Are you a theist or atheist ?

[Red Mist]

Does anyone watch ancient aliens

[Fisu]

Do you believe in "God" ? Why ? Yes, as there is no actual proof how everything happend on this earth and scientists fail to give us proper Explanation how everything happend, I believe there is a god. Why? Very simple: If you are in the Sahara and  wee see the White house there, and I would tell you, this happend after a lightnig hit the place. Would you believe it? No, how come you believe that the "Big Bang" has managed to make this perfect world?. If a simple "PEN" has it's owner, how come you believe the world which is Perfect, does not have an owner?
Do you believe in any religion ? (If yes, what religion ?) Why (example : my parents believe in the same religion as me) Yes the Islam.
What is your point of view regarding Science and do you make a link between the religion you believe in and Science ? I believe in the science yes, but not regarding how the world or the big bang happend, as at the Point that they cant answer they say: "Science is not good enough to proof that at the Moment".
Any other additional information ? For anyone interested "The Purpose of Life"

As you see I haven't inuslted anyone, please if you disagree, then disagree without insulting.

[Rawrplus]

Do you believe in "God" ? Why ? Yes, as there is no actual proof how everything happend on this earth and scientists fail to give us proper Explanation how everything happend, I believe there is a god. Why? Very simple: If you are in the Sahara and  wee see the White house there, and I would tell you, this happend after a lightnig hit the place. Would you believe it? No, how come you believe that the "Big Bang" has managed to make this perfect world?. If a simple "PEN" has it's owner, how come you believe the world which is Perfect, does not have an owner?
Do you believe in any religion ? (If yes, what religion ?) Why (example : my parents believe in the same religion as me) Yes the Islam.
What is your point of view regarding Science and do you make a link between the religion you believe in and Science ? I believe in the science yes, but not regarding how the world or the big bang happend, as at the Point that they cant answer they say: "Science is not good enough to proof that at the Moment".
Any other additional information ? For anyone interested "The Purpose of Life"

As you see I haven't inuslted anyone, please if you disagree, then disagree without insulting.

I'm not trying to derail your theory, after all I'm religious myself, but there is scientific proof for things like Bing bang theory or even evoltion (eg. corpses / skeletal of Neanderthal, cave paintings, sculptures, en-stoned remains of pre-evolution animals) - while existence of God is a mere assumption. Also, we have had the chance of seeing effects of same pattern in space on other space objects, it would be only logical conclusion.

There's nothing wrong with being religious as a belief, but when you start disregarding actual facts that are more than likely to be true, then it starts to cloud your vision.

Also, if going by your argument, if you're disregarding bing bang theory/other way of thinking, that's not entirely proven yet, how can you justify existence of religion?
Double standards suck.

[Ray]

Do you believe in "God" ? Why ? Yes, as there is no actual proof how everything happend on this earth and scientists fail to give us proper Explanation how everything happend, I believe there is a god. Why? Very simple: If you are in the Sahara and  wee see the White house there, and I would tell you, this happend after a lightnig hit the place. Would you believe it? No, how come you believe that the "Big Bang" has managed to make this perfect world?. If a simple "PEN" has it's owner, how come you believe the world which is Perfect, does not have an owner?
Do you believe in any religion ? (If yes, what religion ?) Why (example : my parents believe in the same religion as me) Yes the Islam.
What is your point of view regarding Science and do you make a link between the religion you believe in and Science ? I believe in the science yes, but not regarding how the world or the big bang happend, as at the Point that they cant answer they say: "Science is not good enough to proof that at the Moment".
Any other additional information ? For anyone interested "The Purpose of Life"

As you see I haven't inuslted anyone, please if you disagree, then disagree without insulting.

I'm not trying to derail your theory, after all I'm religious myself, but there is scientific proof for things like Bing bang theory or even evoltion (eg. corpses / skeletal of neandrtalia, cave paintings, sculptures, en-stoned remains of pre-evolution animals) - while existence of God is a mere assumption.

