Spec Suggestion

[Fisu]

Hey Guys

I saw tony and Rubix saying something indirect about the amx_spectate, while they could of just suggest it normally so HS takes it serious. As I love it and I don't always wanna change my name to spec a haxor who knows that I'm an admin I htink we should add that

amx_spectate thing. I must be honest I don't know where to find that, but Surf server has that ( I guess ) And it's very usefull, hackers get cought so easy.


Opinions?

[Ray]

I would love to Support this.
It's really useful ..
Because when we go spec .. a lot of times hackers become suddenly "Noobs" and can't even walk ..
They start looking at the skies and shooting randomly
Specially after a person calls them hackers.


Support.

[SilverQuick]

Of course this is good and useful for admins, support !

[Burzum]

Hey Guys

I saw tony and Rubix saying something indirect about the amx_spectate, while they could of just suggest it normally so HS takes it serious. As I love it and I don't always wanna change my name to spec a haxor who knows that I'm an admin I htink we should add that

amx_spectate thing. I must be honest I don't know where to find that, but Surf server has that ( I guess ) And it's very usefull, hackers get cought so easy.


Opinions?

can u explain how it works ?¿

also: u can rush as crazy for die fast and spec, or u can choose team but not model, so u will be dead every round, but not in spec slot

[Ray]

Hey Guys

I saw tony and Rubix saying something indirect about the amx_spectate, while they could of just suggest it normally so HS takes it serious. As I love it and I don't always wanna change my name to spec a haxor who knows that I'm an admin I htink we should add that

amx_spectate thing. I must be honest I don't know where to find that, but Surf server has that ( I guess ) And it's very usefull, hackers get cought so easy.


Opinions?

can u explain how it works ?¿

also: u can rush as crazy for die fast and spec, or u can choose team but not model, so u will be dead every round, but not in spec slot

Instead of pressing m6 ..
you type in console amx_spectate
if you open console ... it shows you are in ct/t team dead (not in spec) but you are spec.

[thEnd]

You can be in a team and spec without using any plugins.
Also the best way is and always will be "ninja spec" .
No need for more plugins as the old crushing source is showed in the past just one - less plugins less trouble. 

[DonTodo #]

You can be in a team and spec without using any plugins.
Also the best way is and always will be "ninja spec" .
No need for more plugins as the old crushing source is showed in the past just one - less plugins less trouble.

I totaly agree with thEnd.
Ninja speccing is the best way to do it.
For people who dont even know what ninja speccing is:
It is just rush to dead but not to obvious and spec.

[terraboN]

Would still be nice to have this implemented.

[Burzum]

You can be in a team and spec without using any plugins.
Also the best way is and always will be "ninja spec" .
No need for more plugins as the old crushing source is showed in the past just one - less plugins less trouble.

I totaly agree with thEnd.
Ninja speccing is the best way to do it.
For people who dont even know what ninja speccing is:
It is just rush to dead but not to obvious and spec.

also: u can rush as crazy for die fast and spec, or u can choose team but not model, so u will be dead every round, but not in spec slot

 

[thEnd]

We are here to say that plugin is useless

[terraboN]

Not entirely useless, a pretty smart plugin. If you kept dying due to idiotic rushes, EVERY ROUND, just to record a cheater, nah... amx_spectate in console is much easier and would easily provide better footage of the cheater and not just footage of the recorder dying.

[thEnd]

Not entirely useless, a pretty smart plugin. If you kept dying due to idiotic rushes, EVERY ROUND, just to record a cheater, nah... amx_spectate in console is much easier and would easily provide better footage of the cheater and not just footage of the recorder dying.

You can do it by not choosing a model   

[TeeKaaY]

No need for more plugins as the old crushing source is showed in the past just one - less plugins less trouble. 

I don't want to be rude here, but please don't say such idiotic comments. That plugin has been used on so many servers and no problems where detected. Plus the fact that this plugin was made by a very experienced coder, he actually approves plugins on the alliedmods forums. So no nothing is wrong with it.

Plus if you isntall the Orpheu version https://forums.alliedmods.net/showpost.php?p=2042811&postcount=75 then the admins will not show up on the scoreboard at all, not even in a team nor in spectator, it's like they are not on the server. Pretty nifty eh?

No it's not useless. When you use amx_spectate, you will be shown as ALIVE not dead in the spectator. So the hacker will think that you are alive and not spectator. Get it now?

[thEnd]

it shows you are in ct/t team dead (not in spec) but you are spec.

I can read well. Can you?
I got it since fisu wrote a first letter in this topic.

Plugin does show you alive? And what happens in the end of round?
If it shows you alive kill info would be seen that no one kills you.
Also K:D. Does plugin change your K:D?
If not there is kinda useless to have anything that you can achieve by not choosing a model.

Idiotic can be just hundreds of shitty plugins used in many shitty servers.
If I'm saying less plugins less trouble I meant it as from the past we had many of them and always we became to this "idiotic" conclusion so better dig up what plugins we had on the classic servers before bring to defence another alliedmod plugin. Servers has nothing to do with alliedmod. Players and admins do.

[TeeKaaY]

Alright then let me explain this a little better, since a lot of people don't have a clue of what this plugin does.

Normal Version: When you type amx_spectate, you will be transferred to the specator team, but you will still be shown as alive (ray is drunk and stupid, don't listen to him). Now after that 50% of your teammates have died (percentage configurable by cvar), then at the moment you will be shown as dead again in the scoreboard. Next round, same shit happens.

Orpheu Version: When you type amx_spectate, you will not appear in the scoreboard at all, not even in any team. I think that's the way it works judging from the thread's comments, however I have not tested the orpheu version yet.

[thEnd]

2nd is fine.

Just let you know average good lvl player looks tab 10+ times during the 2min round. Looks the kill info tab almost all the time. So if there is "known" admin, using a simple amx plugin, would be picked up easy as no kills info during the mysterious death.

Does orpheu version hides player from a steam current players window?

[TeeKaaY]

I have not tested it so I cannot answer that question. Testing it would give you the answer. Plus SMART admins would not use their real nicknames, and as the dev said, it would be harder to guess who died and how if there are lots of players on the server.

[thEnd]

Smart admins also would change their steam to private and change a steam name and avatar during an undercover mission for a tough guys.
As the current and recent player list is the playground for the smart cheaters.

But sure orpheu seems fine.

[TeeKaaY]

O.o everytime you wanna spec somebody that is good you need to change avatar, change name, and change it to private. Seems like an overkill isn't? I don't understand so many people that do not want to make their lifes easier by installing a simple plugin...

[Fisu]

For the guys who say:

Why this? Ninja spec works too.


Why do we use the new mod in JB where Steam can hear non steam? While we can take the old one, and make everyone use non steam.

It's much easier with this plugin, we will shown as alive, hackers won't notice that we're specing them.