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Offline Rawrplus

If you could improve 1 thing in Ambrosia what would it be?
« on: January 19, 2014, 06:38:27 pm »
Now here's a little thing I'd like to become a tradition. Ever-so-rarely I'd like this kind of topic to hover around our forums with your feedback and suggestions. Naturally, we in high-staff have been working our asses off on improving the Community as much as possible, but sometimes it's easy to go burn-out and overlook even the most blatant fatal flaw carelessly (slips right off your tongue, doesn't it?). And now that's the part where community support kicks in, it's not an easy task to strive to be the best around but we certainly are motivated enough and strive to be and such a thing is impossible to accomplish without feedback of others - as well have different opinions on certain policies and so on, but sometimes all you need is a definitve word from majority to change your opinion about something. Often we even came to an argument with fellow visitors who arrogantly post on our forums that we are unable to take criticism, which I somewhat understand where they are coming from, but there's a slight difference between a well-constructed criticism with worthwhile content and just stupid nitpicking.

Either way, what I've been trying to say is - Here's everyone's chance to honestly post what they think we could improve on. I'm sure there's something you can dig up or are even aware of for a long time but was just afraid to post it. Heck, I work in the staff team and can think of things where we could and should definitely work on.

So ladies and gentlemen, here it is, unpopular opinion, a secret wish, opinion on how certain things are handled or asking Rawr to stop with stupid Dark Souls references, here's your chance to post 1 and most important thing that you'd like Ambrosia to improve on. Please be brutally honest, as it's always more useful to us than just sugar-coating something you think is a total stupidity just afraid to say it. And well.. that's also sort of the reason why this topic was posted.

Before you start using your shiny whiteknight keyboard instruments, please allow me to remind you about one thing - Although we allow all sorts of criticism in this topic, harsh ones, personal ones, or even non-important details - please follow a certain pattern:

  • The criticism has to be least somewhat structured and provide meaningful feedback
  • Instead of only pointing out the mistake, please try to think of a way we should fix it as well
  • Try to keep in lines of reality, we won't buy 58 new Battlefield 4 Servers, neither post a nude picture of Cardclasher since some pervert demanded it

Now that's out of the way, we're looking forward to your opinions and sincerely hope we will be able to work on them in the near future. Also apologies for the corny topic with lots of shitty jokes and phrases but my brain is sort of going nuts after a 3 days constant studying for an exam.

Best Regards
R+
« Last Edit: January 19, 2014, 06:41:12 pm by Rawrplus »


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Offline thEnd

Re: If you could improve 1 thing in Ambrosia what would it be?
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2014, 07:03:07 pm »
I will be brutally honest like always. When I will have time to sat on my laptop and a spare moment.
Glad to see this emerging :)

Re: If you could improve 1 thing in Ambrosia what would it be?
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2014, 07:53:43 pm »
Everyone should be treated equal. Just because you're admin doesn't mean you can treat everyone else like shit, same with HA, UC, etc..

Offline Nutella

Re: If you could improve 1 thing in Ambrosia what would it be?
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2014, 08:42:19 pm »
Everyone should be treated equal. Just because you're admin doesn't mean you can treat everyone else like shit, same with HA, UC, etc..
+1. I really think the same as dominic does.

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Re: If you could improve 1 thing in Ambrosia what would it be?
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2014, 08:59:33 pm »
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Instead of only pointing out the mistake, please try to think of a way we should fix it as well

i don't see a solution in the comments above tho


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Re: If you could improve 1 thing in Ambrosia what would it be?
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2014, 09:51:42 pm »
If an Highstaff warns somone for doing something like: Insulting/Spamming/Going Off topic.

They should at least NOT do the same thing. As it's ridiculous.
Rest is fine.

Also good explained by dominic.

EDIT:

Example: "You have been warned for inuslting." --- "Saying: You're pathtic, and shut up"

What should not happen after: "The guy who warns should not: Call somone pathetic, or inulst in a diffrent way"

Where is the logic of the warn then? ;=)
« Last Edit: January 20, 2014, 01:32:06 pm by Fisu »

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Re: If you could improve 1 thing in Ambrosia what would it be?
« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2014, 10:04:34 pm »
Dear Mister Samuel,

I've known you long enough to tell you STOP TROLLING ME !

Did Cersei put you up to the nude part ?


Offline Deathknife

Re: If you could improve 1 thing in Ambrosia what would it be?
« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2014, 10:11:16 pm »
Freedom of speech. I can't even say 'g-a-y' (gay) without being censored. Makes me thing Ambrosia is homophobic.
Also can't say ga-y but can say lesbian.

Double standards.


You might just stop censoring any words, this isn't kindergarten is it?

Offline Rawrplus

Re: If you could improve 1 thing in Ambrosia what would it be?
« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2014, 10:17:10 pm »
I'll give you answers to all feedback tomorow :) Also will obviously welcome more feedback, so don't be shy guys. Also thanks to those who already replied, I definitely agree with certain parts, but as I said, will touch on them detailed tomorow noon'


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Offline tajski

Re: If you could improve 1 thing in Ambrosia what would it be?
« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2014, 10:38:03 pm »
Problem - I'm being fed up with one specific member of high staff and his ridiculously useless and/or non related posts in threads. Why am I fed up with him and his actions is because he himself warns and punishes people for talking trash or simply spamming yet he does basically the same thing however he is a part of the staff team and the person warned is simply a member of the community.

