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Recycling => National Archives => Off-Topic Archive => Topic started by: Pringles on February 21, 2015, 03:32:40 pm
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Are you a theist or atheist ?
The purpose of this thread is to let you share your beliefs to the rest of the community.
The idea of the topic came after a debate which occurred in the shoutbox between some members (including me) and I thought that it could be a good idea to see other people's point of view regarding this case.
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Do you believe in "God" ? Why ?
Do you believe in any religion ? (If yes, what religion ?) Why (example : my parents believe in the same religion as me)
What is your point of view regarding Science and do you make a link between the religion you believe in and Science ?
Any other additional information ?
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Do you believe in "God" ? Why ? No. Because there's no actual proof God exists. I want scientific proof.
Do you believe in any religion ? (If yes, what religion ?) Why (example : my parents believe in the same religion as me) Not really.
What is your point of view regarding Science and do you make a link between the religion you believe in and Science ? Yes. I believe whatever science discovers about the beginning of the world.
Any other additional information ? Religion was created as a law to keep people in peace. That's my opinion.
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Do you believe in "God" ?Nope Why ? Tricky question :-X
Do you believe in any religion ?Nope,My family follows HinduismWhy:Concept of multiple religion is quite stupid according to me(no offense).Many of the riots and wars taking place today are due to difference in people's faith and believes
What is your point of view regarding Science and do you make a link between the religion you believe in and Science ?Nop
Any other additional information ? some extremists people(leaders) must understand that we are human beings and we must live in peace and harmony
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Do you believe in "God" ? Why ?: No. The concept of an omnipotent, omnipresent omni-fuckall being is just ridiculous to me. And if it exists, why doesn't it help its own creation. It's like growing a plant and not giving a shit if its suffering of dehydration or something else.
Do you believe in any religion ? (If yes, what religion ?) Why (example : my parents believe in the same religion as me): I don't believe in any religion, although my family technically believes in Catholicism. No idea why, lol.
What is your point of view regarding Science and do you make a link between the religion you believe in and Science ?:: Science is great and can teach you many fascinating things. Maybe there is a link between Science and Religion but I highly doubt it, but after all only time will reveal such things.
Any other additional information ?:
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Do you believe in "God" ? yes,ofc Why ? okay how many reasons you want? first of all : Just take a look of these natures. who would create these? can a human do this? Nope. Only the creator ( ALLAH) can. another thing, you. your body, lets talk about the Heart, the heart pumps 7200L of blood daily,the kidney,the eyes, my point is can a human make such things like this? nope. The universe, Atheist's say that universe was made by coincidence. so all those galaxies were made by itself.. Unbelievable.
Do you believe in any religion ?yes (If yes, what religion ?) Islam Why (example : my parents believe in the same religion as me) Islam is the religion which leads you to the heaven, why do you think america hate Islam and standing against it, because its the religion of truth. Islam isn't that hard, you just gotta follow the religion's rules.( Like praying and reading AL-Qur'an, and alot of good things)
What is your point of view regarding Science and do you make a link between the religion you believe in and Science ? yup I already mentioned them above.
Any other additional information ? thanks god that I'm muslim and arabic, cuz I'm named after the prophet Mohammed.
Believe me this is the religion of truth.
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Do you believe in "God" ? Why ? Yes and No, Im not really deep into religion anymore, I used to be because my parents grew me up like that but after growing up people will change their minds, I do believe there is a god, and I do know that I'm making a mistake by not following it. Main reason I cant give up on religion is actually because of my family, lol.
Do you believe in any religion ? Yes(If yes, what religion ?) Islam Why (example : my parents believe in the same religion as me) My parents are one of the reasons since I grew up with it, and if I had to choose any religion between all of them it would be Islam aswell since it IS the only religion wich will let you rest and take a break from life (by praying) wich the others besides budhism dont.
What is your point of view regarding Science and do you make a link between the religion you believe in and Science ? I dont really give 2 shits if they have something regarding between them, we should live our lifes as we got them and live it out.
Any other additional information ? adfsghjhgfkfdsjhfdsjhofdsaj .-.
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Do you believe in "God" ? Why ?Yes/Well there is many many reasons, but lets look for an example to the earth, and the sun, and the stars (billions and much more), and galaxies, all of them swim in the space, However, there is no clash between them, the earth revolves around the sun in its own orbit, The earth revolves around itself, consists the day and night,have we ever heard for once that the day or night didn't come at its usual time? there must be a great creator, who did all of this and more, so according to the math "The more complicated things, have a little chance to be created by accident" so yes i say there is a great god who create universe.
Do you believe in any religion ? (If yes, what religion ?) Why (example : my parents believe in the same religion as me)yes (Islam), Well ofc the family is the main reason, but as i have stated, when i grown up i started to think about it which i found its a logic.
What is your point of view regarding Science and do you make a link between the religion you believe in and Science ? I do like and accept the science/ and i do link between them as i have stated.
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Do you believe in "God" ? Why ?: Yes i do, let me give u one reason besides the reasons written above by pato,we all know that dinosaurs used to live before human even existed right, but how do u think human were created ? they cant just appear from nothing, they all started from one man and a woman named Adam and Hawa, this simply proves that there's a god that created all this.
Do you believe in any religion ? (If yes, what religion ?) Why (example : my parents believe in the same religion as me)yes, it's islam i've grown up with it as i 've studied it, i find it the right one since only leads u to do good things makes u live ur life in a better way unlike the other religions i dont think any of them even makes sense to me, like taking a human being that had an ending life as a god to you, and praying in front of their imagery, that just doesnt fit in mind at all.
What is your point of view regarding Science and do you make a link between the religion you believe in and Science ?: there are scientists who turned out to become muslims due to finding out facts about the world so ye..
Any other additional information ?: i've known an american friend that recently joined islamic religion after studying enough about it, it's actually a girl that did, so maybe give it a shot and you might find some results.
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Do you believe in "God" ? - Why ? -
Do you believe in any religion ? (If yes, what religion ?) Why? -
What is your point of view regarding Science and do you make a link between the religion you believe in and Science ? Totally yes
Any other additional information ? Maybe you believe there is no god, maybe you think big bang created us all. Think for a minute, replace big bang with straw. Dont we need a sparkle to make fire? Big Bang was materia, but it also needed energy to react and explode. But, do you know that energy? Maybe that is the thing some people call god, maybe we are gods of ourselves or maybe....
Why doesnt our god help us?: How do you think we have all this technology, why do you think that monkeys (or whatever that specie is) were choosen to rule the world? who choose them? who triggered big bang (or whatever created materia)? Somehow, everyone believes at something, but they just name it differently. And, how can we know that if we are stuck in 3D? What are other dimensions? Is time one of them? You may ask urself what the heck does this have to do with the topic, well, im linking religions with science
Once I saw a movie (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vxOhd4qlnA) which somehow explained us. And, maybe this will answer some of your questions.
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Do you believe in "God" ? Why ? No , simply because books falling from the sky , Ewa or whatever eating an apple and becoming with 2 buttcheeks and all that stuff seems so stupid to me and very hard to believe.
Do you believe in any religion ? (If yes, what religion ?) Why (example : my parents believe in the same religion as me) I was a muslim when i was young because my family was so.
What is your point of view regarding Science and do you make a link between the religion you believe in and Science ? Whatever science says , i believe in.
Any other additional information ? - To people saying Adam and Ewa or whatever were the first 2 humans to live on earth and our origin is them.
People come from apes , read biology. Even if Adam and Ewa were the first 2 , lets say they had 4 kids or even more , did they have sex with each other to keep the line going ? Since that seems very unbeliavable to me , and kinda perv.
About the Earth not clashing in the sun, it's called Gravity , read Physics.
If God actually existed , why do you have to bow and pray to him 5 times a day , what is the need of this? Why do human have to starve , die by hunger or thirst? Why is there cancer ? Why does a 12 year old kid get sick of cancer ? Why is a baby abandoned on a trash can ? Even if there is a god , to me he seems either very stupid or he hates us a lot for doing such things to us.
This makes more sense to me , and explains my thoughts :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-suvkwNYSQo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-suvkwNYSQo)
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Do you believe in "God" ? Why ?: Yes, who wouldn't? I believe in great Allah.
