report admin phiroth(?)

[Puw]

Admin: hiroph or phirpoh, god knows
Server: DD2
Date & Time:03 / 06/ 2013 00:28am
Complaint: Being completely useless and abusing his rights
Other Evidence (screenshots, demos...): Check logs from that time back to the last two maps. In short, this admin is non-steam, completely useless, totally incapable of spectating and banning any kind of cheater. We kept giving him information about sucpicious players (Lacoste and I), he was totally lost, not listening to anything. Cheaters were free to ruin our game, then once I dared to hurt his ego, he banned me for 5 minutes. Reason: flaming. Seems like anything that doesn't agree with his empty head is considered flaming. Sorry, I will not speak like a mormon, so your sensitive ears may bleed from my vulgar language. But why should I not raise my voice, when the guy has admin rights and does absolutely nothing? Not only that but, at the end he says: "If you think someone is cheating, make a demo". Then, what is his purpose there? And how will I record a demo without admin esp? Remove his rights, so that I don't have to put pressure on him and he won't have to listen to my complaints. I've never seen any admin doing his job, only SBYE.

[Raven E II R]

Do you mean Firroth?

[Puw]

Do you mean Firroth?

Yes. And what he is about to post is probably that I was not a role model in-game. And I really don't care, we are supposed to have fun, I'm not a robot, we will have moments of sarcasm, frustration and in this case disappointment. Imo, he should be removed asap and maybe given a chance later in the future.

[`Firroth]

The way you intentionally misspelled my name illustrates your level of intelligence. The problem with you, Rizyou, is that you think that you're better than any of us and that the world revolves around you. I have tried my best to be patience with you but even I have my limits.

Let the facts speak for itself. Check the logs and note the following:

1) As soon as I came into server, not even 5 minutes he was already moaning about cheaters. I swiftly transferred myself to Spec mode to deal with the reports.Rizyou immediately said that he would report me because of this.. well, I suppose only he knows the reason why.

2) Despite having work to do, I decide to stay because there wasn't any other admin. Throughout that period, I've countless times warned Rizyou not to flame. I was very patient I must say, and it took me a couple of hours to finally kick him

3) He has pretty much reported every single player who has killed him, and when action wasn't taken the way he intended, he would made sarcastic remarks which were insulting. For example: "I do not know why they give you admin rights the first place" or "I will get a more experienced admin"

4) As was mentioned above, Rizyou thinks that admins are there only to accomodate him ALONE. There are multiple reports from OTHER players who I had to deal with and not just his reports. Besides, he reported 3-4 players at the same time, so forgive me if I can't entertain everything instantly.

5) Also note that I only managed to play 5 minutes or so and then when on spec for most of the night. This was me trying to actually have a decent game before going to bed, however, I know my duties and I am confident that I had done what was necessary.

6) After I kicked him, he came back to tell me that he would report me. I told him "go ahead" and warned him that I would ban him for 5 minutes if he continues to flame on server. Immediately he replied with flammatory remarks against me and I then subsequently banned him for 5minutes.

7) I left server after that, anticipating this report.

p/s: I do have steam. I am just not a showoff like you. Some of the admins here are on my steam friendlist, they can be witness to this.


EDIT: because I am only reading your post thoroughly now, so I have to respond to some of your allegations.

We kept giving him information about sucpicious players (Lacoste and I), he was totally lost, not listening to

I find your accusations hilarious, check the banlist and tell me whether I've been doing my job or not.

Seems like anything that doesn't agree with his empty head is considered flaming. Sorry, I will not speak like a mormon, so your sensitive ears may bleed from my vulgar language.

What is flaming is flaming, I do not have to elaborate further on this, but just for the sake of completion, almost everyone on server was having a difficult time with your remarks.

Not only that but, at the end he says: "If you think someone is cheating, make a demo". Then, what is his purpose there? And how will I record a demo without admin esp?

This was because you were spamming on admin chat about someone's gameplay. I asked you many times who, but instead of giving me a name you just continue mumbling irrelevant stuffs. In the end you told me something like "just ban him, give my demo a chance, I would take full responsibility for the ban"... And that was when I replied you with "if you think someone is cheating and you have a demo, post it on forum.. he will get ban if you're right" ... please do not edit what I said just to suit your case.


EDIT: I just went through some of the demos I took while recording the players he (Rizyou) reported, I found one: http://www.mediafire.com/download/5ilgy4tdh52lx03/rizyouflaming3.dem . This happened right before I kicked and gave him a 5minutes ban.

Note:
1) prior to this demo I had given him multiple warnings about flaming... too many to count if I may add. - you can check the logs for that.
2) look at the response from the players to his kick/ban - evidence that I am not the only one was of the opinion he was flaming too much.

