A beautifull example

[Destroy-Sama]

seriously, i think that topic must be locked because of all the spammers with stupid comments that have no relations with the topic
(also warn stupid posters <_< )

maybe lock and wait for Shark since we had the version of Tasha ?

[Sight]

Locked untill shark replies then.

[Ezzα]

If you think my opinion is biased then i would happily resign from my position and let these guys continue there role. I am simply telling you guys to open your eyes beyond the normal problems, this community has been seperated into groups where the support is given to members to cover up there abuse. This has become a common practice in this community and i am always acting as the bad guy to remove these abusers.

I will clarify once again that if you think my judgement is biased then i would happily resign. This decision is not rage quitting but since a few of you think i am comprimising my role and that i am being unfair then perhaps its time for me to retire...........

[tαshαღ]

I'll probably be banned soon enough anyway so i'll make a final post! I never came to Ambrosia with the aim of making a vast amount of friends. I did try, but I had virtually nothing in common with the majority of you. Me and Sammi came to Ambrosia together after finding it after she was banned from neondragon (for trolling haha!), we never really came with the whole idea of making friends, we've both been playing for many years and me and Sammi already had our own friends who were outside the community, the people who we play mixes with and talk to on most days. Some of our little groupies would come on the server, "lil wayne" was our friend, some of you really liked him in jailbreak doing his impressions of lil wayne.


We took a lot of crap if we're being honest, most of you have seen people threaten to rape us, threaten to murder us, talk about sticking their genitals in places we don't really want to think about bearing in mind some of those people were half our ages, but I think for 90% of the time, we did just take it on the chin and didn't get too upset over it. A lot has been said about us, basically we get treated like we're devils, but we're not.. Yes we are probably the biggest pain in the ass to ever grace this community but that doesn't mean that we're bad people or deserved the way some people treated us. I get told to suck a d!ck or suck on balls at least 3x a day on ambrosia servers, comments like this happened to us daily in Ambrosia and screenshotting can only get you so far. But, we're from trolling based communities so of course our natural reaction is to troll back.

I took the blame for a lot of people when it came to reporting (tolga being one, i reported this on behalf of someone else), think it would of been kind of impossible for me to always be on the server at the same time to make reports, none of you really guessed this though and automatically assumed it was me, and not that sometimes i was being used to cover others tracks. Hello you can say i cause fights in JB or whatever, but that's a lie. I always had an opinion and i'm free to express my opinions, i was right about JF anyway since he was caught freekilling on demo, sometimes people just clash and there's nothing that can be changed.. I haven't been involved in any fights with JB for a long long time, unless youre talking about reports on admins, where i already explained not all reports were directly me, sometimes i was given evidence and id act like it was me (oosh! wrong move! don't do this - it will get you majorly hated). Maybe I shouldn't have, but if others don't want to own up to their reports and want to do it through me then it's no bother, I respect that they don't want to lose the friends they have in JB because this is what ultimately happens when you report someone, you lose everyone who disagrees with reporting an admin or player doing wrong, and all these rumours crop up about you acting as if you are some sort of demon.. Wait wut?

Of course, I always got on the most with ezza. Tbh i love the guy, not literally cos that would be weird, but i was by far closest to him out of anyone else. He didn't stick up for me like you all think, but he always knew my side of the story as well. He was the only one out of all the higher staff who always knew what was going on, he was the only one who would go through all server logs to check what really happened.. He knows all the stuff i've dealt with from admins or players which is why probably it might come across like hes defending me, but it isnt like that. On this occasion with shark, he was on screen-share with me, he saw what was happening so he can vouch that it was a two way thing. If you have ever flamed at me on steam, or annoyed me, or flamed on the server and got away with it, chances are ezza knows about it, but most of the times he didn't act he just let me get abused, he knew I could take it. Some of you act as if its the end of the world being called a noob, try having people threaten to rape you and your family and wish death upon you all, it's a little different to having a contrasting opinion which some of you automatically assumed was "flame" when really it wasn't. He could have stepped in a lot more with some of you and interfered and banned, but most of the time he let it happen because I didn't act like i was bothered.