Do you believe in any religion ? (If yes, what religion ?) Why (example : my parents believe in the same religion as me) Muslim, most realistic.
What is your point of view regarding Science and do you make a link between the religion you believe in and Science ? They say there is no god in this world, they say there is no hell or heaven in this world. Yet, I still am confused to understand why some people believe this. Think about it once more, all of our senses are perfect, imagine if our smell was bait more? We would be able to smell every little thing which would be disturbing. Imagine our eye sight, if we can see more, it would not be nice for the nature of the human vision. Imagine we can hear more? We would hear every little thing that goes on which we won't be able to sleep. Everything is nearly as perfect for a human, well was this all a coincidence? NO obviously not, not too many things can be coincidence can it.
Imagine the world, the ozone layer, if there was non, humans would be dead but how comes there is?
There have been many people which die and come back to life in minutes/hours, many quotes show that they have seen someone whilst dead showing them a route or so to hell / heaven. I guess they are all lying then? NO.
Any other additional information ?
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What is your point of view regarding Science and do you make a link between the religion you believe in and Science ? They say there is no god in this world, they say there is no hell or heaven in this world. Yet, I still am confused to understand why some people believe this. Think about it once more, all of our senses are perfect, imagine if our smell was bait more? We would be able to smell every little thing which would be disturbing. Imagine our eye sight, if we can see more, it would not be nice for the nature of the human vision. Imagine we can hear more? We would hear every little thing that goes on which we won't be able to sleep. Everything is nearly as perfect for a human, well was this all a coincidence? NO obviously not, not too many things can be coincidence can it.
Imagine the world, the ozone layer, if there was non, humans would be dead but how comes there is?
Any other additional information ?
I'm sorry for breaking the topic , but this seems non-sense to me. How do you know our senses are perfect ? Does any living human have these "abilities" and say they are bad? No , since no such human exists , and therefore we cannnot know if it is better or not. Think about it..
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the question is:
who created science? laws? it complexity? optic ?aerodynamic ,physics, gravity,quantum astro etc?
men are just understanding science, science was here with it laws before us, we just obey to science, it laws and limits ,and we are still amazed by it and still discovering......who or what this genius being who created all this? this is the real question...
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the question is:
who created science? laws? it complexity? optic ?aerodynamic ,physics, gravity,quantum astro etc?
men are just understanding science, science was here with it laws before us, we just obey to science, it laws and limits ,and we are still amazed by it and still discovering......who or what this genius being who created all this? this is the real question...
Alright , let's assume God created all this that we see , but then the question comes , who created God ?
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the question is:
who created science? laws? it complexity? optic ?aerodynamic ,physics, gravity,quantum astro etc?
men are just understanding science, science was here with it laws before us, we just obey to science, it laws and limits ,and we are still amazed by it and still discovering......who or what this genius being who created all this? this is the real question...
Alright , let's assume God created all this that we see , but then the question comes , who created God ?
Then WHO created the creator of god? When will you stop? I can say too WHO created thé creator of the creator of god?! you will always find only one at the end ;)
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the question is:
who created science? laws? it complexity? optic ?aerodynamic ,physics, gravity,quantum astro etc?
men are just understanding science, science was here with it laws before us, we just obey to science, it laws and limits ,and we are still amazed by it and still discovering......who or what this genius being who created all this? this is the real question...
Alright , let's assume God created all this that we see , but then the question comes , who created God ?
Then WHO created the creator of god? When will you stop? I can say too WHO created thé creator of the creator of god?! you will always find only one at the end ;)
Lol, when you were young, you wonder who created you, after you found out that u were born by your mother then you wondered who created your mother? I guess we are in the first position.
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the question is:
who created science? laws? it complexity? optic ?aerodynamic ,physics, gravity,quantum astro etc?
men are just understanding science, science was here with it laws before us, we just obey to science, it laws and limits ,and we are still amazed by it and still discovering......who or what this genius being who created all this? this is the real question...
Alright , let's assume God created all this that we see , but then the question comes , who created God ?
we all ask ourselves this question, but think about it , what does god mean? The creator the only one. god is not the same as his creatures. Means hes not a human as us , doesnt eat doesnt sleep , doesnt mate .only 1 god exists.
Hope you get it.
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How was the first human being created on earth? It can't be some explosion big bang theory Shit that everyone thinks because that ridiculous. There's a creator.
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What is your point of view regarding Science and do you make a link between the religion you believe in and Science ? They say there is no god in this world, they say there is no hell or heaven in this world. Yet, I still am confused to understand why some people believe this. Think about it once more, all of our senses are perfect, imagine if our smell was bait more? We would be able to smell every little thing which would be disturbing. Imagine our eye sight, if we can see more, it would not be nice for the nature of the human vision. Imagine we can hear more? We would hear every little thing that goes on which we won't be able to sleep. Everything is nearly as perfect for a human, well was this all a coincidence? NO obviously not, not too many things can be coincidence can it.
Imagine the world, the ozone layer, if there was non, humans would be dead but how comes there is?
Any other additional information ?
I'm sorry for breaking the topic , but this seems non-sense to me. How do you know our senses are perfect ? Does any living human have these "abilities" and say they are bad? No , since no such human exists , and therefore we cannnot know if it is better or not. Think about it..
So you think having better smell sense is better? Smelling every little thing around you?
So having a better vision seeing every single cell is better?
So hearing every little thing is better? Listening to little rats crawling in your garden
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Not going to lie, this topic is going t cause shit.
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Do you believe in "God" ? Why ?
I don't believe in any deity of any form that is the reason of the origin of the world and humankind.
My reasoning of why I cease to utilize a belief system is because I don't need a "Being" to tell me ethical and moral values which are just shadows of psychological and emotional pressure. And in the Modern age, almost every phenomenon (be it paranormal or "difficult to attain a ontological mechanism for it") has been explained whose people that explained have been accepted as noted in thousands of student books that you forget and never need to remind yourself of. The teachers who you despise so much give you knowledge beyond recognition because in the modern age they don't use some "GOD" to tell you that Grass Grows because of him. Compare that to other periods of history where teachers were forcefully told to put "him" everywhere.
The problem with a belief system is that the followers cannot stop themselves from using it any public place where you are suppose to respect everybody, however conversations and dialogs always include it somewhere that implicates they are poor in language or couldn't bother themselves to sit more in front of a book.
Do you believe in any religion ? (If yes, what religion ?) Why (example : my parents believe in the same religion as me)
I don't believe in any Religion, I have a certain "difficult" to elaborate philosophy composed of Satanical and (Mostly) Nihilistic ideas. In (LaVeyan) satanism they don't tell you that a being is responsible for your creation and the world, they tell you that you shouldn't pray to somebody for your sins and crimes and try to get them forgiven. Better yet, You are the one who has to do something, you are the one who has to make your life good. Not wait for a being to judge how much you prayed to him. The Nihilistic part is rather more dominant in my philosophy and it tells that you don't need to or you can't understand the universe at this moment because it's just there for no reason.
What is your point of view regarding Science and do you make a link between the religion you believe in and Science ?
Science is nice, and It would be funny if you try to link Science with Religion when they both contradict each other.
Any other additional information ?
Yes, I love Octopuses and Spaghetti Monsters
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Do you believe in "God" ? Why ?
I will take a general but also a personal approach on this one. Basically what i honestly think.
People find the need to believe that there is a "God" for many reasons but their believe in "God" comes also by the influence of people and environment around.
- The idea that there might be someone up there who looks after us every second , just thinking about this puts a big smile on our face (makes us happy) & makes us feel protected.
- When we feel hopeless about a particolar problem & we think that only a miracle can save us but also because we find it easier to pray then to do something actually ourself.
- Being afraid of death and instead of thinking that when we die we will simply dissapper like we never existed , we think that there is a god and after death we will go to a better place.
- Being raised in a religious family
I simply listed some a few reasons but they are a lot.
If you decribe/think that "God" is such great & loves us so much , then where is he when:
- Little kids are getting raped & killed
- Kids starving for food
- Kids abbandoned on the streets
- Homeless people suffering every single day
- There is so much sickness , poverty , death & violence.
