[UNBANNED]Killerftw

[Killerftw]

Name: Killerftw
SteamID: STEAM_0:1:52732590
Reason: Script
Date & Time: The time and date of this post, 2/6 - Time differs in timezone..
Admin : Kofeiini
Server: MultiMod

Other info: Kofeiini has no knowledge of the meaning of script, other admins such as SNap have told him before that it's not a script, he kept provoking me many times, and lot can support me in that, and now I have got banned.

And for whom asks, my bind has no aliases nor specials, just plain "wait" and "duck" and I press more than 1 key for the gstrafe.

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[Big Bob]

Thank you for posting an Unban Request. Shortly the Emperors shall review your unban request. Please in the meantime have patience and DO NOT ban evade (which means; you cannot play in any of our servers while banned), otherwise your request will be automatically DENIED. In the meantime read clearly the Unban Request Rules and check the Banlist to see the information on your ban. If the admin doesn't provide a demo or comment within 48h after you posted this unban request, then you'll go free and you'll be unbanned.

Regards,
The Ambrosian Emperors.

[Jorzki]

Hello!

I banned you because you're using gstrafe script.

Here is the demo: http://localhostr.com/files/GaMzlIQ/killerftwsogood.dem

edit: https://dl.dropbox.com/s/0rsxpy0znas2x1c/killerftwsogood.dem?dl=1
Dropbox link since some users couldn't download the demo.

[Killerftw]

Just define what gstrafe script means, and provide with example which works on Steam-Counterstrike please.

[Jorzki]

Just define what gstrafe script means, and provide with example which works on Steam-Counterstrike please.

With gstrafe script I mean groundstrafe script which is basically when player got instead of bind (bind mwheelup/down +duck) script where is included -duck and +duck commands.. And also to make it work needs to add wait commands between those. I'm not sure why you wanted me to provide exactly example for STEAM-counterstrike because steam and nonsteam are just the same game engine.. So what works on nonsteam will work on Steam also.

Best regards
Kofeiini

[Killerftw]

False information, a script is considered a script which contains alias such as :-

alias +cjump "+jump; +duck"
alias -cjump "-jump; -duck"

bind "space" "+cjump"

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And why a steam one? Because in non-steam you may put "special" command.

And if you would like, have anti-gstrafe script in the server, and I will be happily gstrafe in it .

[NexT]

I personally can't decide about this because i got no skills in such things but kofeiini got skills at hns and he knows well i'll ask highstaff if someone has such skills to figure out if you was scripting or no and then ask them to post there opinion ..

just wanted to say "alias" is blocked by steam it wont work on steam as an alias script but other scripts may work ..

about steam or non steam .. both of the versions has all kinds of hacks and scripts its nothing special ..

about adding anti gstrafe there is such thing that blocks the gstrafe and blocks the duck thing and i have seen it somewhere else its very bad , why are admins promoted to admins ? to catch hackers i wouldn't like such plugin

if i was wrong don't blame me because my skills are very low in such things.

[Killerftw]

I am not here to blame you, I am just here to correct you because I know that most of Ambrosia are so naive.

- Daniel & SNap have my bind because they asked for it, and they use it.
- Alias is not blocked at steam(or as far as I know since to be honest I had a buy-script to buy fast at mixes).
- Steam & Non-steam are different, the engine are not the same as Kofeiini said, HL1 engine yes, same version? No.
- I am not saying special scripts, I am saying there is command called "special", such as :

Code: [Select]

alias +bhop "alias _special jump;jump"
alias -bhop "alias _special"
alias jump "+jump;wait;-jump;wait;special"
bind "space" "+bhop"- Exolent's anti-gstrafe/bunnyhop blocks the scripts perfectly for SCRIPTS.
- You've said it yourself, admins are here for HACKERS, not Scripters since a script can be read through the server, you can know my whole config from rcon without any other plugin, so a plugin can detect such, there's no anti-hack because it's 3rd party program interfering in the input of the user.

I would like to add these also since you've mentioned "kofeiini got skills at hns and he knows" :-

- I cannot gstrafe in HNS.
- Gstrafe is HNS is 360 degree different than Soccerjam's for these reasons :-

1) Turbo.
2) Agility which increase the speed.
3) 999 Max speed default cvar in any Soccerjam server.
4) LongJump.