I'll be honest, only people i really genuinely talked down to while i was an admin was cersai, i'll apologise for that but i won't apologise for sammi because she's a different person and she will probably rage at me if i post for her. 5stars, your incident was irrelevant since it was after this happened and it was in a war, that doesnt happen every day but to be fair you were using cheating settings which made playing pointless, but we still won so QQ!! Altamos, you disappoint me if you think i was the reason for you leaving. I didn't flame at you, in fact i had forgot the incident with oliver where i think joxbox pasted a log of me on irc saying something like "ROFL INTERP K" because the demo was clearly not interp. interp does not make the aim do what it did. i think you held this grudge for many months and up until the hltv thing, to me you abusing people on hltv was like someone abusing you in ambrosia, hltv was second hand to the time i had at esl, if someone came on here and started flaming at you then i think you would of been annoyed, hope you can see my point on this that your comments were completely disrespectful to all HLTV staff who had to take the time out of providing coverage to delete your comments, and also disrespectful to all those people you insulted. To try and turn this around on me and act like i flamed you is pretty stupid, because i know i didn't flame at you on either of those incidents. i don't have you on steam, so my only contact with you would have been on the forum or on the servers, and im sure if i flamed at you on either of these then i would have been swiftly banned and dealt with. id appreciate it if the 5stars clan who are "hating" on me stay out of this thread, because a) you don't know me and B) i'd never heard of any of you until yesterday, so how can you say anything? Jingo, you can't say ezza is doing anything not to ban me, the fact is there isn't any evidence of me flaming on the servers like people claim bar a SS of me calling people idiots who ruined bases, which i admitted to. You and you're clan have just insulted me by saying i should suicide on the forum, this is more worthy of a ban..

This thing with shark, i liked shark, and i did kind of respect him, but we've been insulting each other for a long time and never really saw any harm in it. probably this incident was the most extreme, but he has been calling me names etc for a long time and admitted he liked to wind me up. he didnt have to demote me and moderate me for this, because he did exactly the same. i did ask mcain not to post this, but this is pretty much what happened with olive too and i know mcain had an issue with this then as well, so this is more like a request for respect from high staff as well for him rather than hope for me. i know what shark says about me starting it and him wanting me to respect him is pretty much crap because he hasnt cared for a long time, he told me he wanted to annoy me and wanted me to rage, he found it funny, so i gave him what he wanted like he gave me a few chuckles too.. i think what annoyed him the most was the fact i added sammi in, maybe i shouldn't have added her in but you all know that me and sammi will always defend each other and always will. basically if you insult one of us, then the other one will always be there. problem with this is that some people started assuming we were one person, some people thought i was a lot more aggressive than sammi and some people thought the opposite and a lot of the time failed to see the difference in us both, but meh we can't change back time, we came as two and we will leave as two.

Some of you probably realised that I haven't been playing in JB as much, I kind of lost fun in it. I liked playing with Pawn and Lux, and I liked it when they trolled around because it was entertaining for me, but ultimately they were breaking half of the rules so nothing could be done. I still have fun on there now and again with the right people, but I've started playing again normal CS. JB and BB kind of destroy your skill level in CS massively and I don't want to stay so bad at the game so you'll probably only see me on public with friends from now on This is why I don't really care about being demoted from those servers, I tried to do a good job there and I think I did, even though it wasn't really insanely enjoyable for me any more I still gave up time to try and make them better. I'm not going to say oh im leaving the community, but i probably will stick to public with friends and play pugs because i'm enjoying this right now. 99% of the people who claim to hate me etc haven't actually ever had a normal conversation with me or ever spoke to me properly, maybe if you had you'd feel a differently but who knows! I'll tell you who I really valued here..


Ezza - He always took stick and people always acted like he was covering up for us, he wasn't, he acted on evidence. I took stick purely because people hated me, reporting one person would get you hate from 10 people. Even when those reports were not all strictly mine and i was doing it for others, ezza knew this but he still wouldn't give out the identity of those who were reporting. He always knew i didn't care if i took the blame so sometimes he would let it happen, and he always saw the back force of hate towards me when people thought i had made a report and the lies of me flaming at people in response to that report. Shark and Arne seemed to see it as all hate me which is a problem, but I don't think there is many people in the community i genuinely offended or flamed at, cersai is probably the only one off the top of my head who i was vile to and I already said sorry, this wasn't even reported afaik. Me and Sammi are incredibly grateful for the time you took out to listen to us and see our points, not many actually bothered to go on undercover and I think when you did go on undercover you saw our points entirely.

Lux - Although he was the biggest trouble maker around, I still talk to him and still think he's funny.