You know what i hate most?
When i pass an exam and people tell me it was gods will or it was writen whatever. I would say no it wasn't gods will nor it was writen , it was me. I studied my ass off for 6 months straight that's why i passed. Lets see if i go to exam without touching a single book & say its god will and i will pass , that doesn't make sense right.
There was a news that i read a while ago about a little girl born deaf and her hearing was restored after implenting an aparature inside her ear. Everybody was saying that its a miracle , thats so fucking dumb. Its not a miracle , its simply a scientist who dedicated all his life to make this aparature available.
Conclusion:
There isn't any god or atleast not as the religions decribe him & if there is , he doesn't do sh*t.
Do you believe in any religion ? (If yes, what religion ?) Why (example : my parents believe in the same religion as me)
I don't/wont ever follow/believe in any religion , honestly i find all of them rubbish (no offense , just my opinion). No war in the world has killed more people then religions & continues to do so.
What is your point of view regarding Science and do you make a link between the religion you believe in and Science?
Science = Facts , Religion = Fairy tales. I also belive that it will come the time when everything will be explained (by science).
Any other additional information ?
You only live once , stop living by religions. Believe in yourself & you'll archive great things. In the end is the only thing that matters :)
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I would kindly like to request everyone to keep this topic with posts regarding the main post's form and no more. Going deeper in eachother replies won't get anyone anywhere.
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Do you believe in "God" ? Why ? Yes as i have all my life
Do you believe in any religion ? (If yes, what religion ?) Why (example : my parents believe in the same religion as me) ISLAM. Well since i was a child my parents have brought me up into a family believing in god and im so grateful that they did. Ive studied my own religion well , met a bunch of of scholars with alot of knowledge , so i guess i know my religion well ;D
What is your point of view regarding Science and do you make a link between the religion you believe in and Science ? In the Qur'an they're have been quite a lot of things which were stated 1400 years ago and scientists have discovered recently , for example the Qur'an says that a new born star looks like a rose and scientists have recently discovered this. Please correct me if im wrong.
Any other additional information ? I respect people like @Konvict and the others who have their own view of life and god ;D
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Do you believe in "God"? Why? Science.
Do you believe in any religion? (If yes, what religion?) Why? (example: my parents believe in the same religion as me): Most of my British family members are Christians, but I'm not religious at all.
What is your point of view regarding Science and do you make a link between the religion you believe in and Science? I highly doubt it, but if they can prove it then I'll believe it.
Any other additional information? As someone mentioned above, I believe that religion was created to keep order. I also believe that religion is one of the few factors that has caused conflict for decades, I don't usually like talking about religion because I can turn into a prick, like I know I'm a prick now but I turn into a prickly prick. I respect your beliefs but don't talk about them to me.
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As expected, ended with quotes and criticize other's opinions, everyone is free of what he thinks and what he believes no need for your critics, stay on topic please.
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We all were giving our opinions till this nutella quoted a post.
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First one to go offtopic will get his reply deleted, dont break the rules of the game or all your replies on this topic will be deleted.
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I actually do think this topic is very interesting, I like reading every post and that's why I'm letting it open however,
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yes i believe in god and i believe in islam. why ?
Islam is a religious system begun in the seventh century by Muhammad. Muslims follow the teachings of the Qur’an and strive to keep the Five Pillars.
The Doctrine of Islam
Muslims summarize their doctrine in six articles of faith:
1. Belief in one Allah: Muslims believe Allah is one, eternal, creator, and sovereign.
2. Belief in the angels
3. Belief in the prophets: The prophets include the biblical prophets but end with Muhammad as Allah’s final prophet.
4. Belief in the revelations of Allah: Muslims accept certain portions of the Bible, such as the Torah and the Gospels. They believe the Qur'an is the preexistent, perfect word of Allah.
5. Belief in the last day of judgment and the hereafter: Everyone will be resurrected for judgment into either paradise or hell.
6. Belief in predestination: Muslims believe Allah has decreed everything that will happen. Muslims testify to Allah’s sovereignty with their frequent phrase, inshallah, meaning, “if God wills.”
The Five Pillars of Islam
These five tenets compose the framework of obedience for Muslims:
1. The testimony of faith (shahada): “la ilaha illa allah. Muhammad rasul Allah.” This means, “There is no deity but Allah. Muhammad is the messenger of Allah.” A person can convert to Islam by stating this creed. The shahada shows that a Muslim believes in Allah alone as deity and believes that Muhammad reveals Allah.
2. Prayer (salat): Five ritual prayers must be performed every day.
3. Giving (zakat): This almsgiving is a certain percentage given once a year.
4. Fasting (sawm): Muslims fast during Ramadan in the ninth month of the Islamic calendar. They must not eat or drink from dawn until sunset.
5. Pilgrimage (hajj): If physically and financially possible, a Muslim must make the pilgrimage to Mecca in Saudi Arabia at least once. The hajj is performed in the twelfth month of the Islamic calendar.
- In our world, religion becomes more of a shopping center where almost every person could come up with a religion or a version of a religion. It makes it hard to distinguish the true religion from the fake ones. Some have went all spiritual on the scale of spirituality. Others have gone all the way to materialism. Only Islam can gather both ends in a harmonic mixture. In Islam, Muslims are to build this earth and make it prosper be it in agriculture, industry, sciences, etc. We are ordered to protect life and property of all people who do not transgress and oppress us. We are ordered that if the day of Judgement comes and one has a plant in his hand to plant it. We are allowed to marry, have children and enjoy life.
On the other hand, we are also responsible for our actions and we will be accounted for them. We should always work for the hereafter and wish to please God our creator.
Islam is also a whole way of life. It deals with economics. It sets rules for dealings between humans and animals to dealings between humans and humans to rights of neighbors and parents to the relationship between human beings and the creator.
God in Islam is the Creator
@Nutella a.k.a Grimzy
Most people who do not believe in God have an altered image of God. I do not believe in God who has human qualities. I do not believe in God who is born and can die. I do not believe in God who has human weaknesses. I do not believe in God who hisses and can manifest himself in his creations such as a cow. Hence, many Christians and other religious followers have doubts in their Gods and then some of them throw these doubts behind their backs and say we have faith while others just throw these doubts and refuse the idea of God.
I do believe in God who is the creator of the heavens and the earth. I believe in God who has created everything that lives. So who is God in Islam?
God describes himself in the Quran as: Allâh! Lâ ilâha illa Huwa (none has the right to be worshipped but He), Al-Hayyul-Qayyum (the Ever Living, the One Who sustains and protects all that exists). Neither slumber nor sleep overtakes Him. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. Who is he that can intercede with Him except with His Permission? He knows what happens to them (His creatures) in this world, and what will happen to them in the Hereafter. And they will never compass anything of His Knowledge except that which He wills. His Kursî [1] extends over the heavens and the earth, and He feels no fatigue in guarding and preserving them. And He is the Most High, the Most Great. [This Verse 2:255 is called Ayat-ul-Kursî ]
Firstly: Textual Evidence
The evidence includes the texts that came prophesying the advent of Islam and the Prophet of Islam, whether in the previous scriptures or in the Quran; the Book of Islam.
In Deuteronomy 18:18, we find that God spoke to Moses and said to him that He will raise from among their brethren a Prophet like unto him (Moses) and he (the prophet) will speak of God. In so many other places in the Bible, we will get the names of 'the Prophet' in combination with the messiah and the Baptist. This Prophet is none but Muhammad; the Prophet of Islam.
Also, he is referred to in the Bible as 'Elijah' coming from the Arabian Peninsula. There is also a reference to the light coming from the mountains of Pharan.
The textual evidence in the previous books are also referred to in the Quran in the stories of the Jews and Christians and the glad tidings given by Jesus to his people that there will be a final Prophet coming after him whose name will be Ahmad.
In Surah 3 (Aal-Imran), Almighty Allah tells us that He has taken the covenant from all prophets and messengers to believe in this final prophet who comes with the same message that is monotheism, the true message of Allah sent with all prophets and messengers.
