[UNBANNED] scripting - sect0r - ban appeal

[sctR]

Name: --
SteamID: STEAM_0:0:2131311115
Reason: scripting lol
Date & Time: 10 minutes ago
Admin: FISU
Server: public
Have you been banned before: umm, i think not
Other: first i get reported by head admin burzum for scripting, now i get banned by another admin for scripting, seriously, whos next? its called stand up ground strafing ffs, sgs, and i don't need a script to gain high speed
ss: http://www.mediafire.com/view/myfiles/#y2uvbnvier5j4is

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[Fisu]

Hey Mate!

Sorry if it's a misunderstanding. I should of take you serious when you said you've got reported about this.

Anyway: http://www.mediafire.com/download/r9ck0iq9iph8yoi/-----.dem

Thats the demo of you.

I just couldent belive, that this is possible without having a script/mod. You are to fast with that, I was sure that it's a mod or something that gives you advantage against other players.

At least you could of say no when I asked you if you use scripts. You clearly said yes twice, but u were joking with that.

Anyway, that is just OP

[sctR]

umm, hi as i said its called stand up gstrafing, i did not use a script or mod or hack or ANYTHING, just the knife model, maybe that gives me an advantage. Yes i was joking, but i don't think my comment/joke should really influence on your decision to ban me.

[Ray]

umm, hi as i said its called stand up gstrafing, i did not use a script or mod or hack or ANYTHING, just the knife model, maybe that gives me an advantage. Yes i was joking, but i don't think my comment/joke should really influence on your decision to ban me.

It does.
You're admitting cheating and he may ban you as soon as you say "yes"
It's your fault mate ... Why did you joke with an admin ? You should know his question was serious and you should take it seriously.
Shouldn't you face the consequences of your actions ?

[Fisu]

umm, hi as i said its called stand up gstrafing, i did not use a script or mod or hack or ANYTHING, just the knife model, maybe that gives me an advantage. Yes i was joking, but i don't think my comment/joke should really influence on your decision to ban me.

I told you clearly: "I ain't joking"

Answer of yours is: "Me neither"

Might be just me but I did belive you. It's even in my rights to belive what you say. Other hand I recorded demo of you, which I thought you are using a script.

What knife model do you mean?

[sctR]

umm, hi as i said its called stand up gstrafing, i did not use a script or mod or hack or ANYTHING, just the knife model, maybe that gives me an advantage. Yes i was joking, but i don't think my comment/joke should really influence on your decision to ban me.

It does.
You're admitting cheating and he may ban you as soon as you say "yes"
It's your fault mate ... Why did you joke with an admin ? You should know his question was serious and you should take it seriously.
Shouldn't you face the consequences of your actions ?

ooh, well, so if i say im using aimbot, means an admin should ban me instantly? damn, face the consequences ? you mean that i should stay banned altho i didn't script?

[Fisu]

umm, hi as i said its called stand up gstrafing, i did not use a script or mod or hack or ANYTHING, just the knife model, maybe that gives me an advantage. Yes i was joking, but i don't think my comment/joke should really influence on your decision to ban me.

It does.
You're admitting cheating and he may ban you as soon as you say "yes"
It's your fault mate ... Why did you joke with an admin ? You should know his question was serious and you should take it seriously.
Shouldn't you face the consequences of your actions ?

ooh, well, so if i say im using aimbot, means an admin should ban me instantly? damn, face the consequences ? you mean that i should stay banned altho i didn't script?

Not without a demo. or Idk, about this rule of admiting.

[Ray]

umm, hi as i said its called stand up gstrafing, i did not use a script or mod or hack or ANYTHING, just the knife model, maybe that gives me an advantage. Yes i was joking, but i don't think my comment/joke should really influence on your decision to ban me.

It does.
You're admitting cheating and he may ban you as soon as you say "yes"
It's your fault mate ... Why did you joke with an admin ? You should know his question was serious and you should take it seriously.
Shouldn't you face the consequences of your actions ?

ooh, well, so if i say im using aimbot, means an admin should ban me instantly? damn, face the consequences ? you mean that i should stay banned altho i didn't script?