Arne - at the beginning we clashed, you're mr serious but then you have another side to you which is like a 5 yr old. your english always makes me laugh. i don't think you believe all what you're told, you saw my point entirely when you would go on undercover those few times, i just hope that sometimes you would of focussed on what you had seen more than what people say, because a lot of it wasn't true. i know that you saw the same side as i did, because you admitted it.

Mcain - Out of all, he's probably the most intelligent. Can't deny that, he's a brain box. Most down to earth guy here, he's fun and always happy but incredibly smart, if anyone ever insults him i will hunt you down.

sMiT - I think he knows i'm not all that bad, i hope, he always stays out of all and I respect that. He was always a silent admin, he would always be there but never really spoke but I think he's coming out of his shell more so that's good and i'm happy that we can now all finally hear his lovely british accent!

Renegade - One day me and sammi will meet him and marry him. One of a kind! <3

Taha - you act a lot older than your age and you've always been there to have little bitching sessions, I guess we think similar things and I respect you a lot.


Sammi can't post because she's IP banned for this.. I'll post the picture's she did to say goodbye since she doesn't really have any way of talking to you all now.











xoxo!

[Ezzα]

I really hope the pair of you stay. I praise you girls for admitting to your flame inparticularly to Cersei, i know that there are a few cowards on this community who wouldnt have the courage to admit to there flame. Too many members here are scared to upset there friends in case they get blamed for the removal of your rights and they will eventually join them in the abuse rather than doing the right thing.

You are very right in that you girls are flamed on a daily basis which were much much more than the ordinary noob so i guess you were right into defending yourselfs. I hope you girls do stay but i personally feel very dissapointed at this very moment.............

[Ezzα]

I have unbanned Sammi and changed her status to moderated so that she is able to view the forum and post providing the staff approve her message. Apologies to Shark for acting before consultation but i honestly do believe this is fair for both parties.

Shark if you feel i have done wrong then please feel free to demote me fully to normal member!

[SharkX69]

Hello all.
Eric theres no need for you to retire neither to demote you cause you are excellent to your work and we been together from the start and you helped us to everything and i mean everything so you dont have to say things aboyt retire etc.

