[Resolved] Regalterror & Mister #HS

[Makiavel]

Well, I was planning on sending a PM to Raven, but instead why not show the whole community how proud Ambrosia Admins are. Honestly, have some of your admins fell so low that they need to flame and threaten people/the community itself somewhere else? It's pathetic.
Admin: Mister #HS & Regalterror
Server: In another community
Date & Time: Tonight
Complaint: Racism, Threatening to DDOS & more.
Other Evidence (screenshots, demos...): Sure, wait a second.

PM I planned on sending to Raven.

Hello, I wondered whether something happens to your admins that insult & flame in other communities ? It's very interesting to see such an attitude from them that includes racism, immaturity & more when they're outside of Ambrosia and giving a bad view of your community for those that know about them.

The two users I'm talking about are Regalterror whose steamid is STEAM_0:0:62457520 (It's very important, the STEAMID is the same in the screens, just in case you didn't believe me) see : http://www.ambrosia-servers.com/community/index.php?topic=19010.0 aswell as Mister : STEAMID here : http://steamidconverter.com/76561198065785097 / STEAM_0:1:52759684

Screens are shown here:



--> Didn't know you resorted to advertising that way.
Damn, because being a script kiddie that uses a ddos program is insanely hard, no but really? Is that a joke?
Please, you're going to make me fall on the floor. Is growing your ego on the internet really feeling that good?
More threatening. Are they running out of things to say?
Very rich vocabulary, I applaud you sir.
More rich vocabulary *clap* *clap*

Sorry for the jokes, but midway, I started actually feeling sad for them aswell as a bit mad.

A player on Ambrosia sometimes & from another community.

[яᴇɢᴀʟᴛᴇʀʀᴏʀ~]

First of all hello there,

As this is my first report, I'll take it easy

All I gotta say is we were playing Speedrun duhh and this guy named "Blacksmith" came and started the racism calling us "*******" (Racism) he also swore at our family and us, We then replied in a such way, and an admin called "I'm not a member" comes and kicks us for "Harassment", at first why didn't the admin kick the other guy called "blacksmit" ??, second of all after all the fuss I got a kick for the second time for no reason (MADE ME REALLY RAGE U KNW). Third i joined back and the admin kicks again.. !! Joined again and bam banned ..

That server needs to get better admins or its a bloody fail, me and mister were just playing normal until a guy shoves his nose in our conversation. Let me tell you one thing we never started the racism, I'm not that kind of person tbh, It's only when some1 starts then I start.

Anyway gotta go sleep now,

Peace #

[Makiavel]

Oh please, you're going to take it easy when you threatened to DDOS another community's member for doing his job and kicking/banning you for racism aswell as threatening to take down the servers ? Do you ever think about what you're doing first ?!

You HAVE ADVERTISED FOR Ambrosia, using HEAVY racism attacks and threatened a community and even a member that just did his job of DDOSING , then blamed it on someone that appears to be inexistant and whose proof doesn't exist ? If it even did exist, WHY did you never think of reporting it instead of retaliating ?! Is that how you have been taught to be an admin here ? By insulting people that have "apparently" insulted you ? In all those screenshots, the only two we see harassing is you & your little friend Mister.

And I know very well Mister has once been kicked from Ambrosia's admin team due to Immature behaviour aswell as not following the rules (see here : http://www.ambrosia-servers.com/community/index.php?topic=11656.0 ) So don't kid me by trying to give yourself excuses for your actions because you have no excuses at all for what you did tonight.

You're not that kind of person ? Well the screenshots just show your point, it's true that you're not that kind of person! If you didn't notice, that was sarcasm.

Edit : Also, do you have any proof of what you're saying? Because I do have tons of proof about you, but the only thing you have here is your own word which I think isn't worth much seeing how you acted tonight.

[taha]

Whoa , all I can say is : this is pretty massive , some solid proofs of your misbehaviour guys , I can't see you getting of the hook this time !
Still why would you threaten a fellow community to take down their servers ? This still needs explanation from both mister and regal !

[DonJowy]

I never expected that from both of you.
Somewhere in a topic talking about admins , there's a phrase that says admins must be respectful as they are the staff of ambrosia and represent it ( something like that )
Thats so much
Regal , you could go and report without being racist and start swearing

[Weed Farmerr]

1. No insulting, flaming or treating players with disrespect.
You are not allowed to insult or disrespect a player or a group of players personally. Do not disrespect players or flame them with offensive words. No such expressions as "fu*k you" or "you suck". If main administration of Ambrosia recieve reports that a member of the administration team is treating players like that, severe punishments shall follow. If you play on other communities who know Ambrosia and you are using your admin name there, don't give a bad image of Ambrosia with mis-conduct, you are a representative of Ambrosia and you must preserve the dignity of it.