Secondly: Logical Evidence
The very message of Jesus and his short stay on earth show that there was a need for another prophet to come settling all issues and showing complete course of guidance for all humans. This conforms with the saying of Jesus himself that he came not to initiate something new but to fulfill.
The world, before the advent of the Prophet of Islam was in a case of a total disruption and complete disorder. There were two main superpowers that engaged in a series of wars and fierce fighting, there was no place for the weak; rather, social injustice was spread everywhere and man’s condition went, in terms of morality, to alarming levels.
This unjust chaos and total disruption showed that there was a need for a religion that could re-establish order again. This was the condition of the world when Islam came with a complete social justice system, rights and equality, illumination and morality.
Thirdly: Other Evidences
There are so many other evidences that Islam is a religion of truth. Among them are the following:
The Quran is the eternal message of Islam and a timeless miracle that no one can produce the like thereof. Arabs, who were masters of linguistic excellence, could not produce the like of the shortest verse of the Quran when they were challenged to do so.
Islam calls for understanding and a deep search in one's self, in the creation of the heavens and earth and the contemplation in everything around man. Had Islam been a false religion, it would have asked man to cripple his mind and paralyze his intelligence and stop thinking about anything. (see Surahs 2:164, 6:11, and 6:95-100)
Modern science testifies to Islam; the Quran contains lots of scientific facts that were completely unknown at the time of its revelation. They were just discovered recently. This is in itself standing evidence on the truthfulness of the Quran. The Quran gives facts about the life of the fetus in its mother’s womb (23:12-14), the layers of the earth (76:2-3, 65:12), stars and planets, the fall of the rain and lots of other issues that are only known to scientists who are deep in knowledge.
There were lots of material miracles that were performed and eye-witnessed during the life-time of the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him). Among these miracles is the flow of water from between his fingers, the dividing of the moon into two pieces, his speech to a lizard which was able to tell that he is the messenger of Allah besides so many other miracles that were performed and eye-witnessed by his contemporaries.
These are but a few of the many evidences supporting Islam and showing that it is the eternal message of Allah and a religion of truth.
Scientific Facts in the Quran
read this http://invitetoislam.org/scientific-facts-in-the-quran/ (http://invitetoislam.org/scientific-facts-in-the-quran/)
Quran contains alot of scientific facts discovered recently
must see https://www.facebook.com/notes/%D8%B3%D9%8A%D8%AD%D8%B1%D9%82%D9%88%D9%87-911-theyll-burn-it-911/miracles-in-quran-1400-years-agoshocking-nowdays-science/156113484401655 (https://www.facebook.com/notes/%D8%B3%D9%8A%D8%AD%D8%B1%D9%82%D9%88%D9%87-911-theyll-burn-it-911/miracles-in-quran-1400-years-agoshocking-nowdays-science/156113484401655)
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Do you believe in "God" ? Why ?
Yes I do. Because there are many proofs shows that God exist.
Do you believe in any religion ? (If yes, what religion ?) Why (example : my parents believe in the same religion as me)
Yes, Me and my family we believe in the Islam religion, Why? That doesn't make sense that before 1400 years ago the people knew how many strata of the sky up there (7) or how the 2 parts of the ocean doesn't admixture or HOW many Planets up there in the space, If that big bang you talking about which made this world, then why the earth got air, and the moon doesn't, why this world have gravity and the moon or the other planets got different gravity, if that big bang made the humans, from where all these animals comes from, from where all of that water came from... etc, that's pretty much good, and there are mooooooooooooore of proofs that shows that the god (Allah) Exists, and all of that in the Quran before 1400 years. If there is something keeps us alive (air and water), something holds us down to the ground (Gravity) and 4 different seasons.. etc, then its possible that the first 2 humans were Adam and Hawwa (Don't know how to spell the name) that Adam ate that apple and Allah threw him to this planet.
There are many many many many of information about the world and more... that proofs Allah exist, As suhaib said, check this if you are interested and if you are not stay ignorant: https://www.facebook.com/notes/%D8%B3%D9%8A%D8%AD%D8%B1%D9%82%D9%88%D9%87-911-theyll-burn-it-911/miracles-in-quran-1400-years-agoshocking-nowdays-science/156113484401655 (https://www.facebook.com/notes/%D8%B3%D9%8A%D8%AD%D8%B1%D9%82%D9%88%D9%87-911-theyll-burn-it-911/miracles-in-quran-1400-years-agoshocking-nowdays-science/156113484401655)
What is your point of view regarding Science and do you make a link between the religion you believe in and Science ?
No i don't, the science got nothing about making this world, the science's thinking also (big bang or idk..) If they can make a world by a big bang, or at least a project like that small bang, i would be like (yeah maybe..)
Any other additional information ?
that's obvious that Allah exist, how would all of this life, all of this world and how we proliferation can be only by a big bang, how does the heart pulse, how do you move, how is the brain in the head, eyes... everything, am getting a little bit interacted, just think about it.
And for the people who are saying where is the god when we have poor people, sick people, children getting raped, why god doesn't help them? God always bless them, but you don't see that, don't you hear poor man won 10k dollars or i dont know how much, a wife put her husband's shoes in the garbage, and there were a poor women took it and there were inside a lot of money there (the wife didn't know that).. etc, Mate, for the people who are saying this, You don't know what will happen to you after 1 min, maybe i was going to get killed 10 times by people, by cars, by anything, but Allah saved me without letting me know, so just watch around you, and if god didn't bless them, they might made Allah angry by doing something really bad, and thats what they receive
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Do you believe in "God" ? Why ? Yes, because its simply the right thing to do and it explains everything which your mind can handle explaining. Like for
example, trees were made to serve all beings (Shelter , in return other beings give it what it wants (CO2, compost..etc). Human beings were made to
serve everything on this earth, God gave them a great mind that no other being has it. Look around you, look what gods gift made us create and do,
we created the Internet that makes the whole world a small village, we created smart TV's that can be used by your own bare hands, we created a lot
of things... but instead of continuing to serve others, we used it against each other, we miss-used gods well.. we made wars, we killed, we extinguished
animals/trees..etc Why is that? Because we were simply made to LOVE power and money that can buy a lot of things on the world except happiness and your judgment day... You may not notice and you could say that you're not a power hunger, but you're sometimes in situations that you don't realize because your mind started thinking that the wrong/bad things is good and its right (Actually it started with the Devil but I can't explain it here).. The way to avoid this is to be in a religion called Islam. Some of you also would say, whats God's participation in this? also how did he get created? did he create himself? Now its forbidden for us to think like this in Islam because it mostly leads to Atheism but I'm doing this because I know that I won't leave my religion, now my answer would be that our own minds can't explain it, its limited and the things that you want to think of is UNLIMITED, like so far we created things that can blown the shit out of you, yet Allah says in the quran that we will only know little about knowledge as a drop of water in a sea... Also many scientist after their inventions, they either had had went atheist or went to a religious (Mostly Islam).
Do you believe in any religion ? (If yes, what religion ?) Why (example : my parents believe in the same religion as me) Yes I do believe in religion, I already stated why above.
What is your point of view regarding Science and do you make a link between the religion you believe in and Science ? The first thing that Allah said to Mohammad (When he sent him Jebra'el) in the quran "اقرأ" and it means "read/learn", search for it for the rest of this Aya and you will know more. Allah asked mohammad to read and not to pray, not to go to Al qaeba, not to fast...etc and this was the first message in the Quran.
Any other additional information ? Ask me anything and I hope that I can answer you, I don't represent Islam in any way, I only try to help. I probably make mistakes more than a lot of you here but I still can help!
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We discussed this with ReFresh already and many of you have witnessed similar discussions made by myself. I'm not going to write anything as I don't want to get involved in arguments according to this matter, can't be bothered really :D
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Do you believe in "God" ? Why ? Not really. A lot of people feel the need to believe in a creator in order to hear what they want to hear and also because they feel the need to believe in the life after death because their current lives are not, for example, like they expected it to be. However, I'm not in this case. I used to believe in God from when I was born until last year. I currently believe in Science.