Ok about the issue with tasha.
Tasha says i started it but once again you try to cover yourself. Yes its true we had chats everyday i called you things you called me things etc.
So basically that day we started like always for fun but it end up to a big fight.
Yes i like to annoying you since we were having fun everyday like that you never compalint about this but now you do public to win something.
If you didnt like it you could just block me or ask me to stop but no you enjoyed it too aswell cause they were many times that you contacted me and say oi oi idiot to start a chat.
Anyway it end up to a fight and  your language and sammi's of course was bad as mine yes i never said that i didnt flamed back. I wont sit get flamed by two since you called sammi and yes that annoyed me most why to call sammi i told you that day also? To be your lawyer?
So you should have seen that coming both of you and you were lucky that i havent ordered to ban you aswell on servers. Eric knows why i did this and Arne i told them that i wanted to give the a lesson to have some respect cause you dont have. I wasnt gonna keep you banned and moderated forever but only for some days for a punishment but you just cant wait and now you made it even bigger issue and the worse with your action is that you dont learning what respect is.
Yes i shouldnt have flamed like that and it was wrong by me i admit it and most of the people here know me and i never flamed like that only now and with olive. I do have respect for people and i have prooved that all this time here.
Also after the fight we had you contact me next day and you continue it thats why im saying you are not learning and you dont have any respect.
Here is the conv of next day after the fight.
.tαshα?: yeh yeh demote me when u call me shemale and cunt too
.tαshα?: yeh yeh nice work
.tαshα?: go tell me to play with dildos
SharkX69: im sorry but yest you told me: go demote me idiot now you fucking asshole
SharkX69: didnt you?
SharkX69: so i did
.tαshα? is now Away.
.tαshα? is now Online.
.tαshα?: nope thats not in the logs i saved!
.tαshα?: i saved it
.tαshα?: u wanna swee ?
.tαshα?: :DD
SharkX69: well dunno what logs you saved and dosnt matter much now
SharkX69: i dont need any proofs cause it was me you were talking yest
SharkX69: not anyone else
.tαshα?: hahahaha
SharkX69: you direct told me go demote me idiot
.tαshα?: u always wanted me demoted anyway
SharkX69: i did
.tαshα?: SharkX69: hope you become a girl one day you shemale
.tαshα?: SharkX69: you are ugly you shit fuck
SharkX69: well like i told you in past i never wanted you demoted if i wanted you you were be demoted long time now
.tαshα?: Randy: ye i will get m dildo out
SharkX69: hahaha
Randy: u wana watch shark
Randy: ?
.tαshα?: ROFL
.tαshα?: DEMO THIS
.tαshα?: DEMO
SharkX69: nah your both ugly
SharkX69: dont focus on what i said only focus on what you said too
.tαshα?: SharkX69: you are cunt dont forget that
SharkX69: and plus you called sammi for what?
SharkX69: to be the lawyer
SharkX69: ?
.tαshα?: why cant i call sammi?
.tαshα?: she can say whatever she wants to say to you
.tαshα?: i dont control her
SharkX69: to flame me
.tαshα?: i only told her what you told me
.tαshα?:
.tαshα?: i showed her what you said to me
.tαshα?: up to her if she wnts to bitch at you
SharkX69: yes and i can do what i want with her and with you when you flame me
SharkX69: so dont moan now
.tαshα?: you flamed at me too you stupoid retard
SharkX69: well if she wants to bitch with me then she lost
SharkX69: hehe
.tαshα?: how did she lose?
SharkX69: you'll see
.tαshα?: ?!
.tαshα?: you cant do anything to sammi
SharkX69: well im not gonna beat her up lol
.tαshα?: obviously she would easly beat you twig arms
SharkX69: sure
.tαshα?: so what are you gonna do to sammi?
.tαshα?:
SharkX69: well not much only what we do with all who flame
SharkX69: moderated muted
.tαshα?: sammi doesnt use ambrosia servers so NICE WORK
.tαshα?: OOO MODERATED MUTED
.tαshα?: ur acting liek she uses forum daily
SharkX69: well she use it sometimes so now she wont use it again
.tαshα?: ROFL
.tαshα?: you called her an ugly shit fuck and told her to go play with a dildo
.tαshα?: are you fucking serious?
SharkX69: i dont care if she use it everyday or once in month
SharkX69: iam serious
.tαshα?: HAHAHAHAH
SharkX69: well laugh as much as you like
.tαshα?: i am laughing
.tαshα?: youre funny
SharkX69: thank you
.tαshα?: its ite
.tαshα?: i understand you have some issues
.tαshα?: i believe you lost some respect from MANY members when you did thisw with olive too
.tαshα?: telling her to go use a dildo
.tαshα?: now its happened 2 more times
SharkX69: yeah yeah
SharkX69: well i didnt lost any respect
.tαshα?: yeh you did
SharkX69: she deserved it
.tαshα?: ?
.tαshα?: she deserved you to tell her to go use a dildo? youre 2x her age
SharkX69: and the funny thing is that she asked me sorry even tho i said that to her
SharkX69: and we are friends now
SharkX69:
.tαshα?: ahahahahahaha
.tαshα?: but youre still a retard
SharkX69: not as much as you are
SharkX69: hehe
.tαshα?: well i'm not a retard
.tαshα?: so nice work
SharkX69: you are bret
.tαshα?: still flaming?
.tαshα?: cool story bro
SharkX69: thanks
.tαshα? is now playing Counter-Strike. Click here to join.
.tαshα? is now playing Counter-Strike. Click here to join.
.tαshα?: you have the mentality of a 5 yr old
.tαshα?: literally
.tαshα?: OOO TASHA FLAME AT ME
.tαshα?: you dumb fuck you flamed just as much
.tαshα? is now playing Counter-Strike. Click here to join.
SharkX69: still raging girl?
SharkX69: hahahaha
.tαshα?: no
SharkX69: go crie to sammi again
SharkX69: cry
.tαshα?: learn to spell
.tαshα?: na sammis laughing
.tαshα? is now playing Counter-Strike. Click here to join.
.tαshα?: u gonna ban me too?
.tαshα? is now playing Counter-Strike. Click here to join.
SharkX69: well your still raging at me and flaming at me
SharkX69: what would you do?
.tαshα?: what do you mean what would i do
.tαshα?: i wouldnt demote someone or ban someone when i flamed back
SharkX69: in my place
.tαshα?: dont give it if you cant take it
.tαshα?: if you didnt flame back
.tαshα?: and you didnt say anything
.tαshα?: then id understand
.tαshα?: but you did
SharkX69: well you start it all the time
.tαshα?: you said we were cunts you said we were ugly shit fucks
.tαshα?: no you start it
.tαshα?: you start it off as a joke and then so do i then you just carry on
SharkX69: i can handle it and take for fun as always but you yest and sammi crossed the line cause you were raged
.tαshα?: you bought meso into it when you knew meso annoys me
.tαshα?: no we werent raged we were laughing
.tαshα?: how did we cross the line btw?
.tαshα?: yuo called us ugly shit fucks and said go play with dildos and to die
.tαshα?: you didnt cross the line either?
.tαshα?: dont cry about what we say when you said worse
.tαshα?: idiot
SharkX69: see still flaming at me
.tαshα? is now playing Counter-Strike. Click here to join.
SharkX69: so no other choice
.tαshα?: rofl
.tαshα?: idiot isnt flame
.tαshα?: im repeating what you said
SharkX69: i flamed you like that when you first flamed at me like that
SharkX69: you said go and die
SharkX69: etc
.tαshα?: nope
.tαshα?: i didnt say that
.tαshα?:
SharkX69: and i was like what shes saying now?
SharkX69: lol
.tαshα?: got the logs saved
SharkX69: yes you did
.tαshα?: so dont try it
SharkX69: well you dont try it
.tαshα? is now playing Counter-Strike. Click here to join.
SharkX69: if you were smart you should stop it and talk politely but you still raging and flaming to me
SharkX69: big mistake tasha
.tαshα?: im not raging or flaming at you
.tαshα?: ?!?!?!?!
.tαshα?: why would i talk politely to you when you call me shemale?
.tαshα?:
.tαshα?: shemale is flame or didnt you know this?
SharkX69: .tαshα?: dont cry about what we say when you said worse
.tαshα?: idiot
SharkX69: see? still flaming
.tαshα?: idiot isnt flame
.tαshα?: nope idiot isnt flame
.tαshα?: no one has ever been banned for sayin gidiot
.tαshα? is now playing Counter-Strike. Click here to join.
.tαshα? is now playing Counter-Strike. Click here to join.
.tαshα? is now Offline.
.tαshα? is now Online.

