[UNBANNED] This is ridiculous.

[eLeMenT]

Name: eLeMenT

SteamID: STEAM_0:0:997116337

Reason: "Wallhacking"

Date & Time: 14.12.2013 - 16:22:58

Admin: r3Tr #raiNB (r3Tr)

Server: De_Dust2 server

Have you been banned before: Yes, 9 days ago to be precise.

Can someone PLEASE inform your admins that I DON'T wallhack? I told myself I would record a demo every single time I played but apparently I've been slacking, the admin needs to post a demo about me "wallhacking". I enjoy playing on the servers because of familiar friendly faces and because even though I have 130 ping, I can actually spray my gun when I need to and it wouldn't give me model lag. This is getting ridiculous and now I have to wait again to get unbanned.

Old topic - http://www.ambrosia-servers.com/community/index.php?topic=22787.0

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[r3Tr]

https://www.mediafire.com/?44e42e37t6oennn

[eLeMenT]

https://www.mediafire.com/?44e42e37t6oennn

Thank you for putting it up. I just watched it and I still don't know how you came to the conclusion that there is something fishy in what I'm doing. I've basically used my teammates as 'bait' the entire time to know where to look.

[Fisu]

Screenshot is clean, so I guess we have the proof that hes clean?

[Timmer|Lv]

After watching the demo , the start was abit wierd where he kinda traced true smoke the two guys but later on in the demo i cant see any scanning at the wall that is really supicious maybe some pre aiming at long but thats common since any ordinary player should know that every round someone is rushing there .

[Lagger]

Screenshot is clean, so I guess we have the proof that hes clean?

A hack is a KEY which can be turned on/off, you can't judge him only because of the screen shot.

On topic: The start is really suspicious when he was shooting on his 2 enemies @B, for the rest I see nothing.

[Fisu]

Screenshot is clean, so I guess we have the proof that hes clean?

A hack is a KEY which can be turned on/off, you can't judge him only because of the screen shot.

On topic: The start is really suspicious when he was shooting on his 2 enemies @B, for the rest I see nothing.

The screenshot has been made Automaticly by the ban. WHich means he actually didnt know of getting banned.

[яᴇɢᴀʟᴛᴇʀʀᴏʀ~]

Screenshot is clean, so I guess we have the proof that hes clean?

A hack is a KEY which can be turned on/off, you can't judge him only because of the screen shot.

On topic: The start is really suspicious when he was shooting on his 2 enemies @B, for the rest I see nothing.

The screenshot has been made Automaticly by the ban. WHich means he actually didnt know of getting banned.

Some hacks have auto screenshot cleaner, which means the cheat (wh) won't show in the screenshot.

[Fisu]

OP hacks these days.

Alright watched the demo too. Weird preaiming at long I noticed from whole demo. But Tbh, I get often killed from the other side as they preshoot always there.

Demo is clean from my side.

[eLeMenT]

Ok, I'll explain my train of thought while playing, though I thought the demo spoke for itself.

After watching the demo , the start was abit wierd where he kinda traced true smoke the two guys but later on in the demo i cant see any scanning at the wall that is really supicious maybe some pre aiming at long but thats common since any ordinary player should know that every round someone is rushing there .

B - I took a random shot when I went there, threw a few grenades coz they've been camping there all game. As soon as I heard my teammate shoot his AK i tried to shoot the guy that was on him but he was already dead. Then he got shot by a guy with an awp, which I clearly saw. Since I didn't have a gun I tried to pick up one from the ground while aiming in the sniper's direction but I got shot from my right. Theoretically, if I was using a wallhack I would probably know he was there and instead of having tunnel vision on the sniper I would've probably hid from his sight while aiming to my right.

Long - Of course I'm gonna preaim when I go out of our little tunnel, like where else am I supposed to aim? I saw a flash coming and it was on the floor, which suggested to me that the guy was close to me and just aimed at the floor so the grenade stops. So I estimated when he would come out and I got lucky with a headshot somehow while moving and spraying.

Some hacks have auto screenshot cleaner, which means the cheat (wh) won't show in the screenshot.

I previously had no idea AMXBans took screenshots when you were banned. In my previous ban, there were two people sticking out of the door in de_dust2 and I could only see part of them. Though I have no other proof, this seems to be the most logical argument I have to counter what is being said about the auto screenshot cleaner.

[Timmer|Lv]

after re-watching the demo i see no signs of wallhack , to be more specific the demo is weak in my opinion .

conclusion = clean .

[Deathknife]

Have you been banned before: Yes, 9 days ago to be precise.

If you want to be precise you should post the actual date & time, that's not precise lol.

[Jay]

There are a couple of situations that are suspicious. Neither of them include smoke. The most interesting situations are his preaim at a CT close to the DD at mid as he's running up high A. And the awper at long towards the end of the demo. After you kill him with a headshot and started reloading you knew there was another CT about to turn the corner, so you jumped to avoid being spotted. Then there's the CT you shot through the corner of the wall who was attempting to pick up the dead CT's awp.

That was clear wallhack, in my opinion.

Edit: After reviewing the demo more-over, the CT you shot at mid double doors - You did not see him, as I watched that situation in 1/4th speed two or three times. You were preaiming at him before you even saw him, and before he even fired.

[Fisu]

After Jays Reply I rewatched it again twice. (Could you tell me how to make that demo slow as u do? )

Since in the normal speed that kill in mid looks normal to me. What really is weird is that shooting in long. The guy didnt rly show up, and you shoot to the place "he would go" as he was runing to it stopped and went back. You did kill him, but you preshoted first. It might be sound tho, but I didnt hear him from all the nades.

I'd like to watch the demo in slow speed, how do I do that? xD

[eLeMenT]

There are a couple of situations that are suspicious. Neither of them include smoke.

The most interesting situations are his preaim at a CT close to the DD at mid as he's running up high A.

My teammate was already shooting there but I'm not clear what instance you're talking about.

And the awper at long towards the end of the demo. After you kill him with a headshot and started reloading you knew there was another CT about to turn the corner, so you jumped to avoid being spotted. Then there's the CT you shot through the corner of the wall who was attempting to pick up the dead CT's awp.

Long - Of course I'm gonna preaim when I go out of our little tunnel, like where else am I supposed to aim? I saw a flash coming and it was on the floor, which suggested to me that the guy was close to me and just aimed at the floor so the grenade stops. So I estimated when he would come out and I got lucky with a headshot somehow while moving and spraying.

As I explained, this was a lucky shot and it's natural for people to preaim in that direction.
Edit: I did look at the lucky shot a couple of times and yes it does look very suspicious but idk what to say to that.

Edit: After reviewing the demo more-over, the CT you shot at mid double doors - You did not see him, as I watched that situation in 1/4th speed two or three times. You were preaiming at him before you even saw him, and before he even fired.

Even though I shot him through a body, you were looking at the wrong time. You can see him on two instances and I was following him before I killed him the way I did.

[r3Tr]

Fisu, use viewdemo command.

[Spaff]

pretty clean demo

[X-KilleR]

i saw the demo twice ,imho just a random player, nothing sucpicious
for me he is clean

[Fisu]

Alright. I watched the demo in low speed. And that part "Jay" do you mean the part he is short, then CT jumps down and he shoots him while he couldent know he jumped down?

His teammate was already shooting his AK there I would of done the same.

Other looks clean.

(had like 15 min till I managed to viewdemo his demo xD)