Do you believe in any religion ? (If yes, what religion ?) Why (example : my parents believe in the same religion as me) My parents believe in God (Islam) and I felt myself influenced by their beliefs and I believed that Islam was the right religion and that all those who were not believing in Islam would go to hell but last year, I took the decision to stop believing in Islam. I started to question myself about several things. The first one is : "what if my parents were not muslim ?". This question even if it might sound a bit stupid is actually the reality, the reason why most of people believe in Islam. I don't want to sound offensive since I know that at a certain age, we are able to think by ourselves and to see by ourselves if our beliefs are valid or not and that's why I stopped to believe in Islam but the fact is that most of Muslims were either born in a muslim environment (muslim parents / muslim country) or were influenced by somebody's else beliefs. The only reason why I was believing in Islam was because my parents believed too so my faith to Islam was actually big since as everyone, I respect my parents a lot so it was hard for me to question their faith but however, I still took the decision to question mine which basically led me to stop believing in Islam.
One other thing is that in the Quran, it is clearly stated this (Quran 4:88) : "Do you wish to guide those whom Allah has sent astray? And he whom Allah sends astray - never will you find for him a way [of guidance]." and this (Quran 16:93) : "And if Allah had willed, He could have made you [of] one religion, but He causes to stray whom He wills and guides whom He wills. And you will surely be questioned about what you used to do." which basically means that, according to Islam, God (=Allah) has guided some people to believe in Islam (muslim country, muslim parents) and others not to believe. This basically means that God is being unfair since according to this (Quran 8:36) : "Indeed, those who disbelieve spend their wealth to avert [people] from the way of Allah . So they will spend it; then it will be for them a [source of] regret; then they will be overcome. And those who have disbelieved - unto Hell they will be gathered.", God will punish those who will have disbelieved by putting them in Hell because he guided them not to believe.
An other reason why I stopped to believe in Islam is the fact that in the Quran it's said that the first human beings were Adam and Eve, that the evolution is false and that God was the one who created every single thing (creationism) which is basically false in my eyes. You might think that I'm not instructed enough to talk to you about this but I'm currently attending medicine studies and we basically saw the evolution. I'm also instructed enough regarding the origin of the universe and I have read a lot of articles/books regarding it and basically, the Big Bang theory is the only theory valid in my eyes since the theory of the creation of the universe by an omnipotent individual is not valid in my eyes because our universe is in expansion.
The only possibility I'm not totally against with is the one of a "God" who might have created the essential things in order to start the Big Bang. This would basically mean that we would not be here for no reason but this would make anyone question about the origin of "God" and how "God" was created. If you actually believe in "God", you should question yourself about the origin of the "God" you believe in because if you actually think that "God" was created randomly (according to Islam, Allah has no creator) but that our universe was however somebody's creation then why is it hard for you to believe in the theory of our universe being created randomly by an explosion (Big Bang) after the meeting of matter and anti-matter ?
What is your point of view regarding Science and do you make a link between the religion you believe in and Science ? I have already developed my point of view regarding Science in my previous points.[/li][/list]
Any other additional information ? Don't take this offensively nor as a way to impose my beliefs. I felt that I had to let everybody understand why I stopped believing in something I used to believe in for so long. Watch this if you want to hear somebody's else opinion : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ra9QQ58b7JY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ra9QQ58b7JY)
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this video explains it all,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7d16CpWp-ok (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7d16CpWp-ok)
thank me later
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1.Do you believe in "God" ? Why ?
Answer)
Yes Because after all there must be a creator (Allah S.W.T.) which created everything and equalized our needs in this earth. We are brought to this world to live and obey him as he created us. Islam is wisely made and The Holy books didn't come down to the earth like rain or something it was brought as a Revelation to the certain prophets which have been passing all through those years. Most of you misunderstand or don't even ask about it.
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2.Do you believe in any religion ? (If yes, what religion ?) Why (example : my parents believe in the same religion as me)
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Yes, Islam because It's the religion with most sense throughout all religions. And year by year my faith is getting stronger and better thanks god. I thank god that my parents were lead to the right path and raised me by teaching it to me.
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3.What is your point of view regarding Science and do you make a link between the religion you believe in and Science ?
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Allah S.W.T. has ordered us to Learn more and has Cautioned us not to be thinking that we understand everything so that might lead us to leave Islam and think we have enough knowledge and that is actually happening. theories such as big bang. that happened by the will of god not by nothing. When Allah says HAPPEN it HAPPENS. As mentioned in the Holy Quran [11/7] And it is He who created the heavens and the earth in six days - and His Throne had been upon water - that He might test you as to which of you is best in deed. But if you say, "Indeed, you are resurrected after death," those who disbelieve will surely say, "This is not but obvious magic."
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4.Any other additional information ?
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Yes, Most of you consider god as a Human being or if not then as a specie. He's not. for more information read this Surah which contains only 4 sentences. http://quran.com/112 (http://quran.com/112)
Plus Allah knows everything, and what ever everyone does because he is the creator he watches you all the time and he knows what you are doing now [57/4] It is He who created the heavens and earth in six days and then established Himself above the Throne. He knows what penetrates into the earth and what emerges from it and what descends from the heaven and what ascends therein; and He is with you wherever you are. And Allah , of what you do, is Seeing.
I won't go into deeper details.
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Because my last got removed, I am sorry.
Do you believe in "God" ? Why ? Yes I believe in Allah. Because I don't think humans come from apes, etc. Like every1 else said "who created plants, animals, etc".
Do you believe in any religion ? (If yes, what religion ?) Why (example : my parents believe in the same religion as me) Islam, my parents raised me this way. Read above why ^
What is your point of view regarding Science and do you make a link between the religion you believe in and Science ? I honestly don't know how to answer this.
Any other additional information ?
http://www.imranhosein.org/articles/signs-of-the-last-day/76-ten-major-signs-of-the-last-day-has-one-just-occurred.html (http://www.imranhosein.org/articles/signs-of-the-last-day/76-ten-major-signs-of-the-last-day-has-one-just-occurred.html)
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I don't even need to write trillions of sentences in this.
Whoever is not able to think off a scientific reason of world's creation and has no knownledge of the modern science at all ends up believing in god.
End of story.
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Do you believe in "God" ? Why ?ALLAH is my only Lord and Master; the One who revealed this scripture. He protects the righteous."
Do you believe in any religion ? (If yes, what religion? (ISLAM ) Why? (Because the only religion approved by ALLAH is "Islam"
What is your point of view regarding Science and do you make a link between the religion you believe in and Science ?We believe in religion which is "ISLAM"
Any other additional information ?
get close to ALLLAH first before getting close to anyone; Allah without man is still ALLAH, but a man without ALLAH is nothing
Proud to be a muslim :)
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Just one question, do I go to hell for not believing in "Allah"?
Please, don't take this the wrong way, I'm just asking a question before anybody gets offended and this turns into a long ass argument.
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Just one question, do I go to hell for not believing in "Allah"?
No one is saying you to believe in Allah, we're just saying that we are belong to what religion ?? and topic was just asking about the religion...
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Well, im not that keen on religion, i just believe but not practice it, and i think you dont go to hell if you havent done sth bad. Ive seen a movie where a family were atheists and their mother was possesed. There neede to be an exorcism but they needed approval from vatikan and they got it, and i dont think u go to hell :D . (Conjuring)
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Well, im not that keen on religion, i just believe but not practice it, and i think you dont go to hell if you havent done sth bad. Ive seen a movie where a family were atheists and their mother was possesed. There neede to be an exorcism but they needed approval from vatikan and they got it, and i dont think u go to hell :D . (Conjuring)
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Just one question, do I go to hell for not believing in "Allah"?
Please, don't take this the wrong way, I'm just asking a question before anybody gets offended and this turns into a long ass argument.
Well, Allah is merciful, and he's the one who judges, we have no idea what u have done in your life,you just make sure u do good things ;D
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Guys could you please abide to the rules stated in the thread ?
And before stating random facts, could you at least prove them ? Seems like people say/hear only what they want to hear (talking about the ones who got involved into the debate above and not about those who respected the form).