[thEnd]

So what about dontodo? Have your mate spected it? Is it good? Again i'm seeing you here without any evidences -.-

[P o p a y]

You cannot see everything from logs, stop saying "check logs" as your defensive system.. It really irritates me. Make a demo, type in console Record afterwards Stop and post it, and we will see whether admins behave properly or not.

And if you ask me I would say: Ty Firroth for doing your job properly, and Lock + Solve this topic. Reason: No evidence, no action!

Regards,
Popay

ps Nothing personal, I don't know both of you. Just expressing my opinion.

[Puw]

You cannot see everything from logs, stop saying "check logs" as your defensive system.. It really irritates me. Make a demo, type in console Record afterwards Stop and post it, and we will see whether admins behave properly or not.

And if you ask me I would say: Ty Firroth for doing your job properly, and Lock + Solve this topic. Reason: No evidence, no action!

Regards,
Popay

ps Nothing personal, I don't know both of you. Just expressing my opinion.

I'm not going to waste my time to record a 1h demo. My job is to report someone if he doesn't do his job, your job is to find out if it's true. When you want to kick someone, you are all eager to do it. When it's time to spectate someone or investigate a report, most of you don't want to be involved. Who did his job properly? The guy doesn't even have the actual game bought, he is incapable of even spectating someone after being notified via admin chat. I hope you are kidding.
@Thend, I will send you the demos in 5 minutes, as well as the ticks.

[Frank]

 My job is to report someone if he doesn't do his job, your job is to find out if it's true.
[/quote]

Without any proper evidence posted by someone they cant really find out if its true or not. and jeez can someone help me quote a single sentence...

[P o p a y]

If you are not wasting your time to provide evidence, we are not wasting our time to find if it is real or not..

Someone lock this topic please..

[Ezzα]

If no evidence is supplied by 5pm GMT then this will be closed.

[Puw]

If no evidence is supplied by 5pm GMT then this will be closed.

I just pointed out that he is not experienced and he did absolutely nohing, while in-game. It's really up to you to close it or take action. Either way, I don't hate the guy. This report may be a wake-up call for him to become better.

[Burzum]

If no evidence is supplied by 5pm GMT then this will be closed.

I just pointed out that he is not experienced and he did absolutely nohing, while in-game. It's really up to you to close it or take action. Either way, I don't hate the guy. This report may be a wake-up call for him to become better.

Puw, if you report somebody, u MUST bring some proof.... like in real life.... you can not blame on me if you have not any proof. coz i will roflmao so loud
i can say you are a cheater and a rule breaker... but i must bring some proof about it, or better i could stay in silence 

[`Firroth]

You cannot see everything from logs, stop saying "check logs" as your defensive system.. It really irritates me. Make a demo, type in console Record afterwards Stop and post it, and we will see whether admins behave properly or not.

And if you ask me I would say: Ty Firroth for doing your job properly, and Lock + Solve this topic. Reason: No evidence, no action!

Regards,
Popay

ps Nothing personal, I don't know both of you. Just expressing my opinion.

I'm not going to waste my time to record a 1h demo. My job is to report someone if he doesn't do his job, your job is to find out if it's true. When you want to kick someone, you are all eager to do it. When it's time to spectate someone or investigate a report, most of you don't want to be involved. Who did his job properly? The guy doesn't even have the actual game bought, he is incapable of even spectating someone after being notified via admin chat. I hope you are kidding.
@Thend, I will send you the demos in 5 minutes, as well as the ticks.

As expected the octogenarian spewed an endless stream of gibberish. You see, I tried to be civilized with you but seem like you're either blind or your parents must have dropped you on the floor when you were a kid (pardon my French). How many times do I have to tell you that I have the game and I have steam, multiple accounts in fact. I am a working lawyer, would it be so difficult for me to afford a steam account or the game for that matter? I just don't prioritize the game as much as to think it is necessary to chase after fame and glory via steam id, hence I usually keep a low profile and only add few of my friends that I would mix with. (Header can be my witness). So flush that brain of yours with some common sense.

To address the other allegations, again I would like to repeat, you're the only one who has problem with my capability as an admin, similar to how a government won't change with one of it's citizen disagreeing, one opinion of yours is not the voice of the majority. As far as I am concerned, I've been doing my job properly (check banlist for evidence) and many are been contented with me (check the demo posted).

Seems to me that you're only here to create problems. To the highstaffs reviewing this matter, I expect him to be punished if he fails this complaint. I quote the rule from: http://www.ambrosia-servers.com/community/index.php?topic=11.0

Thank you.

[Puw]

You cannot see everything from logs, stop saying "check logs" as your defensive system.. It really irritates me. Make a demo, type in console Record afterwards Stop and post it, and we will see whether admins behave properly or not.