Plus you contact me again the next days and demand from me to apologise to you.
I really dont have a problem to apologise im a man that knows to say sorry when he's wrong but the way you asked dosnt let me to give it to you.
When you want from someone to say you sorry you must be ready to say it too since you were wrong too and not to demond it from the other.

[Ezzα]

Tasha says i started it but once again you try to cover yourself. Yes its true we had chats everyday i called you things you called me things etc.

Shark i was here when it was happening. However like you said above, you have both always flamed each other to have some fun and chuckle. I think its slightly unfair to use this to punish them since it got slightly out of hand. If i was in a similar position then whatever happened in that chat should have stayed with no punishment enforced since you gave Tasha as much as you got. You flame, she flame so it should stay private and not taken personal.

Sometimes Tasha flames at me directly on steam but we are just having a laugh and i have never taken her comments personal

[tαshαღ]

Shark you're power tripping. Don't say that if i didn't like it then i should have blocked you, remember a few months ago you did virtually the same to me and i blocked you from all? then you told ezza you wanted me demoted because i refused to talk to you because of how you spoke to me, i think i told mcain about this as well when it happened not sure. I know i said sorry, not because i meant it, but purely to make you stop crying saying how i MUST not block you, you said if i block you i can't be an admin because i need to have communication with you, this was clearly a lie since i doubt all admins have you on their FL. So yep, the blocking idea was out of the window after what happened months ago. I think only ezza and mcain(?) knew when this happened.

Yes i talk to you saying "oi idiot" but i talk to a lot like this and you never took it seriously as i already said, you also would message me daily calling me a sl.ut in greek or saying im a b.itch, the other SS was from the first week in october, not too recent.. I always said you wanted me demoted because you did, you posted it in higher boards and then tried to deny this. not because i was a bad admin, but because of some other stuff. so yeh i'd always say "go demote me then", because frankly the demoting didn't bother me, in my eyes it's your loss because i'd sit on basebuilder even if i wasn't enjoying it just to make sure an admin was on the server. i was enjoying public and 5on5's a lot more again anyway.

