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Title: [UNBANNED][CS 1.6]Unban Request - Cowboy (Jailbreak) [UNBAN PANEL Nr.216]
Post by: Cowboy on June 30, 2015, 04:09:07 pm
Name: Cowboy
SteamID: STEAM_0:1:84856859 
Reason:wh.. :D :D
Date & Time: now
Admin: chaka
Server: JB
Have you been banned before: Yes.
Screenshot URL (Use tinypic.com):  (http://i61.tinypic.com/52xls8.jpg)
Other: u kidding right?, chaka i think u have to stop doing that shity things banning ppl  for "wh" while they are fkin clear.
u always checking me if i use script or not , i know that's ur job but its a bit annoying , like everytime i join the server u do that anyway lets see the demo.
Title: Huh!
Post by: Big Bob on June 30, 2015, 04:09:07 pm
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Title: Re: Huh!
Post by: 'PL' on June 30, 2015, 04:15:12 pm
Doesn't say reason on banlist, maybe it was a mistake :D
Title: Re: Huh!
Post by: Cowboy on June 30, 2015, 04:16:10 pm
Doesn't say reason on banlist, maybe it was a mistake :D
no its not , i know him he wanted to ban me from long time ago , cuz im better than him:P  ;D :D :D , lets seee..
Title: Re: Huh!
Post by: Cap$0l is the real KAWAIII on June 30, 2015, 04:16:24 pm
Doesn't say reason on banlist, maybe it was a mistake :D
but the screenshot wasnt
Title: Re: Huh!
Post by: 'PL' on June 30, 2015, 04:19:03 pm
As per ambrosia regulations, you can't ban administrators. So that would be a bit of abuse, I suppose he could have contacted a uc+ for suspicion and doing that through PM.
Title: Re: Huh!
Post by: CoiNNN on June 30, 2015, 04:20:56 pm
As per ambrosia regulations, you can't ban administrators. So that would be a bit of abuse, I suppose he could have contacted a uc+ for the demo or similar.


You can ban someone on server if they are not admin on the server.
 Cowboy is not admin on the server

^
Well atleast thats what I know


O.T: Its cowboy, skilled so I dont see any reason for him to be banned for "cheating" maybe just a small mistake from Ultor.
Title: Re: Huh!
Post by: 'PL' on June 30, 2015, 04:23:46 pm
As per ambrosia regulations, you can't ban administrators. So that would be a bit of abuse, I suppose he could have contacted a uc+ for the demo or similar.


You can ban someone on server if they are not admin on the server.
 Cowboy is not admin on the server

^
Well atleast thats what I know


O.T: Its cowboy, skilled so I dont see any reason for him to be banned for "cheating" maybe just a small mistake from Ultor.

There was a situation where I got banned in jailbreak and I was an administrator in surf which made the person who banned me suspended C:
Title: Re: Huh!
Post by: SouReJiaN on June 30, 2015, 04:24:10 pm
lol if he is hacking he surely will see the nades and the trees behind the wall ...
Title: Re: Huh!
Post by: 'PL' on June 30, 2015, 04:26:38 pm
lol if he is hacking he surely will see the nades and the trees behind the wall ...

Some wallhack injectors use a disguise kit for screenshots :)

Anyway, the rule says to not give opinions until the demo is supplemented, so I would ask the fellow ambroskis to hold on for the comments :)
Title: Re: Huh!
Post by: Critical on June 30, 2015, 04:28:00 pm
I don't think Cowboy is using any hacks though but I was with him in teamspeak and I heard cowboy saying "Huh what the hell" Just got banned by chaka on jb....

Let's wait for demo.
Title: Re: Huh!
Post by: Phenomenal on June 30, 2015, 04:38:39 pm
Doesn't say reason on banlist, maybe it was a mistake :D
I was there when the incident occurred, ultor said that he banned cowboy for wallhacking so it was not a mistake. I don't think a person with good reputation in ambrosia would wallhack to ruin all the years he has spent in here, but lets check the demo out when ultor will post it.
Title: Re: Huh!
Post by: Frank on June 30, 2015, 04:40:49 pm
Cowboy, you're my friend and all that but your behavior here is quite foul.
Just wait for the explanation and don't make these "cuz i'm better" statements, because everyone knows, even yourself, that that simply isn't true.
Ultor is a veteran admin, and even if you're banned from him, you have to respect his decision, i didn't say agree with it, but you have to respect it to a certain degree.

