[UNBANNED][CS] Unban Request fReideN

[fReideN]

Name: fReideN
SteamID:STEAM_0:0:34262660
Reason:Insulting/racism/gun abuse
Date & Time: DECEMBER 28, 2013  20:10 GMT
Admin: Prototype
Server: Jailbreak
Have you been banned before: Yes
Other: Well today me and Google were making fun of each other as we always do for fun. prototype was in the server and he saw me making fun of Google but instead of warning him i was the one to get warned so i decided to stop.  Google was not given any warnings. Then prototype started bringing up more incidents for example yesterday i managed to shoot one of the gun "spawns" at the last second so i managed to gun abuse. I apologized to m-16, and he said it was okay, prototype quit me but i'm okay with that since i didn't know.

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[Kasabiii]

i think it was a miss understanding , i hope you give this guy a chance , you shouldnt ban him perm if you ask me , just talk to him

P.s : this guy is da best :c unban him :c

[bucK]

i think it was a miss understanding , i hope you give this guy a chance , you shouldnt ban him perm if you ask me , just talk to him

P.s : this guy is da best :c unban him :c

this + ik freiden a long time ago he knows rules good and never break them that's why i support him to be unbanned

[BuddyTrollsten]

He doesn't deserve a perm ban , he is a good person and I know he won't do this again ever again.
And they were having fun like they ALWAYS do .
I think a 2 days ban would be more than enough!

[Ray]

Can you explain what you mean by "making fun of each other" ?

[fReideN]

Can you explain what you mean by "making fun of each other" ?

hmm well i called him a retard he called me one back he called me a noob english man i called a german then we just started calling each other noobs btw we didnt find any of this offensive

[Ray]

Can you explain what you mean by "making fun of each other" ?

hmm well i called him a retard he called me one back he called me a noob english man i called a german then we just started calling each other noobs btw we didnt find any of this offensive

Was this necessary to be done on the server ?

[fReideN]

Can you explain what you mean by "making fun of each other" ?

hmm well i called him a retard he called me one back he called me a noob english man i called a german then we just started calling each other noobs btw we didnt find any of this offensive

Was this necessary to be done on the server ?

   
It wasn't really necessary but we were just having fun, thats what the jb server is for anyway..We didn't get offended so i dont see the problem, everybody jokes around in jb server in their own ways

[Duke Devlin]

proto lets emotion take controll of his ban behavior... best admin evur!
permanent is too harsh for this ice cream

[fReideN]

Well i do agree with most of the things you've said. But can i ask you why you didnt warn google about anything or why you dont warn anybody else abt insulting when they are in the server? From my point of view you have something against me and would love  to see me banned. + about the racism thing, many people used to call each other indians but nobody got banned, why? wouldnt the indian people get offended, we just done it as a joke.. i didnt mean to offend any german people , tbh i dont even think they would even get offended.. Insulting? Insulting is when another guy gets insulted but that wasnt the case here, i did use words which looked "indecent" but even google knew i done it for a laugh.. + the thing with pinky is sorted out by RONI.

[Ray]

Well i do agree with most of the things you've said. But can i ask you why you didnt warn google about anything or why you dont warn anybody else abt insulting when they are in the server? From my point of view you have something against me and would love  to see me banned. + about the racism thing, many people used to call each other indians but nobody got banned, why? wouldnt the indian people get offended, we just done it as a joke.. i didnt mean to offend any german people , tbh i dont even think they would even get offended.. Insulting? Insulting is when another guy gets insulted but that wasnt the case here, i did use words which looked "indecent" but even google knew i done it for a laugh.. + the thing with pinky is sorted out by RONI.

Excuse you ? No one banned ? http://www.ambrosia-servers.eu/community/index.php?topic=23122.0
eLement is still banned at this moment for that.

[fReideN]

Well i do agree with most of the things you've said. But can i ask you why you didnt warn google about anything or why you dont warn anybody else abt insulting when they are in the server? From my point of view you have something against me and would love  to see me banned. + about the racism thing, many people used to call each other indians but nobody got banned, why? wouldnt the indian people get offended, we just done it as a joke.. i didnt mean to offend any german people , tbh i dont even think they would even get offended.. Insulting? Insulting is when another guy gets insulted but that wasnt the case here, i did use words which looked "indecent" but even google knew i done it for a laugh.. + the thing with pinky is sorted out by RONI.