You should check up on facts before going into an argument

I was gonna reply to him but i found myself a little offensive doing it....
Fisu please watch "Through the wormhole" season 1 at least
It's fun

[Fisu]

Do you believe in "God" ? Why ? Yes, as there is no actual proof how everything happend on this earth and scientists fail to give us proper Explanation how everything happend, I believe there is a god. Why? Very simple: If you are in the Sahara and  wee see the White house there, and I would tell you, this happend after a lightnig hit the place. Would you believe it? No, how come you believe that the "Big Bang" has managed to make this perfect world?. If a simple "PEN" has it's owner, how come you believe the world which is Perfect, does not have an owner?
Do you believe in any religion ? (If yes, what religion ?) Why (example : my parents believe in the same religion as me) Yes the Islam.
What is your point of view regarding Science and do you make a link between the religion you believe in and Science ? I believe in the science yes, but not regarding how the world or the big bang happend, as at the Point that they cant answer they say: "Science is not good enough to proof that at the Moment".
Any other additional information ? For anyone interested "The Purpose of Life"

As you see I haven't inuslted anyone, please if you disagree, then disagree without insulting.

I'm not trying to derail your theory, after all I'm religious myself, but there is scientific proof for things like Bing bang theory or even evoltion (eg. corpses / skeletal of Neanderthal, cave paintings, sculptures, en-stoned remains of pre-evolution animals) - while existence of God is a mere assumption. Also, we have had the chance of seeing effects of same pattern in space on other space objects, it would be only logical conclusion.

There's nothing wrong with being religious as a belief, but when you start disregarding actual facts that are more than likely to be true, then it starts to cloud your vision.

Also, if going by your argument, if you're disregarding bing bang theory/other way of thinking, that's not entirely proven yet, how can you justify existence of religion?
Double standards suck.

I don't disagree on the Facts of the big bang, but rather on the People that believe it came out of nothing. Zero + Zero can not possibly give you one. I think that all of that has been cause by god - as the big bang in my eyes can not create such a world that we have now. Sorry if I wasn't clear enough which made this misunderstanding, I believe in science and I believe in their theory mostly, but I disagree that they say there is no god and it's all Logical

[Voidist]

Big Bang - 1cell creatures - Evolution of the living - Humanoid monkey ( Such as australopitheceus) type creature - Human - Society nowadays.
What prooves this is the evolution of human knowledge over centuries, such as Geographycal discoveries, physical and mathematical theories and from very beginning - ability to use materials and building with them. Also, discoveries make technologies.
Human evoluates over time, it's Common sense increases until a certain point. It's like human species change during eras.
What prooves a Big Bang is that Nowadays we know that certain materials or chemicals can be explosive. The coinsidence could be that the thing that exploded to make our typical Sun System could have contained a lot of those chemicals. Object could not handle that pressure and spit in pieces.

Basically, my point here is - Saying that god exists is like saying that Teddy Bears can talk.

My only question is - What kind of living objects were on that thing before it made the BANG, if there were any living in the first place.

[lopedog]

Do you believe in "God" ? Why ? Yes, as there is no actual proof how everything happend on this earth and scientists fail to give us proper Explanation how everything happend, I believe there is a god. Why? Very simple: If you are in the Sahara and  wee see the White house there, and I would tell you, this happend after a lightnig hit the place. Would you believe it? No, how come you believe that the "Big Bang" has managed to make this perfect world?. If a simple "PEN" has it's owner, how come you believe the world which is Perfect, does not have an owner?
Do you believe in any religion ? (If yes, what religion ?) Why (example : my parents believe in the same religion as me) Yes the Islam.
What is your point of view regarding Science and do you make a link between the religion you believe in and Science ? I believe in the science yes, but not regarding how the world or the big bang happend, as at the Point that they cant answer they say: "Science is not good enough to proof that at the Moment".
Any other additional information ? For anyone interested "The Purpose of Life"

As you see I haven't inuslted anyone, please if you disagree, then disagree without insulting.

I'm not trying to derail your theory, after all I'm religious myself, but there is scientific proof for things like Bing bang theory or even evoltion (eg. corpses / skeletal of neandrtalia, cave paintings, sculptures, en-stoned remains of pre-evolution animals) - while existence of God is a mere assumption.

