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Offline Rob

[UNBANNED]rob got banned ...
« on: June 01, 2013, 11:35:58 am »
hey guys .. my bro was playing and he got banned on ambrosia pub
reason : swearing ...
steeam id : STEeaM_0:0:4977307
ip :   Don't post your ip here please - Konvict


« Last Edit: June 01, 2013, 11:42:50 am by Konvict »

Offline Big Bob

rob got banned ...
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2013, 11:35:58 am »
Thank you for posting an Unban Request. Shortly the Emperors shall review your unban request. Please in the meantime have patience and DO NOT ban evade (which means; you cannot play in any of our servers while banned), otherwise your request will be automatically DENIED. In the meantime read clearly the Unban Request Rules and check the Banlist to see the information on your ban. If the admin doesn't provide a demo or comment within 48h after you posted this unban request, then you'll go free and you'll be unbanned.

Regards,
The Ambrosian Emperors.

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Re: rob got banned ...
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2013, 11:37:48 am »
Bah u dont accept it that u did it? So I Need to uploud the evidence.. Well actually for me if somone swears against Sister, mother, I ban them perm so they can come and make unban request.

Ill uploud it

Offline owNz

Re: rob got banned ...
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2013, 11:41:38 am »
first of all Rob didn't ban his little bro did , 2nd  mm that swear doesn't deserve perm maybe kick if he do it again then 10 mins if he do it again then  1 day if again then 1 week or perm so he can make unban req but this is the first time he get a warning for swearing and he get a perm GG :D anyway unban as fast as possible maybe ?

can you wait untill admins show here the proofs and decide about the punishment ¿?.- Burzum
« Last Edit: June 01, 2013, 11:42:53 am by Burzum »
Just go to hell

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Re: rob got banned ...
« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2013, 11:44:59 am »
first of all Rob didn't ban his little bro did , 2nd  mm that swear doesn't deserve perm maybe kick if he do it again then 10 mins if he do it again then  1 day if again then 1 week or perm so he can make unban req but this is the first time he get a warning for swearing and he get a perm GG :D anyway unban as fast as possible maybe ?

can you wait untill admins show here the proofs and decide about the punishment ¿?.- Burzum

Hello mister rules maker. aka ownz

I aint going to do that, as he went directly against family of somone else. Smit already told me once to permban such guys. If they can take the time to swear like that they should find the time to come and apologize and make a unban request.

Evidence: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=149629921
Evidence: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=149629895

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Re: rob got banned ...
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2013, 11:50:19 am »
well i know he did swear burzum ... his bro told me that he swore and got banned and fisu told me that he swore at some 1 mother and sister even before the unban request was posted ...
well he deserve a punishment but not perm and not even 1 day ( 30 mins are good even 30 mins are too much since its the first time he swear and/or get warned here on ambrosia
Just go to hell

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Re: rob got banned ...
« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2013, 11:53:55 am »
As we said, it aint in ur Hands to make this punishment and it will never be. Even it was his brother, the punishment is should be leaded on the evidence which Shows clearly a hard swearing.

Stop Setting times and days how Long he should be banned cuz u wont decide that. We have Moderators and higher that decide such things!

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Re: rob got banned ...
« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2013, 11:54:47 am »
There is a reason why we give permanent bans for such people as Fisu already said, if they have a mouth like that, maybe if they washed it a little bit, they can come and apologize.

What matters on the unban request. Rob, how about sort your brother out? I think there must be change in rules, too many times it's been my little brother did this or that. Just saying...
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Re: rob got banned ...
« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2013, 12:18:50 pm »
There is a reason why we give permanent bans for such people as Fisu already said, if they have a mouth like that, maybe if they washed it a little bit, they can come and apologize.

What matters on the unban request. Rob, how about sort your brother out? I think there must be change in rules, too many times it's been my little brother did this or that. Just saying...
well yeah there must be some changes but it was really his Brother i was talking to him ( his brother ) before he get the ban ... anyway decide the ban u wanna give but remember this is the first time he gets kicked / banned / warned for swearing 
Just go to hell

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Re: rob got banned ...
« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2013, 12:33:09 pm »
guys ,my bro doesnt know anything about rules in amrbosia servers ! i think he doesnt know know anything about rules in all servers .... !
im sorry for what happend ...