I do not believe that Ultor did anything to damage his reputation in this server since he joined, and i do not believe that the streak will end now.
If you're clean you're going to get unbanned, no reason to be nervous.
Title: Re: Huh!
Post by: Cowboy on June 30, 2015, 05:58:46 pm
Cowboy, you're my friend and all that but your behavior here is quite foul.
Just wait for the explanation and don't make these "cuz i'm better" statements, because everyone knows, even yourself, that that simply isn't true.
Ultor is a veteran admin, and even if you're banned from him, you have to respect his decision, i didn't say agree with it, but you have to respect it to a certain degree.

I do not believe that Ultor did anything to damage his reputation in this server since he joined, and i do not believe that the streak will end now.
If you're clean you're going to get unbanned, no reason to be nervous.
Oh, u wanna talk about behavior and respect, before u talk about my behavior lets talk about what he did.., abuse on other admin.. even tho IF i was cheating he has no rights to ban me, he just disrespected me and wasting my time.., after all these years he thinks i use hacks, HUH.
i'm not even interested i knew it, he did "+jump" many times on me and he told many admins that i use wh/script hmm.. after these years u think that i cant bhop?? if u cant that doesn't mean i use script i know that's your job but u failed many times and that mean i'm not using shits but u never end it and u kept doing it, PLEASE.
i wanna note this, some1 was using my nickname when i left ambrosia exactly when refresh was the head admin , i told  the admins and they didn't ban, they warned him then he changed his name "the real cowboy" then after few mins he changed it to cowboy.

waiting till he upload the demo, try to upload it fast as possible please.
Title: Re: Huh!
Post by: Phantoms on June 30, 2015, 06:40:14 pm
Cowboy, you're my friend and all that but your behavior here is quite foul.
Just wait for the explanation and don't make these "cuz i'm better" statements, because everyone knows, even yourself, that that simply isn't true.
Ultor is a veteran admin, and even if you're banned from him, you have to respect his decision, i didn't say agree with it, but you have to respect it to a certain degree.

I do not believe that Ultor did anything to damage his reputation in this server since he joined, and i do not believe that the streak will end now.
If you're clean you're going to get unbanned, no reason to be nervous.
Frank , your my friend before u talk about behavior can u explain why u came into our channel you , shiro and started to make fun out of our religion by disrespecting and saying "allahu akbar boom" , Dont talk about respect and behavior if u dont have 1% of it ;)
O.T : I Don't have anything against Ultor maybe there is some mis-understand about cowboy , the ss is clean I guess.
Title: Re: Huh!
Post by: Pim on June 30, 2015, 07:17:55 pm
For the record, even if the admin is not an admin on that particular server. We do not want admins to go around and ban them nevertheless, it takes a split second to report the admin to the report/unban panel (preferably unban since they are in better contact with emperors to make a final decision. Report panel ban will be taken to unban panel anyways)

Do not go around banning other admins, even if they are not admin on that server. They are not your regular warrior player. This is to avoid any trouble in the admin team
Title: Re: Huh!
Post by: 'PL' on June 30, 2015, 08:01:35 pm
Any admin is allowed to use +jump at any moment if he has the least and significant thought you are scripting. The problem is that it's a 3 year old method that has a way around it. And if a newcommer joins that uses bhop script whenever he goes, he usually will get busted before knowing the bypass of it. So Chaka followed what me and Onyz did every day on jailbreak when there were enough players. Even if you tested negative a bazilion times, you don't have to worry if you aren't scripting. The command does not give you a disadvantage as it's used when people are in the cage before the "serious" commanding starts. And I credit him for having creative ways to patch up the bypass method, yet +jump is not always somebody's jump key :(

And you didn't understand when i said, administrator abuse. The only command that is rather abuse-like is the ban, but any other command including kick is authorized as you are a ordinary player within the server as coin said. The only difference is when ban is used.
Title: Re: Huh!
Post by: Frank on July 01, 2015, 01:44:13 am
Cowboy, you're my friend and all that but your behavior here is quite foul.
Just wait for the explanation and don't make these "cuz i'm better" statements, because everyone knows, even yourself, that that simply isn't true.
Ultor is a veteran admin, and even if you're banned from him, you have to respect his decision, i didn't say agree with it, but you have to respect it to a certain degree.