You should check up on facts before going into an argument

I was gonna reply to him but i found myself a little offensive doing it....
Fisu please watch "Through the wormhole" season 1 at least
It's fun

I have that problem when I speak to theists. It's not what you say is offensive, it's just a lot of them take it badly being told their belief is wrong. To be honest I just usually avoid having religious/philosophical conversations with people unless they can accept criticism of their views, to me it's not rational to believe in a god.

Richard Dawkins is a must read for everyone. Especially the Blind Watchmaker for people who struggle with the concept of evolution.

 

[Ray]

Do you believe in "God" ? Why ? Yes, as there is no actual proof how everything happend on this earth and scientists fail to give us proper Explanation how everything happend, I believe there is a god. Why? Very simple: If you are in the Sahara and  wee see the White house there, and I would tell you, this happend after a lightnig hit the place. Would you believe it? No, how come you believe that the "Big Bang" has managed to make this perfect world?. If a simple "PEN" has it's owner, how come you believe the world which is Perfect, does not have an owner?
Do you believe in any religion ? (If yes, what religion ?) Why (example : my parents believe in the same religion as me) Yes the Islam.
What is your point of view regarding Science and do you make a link between the religion you believe in and Science ? I believe in the science yes, but not regarding how the world or the big bang happend, as at the Point that they cant answer they say: "Science is not good enough to proof that at the Moment".
Any other additional information ? For anyone interested "The Purpose of Life"

As you see I haven't inuslted anyone, please if you disagree, then disagree without insulting.

I'm not trying to derail your theory, after all I'm religious myself, but there is scientific proof for things like Bing bang theory or even evoltion (eg. corpses / skeletal of neandrtalia, cave paintings, sculptures, en-stoned remains of pre-evolution animals) - while existence of God is a mere assumption.

You should check up on facts before going into an argument

I was gonna reply to him but i found myself a little offensive doing it....
Fisu please watch "Through the wormhole" season 1 at least
It's fun

I have that problem when I speak to theists. It's not what you say is offensive, it's just a lot of them take it badly being told their belief is wrong. To be honest I just usually avoid having religious/philosophical conversations with people unless they can accept criticism of their views, to me it's not rational to believe in a god.

Richard Dawkins is a must read for everyone. Especially the Blind Watchmaker for people who struggle with the concept of evolution.

Well i have no idea if fisu accepts criticism or not, but i rather not mess with someone's belief.
And looking at his reply, he's a strong believer.
So i rather not try to say anything.
Simple

[lopedog]

Do you believe in "God" ? Why ? Yes, as there is no actual proof how everything happend on this earth and scientists fail to give us proper Explanation how everything happend, I believe there is a god. Why? Very simple: If you are in the Sahara and  wee see the White house there, and I would tell you, this happend after a lightnig hit the place. Would you believe it? No, how come you believe that the "Big Bang" has managed to make this perfect world?. If a simple "PEN" has it's owner, how come you believe the world which is Perfect, does not have an owner?
Do you believe in any religion ? (If yes, what religion ?) Why (example : my parents believe in the same religion as me) Yes the Islam.
What is your point of view regarding Science and do you make a link between the religion you believe in and Science ? I believe in the science yes, but not regarding how the world or the big bang happend, as at the Point that they cant answer they say: "Science is not good enough to proof that at the Moment".
Any other additional information ? For anyone interested "The Purpose of Life"

As you see I haven't inuslted anyone, please if you disagree, then disagree without insulting.

I'm not trying to derail your theory, after all I'm religious myself, but there is scientific proof for things like Bing bang theory or even evoltion (eg. corpses / skeletal of neandrtalia, cave paintings, sculptures, en-stoned remains of pre-evolution animals) - while existence of God is a mere assumption.

You should check up on facts before going into an argument

I was gonna reply to him but i found myself a little offensive doing it....
Fisu please watch "Through the wormhole" season 1 at least
It's fun

I have that problem when I speak to theists. It's not what you say is offensive, it's just a lot of them take it badly being told their belief is wrong. To be honest I just usually avoid having religious/philosophical conversations with people unless they can accept criticism of their views, to me it's not rational to believe in a god.

Richard Dawkins is a must read for everyone. Especially the Blind Watchmaker for people who struggle with the concept of evolution.