Done.

[NexT]

In the demo i saw a part which was made me look like wtf?!

once you was killed and you respawned you boost jumped and kept crouching al over the map from your spawn or goal to the another goal .. i haven't seen anyone doing such thing maybe you can goto half of the map but your too fast in crouching and i don't know how like you jump then slide all over the map ..for example snap knows how to play and never did such thing because its kinda impossible .. fragment knows how to play and never did such thing .. anumidis too and anappleaday knows too and i never seen 1 of them done such thing..

simple you make moves which know one does and about admins hackers = scripters in my opinion scripts is hack which admins should ban for i'll keep the unban or keep you banned decision to someone experienced in such thing which is higher than me

[Killerftw]

Don't compare me with SNap/Anumidis, anyone who only know how to boost jump isn't even close to me, I don't want to say I'm pro, I am just better, and there are lot better than me. (Burn anumidis and SNap), I have no idea about others you mentioned.

Check :-

- Stevko (old UC).
- Darkness
- Shaggo
- DotKill
- Even Daniel himself is not that bad at ducking.


Or maybe just go to a specific server and check how noob I am in it, I can't be compared with them, I wont post IP here, you want to see then add me on steam.

I haven't checked the demo, but please don't tell me it's Downunder map?

Edit: Checked the demo, was maxed agility and boostjump give great speed and had 160 FPS, easy.. SNap will feel humiliated for saying that he can't do that

[tajski]

had 160 FPS, easy..

Developer 1 on soccerjam? Even on HNS dev 1 in not allowed but.. Anyways, GG!

Regards,
.fragment

[Jorzki]

just wanted to say "alias" is blocked by steam it wont work on steam as an alias script but other scripts may work ..

Really it's not..


Killerftw: I'm not talking about some alias _special commands, you don't really need them to make scripts.

I don't understand why youre covering your actions behind some other members / BANNED USERS.

Shaggo


Anyways I've brought here now my reasons and proofs why I banned you, I belive higher rank will decide what to do with cheaters like this.

II. Gaining Advantage:

Players must not use any kind of cheat/hack/mod to gain an advantage over any other player. This will lead to a direct and permanent ban.

['PL']

Hello
Replica here, composer of the manual detection for scripting methods for amx_super.
Well killerftw, hackers,cheaters and scripters are different things.
A hacker is a person who penetrates and cause a server-sided technical problems using illegal software. These divide into kiddy scripters(hackers who don't make or construct their own programs) and the rest called Intermediate and professional hackers who work their life off developing fullproof exploiting software and selling them online with that accumulating capital and money
A cheater is a person using a injection program allowing him to gain a bigger advantage over the player. That also means that cheaters are people without any knowledge of hacking, but in the cs 1.6 environment they are found by the public name called "hackers"
A scripter is a person who uses scripting languages(coding can be also said) to develop programs or additions of to the platform they are scripting. Ex: "I script in the source engine"
2nd: A scripter is a person using illegal binds considered and banned from the regular player philosophy which in 80% of cases are recognized as cheaters. The scripting in the goldscr engine is commonly registered as cfg files who are shared and created from more advanced goldscr engine programmers knowing it's limits and boundaries. There are countless methods of detecting such illegal activity and usage by thirdparty programmers willing to create an automated bot who is able to check for the popular commands.
Killerftw eluded the query with alias_special, yes this command is permitted in the official cs 1.6 leagues, and considered abusive as it allows a number of commands to be preformed in a key translator that will work when pressed a simple key. The only thing different in bhop and gstrafe scripts are the +duck, and +space. That's true that alias_special doesn't work on steam anymore, but there plenty of otherwise to replace the function of alias_special. One of which is adding endless loops till your fingers get tired.

Still haven't watched the demo

P.S: If you install cs p48 is actually the same engine(ABSOLUTELY THE SAME AS A STEAM CS 1.6). So they developed more advanced scripts using injections like .dll and java in a console application. There is also a way to force the automated detector to memorize illegal key usage like timed actions on duck,space,shot. Even works on speedhackers and aimbotters very well.
I hope we have this thing cleared up

[Killerftw]

I am not covering up by other players, he mentioned players names, I mentioned mine.