I know there is a report section but I didn't want to make so much fuss about it however if you want to improve few things then why not mention it here :)


Solution - Have a word with the guy if he doesn't improve kick him out as it really tiring to look at the posts he makes everyday. Make sure that other lads in the team follow as I've seen others do it as well.

Thanks :)
« Last Edit: January 20, 2014, 01:06:49 pm by förlora dig själv »

Offline Razzi

Re: If you could improve 1 thing in Ambrosia what would it be?
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2014, 10:51:57 pm »
I'm being fed up with one specific member of high staff and his ridiculously useless and/or non related posts in threads. Why am I fed up with him and his actions is because he himself warns and punishes people for talking trash or simply spamming yet he does basically the same thing however he is a part of the staff team and the person warned is simply a member of the community.

I know there is a report section but I didn't want to make so much fuss about it however if you want to improve few things then why not mention it here :)

Solution? Have a word with the guy if he doesn't improve kick him out as it really tiring to look at the posts he makes everyday. Make sure that other lads in the team follow as I've seen others do it as well.

Thanks :)

+1

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Re: If you could improve 1 thing in Ambrosia what would it be?
« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2014, 10:59:52 pm »
If an Highstaff warns somone for doing something like: Insulting/Spamming/Going Off topic.

They should at least NOT do the same thing. As it's ridiculous.
Rest is fine.

Also good explained by dominic.
+1 .. i think that's not fair when anyone of hs warn a member .. then do the same thing he warned member of it .. as Dominic Said : everyone should be treated equal..
and i think there are no differences between people .. we are humans .. Really we need such a posts .
Thanks rawr for giving us a chance .. to explain our statement ..

Mesoo :)

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Re: If you could improve 1 thing in Ambrosia what would it be?
« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2014, 11:06:14 pm »
I'm being fed up with one specific member of high staff and his ridiculously useless and/or non related posts in threads. Why am I fed up with him and his actions is because he himself warns and punishes people for talking trash or simply spamming yet he does basically the same thing however he is a part of the staff team and the person warned is simply a member of the community.

I know there is a report section but I didn't want to make so much fuss about it however if you want to improve few things then why not mention it here :)

Solution? Have a word with the guy if he doesn't improve kick him out as it really tiring to look at the posts he makes everyday. Make sure that other lads in the team follow as I've seen others do it as well.

Thanks :)

FMs are not highstaff :)

But I understand what you mean.
« Last Edit: January 19, 2014, 11:11:06 pm by Card Clasher »


Offline Ultor

Re: If you could improve 1 thing in Ambrosia what would it be?
« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2014, 11:18:19 pm »
It is extremely important to create a process that provides clear analysis of a person when promoted to admin and higher ranks. When I say process, I refer to every side of the criteria required. For instance, when accepting a new admin, you should normally have a secretive position that is unknown to the public, having him monitoring the the person when treating people. 

Obviously, I do know that you have some sort of a 'system' that allows you to collect those data, but I don't think its that effective. This is due to my observation of the recent/old promotions which kind of affected the 'admin service efficiency'. With that being said, those observers (if this idea goes real) need to be extremely talented and educated; they should be able to reveal the true image of a person. Although this seem to be impossible, but you might just pick the perfect person, and ofcourse, there has to be atleast 1 in every server- specialty is important.

If you wondering why would we need such a strict process, it is because of the fact that it was greatly increase the chances of having the perfect staff. Ultimately, we will see long-term effects such as the number of reports being reduced, massively and that would make Ambrosia, the perfect gaming community. However, an admin re-check process is really essential if this were to take place.
« Last Edit: January 20, 2014, 12:35:55 pm by Ultor »

Offline tajski

Re: If you could improve 1 thing in Ambrosia what would it be?
« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2014, 11:21:46 pm »
I'm being fed up with one specific member of high staff and his ridiculously useless and/or non related posts in threads. Why am I fed up with him and his actions is because he himself warns and punishes people for talking trash or simply spamming yet he does basically the same thing however he is a part of the staff team and the person warned is simply a member of the community.

I know there is a report section but I didn't want to make so much fuss about it however if you want to improve few things then why not mention it here :)

Solution? Have a word with the guy if he doesn't improve kick him out as it really tiring to look at the posts he makes everyday. Make sure that other lads in the team follow as I've seen others do it as well.

Thanks :)

FMs are not highstaff :)

But I understand what you mean.

How do you know I'm not talking about you?

Offline 'PL'

Re: If you could improve 1 thing in Ambrosia what would it be?
« Reply #15 on: January 20, 2014, 12:12:39 am »
Right, I'm not really gonna give such a radical suggestion, but reinforce or weaken some suggestions, and possibly might appear that I'm repeating the suggestions so I apologize in advance.. I hope it's not a waste of your time if you invest more time into understanding my thoughts from my 3.5 years experience.