I do not believe that Ultor did anything to damage his reputation in this server since he joined, and i do not believe that the streak will end now.
If you're clean you're going to get unbanned, no reason to be nervous.
Frank , your my friend before u talk about behavior can u explain why u came into our channel you , shiro and started to make fun out of our religion by disrespecting and saying "allahu akbar boom" , Dont talk about respect and behavior if u dont have 1% of it ;)
O.T : I Don't have anything against Ultor maybe there is some mis-understand about cowboy , the ss is clean I guess.
You're going waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay off-topic here. I know my limits, and i act to the situation accordingly.
Title: Re: Huh!
Post by: [C]asperTheOG on July 01, 2015, 02:21:34 am
Cowboy, you're my friend and all that but your behavior here is quite foul.
Just wait for the explanation and don't make these "cuz i'm better" statements, because everyone knows, even yourself, that that simply isn't true.
Ultor is a veteran admin, and even if you're banned from him, you have to respect his decision, i didn't say agree with it, but you have to respect it to a certain degree.

I do not believe that Ultor did anything to damage his reputation in this server since he joined, and i do not believe that the streak will end now.
If you're clean you're going to get unbanned, no reason to be nervous.
Frank , your my friend before u talk about behavior can u explain why u came into our channel you , shiro and started to make fun out of our religion by disrespecting and saying "allahu akbar boom" , Dont talk about respect and behavior if u dont have 1% of it ;)
O.T : I Don't have anything against Ultor maybe there is some mis-understand about cowboy , the ss is clean I guess.
You're going waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay off-topic here. I know my limits, and i act to the situation accordingly.
he's not going off-topic,u insult always and u think u're god damn funny by saying that.
Title: Re: Huh!
Post by: Phantoms on July 01, 2015, 02:25:53 am
Cowboy, you're my friend and all that but your behavior here is quite foul.
Just wait for the explanation and don't make these "cuz i'm better" statements, because everyone knows, even yourself, that that simply isn't true.
Ultor is a veteran admin, and even if you're banned from him, you have to respect his decision, i didn't say agree with it, but you have to respect it to a certain degree.

I do not believe that Ultor did anything to damage his reputation in this server since he joined, and i do not believe that the streak will end now.
If you're clean you're going to get unbanned, no reason to be nervous.
Frank , your my friend before u talk about behavior can u explain why u came into our channel you , shiro and started to make fun out of our religion by disrespecting and saying "allahu akbar boom" , Dont talk about respect and behavior if u dont have 1% of it ;)
O.T : I Don't have anything against Ultor maybe there is some mis-understand about cowboy , the ss is clean I guess.
You're going waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay off-topic here. I know my limits, and i act to the situation accordingly.
You are talking about cowboy behavior if some other guy said that i wouldn't mind but when u have a worse behavior then why u even mention , it wasn't an off topic read the last line ;)
Title: Re: [CS 1.6]Unban Request - Cowboy (Jailbreak) [Judge: CLAIMABLE]
Post by: Ray on July 01, 2015, 02:27:23 am
Let's stay on-topic here guys....
Let's just wait for Ultor to post his demo about this :)

@Ultor
Title: Re: [CS 1.6]Unban Request - Cowboy (Jailbreak) [Judge: CLAIMABLE]
Post by: Cowboy on July 01, 2015, 06:39:16 pm
this is taking ages..., @Ultor can you harry up??? ::)
you already checked the topic and u were playing.. comon no need to waste time.
Title: Re: [CS 1.6]Unban Request - Cowboy (Jailbreak) [Judge: CLAIMABLE]
Post by: Ray on July 01, 2015, 06:46:18 pm
this is taking ages..., @Ultor can you harry up??? ::)
you already checked the topic and u were playing.. comon no need to waste time.
He has 48 hours to post demo else you would be unbanned.
Title: Re: [CS 1.6]Unban Request - Cowboy (Jailbreak) [Judge: CLAIMABLE]
Post by: Ultor on July 01, 2015, 06:51:24 pm
Sorry about the late reply, been busy.

First of all, I did not know he was an admin, last time I seen his name was a member status. As for the ban, I already had 3 suspicious demos but unfortunately, as I reinstalled my cs I've lost them all. Now, the demo I recorded yesterday was meant to be an addition to the other 3 demos, I wouldnt ban based on 1 demo.