Source : http://www.ambrosia-servers.com/community/index.php?topic=8.0

I wouldn't expect something like this.Regal you should go to their forum with evidence and report him for swearing at you and no swearing at him back ,you know it well ! It was really stupid what you done guys, you need to learn how to control yourselves and no raging/swearing/threating because of someone that swear at you.Just go to the forum and report him with 1 screenshot,simple and easy...but now

[Makiavel]

Got you the logs sir, freshly provided from Speedrun's logs as you claimed the racism. Sorry if I can't see it!
Server logs:

http://pastebin.com/5EfZyTiy

Regal Logs:
http://pastebin.com/guStVSyC

Mister Logs :
http://pastebin.com/kFY4MPz2
Those are very interesting aswell, threatening to get someone banned & to not get himself banned

    2013-07-30 01:09:28     STEAM_0:1:52759684      Mister #HS      i put tolga in team chat
    2013-07-30 01:10:05     STEAM_0:1:52759684      Mister #HS      Member so its on ur hands
    2013-07-30 01:10:12     STEAM_0:1:52759684      Mister #HS      Want you to get DDosed or the server?


I quote an admin:
06:50 - Maki: there's nothing before what you gave me?
06:50 - Shadi: not related to blacksmith, if you compare times it was around that time in which blacksmith first started talking
06:54 - Maki: btw, what was said before the xD
06:54 - Maki: by Regal?
06:54 - Shadi: STEAM ID?
06:54 - Maki: STEAM_0:0:62457520
06:54 - Maki: 00:43:43
06:54 - Shadi: http://pastebin.com/guStVSyC
06:56 - Maki: STEAM_0:1:52759684 logs pls
06:56 - Shadi: http://pastebin.com/kFY4MPz2
06:57 - Shadi: just giving u for today btw, if u want another date (basically from 2 AM our time) then ask
06:57 - Shadi: could also give u "the most recent" but meh, maybe collides with other servers

Now, anything to back your case up?

Let me tell you that :

neonDragon members and vips did perfectly their job in this case, you were warned multiple times, you were the ones that started the whole thing up, you had an unexcusable behaviour as an Ambrosia Administrator and then you tell that nD needs better members ? Are you sure you're right in your mind?

Note : At Admins/Members saying he could've reported on the forums, unfortunately he couldn't, for the simple reason that there is nothing he could report, the sole things that Blacksmith said is not even near what they said or what they threatened to do and not even a ban offense, it's barely worth a kick based on the way we members & admins act in neonDragon and they knew that very well.
Edit : Note that you fully knew what you were doing, you clearly knew VIPs couldn't voteban you or ban you and so kept going purposefully.

Also Blacksmith's full logs :

http://pastebin.com/KvWR7n0p

Yes, nice swearing at your family & racism. I can fully see it. Don't you mean it was your little friend Mister #HS that did it instead and swore at Blacksmith's mom? I think you're confusing people.

[Raven E II R]

Very nice guys, down to all time low.

[Card Clasher]

Expected this from Mister tbh..

But Regal.. That's just low.

Tbh sometimes trolling just for the sake of laughter to everyone in another server isn't that bad. But the insults and threats are just too low. This kinda destroyed an image of us Ambrosia started building since the start.

I think you guys should be okay with any kind of punishment towards you directed by the highstaff.

On the behalf of being one of Ambrosia's staff, I apologise Kolz for our Administrators' misconduct.

[Cap$0l is the real KAWAIII]

on behalf of being an ambrosian members

I apologize to Kolz

[Rawrplus]

We in sincerely apologize for the harm made in your community.  Thing is, whilst we try to maintain highest standards, I'm sure you understand that it's merely impossible to watch each and every single admin in a community of this magnitude.

No matter what the context behind it was, this does not apologize our members for behaving like that.  It directly violates AMBROSIA'S ADMINISTRATION POLICY paragraph 1:

1. No insulting, flaming or treating players with disrespect.
You are not allowed to insult or disrespect a player or a group of players personally. Do not disrespect players or flame them with offensive words. No such expressions as "fu*k you" or "you suck". If main administration of Ambrosia recieve reports that a member of the administration team is treating players like that, severe punishments shall follow. If you play on other communities who know Ambrosia and you are using your admin name there, don't give a bad image of Ambrosia with mis-conduct, you are a representative of Ambrosia and you must preserve the dignity of it.