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Do you believe in "God" ? Why ? ofcaurse yes ! 0 + 0 + 0 +0 never possibly gives you 1 ! you r trying to tell me that everything in this world come from none ?
atheism is like a fish denying the exictence of the water
Do you believe in any religion ? : Islam
What is your point of view regarding Science and do you make a link between the religion you believe in and Science ?
if the whole world was the come together we wouldn't be able to create a single fly
sience trying to justify that everything come from none ,
Allah, The creator of the universe along with every single soul,The Everliving, the Master the only one who is in control
Unlike his creation, beyond our imagination,He's not a man nor has he any partners in association, He's on his own.And neither did He ever leave us alone.Just like every manufacturer he left us with an instruction manual The Quran and Islam and I'm sorry to jump to conclusions but it's the only one possible.The only definition of God as the One and Only, supreme being its logical,A book with zero contradictions and miracles that are both scientific and historical.All revealed over 1400 years ago
Like the detailed description of the human embryo ! ...
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Do you believe in "God" ? Why ? Yes, because someone has to make all these things, someone did, I believe in science and that the big bang is possible, but someone caused it, someone decided what beings would be on earth for example.
Do you believe in any religion ? (If yes, what religion ?) Why ? Well, I used to be a Christian, I still am on some things, however day by day I believe less in religions, there is a God in my opinion, but I doubt it's one of those that we think.
What is your point of view regarding Science and do you make a link between the religion you believe in and Science ? I believe in both, I am neither a man of science nor a man of faith, I'm both and none depending on the situation, just that.
Any other additional information ? I disagree with religions, probably all of them. Every person has his own way of respecting God and every person chooses what he will do in his life. sorry but I will not totally believe any Bible or Quran(example, no hate) just because someone said it's true, God knows when we respect him and when we're on the right path, books and words are not necessary.
P.S. We've said it a thousand times, such conversations are NOT ok here, it will end up in a fight.
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I guess if it doesn't get out of hand I don't see why we can't have small discussions.
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Just one question, do I go to hell for not believing in "Allah"?
Please, don't take this the wrong way, I'm just asking a question before anybody gets offended and this turns into a long ass argument.
only god can judge you :)
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Just one question, do I go to hell for not believing in "Allah"?
Please, don't take this the wrong way, I'm just asking a question before anybody gets offended and this turns into a long ass argument.
only god can judge you :)
willie's answer and this is the right one, we are humans like you, we dont know anything about judging you are going to hell or heaven.
only god knows!
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I see a lot of people posting in order to try to convince other people about their beliefs but that has never been the point of this topic. The purpose of this topic is to give you the right to express yourselves regarding your beliefs in a reasonable way and not to try to make people believe in what you believe. You should keep in mind that we have different convictions, different morals, different lives since we live in different environments and we haven't experienced the same life nor got the same education. That's why I stated this in the thread rules : "Keep in mind that all the posts have to be made in order to share your opinion and not to be offensive about others' ones and that the purpose of posting in this thread is to share your opinion and not to impose it.". It is not that easy to convince someone who doesn't think like you do so don't bother to do it because this will turn the topic more into a fight/debate and the purpose of this forum has never been of discussing about some philosophical questions. This is more a way to socialize even if this might sound stupid.
So any posts in which your intention is to convince people will be removed from now. Small questions and constructive debates are still allowed but don't turn this into a big dilemma.
(saying this because I had to remove some posts and so, the ones who are concerned will understand)
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I'm awesome so I doubt I'll go to hell, anyway back to the original topic ladies.
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the question is:
who created science? laws? it complexity? optic ?aerodynamic ,physics, gravity,quantum astro etc?
men are just understanding science, science was here with it laws before us, we just obey to science, it laws and limits ,and we are still amazed by it and still discovering......who or what this genius being who created all this? this is the real question...
Alright , let's assume God created all this that we see , but then the question comes , who created God ?
we all ask ourselves this question, but think about it , what does god mean? The creator the only one. god is not the same as his creatures. Means hes not a human as us , doesnt eat doesnt sleep , doesnt mate .only 1 god exists.
Hope you get it.
Stop propagating
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I see a lot of people posting in order to try to convince other people about their beliefs but that has never been the point of this topic. The purpose of this topic is to give you the right to express yourselves regarding your beliefs in a reasonable way and not to try to make people believe in what you believe. You should keep in mind that we have different convictions, different morals, different lives since we live in different environments and we haven't experienced the same life nor got the same education. That's why I stated this in the thread rules : "Keep in mind that all the posts have to be made in order to share your opinion and not to be offensive about others' ones and that the purpose of posting in this thread is to share your opinion and not to impose it.". It is not that easy to convince someone who doesn't think like you do so don't bother to do it because this will turn the topic more into a fight/debate and the purpose of this forum has never been of discussing about some philosophical questions. This is more a way to socialize even if this might sound stupid.
So any posts in which your intention is to convince people will be removed from now. Small questions and constructive debates are still allowed but don't turn this into a big dilemma.
(saying this because I had to remove some posts and so, the ones who are concerned will understand)
Trying to convince others is illegal as well, let's get some IPs and call FBI >: D
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IMO your free to have your OWN opinion on god. I think its best to see for yourself if you think god exists or not.
However i think its wrong to judge someone by their beliefs just because they think differently than you.
Don't judge people ;)
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Bertrand Russel sums up this for me pretty well.
Many orthodox people speak as though it were the business of sceptics to disprove received dogmas rather than of dogmatists to prove them. This is, of course, a mistake. If I were to suggest that between the Earth and Mars there is a china teapot revolving about the sun in an elliptical orbit, nobody would be able to disprove my assertion provided I were careful to add that the teapot is too small to be revealed even by our most powerful telescopes. But if I were to go on to say that, since my assertion cannot be disproved, it is intolerable presumption on the part of human reason to doubt it, I should rightly be thought to be talking nonsense. If, however, the existence of such a teapot were affirmed in ancient books, taught as the sacred truth every Sunday, and instilled into the minds of children at school, hesitation to believe in its existence would become a mark of eccentricity and entitle the doubter to the attentions of the psychiatrist in an enlightened age or of the Inquisitor in an earlier time.
I am an atheist. I do not think the existence of the Christian God any more probable than the existence of the Gods of Olympus or Valhalla. To take another illustration: nobody can prove that there is not between the Earth and Mars a china teapot revolving in an elliptical orbit, but nobody thinks this sufficiently likely to be taken into account in practice. I think the Christian God just as unlikely. (Or any God)
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Though i respect your faiths and beliefs, but most of the guys are trying to inject their thoughts/ faith into other people. Respect all religions instead of stating that your religion makes the most sense etc etc.Looks like a religious forum to me even though question is "whether you are a theist or atheist". Please do not get me wrong i am not here to offend anyone.I truly respect all religions :).All religion convey the same meaning ie love,humanity and peace.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCMgwwDkFxE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCMgwwDkFxE)
Just wanted to share this here , I don't want to start any fights or arguements , but 1400 years ago all this was said , and now it's ALL happening.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCMgwwDkFxE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCMgwwDkFxE)
Just wanted to share this here , I don't want to start any fights or arguements , but 1400 years ago all this was said , and now it's ALL happening.
Doesn't mean shit. You can pretty much guess these from what people are doing. History... repeats itself ;')
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCMgwwDkFxE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCMgwwDkFxE)
Just wanted to share this here , I don't want to start any fights or arguements , but 1400 years ago all this was said , and now it's ALL happening.
Doesn't mean shit. You can pretty much guess these from what people are doing. History... repeats itself ;')
Just 1 question, how will i know there will be a Tv or an instrumental music on the head before 1400 years from the history?
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Does anyone watch ancient aliens :P
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Do you believe in "God" ? Why ? Yes, as there is no actual proof how everything happend on this earth and scientists fail to give us proper Explanation how everything happend, I believe there is a god. Why? Very simple: If you are in the Sahara and wee see the White house there, and I would tell you, this happend after a lightnig hit the place. Would you believe it? No, how come you believe that the "Big Bang" has managed to make this perfect world?. If a simple "PEN" has it's owner, how come you believe the world which is Perfect, does not have an owner?
Do you believe in any religion ? (If yes, what religion ?) Why (example : my parents believe in the same religion as me) Yes the Islam.
What is your point of view regarding Science and do you make a link between the religion you believe in and Science ? I believe in the science yes, but not regarding how the world or the big bang happend, as at the Point that they cant answer they say: "Science is not good enough to proof that at the Moment".