Banned players? Shaggo cannot be arsed to do unban-appeal since he's bad in English and also he is admin on the 1st Soccerjam server in world, wont say name, just check gametracker yourself.



Advantage? Alright let me get you a realistic example for you to understand.

- Cooking contest -

There was ingredients for making Salad ( Tomatoes, Onions, Cucumber, Salt, Pepper).

Guy #1: Chopped up the veggys and served it.
Guy #2: Chopped the veggys and added salt and pepper.
Guy #3: Had the veggys ready before and added salt and pepper.


Guy #1 is any new player to Counterstrike which only use default binds.
Guy #2 is a guy like me who use normal commands and combine them in 1 bind.
Guy #3 is a guy who have Alias which are already a combined bind, then combine it with another bind.


Clear at Kofe's Post.

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@ Fragment, Soccerjam mod allows Developer since you need 200+ FPS for surfing.

@ Replica, didn't read it all very well, but hacker/cheater/scripter are different of what they are from Computer side to Gaming side.

Hacker: the usage of 3rd party programs to edit the interface/output of a player as Aimbot/Wallhack.
Scripter: as mentioned in Veggys example .

Cheater: the use of either scripts/hacks to have advantage which is out of the game ability.

[Mr-aNumiDiS]

had 160 FPS, easy..

Developer 1 on soccerjam? Even on HNS dev 1 in not allowed but.. Anyways, GG!

Regards,
.fragment

Dev1 is allowed on sj, I use it all the time when I wanna surf with 200 fps, if you're banning for dev1, then ban Valve also for making that command.

[Shane]

Dev 1 was designed for people who can not get a "decent" fps people who abuse it to get higher than needed or just abusing the command.

About the demo, in my opinion it is a script.

[Sight]

Dev 1 was designed for people who can not get a "decent" fps people who abuse it to get higher than needed or just abusing the command.

sv_cheats <boolean> Most cvars that affect gameplay, especially in multiplayer games, are flagged as "cheats". Submit sv_cheats 1 to unlock them.
Note:You will never be VAC banned for using built-in cheat commands.
 developer <0-2> Developer mode enables more verbose console output, enables cheats and the console automatically, and makes various other useful changes. If set to 2, the last few lines of console output will be printed at the top of the screen as well.

depending on how you say "Decent" it is not abusing, servers running 1000FPS should be abusive servers aswell including ambrosia

it is made for more output in the console, has nothing to do with FPS, just removes the 100FPS lock.

as for the demo i will watch it in a hour when i get home, just felt like posthing this since what trip said was not right

[Shane]

Dev 1 was designed for people who can not get a "decent" fps people who abuse it to get higher than needed or just abusing the command.

sv_cheats <boolean> Most cvars that affect gameplay, especially in multiplayer games, are flagged as "cheats". Submit sv_cheats 1 to unlock them.
Note:You will never be VAC banned for using built-in cheat commands.
 developer <0-2> Developer mode enables more verbose console output, enables cheats and the console automatically, and makes various other useful changes. If set to 2, the last few lines of console output will be printed at the top of the screen as well.

depending on how you say "Decent" it is not abusing, servers running 1000FPS should be abusive servers aswell including ambrosia

it is made for more output in the console, has nothing to do with FPS, just removes the 100FPS lock.

as for the demo i will watch it in a hour when i get home, just felt like posthing this since what trip said was not right

Do some more research it is considered an illegal command in most places.

And i was infact correct.

[Killerftw]

The bind is: "+duck;wait;-duck;wait" have it on 3 buttons which I press in a combo.

If you consider that as a script, then ban me already, and go and try the bind yourself with a good boostjump, if you can't boostjump you can't do half of it.

And I feel offended when you are having developer discussion in this unban request, developer 1 for me is to remove the limit of 100 fps, other than that, it's crap what you're talking about, if there's a command for it, you can use it; there is no rules for Counterstrike.

If a tournament or International league have it disabled, then it's a freaking tournament and they have their rules, I don't give a crap about that.



@ Trip, have you ever played Soccerjam? Please tell me you know how to longjump.

If you don't know Soccerjam then don't open your mouth, it's not only about passing and shooting via E.

['PL']

Calm down killerftw
That bind is also how a script works
And yes My IQ is Under 50 so u can call me a retard if you don't consider that bind as a script.