I always have been seeing quite extraordinary behavior cycles from ambrosia members in their community timespan. I do understand that higher ranks asks for higher obligations and the unconscious consequence of bigger ego for respect and loyalty. It can be argued that it's part of their gradual adaptation under new circumstances, but it's obviously the first step into generating the possibility of the backstab effect. To Elaborate how this effect works let's go back at 2011-2012, and remind ourselves at the dark time of ambrosia when mostly every member had "dirt" on somebody else for something he did wrong. This is because of the spark which tasha and sammi created with their daily reports against players and admins. Meaning that they somehow acquired a "special voice" in ambrosia following many members to somehow represent it by using that emergency blackmail. So I would like to ask the staff in ambrosia to forbid the validity of any acoustic and optical misconduct older then 15 days.Recently I have talked with numerable highstaff about this and they seem to allow this. Recalling that in the past, when jf reported arne for some "admin abuse" ezza immediately responded with forbidding blackmail(yes keeping really old evidence to prove somebody has misbehaved was claimed terminologically "blackmail") . Sadly this forum doesn't have the archives of those "Really" important posts meaning I cannot Prove it that it really happened. It's just parts and segments of my memory. I'm sorry if the previous information is wrong or misleading, but that's how I remember it.

Ultor has a decent point about appointing psychiatrists(or people with some degree in psychology) to people who are moving higher on the rank list. I think is a great idea to see how is their development proceeding over the time and report any problems and issues to the emperors so they can prevent it in time. It should never happen that a promotion like a head admin can somehow bypass the ambrosia emperor filters and freely create misconduct and mayhem in the forum/server until is too late and spotted. And those(psychiatrists) people appointed for such a position should not in the most threatening situation reveal their true nature.

The only exception that applied for a highstaff that had the biggest freedom was arne in my eyes. He had such a trait that allowed him to be seen as a normal player and his mistakes always under the disguise of great humor. He was the mediary between any ambrosian member and the highstaff. (Something like rawrplus now). If a highstaff does not have that trait, he should not risk to freely treat lower-ranked members in what ways he like. It's a general attempt to mimic his(arne's) way of management and I have never seen somebody close to his style(not yet, for sure). There has been a lot of examples where 2 highstaffs could talk something quite unknown to the normal members and not relevant to the topic but when 2 members go offtopic, then the highstaff will certainly highlight them for moderation or warn them. As many people before said, a highstaff should be an example from his head to his feet. That's how any low-ranked members in any community can see examples and try to orientate to them thinking for their future in the community.

Thank you for reading.
« Last Edit: January 20, 2014, 12:16:34 am by *PL* »

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Re: If you could improve 1 thing in Ambrosia what would it be?
« Reply #16 on: January 20, 2014, 04:21:55 am »
I'm being fed up with one specific member of high staff and his ridiculously useless and/or non related posts in threads. Why am I fed up with him and his actions is because he himself warns and punishes people for talking trash or simply spamming yet he does basically the same thing however he is a part of the staff team and the person warned is simply a member of the community.

I know there is a report section but I didn't want to make so much fuss about it however if you want to improve few things then why not mention it here :)

Solution? Have a word with the guy if he doesn't improve kick him out as it really tiring to look at the posts he makes everyday. Make sure that other lads in the team follow as I've seen others do it as well.

Thanks :)

FMs are not highstaff :)

But I understand what you mean.

How do you know I'm not talking about you?
lol

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Re: If you could improve 1 thing in Ambrosia what would it be?
« Reply #17 on: January 20, 2014, 05:22:26 am »
I'm being fed up with one specific member of high staff and his ridiculously useless and/or non related posts in threads. Why am I fed up with him and his actions is because he himself warns and punishes people for talking trash or simply spamming yet he does basically the same thing however he is a part of the staff team and the person warned is simply a member of the community.

I know there is a report section but I didn't want to make so much fuss about it however if you want to improve few things then why not mention it here :)

Solution? Have a word with the guy if he doesn't improve kick him out as it really tiring to look at the posts he makes everyday. Make sure that other lads in the team follow as I've seen others do it as well.

Thanks :)

FMs are not highstaff :)

But I understand what you mean.

How do you know I'm not talking about you?

I keep my eyes on my posts so I'm pretty positive :)


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Re: If you could improve 1 thing in Ambrosia what would it be?
« Reply #18 on: January 20, 2014, 10:36:55 am »
If you could improve 1 thing in Ambrosia what would it be?

1- i love playing little and fast maps , like aim maps, awp maps etc... fast funny and always full in some servers, generally 16 ( max) players so if Ambrosia add it, it will be a lot of fun, but it is just an opinion (dont attack me lol)  :)

there is other things , ill add them later
« Last Edit: January 20, 2014, 10:39:13 am by X-KilleR »

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Re: If you could improve 1 thing in Ambrosia what would it be?
« Reply #19 on: January 20, 2014, 10:49:22 am »
Everyone should be treated equal. Just because you're admin doesn't mean you can treat everyone else like shit, same with HA, UC, etc..

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