Well i have no idea if fisu accepts criticism or not, but i rather not mess with someone's belief.
And looking at his reply, he's a strong believer.
So i rather not try to say anything.
Simple

Trying to convince him to change his belief would be wrong. It's why i dislike many Christians here as they can be quite forceful in their views. (Northern Ireland is the most backwards country in Western Europe).

An open discussion, where people can listen to what you say, and answer your points and provide their own views without getting offended is fine. I have met many religious people who can do this, I've also met many who can't.

I'd refer all the theists to my Bertrand Russel point earlier though, it's very hard to argue with that logic, and he made that point about 120 years ago lol.

[ArKy-]

atheism  is like a fish denying the  exictence of the water -_-

[Ray]

atheism  is like a fish denying the  exictence of the water -_-

Not the same thing.
If Atheism is a fish, the water is the world. Then god would be the being that created the water. That's how you compare.

['PL']

You know guys, you are kinda trying to prove your point with inclusion of superiority referrals that your opinion is correct. Just say are you either a godboi or scienceboi and that's it

No need serve me fish

[Voidist]

You know guys, you are kinda trying to prove your point with inclusion of superiority referrals that your opinion is correct. Just say are you either a godboi or scienceboi and that's it

No need serve me fish

Gumball shall serve you pirannhas of the Void, mate.
OT ->
Science is an atheist thing. It's explained with theories through centuries.
It's exactly what made me believe in big bang and Evolution.

Has anyone else mentioned - Evolution of the breathing being? Anyone?

[Rawrplus]

atheism  is like a fish denying the  exictence of the water -_-

An unrelated baseless comparison is like a post I quote.

[Phantoms]

Do you believe in "God" ? Why ? no , i believe in charliecharlie jkjk i believe in God and forever

[SilverQuick]

I see more theists than atheists in this topic.

P.S. I believe in god.

[Fisu]

@Ray

I don't understand people who don't accept critisme. I find it quite ironic mentioning that mate. I accept critisme, but what I love to do is discuss about opinions I do not agree with. Why? Not because it's funny, but how else you're going to find out what exactly, how exactly somone thinks of your/his belief? I mean alright I accept also the people who do not believ in any of the religions cause they can not be proved (What they think/believe). Which now in my opinion is quite weird, I mean is there any logical explenation why "jesus" was able to heal somone? How he gained that ability? I mean alright people now say, "that's not true you can't prove it", you can't prove it's wrong either, I rather belief millions of people who belief that rather than somone who says it's not true.

I'm pretty sure people did not have any religion, until they've seen facts that proved it and made people believe in it.

Don't get me wrong if I might sound offensive, but you all know I can't really write perfectly in English, so I might directly translate things from german that do not sound offensive in german but in English, and I would ofcourse love to have other opinions from people. It's also funny what most people think of the islam.. which is quite sad due the fact the media can manipulate so many people which causes all of those existing fights atm.

[Killerftw]

I find this thread very inappropriate and not suited for all members' ages, lot of horrible comments with wrong bases.

[Ray]

@Ray

I don't understand people who don't accept critisme. I find it quite ironic mentioning that mate. I accept critisme, but what I love to do is discuss about opinions I do not agree with. Why? Not because it's funny, but how else you're going to find out what exactly, how exactly somone thinks of your/his belief? I mean alright I accept also the people who do not believ in any of the religions cause they can not be proved (What they think/believe). Which now in my opinion is quite weird, I mean is there any logical explenation why "jesus" was able to heal somone? How he gained that ability? I mean alright people now say, "that's not true you can't prove it", you can't prove it's wrong either, I rather belief millions of people who belief that rather than somone who says it's not true.

I'm pretty sure people did not have any religion, until they've seen facts that proved it and made people believe in it.

Don't get me wrong if I might sound offensive, but you all know I can't really write perfectly in English, so I might directly translate things from german that do not sound offensive in german but in English, and I would ofcourse love to have other opinions from people. It's also funny what most people think of the islam.. which is quite sad due the fact the media can manipulate so many people which causes all of those existing fights atm.

I actually accept criticism, but if you're referring to my last reply on this topic, i was actually explaining to him how to compare stuff.
Don't know why mentioned me here tho...

[RAMBATEN]

I believe in destiny and hard work...rest is in hands of god...