Offline Artus

Re: rob got banned ...
« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2013, 12:49:17 pm »
Rob, where your little brother knows berate and to insult, so surely knows  make a request for unban and explain its behavior. Insult and slurs should be hard punished.
Proposes to refuse the this request and wait at the request of his little brother if there is
Artus
« Last Edit: June 01, 2013, 12:52:06 pm by Artus »

Offline owNz

Re: rob got banned ...
« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2013, 01:31:53 pm »
well artus his ip ain't banned the steam ID is banned which is rob's steam ... and he really have a brother and he swore . anyway choose the punishment which i think it should be already over anyway Gl Picking the best decision 
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Re: rob got banned ...
« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2013, 03:04:55 pm »
I said its view and suggestion, it's nothing personal, just need to finally address the problem above laying still turn a blind eye. I know it's hard, because this bad habit they also have some of our Admins. :(

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Re: rob got banned ...
« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2013, 03:16:42 pm »
i know this guy , he's very skilled and mature he loves ambrosia .He makes an unban request,  which means he wants to stay here
he deserves an other  chance
« Last Edit: June 01, 2013, 03:23:25 pm by i`Freeze »
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Re: rob got banned ...
« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2013, 04:37:42 pm »
Well I was there with Fisu when that happened, so was thEnd. I checked the logs and this guy was swearing his arse off. I'd have personally ban him myself if Fisu did not do so.
The issue here is that there is no establish precedent as to the minimum or maximum punishment for flamers. Flaming covers a very wide scope and imposing one universal punishment for all flamers would not be adequate because each case is subjected to its own facts.

For example: When a player calls another player a noob or a cheater, that is flaming. So is the case when a player swears at someone's family or making racial slurs.

Albeit both fall under the same category of offense, the weight of each misconduct is significantly different and it is only fair that a heavier punishment is imposed on the more serious case. This is where we admins come into the picture, what punishment suit the offender should fall under the discretion of the admin. Though it is important also to note that different admin has different standard, so long as we(admins) do not exercise our authorities outside the scope of our limitations, it should be fine.

Looking at Fisu's perspective I can understand why he did what he did. The seriousness of the offense committed by Roby calls for a heavier sanction. Fisu later on explained to thEnd and me that he gave a permanent ban because he felt that it was adequate, and if it isn't, the player can always make an appeal for unban (which he did) wherein thereafter his case will be heard by the bulk of the community & the highstaffs.

« Last Edit: June 01, 2013, 04:40:01 pm by Firroth|eX| »

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Re: rob got banned ...
« Reply #15 on: June 01, 2013, 05:52:37 pm »
I agree and I think that would not have been a problem to split punishments by the severity. When they guys entertain, for the Admin should not be a problem to discern entertainment since insults. When the it exceeds a certain threshold, and players will begin to insult each other, their families, or use rasisitické swearing, there would punish rigorously ban and unban application, Documented evidence could be punishments since 2 weeks to 1 year according to the severity and think that would have been peace, but this should be stated in the rules.
It's just my opinion and you do not agree with that.

Artus

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Re: rob got banned ...
« Reply #16 on: June 01, 2013, 06:32:06 pm »
All this is TL;DR

I just cant level up some ;£&;@££ with cheating.
We have a wide choice of timed bans. Mother or sister, if flame is continued on same cases I agree on permban for some "special" ppl. But in fisu case - I haven't seen warn/kick/ban.

Just a permban. This is the way how lazy admins like smit administrate :D
If we will continue to permban without explanation, many players are not bothered to came and reg so we are loosing a numbers..

Also about 6months ago I suggested to make a margins for bans, as some admins do permban for "duck yor mum" some just for 1week.

I always suggest to use common sense and better to educate in cheater busting than in permbaning flamenators :D playing a strict admin not always helps..

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Re: rob got banned ...
« Reply #17 on: June 01, 2013, 06:32:58 pm »
Thanks to the opinions that have been given here. As Firroth already said, with such things I aint joking and let them come away with a kick or a 10 min ban. Artus alsow said a nice Point where they all would start Insult each other, and thats what we want to Keep away from the Server. He deserved this ban.

Rob, I belive u that it was ur brother. But the punish will go to the steamID that used that swearing, as we dont look who did it but which IP or Steam ID did that.

Regards

Offline thEnd

Re: rob got banned ...
« Reply #18 on: June 01, 2013, 06:34:38 pm »
Fisu, actualy there is warn/kick/ban rule, and you must obey .

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Re: rob got banned ...
« Reply #19 on: June 01, 2013, 06:38:00 pm »
I think there must be change in rules, too many times it's been my little brother did this or that. Just saying...

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