:38 am »
Then it should have been put in that way: NO changing nicknames without informing general audience
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