Also, Eric was on screenshare, i checked my skype of that night to see if i posted it to eric first you annoying me and i did, the first part of the night was about 1am for me where you kept saying "oi oi oi tasha what you doing sup". Then the first time you started flaming me was the part saying i have no friends, hardly initiated it in any way since you started the convo with me, then you started trying to get personal with me. Ezza can confirm all what he saw, and i've spoke to him and he believes that you were on the same level as us, i don't think ezza would  bother to lie about what he saw on my screenshare, so this is a problem with you shark for trying to deny what actually happened, you started the night by spamming my steam.

Messaging me saying "i love to annoy you, i want to make you rage hahahaha" is hardly the sort of behaviour i'd expect if you wanted me to do it just to ban sammi and put me on moderated, it's pretty pathetic behaviour if once you joke about this you then get all serious and act as if its inside ambrosia. But this hasn't happened one time, it's happened with another girl in the past too. history is obviously repeating its self for you, so either me and olive are awfully alike people even though i've never spoken to her, or it's something wrong in your side. this is why mcain made this in the first place, he didn't like it when you spoke to olive like that, and now you're talking to me and sammi like that. only difference is me and sammi are well prepared to defend ourselves and won't just sit down if someone flames at us, we flame back just for the fun of it, we had many giggles watching your insults come up, some of them were top-notch entertainment and were definitely 4chan material.

Arne you should know why him saying "meso was right you're a *******" annoyed me a bit more, i always get sick of that crap and then someone who i report this kind of behaviour too is there laughing in my face about it, pretty unreasonable and makes it clear not to trust that person again when it's just a joke for them. Shark it was clear you could dish it out, but as soon as me and sammi started dropping harsher words on you, you still carried on but then dished out punishments on the forum when sammi doesn't even use the forum and i had no reason to be moderated on the forum. it was completely unfair considering a) you had started the convo, B) you started the first insult and c) you talk to me like **** every day so why does it matter if i say a few harsh words back? it never mattered before. you never once told me to stop insulting you or to respect you, i however have told you to stop flaming at me many many times, but you would just laugh about it so there wasn't much more i could do apart from suck it up and flame back!

Anyways you got what you wanted, me and sammi are both gonna be done with this, this incident just proved how low you are, to sit flaming at us and then as soon as someone flames back you take it into the forum when it was obvious it was completely unfair after you had started it, sammi will always defend me if someones there infront of her insulting me and that's not something i ask her to do, but she will do it anyway. We took a lot of blame and a lot of crap for other peoples mistakes who never wanted to own up to their mistakes, somehow an abuse report on others would turn back on us acting as if we forced people to abuse. everything here is backwards if i'm honest and i doubt i'll find another community like it where the abusers are always supported and the ones who report are hated.

Not going to reply again, just wanted to respond to half of your lies there, you can't lie about things or tell me to do things when i had tried those things in the past, i had blocked you after you flamed me before and then you said id be demoted to ezza for cutting off communication with you, so that wasnt an option, i asked you to stop flame, but you didn't, you found it funny, i literally had no other options left other to ignore, but sometimes your english is so comical for me it was better to read it so i could have a few chuckles! See you on public.


cy@

[SharkX69]

Funny thing the way you say the story as you like. If we go in past yes you blockedme not cause I flamed you but you asked me do you like me? (as personality she meant it) and I said no and ousts hahaha and you were explode you were raged and you blocked me when all that happen it was an answer to your question. And I wasn't crying to add me back I just said ok you don't want to talk to me again? That's fine but when it's something that concerens the game and I'll ask you something you must answer me cause you were admin and if for example to an unban req asked you something you wouldnt answer me? You said no so yes I said if an ain didn't want at all to communicate me Shen it's needed I will demote you.
I'm not lying to anything here and you claim that I started it all but if we go more back you were the one that many times annoyed me on ste starting telling me things and complaining about everything and that I'm useless and I'm not doing my work but as you see I was ignoring you and let it go when I had all the reasons to rake actions on you in past.
But now your coming here to do what? Tell me that my English are not perfect? So what I never said they were. Telling me that I have issues when obviously you are the one that has?
Get yourself straight stop playing the victim here.