Cowboy, I execute the command +jump on everyone who appear to be suspicious to me, not just you- so this thing of 'hate' you're talking about is completely invalid.

As for the demo, I was guiding the T who escaped through the use of private message. What I found really suspicious at the beginning of the demo was how Cowboy kept his view on the missing T. You can see how he was prepared to kill the T as he was predicating that he was gonna open the door. The T did show and Cowboy failed to kill him, so he ran to the maze, and as you can see, the way he moved his crosshair just when he turned was really dodgy for me- it appeared like he was just waiting for him to show his face, he didnt even check his right side near the ladder. When the T did show is position, Cowboy tried to wallbang, and then kept his aim on the same place for around 2 seconds, then completely ignored his back- its like he was sure that the T went somewhere else. As you can see from his gameplay, Cowboy is is acting smart, he wouldnt go directly to the T. As Cowboy goes back to the cells area, he quickly rushs the other door, the T was hiding near the trampoline- Cowboy took a peek at his place and then went back to the cage area. Once his teammate was killed, he quickly goes to the roof, notice how the first thing he checked was the trampoline- he didnt see his teammates body or the gun apparently. It is weird how he took a peek at the ships- if he was using his radar, the he would be sure that the T would around the KZ. If you look closely at his crosshair, you can see that just after he dashed out from the roof, he aims on top of the wall, not the trees- to me it appears that his eyes were focussing on the T's location, he was telling himself "Ok, how can I get this T without showing my wallhack?".  After that, Cowboy shoots most of the trees near the KZ- again, trying to act smart even though he missed 3 trees over there. Notice how he stayed close to the trampoline area just in case that T tries to escape. As we move on, Cowboy progress into checking the other trees near the trampline now- however, what you notice from the demo is that he spends more time shooting more bullets on each tree even though he still missed 2 of them near the obstacle race. This was his plan of getting close to the T by shooting what appears possible places for the spectators. Note: he was doing all this without knowing the position of his teammate's body and gun. He then aims directly at the body and speaking on his mic says something like "ohh its the body" (didnt understand him properly). Now at this stage, it would only be obvious that the T is hiding somewhere near the trampoline. Just before Striker came out, Cowboy wanted to take a closer peek, hoping some part of the hidden T would show by going to the right side on top of the roof. Unfortunately nothing showed for Cowboy. He was having a hard time killing this T without being too obvious with his wallhack. I wish if that T followed what I said and kept hiding there, I wonder what Cowboy would have done to get there  ::)

Other things that I found suspicious:-

1. How he checks unrelavent areas of the hidden T-  checking the vent near Wipeout, going to the maze after that.
2. How he panics everytime he comes in contact with the missing T- e.g. look at how he nearly fell from the ladders, continuously failing to climb a ladder around the cage. A newbie can easily do that.
3. How he completely ignored the missing T and leaving his teammate outside alone after coming back from the roof to the cage.

Demo: (rar format) https://www.mediafire.com/?j585toibeueuj90 (https://www.mediafire.com/?j585toibeueuj90) (raw file) https://www.mediafire.com/?dw11iiivqsznng3 (https://www.mediafire.com/?dw11iiivqsznng3)
How to play the demo: join jailbreak server, type viewdemo Cowboy. Use the motion controls to check the validity of my analysis.

I request someone experienced in jailbreak to deal with this unban request rather than Dust2/Public players.
Title: Re: [CS 1.6]Unban Request - Cowboy (Jailbreak) [Judge: CLAIMABLE]
Post by: 'PL' on July 01, 2015, 07:07:48 pm
If watching in slow motion, I kind of see some weird crosshair placement with the combination of xspec. Anywho, I suppose we can wait on more opinions, I'll edit my post in what I think later. Supposing it goes unlocked for 4-5 hours.
Title: Re: [CS 1.6]Unban Request - Cowboy (Jailbreak) [Judge: CLAIMABLE]
Post by: WILLIE on July 01, 2015, 07:22:13 pm
Well it is wallhack if you ask me, he keeps watching the same area waiting for him to show up, didnt even check the rest of the map.
Title: Re: [CS 1.6]Unban Request - Cowboy (Jailbreak) [Judge: CLAIMABLE]
Post by: Frank on July 01, 2015, 07:36:20 pm
If you see it from a psychological side, he was really pissed off that he got banned. As far as i know him, he wouldn't even raise his voice if this happened, which is really indicates on suspicious behavior. He's in a state of denial, not only does he reject Ultor's decision and opinion, he's being quite intrusive about it, the over-exaggeration of his impulsive behavior is really abnormal for his character.