Any other additional information ? For anyone interested "The Purpose of Life" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7d16CpWp-ok)
As you see I haven't inuslted anyone, please if you disagree, then disagree without insulting.
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Do you believe in "God" ? Why ? Yes, as there is no actual proof how everything happend on this earth and scientists fail to give us proper Explanation how everything happend, I believe there is a god. Why? Very simple: If you are in the Sahara and wee see the White house there, and I would tell you, this happend after a lightnig hit the place. Would you believe it? No, how come you believe that the "Big Bang" has managed to make this perfect world?. If a simple "PEN" has it's owner, how come you believe the world which is Perfect, does not have an owner?
Do you believe in any religion ? (If yes, what religion ?) Why (example : my parents believe in the same religion as me) Yes the Islam.
What is your point of view regarding Science and do you make a link between the religion you believe in and Science ? I believe in the science yes, but not regarding how the world or the big bang happend, as at the Point that they cant answer they say: "Science is not good enough to proof that at the Moment".
Any other additional information ? For anyone interested "The Purpose of Life" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7d16CpWp-ok)
As you see I haven't inuslted anyone, please if you disagree, then disagree without insulting.
I'm not trying to derail your theory, after all I'm religious myself, but there is scientific proof for things like Bing bang theory or even evoltion (eg. corpses / skeletal of Neanderthal, cave paintings, sculptures, en-stoned remains of pre-evolution animals) - while existence of God is a mere assumption. Also, we have had the chance of seeing effects of same pattern in space on other space objects, it would be only logical conclusion.
There's nothing wrong with being religious as a belief, but when you start disregarding actual facts that are more than likely to be true, then it starts to cloud your vision.
Also, if going by your argument, if you're disregarding bing bang theory/other way of thinking, that's not entirely proven yet, how can you justify existence of religion?
Double standards suck.
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Do you believe in "God" ? Why ? Yes, as there is no actual proof how everything happend on this earth and scientists fail to give us proper Explanation how everything happend, I believe there is a god. Why? Very simple: If you are in the Sahara and wee see the White house there, and I would tell you, this happend after a lightnig hit the place. Would you believe it? No, how come you believe that the "Big Bang" has managed to make this perfect world?. If a simple "PEN" has it's owner, how come you believe the world which is Perfect, does not have an owner?
Do you believe in any religion ? (If yes, what religion ?) Why (example : my parents believe in the same religion as me) Yes the Islam.
What is your point of view regarding Science and do you make a link between the religion you believe in and Science ? I believe in the science yes, but not regarding how the world or the big bang happend, as at the Point that they cant answer they say: "Science is not good enough to proof that at the Moment".
Any other additional information ? For anyone interested "The Purpose of Life" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7d16CpWp-ok)
As you see I haven't inuslted anyone, please if you disagree, then disagree without insulting.
I'm not trying to derail your theory, after all I'm religious myself, but there is scientific proof for things like Bing bang theory or even evoltion (eg. corpses / skeletal of neandrtalia, cave paintings, sculptures, en-stoned remains of pre-evolution animals) - while existence of God is a mere assumption.
You should check up on facts before going into an argument :)
I was gonna reply to him but i found myself a little offensive doing it....
Fisu please watch "Through the wormhole" season 1 at least :)
It's fun
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Do you believe in "God" ? Why ? Yes, as there is no actual proof how everything happend on this earth and scientists fail to give us proper Explanation how everything happend, I believe there is a god. Why? Very simple: If you are in the Sahara and wee see the White house there, and I would tell you, this happend after a lightnig hit the place. Would you believe it? No, how come you believe that the "Big Bang" has managed to make this perfect world?. If a simple "PEN" has it's owner, how come you believe the world which is Perfect, does not have an owner?
Do you believe in any religion ? (If yes, what religion ?) Why (example : my parents believe in the same religion as me) Yes the Islam.
What is your point of view regarding Science and do you make a link between the religion you believe in and Science ? I believe in the science yes, but not regarding how the world or the big bang happend, as at the Point that they cant answer they say: "Science is not good enough to proof that at the Moment".
Any other additional information ? For anyone interested "The Purpose of Life" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7d16CpWp-ok)
As you see I haven't inuslted anyone, please if you disagree, then disagree without insulting.
I'm not trying to derail your theory, after all I'm religious myself, but there is scientific proof for things like Bing bang theory or even evoltion (eg. corpses / skeletal of Neanderthal, cave paintings, sculptures, en-stoned remains of pre-evolution animals) - while existence of God is a mere assumption. Also, we have had the chance of seeing effects of same pattern in space on other space objects, it would be only logical conclusion.
There's nothing wrong with being religious as a belief, but when you start disregarding actual facts that are more than likely to be true, then it starts to cloud your vision.
Also, if going by your argument, if you're disregarding bing bang theory/other way of thinking, that's not entirely proven yet, how can you justify existence of religion?
Double standards suck.
I don't disagree on the Facts of the big bang, but rather on the People that believe it came out of nothing. Zero + Zero can not possibly give you one. I think that all of that has been cause by god - as the big bang in my eyes can not create such a world that we have now. :) Sorry if I wasn't clear enough which made this misunderstanding, I believe in science and I believe in their theory mostly, but I disagree that they say there is no god and it's all Logical
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Big Bang - 1cell creatures - Evolution of the living - Humanoid monkey ( Such as australopitheceus) type creature - Human - Society nowadays.
What prooves this is the evolution of human knowledge over centuries, such as Geographycal discoveries, physical and mathematical theories and from very beginning - ability to use materials and building with them. Also, discoveries make technologies.
Human evoluates over time, it's Common sense increases until a certain point. It's like human species change during eras.
What prooves a Big Bang is that Nowadays we know that certain materials or chemicals can be explosive. The coinsidence could be that the thing that exploded to make our typical Sun System could have contained a lot of those chemicals. Object could not handle that pressure and spit in pieces.
Basically, my point here is - Saying that god exists is like saying that Teddy Bears can talk.
My only question is - What kind of living objects were on that thing before it made the BANG, if there were any living in the first place.
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Do you believe in "God" ? Why ? Yes, as there is no actual proof how everything happend on this earth and scientists fail to give us proper Explanation how everything happend, I believe there is a god. Why? Very simple: If you are in the Sahara and wee see the White house there, and I would tell you, this happend after a lightnig hit the place. Would you believe it? No, how come you believe that the "Big Bang" has managed to make this perfect world?. If a simple "PEN" has it's owner, how come you believe the world which is Perfect, does not have an owner?
Do you believe in any religion ? (If yes, what religion ?) Why (example : my parents believe in the same religion as me) Yes the Islam.
What is your point of view regarding Science and do you make a link between the religion you believe in and Science ? I believe in the science yes, but not regarding how the world or the big bang happend, as at the Point that they cant answer they say: "Science is not good enough to proof that at the Moment".
Any other additional information ? For anyone interested "The Purpose of Life" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7d16CpWp-ok)
As you see I haven't inuslted anyone, please if you disagree, then disagree without insulting.
I'm not trying to derail your theory, after all I'm religious myself, but there is scientific proof for things like Bing bang theory or even evoltion (eg. corpses / skeletal of neandrtalia, cave paintings, sculptures, en-stoned remains of pre-evolution animals) - while existence of God is a mere assumption.
You should check up on facts before going into an argument :)
I was gonna reply to him but i found myself a little offensive doing it....
Fisu please watch "Through the wormhole" season 1 at least :)
It's fun
I have that problem when I speak to theists. It's not what you say is offensive, it's just a lot of them take it badly being told their belief is wrong. To be honest I just usually avoid having religious/philosophical conversations with people unless they can accept criticism of their views, to me it's not rational to believe in a god.
Richard Dawkins is a must read for everyone. Especially the Blind Watchmaker for people who struggle with the concept of evolution.
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Do you believe in "God" ? Why ? Yes, as there is no actual proof how everything happend on this earth and scientists fail to give us proper Explanation how everything happend, I believe there is a god. Why? Very simple: If you are in the Sahara and wee see the White house there, and I would tell you, this happend after a lightnig hit the place. Would you believe it? No, how come you believe that the "Big Bang" has managed to make this perfect world?. If a simple "PEN" has it's owner, how come you believe the world which is Perfect, does not have an owner?