[tαshαღ]

I don't think i'd get mad because you said you didn't fancy me or whatever you're trying to imply, i did say i wanted you to stop talking to me like that and then you did flame at me because i think i showed mcain, and i definitely showed ezza, and i showed sammi, and i wanted to stop talking to you after that, but you refused to allow me to cut you off all communication and told ezza id be demoted. you don't have full communication with all your admins, they use PM, you didnt give me this option, i HAD to unblock you to stay as admin is what you were saying. I'm hardly playing the victim, i'm saying it from my side. Of course i'm not going to cry over what a 27 yr old greek man says to me. This thread wasn't made about me really anyway, it was to highlight that someone in your position shouldn't talk to people the way you do. Never in any time in CS adminning have i ever come across someone high up who flames, in fact usually theyre incredibly mature and would have their jokes but would never resort to flaming. You were in the wrong just as much as I was, you struggle to admit this though. I wasn't saying your english isn't perfect, i was saying your insults were funny because they were wrong. I'm sure if youve ever heard someone try to talk greek to flame but they get it completely wrong it's funny to you, no? Complaining about everything, i'd show you something, you'd completely ignore it, if i show arne or ezza it then they'd take it seriously. you ignored important things, if the fact ezza got a 10 day ban for saying "talk english" didn't make you wake up and realise that sometimes i had a slight point then i don't know what else would.


SharkX69: i bet you have no friends
SharkX69: meso was right you are a ******* and you prooved it with your great language hahahahaha
SharkX69: so stfu and go to sleep nerdy's
SharkX69: or play with your dildo
SharkX69: nah your both ugly
SharkX69: you are ***** dont forget that hahahaha
SharkX69: you are ugly you **** ****
SharkX69: hope you become a girl one day you *******
SharkX69: you are a pathetic little nerdy *******

This is the point of the thread, not issues between us, but the fact that you are so high up and you still talk to people like this. It isn't the first time mcain has made a thread like this either. Yep i flamed back, but you initiated it. Anyways, good luck shark, let's hope in future you dont make the mistake for the third time. "Once is a mistake, twice is stupidity."

[SharkX69]

Well listen because we can sit here and talking all day.
I said it was wrong from my side so I did admit it read previous posts.
I flamed cause I got flamed aswell and you keep saying your things.
If I'm mature I let the others to decide that and I believe they all have an opinion about it and not only from thus incident.
Things are simple.
Sammi was banned even tho she is unbanned and just moderated that's ok and you are moderated swell as for punishment for flaming an owner.
I did wrong too yes I admit it but I can't demote or moderate myself sorry. I would gladly accept any punishment if there was someone who could put me one but in this case there isn't so i can't do nothin about it but only teach myself something from this.
That's your punishment for you and sammi.
Take it or leave it and stop crying around about it.

[tαshαღ]

[SharkX69]

Trying to be smartass Tasha?

[Arne]

Well tbh, i'm not into replying on this topic. I've some difficult days, the past days and im not into fights. I just want to say, that i know that my english is rubbish. Some would rather me to shut up, than keep on listening to me. But i simply can't talk any better, i practise my english a lot, i keep or learning, i'm getting better every day, but please, please, dont talk about my english. Then i prefer, you dont talk to me at all.

Thnx

[Renegade]

Shark if you were a man and you were mature you should have locked and deleted this topic already. You are suppose to be the leader of this community, yet you pick on girls and flame people. That is called cowardice, hiding behind your rank and doing what you want because you are not gonna be punished, yet you punish others. If you are a man and the real leader of this community please try to be reasonable and don't hide behind your rank.

I don't know what they teach you in Greece but men who pick on girls are scum and *******

[Ezzα]

Tbh this should just be LOCKED

Arne - Your post was very very random LOL

Tasha/Shark - You both had your own points and we have all voiced our opinion on this subject although there was always going to be one winner on this regardless of right or wrong.

[Arne]

My post was random, but it had to be told. I'm getting a little bit fed up with these random sayings about my english.

[SharkX69]

Dear renegade I do not pick on girls and I don't flame people except this incident.
Funny thing you came to post here now after all this time you left.
And it dosnt have to do with girls and boys we are all equal and we get treated by our actions and not by being boy or a girl.
I didn't delete this topic cause if I were then you were saying that I'm trying to hide something.
And hiding behind my rank? Hehe I'm here for everyone I'm not hiding and I never played the boss around here. I speak with everyone as friends not as his boss.
This or that you would find something negative to say.
Anyway back to business guys.
Things staying as they are for now.