Since i really don't know much about wallhacking or how to spot one i thought i can pitch in like this, the thing i'm experienced with. I know that my opinion on this subject doesn't matter, so don't take it too seriously. (not like you would)
Title: Re: [CS 1.6]Unban Request - Cowboy (Jailbreak) [Judge: CLAIMABLE]
Post by: SouReJiaN on July 01, 2015, 07:39:15 pm
he is clean no hacks .. watch carefully and focus
Title: Re: [CS 1.6]Unban Request - Cowboy (Jailbreak) [Judge: CLAIMABLE]
Post by: Frank on July 01, 2015, 07:41:27 pm
he is clean no hacks .. watch carefully and focus
The thing is, this doesn't work like that, you need to explain his behavior, pitch the arguments that show that he is, it's the only way to help. Saying just focus isn't really saying much.
Title: Re: [CS 1.6]Unban Request - Cowboy (Jailbreak) [Judge: CLAIMABLE]
Post by: Cowboy on July 01, 2015, 07:45:10 pm
@Ultor , that was a nice story i really enjoyed my time while im ready what u were thinking about.

look at this ss i saw him before he hide there and before i try to wallband him.
(http://i58.tinypic.com/4vlsmg.jpg)

the second one as u can see there's 2 bodys..., thats why i start checking soccer field and kz and evrything beside the trampoline..
btw there a reader... thats why i went to trampoline when my teamamate died.., if u used to play with bots thats not my fault.
(http://i61.tinypic.com/dzdlcj.jpg)

and shaking the crosshair was randomly even i didn't aim at him once, PLEASE.
Title: Re: [CS 1.6]Unban Request - Cowboy (Jailbreak) [Judge: CLAIMABLE]
Post by: BuddyTrollsten on July 01, 2015, 07:50:40 pm
He seems clean.
When he was turning around , he saw the enemy!
Even I would have seen the enemy. The door is WIDE open and there is something out of place, you can see his legs. Cowboy is a skilled player so of course he saw that.
When one person escaped from the cage or wherever and was going near the trampoline, cowboy of course knew either cause of teammate contact or because he simply heard him.
(I can't hear microphone in demo). He heard the door open and he killed the guy while he was climbing the ladder cause climbing the ladder makes a lot of noise.
Cowboy probably used the radar for this one, when your teammate dies the radar shows an X, using the radar he knew the enemy would be hiding near the trampoline area, I would also know because it's simple game sense and use of radar.
When the enemy ran towards the tree, cowboy was shooting at him cause he saw him go there but as you can see when he was coming out cowboy wasn't shooting at him but way far away from him at the left side of the tree, cause he thought maybe he's hiding at that side.If he was wallhacking he would not even shoot at the left side when the enemy was coming out cause he would know.
In my opinion he's clean.
If you want to argue about this come to ts3 and we can talk.
Good luck.
Title: Re: [CS 1.6]Unban Request - Cowboy (Jailbreak) [Judge: X]
Post by: X-KilleR on July 01, 2015, 08:00:27 pm
Your appeal is being reviewed
by
Ambrosia Unban Panel
Your case number is: [216]
(http://oi43.tinypic.com/33caclx.jpg)
Title: Re: [CS 1.6]Unban Request - Cowboy (Jailbreak) [Judge: CLAIMABLE]
Post by: Ultor on July 01, 2015, 08:11:47 pm
Your appeal is being reviewed
by
Ambrosia Unban Panel
Your case number is: [216]
(http://oi43.tinypic.com/33caclx.jpg)

I did request this to be reviewed by an experienced JB player...

Quote
I request someone experienced in jailbreak to deal with this unban request rather than Dust2/Public players.