Excuse you ? No one banned ? http://www.ambrosia-servers.eu/community/index.php?topic=23122.0
eLement is still banned at this moment for that.

ive seen many people use racist remarks in the server while admins are present but they didnt seem to get banned , they also took it as a joke.. in that report, well somebody did report it, but that was probably a one off anyway lol, this is the first time ive seen someone get banned for using those remarks..most active jb players would know anyway

[fReideN]

As i said, that was the first guy i saw getting banned for using the remark "indian". Now abt google you clearly saw him and heared calling me a retarded english man ETC. others players saw this aswell like "Harlem Shake" and he even said to google that hes english aswell but you decided not to do anything to him i didnt even see a single warning for him. But instead you decided to just put everything on me by bringing up incidents which have already been sorted such as the "pinky" incident which RONI sorted out 

[♥Pinky~GirliciousKitten♥]

You're never changing your behavior from the past year freiden
and wait a sec if someone said something about you in a racist way wouldn't u get offended?
You should know that there are other players playing in the server and u need to respect them all and behave as the rules says.

[fReideN]

You're never changing your behavior from the past year freiden
and wait a sec if someone said something about you in a racist way wouldn't u get offended?
You should know that there are other players playing in the server and u need to respect them all and behave as the rules says.

 Just like i said me and google were joking around like we always do if he found it offensive i would stop and same likewise.
 If u respect me then i respect you thats just my Logic of things

[Google Inc.]

OK guys allow me to go through this thingy over here, I never play cs with freiden without fighting eachothers xD its something like, because we're friends, We're doing that for a long time, Its actually not the first time i do this and he does that!

The point is, If you wanna deal with the people using the rule that says : "No Swear/Insult/Flame", Then you better permban 90% of the players right there.. Because everybody doing it, The point is, Some admins take actions about it and some admins gives 0 potatos! and some of the admins (Without mention names) are doing it as well!.

For all high staff here, Who care about JB.. Everybody responsible about it, You better take action on this rule :

• Restrict it completely = Ban 80% of the player who will not listen to it as usual. Or,
• Make it allowed = Which means the server gonna be like hell

And 1 more point, Because some people keep joking with eachothers using them, I suggest for you guys to make it like, if the other player complained, then the guy whos swearing should be warned and/or permbanned.

I shouldnt go that further.. But guys i still feel like, Proto banned him cuz the rules doesnt allow that, and Freiden was just joking and he doesnt deserve it.

So you better make a good Rule, And yea i will ask for another chance for freiden, He's an old player, Hes respectful and joyful...

[Fisu]

Well if he gets warned for this I should too and many others too. I call ray alsow: Little cunt. They also call me a fish, which is in some kind a way a insult but only good friends say it and I laugh with them, but if others say it I tell them to stop as I don't know them.

But for what Prototype banned you I must say he got some good points there. If an Admin asks me to stop doing it I will, till now it didn't happen, so I can continue as long as they see I'm doing it between the lines. He clearly quited you and this should be an information for you to stop doing it.

Well anyway I support for a unban as I know how u play and JB is fun with you.

[Koray]

You're never changing your behavior from the past year freiden
and wait a sec if someone said something about you in a racist way wouldn't u get offended?
You should know that there are other players playing in the server and u need to respect them all and behave as the rules says.

 Just like i said me and google were joking around like we always do if he found it offensive i would stop and same likewise.
 If u respect me then i respect you thats just my Logic of things

Alright now im exploading,

1 If you dont if someone is a male/female gamer you should't talk before knowing thinga about someone.
2 We all know that Pinky is a female gamer and you know that aswell and you insulted her and telling her she ias a boy trough your mic.
3 Your attidute was and ia still bad, if it doeant change soon they have to temp ban you for atleast a good  or 2 since.you was banned already.
4 Insulting is against the rules, if someone doesn't like it you should stop immediatly in that case you didnt or you could atleast say sorry to her.
5 Dont talk shit withour knowing who is what.

Freiden i really like you as a friend but going against the rules will set a line at my limits stay banned for a month or so.

(typing on phone can have some bad grammar)

['PL']

Google said that both of them were kidding around and doing stuff only associating with themselves. Is unnatural someone to meddle in other people's conversations  According to the overall reason of him getting banned is ridiculous in my book(you might persecute him for that gun abuse, and if it was an accident and there are no psychological signs of intention then you gotta let him go). Accidents happen, and in places like jailbreak you will always have some corny situations that are clearly against the rules. But I wasn't there so I Don't KNOW!

Here is the list:
Past = 0 negative points(One's Past can only influence a decision(by server admin) when it was done recently or it's repeating indirectly or directly).
GunMenu abuse = 3 negative points (ban for a day-week)
Selftransfering and pinky-freiden argument = solved by head admin

Actually, I would be interested if you locate this type of behavior(from frei) somewhere else than with pinky. Most of your counterarguments against him were taken from yesterdays incident which is archived as resolved.

I tried to make things simple, and not write a big essay, hope is appreciated.

P.S: I didn't really invest that much time and brains to read this, so prototype might find it offensive, would like to apologize