Do you believe in any religion ? (If yes, what religion ?) Why (example : my parents believe in the same religion as me) Yes the Islam.
What is your point of view regarding Science and do you make a link between the religion you believe in and Science ? I believe in the science yes, but not regarding how the world or the big bang happend, as at the Point that they cant answer they say: "Science is not good enough to proof that at the Moment".
Any other additional information ? For anyone interested "The Purpose of Life" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7d16CpWp-ok)
As you see I haven't inuslted anyone, please if you disagree, then disagree without insulting.
I'm not trying to derail your theory, after all I'm religious myself, but there is scientific proof for things like Bing bang theory or even evoltion (eg. corpses / skeletal of neandrtalia, cave paintings, sculptures, en-stoned remains of pre-evolution animals) - while existence of God is a mere assumption.
You should check up on facts before going into an argument :)
I was gonna reply to him but i found myself a little offensive doing it....
Fisu please watch "Through the wormhole" season 1 at least :)
It's fun
I have that problem when I speak to theists. It's not what you say is offensive, it's just a lot of them take it badly being told their belief is wrong. To be honest I just usually avoid having religious/philosophical conversations with people unless they can accept criticism of their views, to me it's not rational to believe in a god.
Richard Dawkins is a must read for everyone. Especially the Blind Watchmaker for people who struggle with the concept of evolution.
Well i have no idea if fisu accepts criticism or not, but i rather not mess with someone's belief.
And looking at his reply, he's a strong believer.
So i rather not try to say anything.
Simple :)
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Do you believe in "God" ? Why ? Yes, as there is no actual proof how everything happend on this earth and scientists fail to give us proper Explanation how everything happend, I believe there is a god. Why? Very simple: If you are in the Sahara and wee see the White house there, and I would tell you, this happend after a lightnig hit the place. Would you believe it? No, how come you believe that the "Big Bang" has managed to make this perfect world?. If a simple "PEN" has it's owner, how come you believe the world which is Perfect, does not have an owner?
Do you believe in any religion ? (If yes, what religion ?) Why (example : my parents believe in the same religion as me) Yes the Islam.
What is your point of view regarding Science and do you make a link between the religion you believe in and Science ? I believe in the science yes, but not regarding how the world or the big bang happend, as at the Point that they cant answer they say: "Science is not good enough to proof that at the Moment".
Any other additional information ? For anyone interested "The Purpose of Life" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7d16CpWp-ok)
As you see I haven't inuslted anyone, please if you disagree, then disagree without insulting.
I'm not trying to derail your theory, after all I'm religious myself, but there is scientific proof for things like Bing bang theory or even evoltion (eg. corpses / skeletal of neandrtalia, cave paintings, sculptures, en-stoned remains of pre-evolution animals) - while existence of God is a mere assumption.
You should check up on facts before going into an argument :)
I was gonna reply to him but i found myself a little offensive doing it....
Fisu please watch "Through the wormhole" season 1 at least :)
It's fun
I have that problem when I speak to theists. It's not what you say is offensive, it's just a lot of them take it badly being told their belief is wrong. To be honest I just usually avoid having religious/philosophical conversations with people unless they can accept criticism of their views, to me it's not rational to believe in a god.
Richard Dawkins is a must read for everyone. Especially the Blind Watchmaker for people who struggle with the concept of evolution.
Well i have no idea if fisu accepts criticism or not, but i rather not mess with someone's belief.
And looking at his reply, he's a strong believer.
So i rather not try to say anything.
Simple :)
Trying to convince him to change his belief would be wrong. It's why i dislike many Christians here as they can be quite forceful in their views. (Northern Ireland is the most backwards country in Western Europe).
An open discussion, where people can listen to what you say, and answer your points and provide their own views without getting offended is fine. I have met many religious people who can do this, I've also met many who can't.
I'd refer all the theists to my Bertrand Russel point earlier though, it's very hard to argue with that logic, and he made that point about 120 years ago lol.
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atheism is like a fish denying the exictence of the water -_-
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atheism is like a fish denying the exictence of the water -_-
Not the same thing.
If Atheism is a fish, the water is the world. Then god would be the being that created the water. That's how you compare.
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You know guys, you are kinda trying to prove your point with inclusion of superiority referrals that your opinion is correct. Just say are you either a godboi or scienceboi and that's it
No need serve me fish
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You know guys, you are kinda trying to prove your point with inclusion of superiority referrals that your opinion is correct. Just say are you either a godboi or scienceboi and that's it
No need serve me fish
Gumball shall serve you pirannhas of the Void, mate.
OT ->
Science is an atheist thing. It's explained with theories through centuries.
It's exactly what made me believe in big bang and Evolution.
Has anyone else mentioned - Evolution of the breathing being? Anyone?
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atheism is like a fish denying the exictence of the water -_-
An unrelated baseless comparison is like a post I quote.
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Do you believe in "God" ? Why ? no , i believe in charliecharlie jkjk i believe in God and forever
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I see more theists than atheists in this topic.
P.S. I believe in god.
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@Ray
I don't understand people who don't accept critisme. I find it quite ironic mentioning that mate. I accept critisme, but what I love to do is discuss about opinions I do not agree with. Why? Not because it's funny, but how else you're going to find out what exactly, how exactly somone thinks of your/his belief? I mean alright I accept also the people who do not believ in any of the religions cause they can not be proved (What they think/believe). Which now in my opinion is quite weird, I mean is there any logical explenation why "jesus" was able to heal somone? How he gained that ability? I mean alright people now say, "that's not true you can't prove it", you can't prove it's wrong either, I rather belief millions of people who belief that rather than somone who says it's not true.
I'm pretty sure people did not have any religion, until they've seen facts that proved it and made people believe in it.
:) Don't get me wrong if I might sound offensive, but you all know I can't really write perfectly in English, so I might directly translate things from german that do not sound offensive in german but in English, and I would ofcourse love to have other opinions from people. It's also funny what most people think of the islam.. which is quite sad due the fact the media can manipulate so many people which causes all of those existing fights atm.
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I find this thread very inappropriate and not suited for all members' ages, lot of horrible comments with wrong bases.
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@Ray
I don't understand people who don't accept critisme. I find it quite ironic mentioning that mate. I accept critisme, but what I love to do is discuss about opinions I do not agree with. Why? Not because it's funny, but how else you're going to find out what exactly, how exactly somone thinks of your/his belief? I mean alright I accept also the people who do not believ in any of the religions cause they can not be proved (What they think/believe). Which now in my opinion is quite weird, I mean is there any logical explenation why "jesus" was able to heal somone? How he gained that ability? I mean alright people now say, "that's not true you can't prove it", you can't prove it's wrong either, I rather belief millions of people who belief that rather than somone who says it's not true.
I'm pretty sure people did not have any religion, until they've seen facts that proved it and made people believe in it.
:) Don't get me wrong if I might sound offensive, but you all know I can't really write perfectly in English, so I might directly translate things from german that do not sound offensive in german but in English, and I would ofcourse love to have other opinions from people. It's also funny what most people think of the islam.. which is quite sad due the fact the media can manipulate so many people which causes all of those existing fights atm.
I actually accept criticism, but if you're referring to my last reply on this topic, i was actually explaining to him how to compare stuff.
Don't know why mentioned me here tho...
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I believe in destiny and hard work...rest is in hands of god...
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@Ray You post so much u cant even remember :D
Well i have no idea if fisu accepts criticism or not, but i rather not mess with someone's belief.
And looking at his reply, he's a strong believer.
So i rather not try to say anything.
Simple :)
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@Ray You post so much u cant even remember :D
Well i have no idea if fisu accepts criticism or not, but i rather not mess with someone's belief.
And looking at his reply, he's a strong believer.
So i rather not try to say anything.
Simple :)
It's not the fact that i post so much that made me confused...
It's the fact that you used:
I don't understand people who don't accept critisme
While i accused you of not accepting criticism.
So that got me lost there :/ My bad.