@Cowboy You're not even explaining properly. The first screenshot is not relevant, at that stage, re-read my post for my analysis. As for the second screenshot, you did not see the body and this was proven later in the demo by you saying "ohh its the body"- so at this stage your eyes still did not spot the bodies neither the gun. As for the radar, there are many things that prove you did not use it. For example, why did you aim at the ships when you were on the roof? The third screenshot, your what you call "shaking aim" was not random, your eyes were on the hidden T not your crosshair. Experienced players keep their eyes on their crosshair, therefore the crosshair should be on everything you suspect. You're not even justifying your action, you just taken 3 random screenshots out of a 100.
Title: Re: [CS 1.6]Unban Request - Cowboy (Jailbreak) [Judge: X]
Post by: Cowboy on July 01, 2015, 08:25:12 pm
you talking like u are sure like u were playing with me in the same room.. lol.
mby u are blind and u need glasses (no offense) , i dont know how u didnt see the first guy in the first screenshot, and about the second screenshot i saw the body's+ radar... thats enough to let me check everything beside the trampoline.
Title: Re: [CS 1.6]Unban Request - Cowboy (Jailbreak) [Judge: X]
Post by: Ultor on July 01, 2015, 08:35:06 pm
you talking like u are sure like u were playing with me in the same room.. lol.
mby u are blind and u need glasses (no offense) , i dont know how u didnt see the first guy in the first screenshot, and about the second screenshot i saw the body's+ radar... thats enough to let me check everything beside the trampoline.

You have some reading issues. You need to read both of my posts carefully.
Title: Re: [CS 1.6]Unban Request - Cowboy (Jailbreak) [Judge: X]
Post by: Cowboy on July 01, 2015, 08:40:35 pm
you talking like u are sure like u were playing with me in the same room.. lol.
mby u are blind and u need glasses (no offense) , i dont know how u didnt see the first guy in the first screenshot, and about the second screenshot i saw the body's+ radar... thats enough to let me check everything beside the trampoline.

You have some reading issues. You need to read my both of my posts carefully.
you are using ur brain in bad ways that's why u thinking i'm using hacks, mr imagination, imagining things that never happened. u have a problem in ur brain thinking that most of the good players are using hacks. check out how many players got ban from u for "wh" while they are clean. anyway lets wait for highstaff.
Title: Re: Re: [CS 1.6]Unban Request - Cowboy (Jailbreak) [Judge: X]
Post by: [C]asperTheOG on July 01, 2015, 09:03:08 pm
Its 100% clean i don't see anything makes him wallhacker i checked it many times and properly when he saw ct body next to the trampoline he knew that the rebeller is over there.
Title: Re: [CS 1.6]Unban Request - Cowboy (Jailbreak) [Judge: X]
Post by: Jihad on July 01, 2015, 09:14:33 pm
as buddy said  hes clean any one could see the t
and cowboy is a skilled and pro player even the bot can see the door is wide dude
doesn't explain the ss that hes using any kind of cheats
HE IS CLEAN FFS
and mr ultor you can put your philosophate away.

that's it and he's clear every body knows it.
the end of the story
Title: Re: [CS 1.6]Unban Request - Cowboy (Jailbreak) [Judge: X]
Post by: Ray on July 01, 2015, 09:22:33 pm
as buddy said  hes clean any one could see the t
and cowboy is a skilled and pro player even the bot can see the door is wide dude
doesn't explain the ss that hes using any kind of cheats
HE IS CLEAN FFS
and mr ultor you can put your philosophate away.

that's it and he's clear every body knows it.
the end of the story
There's a panelist checking the case for this. It's not your job to tell ultor what to do.
Ultor did his job and he's saying what his opinion about it.
And it's not yours to judge if it's the end of the story or not.
So please, if you want to give your opinion, you're free to do that, but you can ONLY DO THAT and nothing else.
Respect the admin team as they are trying to help the server.

Cheers,
Ray
Title: Re: [CS 1.6]Unban Request - Cowboy (Jailbreak) [Judge: X]
Post by: Cowboy on July 01, 2015, 09:23:44 pm
Well it is wallhack if you ask me, he keeps watching the same area waiting for him to show up, didnt even check the rest of the map.

aha, just one thing haters gonna hate.
just wanna note this, we fighted before half a year that's why u came here and said "yes he is wallhacking", if you are experience in smth dont talk about it please.
thanks Andrew for telling me to post this almost forgot it.


as buddy said  hes clean any one could see the t
and cowboy is a skilled and pro player even the bot can see the door is wide dude
doesn't explain the ss that hes using any kind of cheats
HE IS CLEAN FFS
and mr ultor you can put your philosophate away.

that's it and he's clear every body knows it.
the end of the story
There's a panelist checking the case for this. It's not your job to tell ultor what to do.
Ultor did his job and he's saying what his opinion about it.
And it's not yours to judge if it's the end of the story or not.
So please, if you want to give your opinion, you're free to do that, but you can ONLY DO THAT and nothing else.
Respect the admin team as they are trying to help the server.