I'm certain that it also violates rules of yours community. Cherry on top of the cake being, that the logs show, that Blacksmith wasn't even the one starting it. This is extremely dissapointing for us to see such attitude and we would have never seen it coming.

One more thing I wanted to talk about.

Honestly, have some of your admins fell so low that they need to flame and threaten people/the community itself somewhere else? It's pathetic.

I understand this is a huge reputation drop by their actions, but as I mentioned above we can not view every single step of our members It feels humiliating for us and we really hope not to put us inside a box thinking everybody behaves like that. The burnouts of people we are not responsible of do happen and it's a complete roulette to which community admin will it happen next time.

Either way, we will naturally take actions because the behavior was beyond terrible and will post them shortly.

Thanks for your time.

[Makiavel]

I do understand how hard it is to keep the quality of the administrators up and that you can't keep control of every admin, every so and then , there is that one person that steps out of the line when you're overseeing it. I agree that my comment was perhaps misused and thus misinterpreted by you. Sorry for this.

But I also do know some really good people here and I'm not going to put them in the same box because some people have thought it'd be right and funny to go somewhere else threatening the members and players there, I was merely coming to inform you guys from their behaviour. If I simply wanted to categorize all Ambrosian people under the same box, I wouldn't have bothered to take my time with this.

I simply hope for this to be resolved in a calm manner and for them to hopefully get what they deserve, I trust you guys with the decision of doing what is right in this community and I personally thank you guys for taking your time to even do something that didn't happen in the Ambrosia servers.

[Rawrplus]

Thank you for your understanding.

There's no need to apologize for that. It's just we Ambrosians are very proud of our community and we don't like anything else than being top quality community out there with everything being perfect. I do understand that the message was intended in good manners. I just wanted to make sure that you don't get the picture of Ambrosians being like that because that message has given me that impression.

Regarding the comment of "not happened in Ambrfosi-servers" whilst I understand there's a hole in our rules (which will be fixed in next rules update) the behavior was nowhere near acceptable and punishment is completely well deserved for sake of both communities.

There's not much for you to thank for as you've just done your job. We should rather be thankful for you reporting it so we have ability to maintain the quality of the administration team as good as possible.

We indeed will try tp resolve calm and fair manners, just like always.

Have a nice day

- Rawrplus

[thEnd]

We just recently had a discussion about admin actions in steam as a part of the virtual world where ambrosian admin becoming as the representative of our comunity. I will join to rest and apologize for their actions.

[MonsteR]

Wow is the only thing i can say.


I never expected such a thing from our admins. Mister was demoted for being immature and i dont see many changes to his behavior he is still na same. But Regal? I had never had any serious problems with him.


First of all I want to appologise to the other community at first place. I think this will not repeat and I hope we will keep our friendly relation with you guys because there isnt a reason to have a fight just because of 2 immature admins.


And second I think that both admins should be at least demoted. So much rasicum, disrespecting, insulting and even treating to ddos. In Ambrosia when you treat to ddos someone you get a perm ban. And you guys did many other things then just treating to ddos so you should be punished harsh as we dont need admins with such behavior here.


We may not punish when people have fights on steam but this is something much bigger then a steam fight and deserves a big punishment.



Regards,
Monster

[Burzum]

i must apologize also, 1st as High Staff in Ambro, and more important: these 2 kids are in my staff team also..... well, they are not... they WERE....

i can not tolerate this kind of ppl being administrating our servers

thank you for your report and your time posting here

we apreciate what you did

and sorry again for this childish behaviour

[MonsteR]

I guess we have to w8 for Konvict as one of them is in his admin team. When he replys we will solve this as i dont want to demote ppl which arent in my admin team.



Regards,
Monster


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[Konvict]

Hi,
first of all really thanks for reporting them. I would like to apologize about their actions and immature behavior especially about Mister since he is(was) in my admin team and i was the one who accepted him as admin but i guess i was wrong. For me he can say good bye to Deathmatch Administration Team. About Regal i never expected/imagined such an attitude from him anyway really sorry again about this. One thing is for sure , they will get what they deserve .

Thanks again.
Konvict

[MonsteR]

Both admins are demoted.


Moved to resolved.

[Ed]

Thanks Maki for reporting them.
I join Rawrplus apology, with hope of understanding we cannot follow every admin, specially what they do outside of the Community.
Both are demoted for such disgraceful and humiliating attitude.
Let this be a warning to the rest of the admin team. We will not tolerate such attitude towards us or anyone else.

Disappointed of both Regal and Mister.