Didn't you think what you would do after being banned ?
And yes .. if someone says im aimbotting and i have a demo of him suspecting aimbot ... yes he would be banned for admitting it aswell.
Same as you .. fisu has demo of you doing weird stuff ... you admitted scripting ... you get ban...
You said you're serious .. why weren't you ?

['PL']

Maybe sector wanted to soften up the situation without directly disregarding fisu's administrator duty. I mean, at the "moment of confrontation" sector approached quite friendly to the administrator using satirical intoned voice. This was done probably because sector had friendly retrospective with fisu and didn't wanted to speak or communicate in a formal manner. As I stated on some other ban appeal, he was manually tested 3x with (onyz's and partially mine method) which he couldn't react that fast to counter it.

His "yes-sayer temporary behavior" was intended to explain or signify what type of scripting he is being banned for(as he replied here) and for the behavior in the server can be rudely interpreted as mare joke or humor pun.

[Fisu]

I don't have anything against sector. I even have fun playing with him. But as ray said I saw him doing weird thing's (speed,hack,script,mod "Whatever") Wasnt 100 % Sure I asked him he said yes, while I told him it's forbidden in ambrosia (at least here he could see that Im really serious) but he kept agreeing with me so I thought he he just dont care about the rules.

+ When he said I got reported and I still aint banned I totally thought he got reported for scritps + they catched him, only he didnt got banned.

But since it wasnt scripting I'd like to know how is this stopable, as it clearly gives a big advantage against other players.

['PL']

But since it wasnt scripting I'd like to know how is this stopable, as it clearly gives a big advantage against other players.

It's stoppable(*), the player invested heavily on time on perfecting on his skills and now freely roams on the server legitimately. That's like saying professionals have bigger advantage over other players in a server. Counter strike 1.6 is not of those games where you will be matched with "preferably" equal skilled players. Pointing, this is not some moba game (or cs:go) where you have matchmaking system on a skill cap to prevent people from abusing skill-advantage over less-experienced players The competitive grade of doing these actions is considered underground so you cannot find a decent place to start unless you don't posses previous knowledge on how to do it.

[Fisu]

But since it wasnt scripting I'd like to know how is this stopable, as it clearly gives a big advantage against other players.

It's stoppable(*), the player invested heavily on time on perfecting on his skills and now freely roams on the server legitimately. That's like saying professionals have bigger advantage over other players in a server. Counter strike 1.6 is not of those games where you will be matched with "preferably" equal skilled players. Pointing, this is not some moba game (or cs:go) where you have matchmaking system on a skill cap to prevent people from abusing skill-advantage over less-experienced players The competitive grade of doing these actions is considered underground so you cannot find a decent place to start unless you don't posses previous knowledge on how to do it.

Thanks! Now I do understand a bit about this

[Fisu]

Sector, live with the fact that you told me yes you are using scripts. While this leaded to this ban. You could of say no cuz I asked you about 3 times you obviously saw that I aint joking.

You even provocated with "Still not enough proof to ban me?" "Common spec me I can show it to u"

Was pretty sure you're using scripts. Next time just be honest and stop joking when it gets to a ban desicion.

As I understand this is possible without scripts, I apologize for the ban.

But next time just say "no"

[Makiavel]

Let's be realistic, you don't ask a cheater or a scripter whether he cheats or not, only stupid ones would admit and even if they do , it  should be taken with a grain of salt.

Groundstrafing is known for getting you to absurd amount of speeds, especially combined with developer 1 and high fps (that is on the old version of the game, which I assume you're using. Different commands on the new version though). It's even easier while combined with a hyperscrolling mouse.

That being said, it's not really cheating or scripting but it does give you an unfair advantage although I'm not quite sure about Ambrosia's regulations as using the commands I mentionned earlier so it's up to you guys. One thing that is sure is that he's not scripting or cheating and he should in my opinion be unbanned.

[Ray]

I will take in consideration that you weren't scripting, but i will also take in consideration that you lied to an admin about cheating.

• Players must at all times must listen to commands and requests from Ambrosian Admins.

So if next time an admin asks you if you're cheating and you say yes, and he bans you, i will be the one denying your unban request.
Do not lie to admins when they are serious.

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