Cheers,
Ray

helping the server while hes banning another admin, helping the server while hes imagining things that never happened?? wow.
Title: Re: [CS 1.6]Unban Request - Cowboy (Jailbreak) [Judge: X]
Post by: supertomi on July 01, 2015, 09:34:06 pm
Ultor clearly said at the begging that he did not knew you was an admin.
Anyways, i may not have the best relationship with Cowboy and hes probably gonna call me a hater now but it looks like wh to me.
Well it was pretty obvious that he had no idea that hes teammates body was there as he didn't looked at it at all only at the last few secs from the demo, however he also did not checked other places, he just took a fast at look at the ships and at the kz but he was mostly checking the trampoline... And i repeat it was obvious that Cowboy did not knew that hes teammates body was there! So there is no way you come up now saying i saw hes body which you didn't or say it was the raddar which you obviously didn't checked.
Title: Re: [CS 1.6]Unban Request - Cowboy (Jailbreak) [Judge: X]
Post by: Cowboy on July 01, 2015, 09:48:30 pm
It's so fkin obvious dude, u are the only 2 who said im using wh because we fighted before.
i repeat the radar is the most important thing in the game if u don't use it its not my problem.. i did see the body's and i used the radar no matter how i was moving my crosshair i did see them.
Title: Re: [CS 1.6]Unban Request - Cowboy (Jailbreak) [Judge: X]
Post by: Koray on July 01, 2015, 09:51:03 pm
Can we all just shut the fuck up and wait for this to be solved?
Title: Re: [CS 1.6]Unban Request - Cowboy (Jailbreak) [Judge: X]
Post by: supertomi on July 01, 2015, 09:55:44 pm
No, it's not obvious as in the end you kept starring at the dead body, you was like "how didn't i saw that?"..
Title: Re: [CS 1.6]Unban Request - Cowboy (Jailbreak) [Unban Panel]
Post by: CoiNNN on July 01, 2015, 10:06:14 pm
Ive watched the demo and seriously dont see anything wrong.

1/2 shaky moments but I am sure its nothing to do with Cowboy hacking.
Title: Re: [CS 1.6]Unban Request - Cowboy (Jailbreak) [Unban Panel]
Post by: X-KilleR on July 01, 2015, 11:12:45 pm
@utor ,unban panel will judge this case, your job is to upload the demo and share your opinion, all the panel members are qualified and experienced players
Title: Re: [CS 1.6]Unban Request - Cowboy (Jailbreak) [Unban Panel]
Post by: supertomi on July 01, 2015, 11:43:38 pm
It can be, why not? He cheated before I guess as a player and he can do it again as an admin.

We need demo to check it. :D
Demo is already posted :D
Title: Re: [CS 1.6]Unban Request - Cowboy (Jailbreak) [Unban Panel]
Post by: ~RoN on July 02, 2015, 12:17:36 am
Hey all,

As an ex unban panelist and experienced jailbreak player i would like to give my opinion in this case. I have watched the demo and every step of what ultor said. Well my opinion is that there are some supicious moments but that can't really get a person banned for that since the demo proves certein moments as WH but most of the time its logic to follow those steps. Since cowboy also play's for years in jailbreak so i guess he know's where to go and what to follow. But for me the demo can't really prove much and a guy can not get banned only for 2 or 3 moments it could have been luck or he followed the death of the ct in radar. So for me he is not cheating in those demo's. But as we all know now this is up to the majority that will vote in unban panel. I wish you good luck.

And another thing cowboy if you continue this behavior even if you got banned i am really sure that the unban panel will punish you for the behavior you have here in forums. Please even if you got banned respect the decision of the admin that banned you, because maybe he made a mistake and maybe he didn't in the eyes of unban panel. So take a deep breath and chill.  ;)

Regards,
RoN
Title: [UNBANNED][CS 1.6]Unban Request - Cowboy (Jailbreak) [UNBAN PANEL Nr.216]
Post by: X-KilleR on July 03, 2015, 03:01:51 pm
after checking both demo and screenshot, unban panel has decided to unban admin cowboy, we see only logic moves ,the player knows how to use radar, and knows the map, plus the screenshot is clean.
UNBANNED