And if you ask me I would say: Ty Firroth for doing your job properly, and Lock + Solve this topic. Reason: No evidence, no action!

Regards,
Popay

ps Nothing personal, I don't know both of you. Just expressing my opinion.

I'm not going to waste my time to record a 1h demo. My job is to report someone if he doesn't do his job, your job is to find out if it's true. When you want to kick someone, you are all eager to do it. When it's time to spectate someone or investigate a report, most of you don't want to be involved. Who did his job properly? The guy doesn't even have the actual game bought, he is incapable of even spectating someone after being notified via admin chat. I hope you are kidding.
@Thend, I will send you the demos in 5 minutes, as well as the ticks.

As expected the octogenarian spewed an endless stream of gibberish. You see, I tried to be civilized with you but seem like you're either blind or your parents must have dropped you on the floor when you were a kid (pardon my French). How many times do I have to tell you that I have the game and I have steam, multiple accounts in fact. I am a working lawyer, would it be so difficult for me to afford a steam account or the game for that matter? I just don't prioritize the game as much as to think it is necessary to chase after fame and glory via steam id, hence I usually keep a low profile and only add few of my friends that I would mix with. (Header can be my witness). So flush that brain of yours with some common sense.

To address the other allegations, again I would like to repeat, you're the only one who has problem with my capability as an admin, similar to how a government won't change with one of it's citizen disagreeing, one opinion of yours is not the voice of the majority. As far as I am concerned, I've been doing my job properly (check banlist for evidence) and many are been contented with me (check the demo posted).

Seems to me that you're only here to create problems. To the highstaffs reviewing this matter, I expect him to be punished if he fails this complaint. I quote the rule from: http://www.ambrosia-servers.com/community/index.php?topic=11.0

Thank you.

Just be a better admin. That's all. You don't seem to understand and you think you are flawless. So, I don't see any point in discussing this further. I understand that I should be the one posting screenshots or logs. I thought someone is supposed to check them, based on the time I made the report. My mistake, you can close this, I will be more careful in the future.

[WILLIE]

A report about Firroth, as expected more lies and hidden bad things from Puw's side...Firroth has always been doing his job properly

an admin has a life to live and his free time is not set for you and your complaints about all the skilled players you think they cheat, if you think that's how an admin should fulfill his duties then go find another server where you can see admins doing it the way you want.

even if you bring an evidence still you're the guilty one cuz you were getting warned for flaming and continued doing so, which got you banned for only 5 minutes that means you're lucky cuz firroth is a tolerant person, all you're gonna say next will not make sense so dont bother.

I think the report should be locked, there's nothing to declare.

[~RoN]

@puw : i dont really understand by "Be a better admin".

He is a great admin and he is very patient when it comes to take action so i dont really think that he done some thing wrong. He is really a great guy and friendly. You acted in a bad way by starting too flame in server and flame him. You could at least say to him thank you that he was in server at that time while no admins were online, and you know ambrosia have really some skilled players here in servers it dosent mean that when some one is better than you that he is cheating "i say this because i see firroth reply that while you were getting killed you was saying [cheater]". So just try to solve the problem with him and its done. Since i know him from demolition while he was admin there in dd2 he was doing a great job no one had problems with him. Since he respect's every one but i think that you jumped a bit over the red line.

Nothing personal, its just my opinion. 

[Puw]

@puw : i dont really understand by "Be a better admin".

He is a great admin and he is very patient when it comes to take action so i dont really think that he done some thing wrong. He is really a great guy and friendly. You acted in a bad way by starting too flame in server and flame him. You could at least say to him thank you that he was in server at that time while no admins were online, and you know ambrosia have really some skilled players here in servers it dosent mean that when some one is better than you that he is cheating "i say this because i see firroth reply that while you were getting killed you was saying [cheater]". So just try to solve the problem with him and its done. Since i know him from demolition while he was admin there in dd2 he was doing a great job no one had problems with him. Since he respect's every one but i think that you jumped a bit over the red line.

Nothing personal, its just my opinion. 

Yes, maybe I went too far. I was just frustrated because me and Lacoste were getting killed like that all the time and I just put all my hopes on Firroth|eX|. We felt he didn't quite deliver what we expected from him, that's all.

[`Firroth]

No mate. This is not how things work. You don't just come here, spout nonsensical accusations at someone then end it by saying "sorry" and expect a close case without any consequences whatsoever.

Lucky for you, because as a lawyer I have attention to details such as this:

Please note, Irrevelant reports will be ignored and by matter, the reporter punished. Also try not to involve any personal stuff and do not spam go offtopic in the replies.Thanks

http://www.ambrosia-servers.com/community/index.php?topic=11.0

[Ezzα]

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