[ZwiGGy]

Didn't want to say anything on this matter but its becoming a joke now.
Here are some FACTS:

1. Two wrongs don't make a right.

Tasha is arguing she should not be punished because what Shark did was as bad.
Yes what shark did probably is as bad, but its his community, therefore punishing him is redundant and there is nothing we can do about it other than leave the community
if you don't agree with it.He has twice already admitted he was wrong to act the way he did and will (i trust) learn from his mistake.
Furthermore 90%+ of the community know Shark as a good and respectful guy.Nobody in the community (as far as i know) has a problem with him except Tasha and her small crew.

2. Tasha is hated by the majority of people she has come accross.

How does that work? Is everyone here retarded? What reasonable motivation does everyone have for hating her? At the end of the day this is just a game!!!
Its how we interact with each other which results in fights/arguements and abuse!
Tasha & co. will argue its because she is a girl and she reports people.
I will agree Tasha gets a lot of abuse for being a girl and does make enemies through reporting bad admins, but this by no means accounts for the vast number of people who have some problem with her (especially many of the high staff). Why are the other girls in our community liked and not her? (ie. Assassin girl, Cersei, ShaneZ etc...).
When it gets to the point where almost all the community want someone out, you just have to hold your hands up and admit...something isn't quite right here! Its never black and white with who is "wrong" and "right" but its pretty damn clear that community in general would be a lot happier without her!

3. Ezza...

Ezza I know you try to defend yourself and claim you are completely neutral and maybe you truely believe this, but take a step back and you see this cannot be the case.
Tasha has admitted you are her closest friend here, she has even said she loves you (as a friend) and she tells you EVERYTHING.
We also now know you check everything for her (ie. logs for any incident involving her).
If you try telling us your opinions are not biased you are not human. Its as simple as that. In any profession you would not be allowed to act as a neutral
observer and decision maker on matters revolving her. Be it in Law, Sport (eg. a Spanish ref in charge of a Spain game!), you name it, its not allowed in real life, so lets not kid ourselves
it should not be allowed here. You also justify her flaming by saying she is only defending herself but once again; two wrongs don't make a right!
You can't get people banned/demoted for flaming and then do it yourself! You say you have turned a blind eye on many people abusing in the past but im almost certain you turn a blind eye on times where Tasha misbehaves and rule breaks.
In fact in the discussions board it was a pretty much unanimous decision to demote Tasha on BB between all the high staff, yet this action never materialised and you were the only high staff against it who had an opinion on the matter (i am revealing this because she clearly already knows about this discuission!)
Don't get me wrong, I by no means think you should retire/resign because you are one of the most if not the most important members of the community
and you add so much value, but you just need to realise your opinion on this matter will be skewed in Tasha's favour, thats all I'm saying.

Finally my opinion based on experience, observation and the facts: Tasha gets a kick out of flaming and annoying other people. Its only natural when you spend all day
playing the game...theres only so much fun that can be had on CS before you get bored and just as she has vigilantly recorded so many players abusing and flaming and getting
them punished there is no way in hell you can tell me Tasha has not at some point done the same! Im not gonna state this as fact, because I have no proof, but I know Tasha has broken rules many many times as well, and I'm sure Ezza knows this also, so its no point acting like the victim in all this.
Tasha has succeeded so far because 1) she wins half her arguements because half the people
here can't speak english properly and 2) she is smart enough to behave well and orderly when she is being monitored but as soon as she can get away with (ie. on steam chat on non-ambrosia servers)
she will flame to her hearts content. Moreover she will do things that are almost unpublishable as they are so subtle yet clearly disrespectful to other players/admins. EG. threatening admins for "not doing their job" repeatedly (even though they are doing the best they can) or for example the incident where she disrespected Altamos yet it was not acknowledged by most highstaff.

I personally think Shark made the correct decision in demoting Tasha (who was meant to be demoted anyway following discussions between high staff) and Sammi should definitely be banned.
I don't understand why you unbanned her, she only plays on Ambrosia because of Tasha and all she does is act as Tasha's bouncer. Ie. Any conflict Tasha is involved in
(and as we know shes always in conflict), Sammi will come along and flame her head off to "defend" Tasha. She will normally escalate the insults/bullying even though she
is never involved in Tasha's arguements directly (as you saw with this Shark incident).

PS. I don't actually care about the outcome of this, I just felt people should know how things actually are and my opinion.
I would rather leave than see you leave Ezza because Im adding nothing to the community at this point! so don't take offense just try understand my points in an objective manner!