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Title: Headadmin Complain against: Next and an heads-up for Monster
Post by: Sight on January 19, 2013, 11:29:47 am
Admin: Next & Monster (pretty much)
Server: Jailbreak
Date & Time: Yesterday.... 13:23
Complaint: Admins Lying, Freeshooting, Disobeying their own Rules
Other Evidence (screenshots, demos...):


i wont post the demo untill "Next" proves his point without logs. logs can be manipulated, i dont have to post prove or evidence untill next has his own prove in means of SS or Demo.

Story:
Sight joins jailbreak, plays a couple of rounds but buys cellkeys to get out, however i dont rebel, i use them keys to run to the cage okay?.

when im in the cage i just wait and do nothing, well on one day this headadmin guy "Next" freeshoots me inside the cage when NO COMMAND IS GIVEN! (NONE).

i just said that if he continues to freeshoot me i'll make sure he will get demoted in terms of using the forum as my power since im an free man and i am allowed to use that.

well since most people know me, and most of the staff dont know me inside the server a little intro about me:

I am a guy who is strict with the rules but still can have some fun. i am pretty sure that 90% of the jailbreak players that play in jailbreak can prove my story about being VERY strict with them rules.


Story continues:
i just wonder, why Next is allowed to quit me for this sentence:

Edited:Am not gonna go off topic again and post another reply but i'll just edit this post, Since your saying that you said that you will only report me + MonsteR told me i should've quited you for provoking me but i didn't take any action, Well i found this in the logs :o
STEAM_0:1:43155156><*******ip> Sight : free shoot one more time and ill make sure you will get demoted
19:23:24 <STEAM_0:1:43155156><********ip> Sight : freeshoot more

this is no reason for an admin to quit an player, the admin is wrong in this very case by freeshooting.

funny part of this whole story:

Their were 2 CT's at the time, i pretty much assumed both of them were admins.
I didnt knew who was shooting at me, i never know untill next made the post i quoted above.
Logs can be checked, i never called out an name, i was buzy typing because of being afraid to be killed by this freeshooter.


isnt this wrong? Next just openly admitted to Freeshooting. i never said "stop freeshooting next", he just openly admitted it was him and im still wrong?


this admin is just randomly freeshooting on people, really? as headadmin you need to know the rules of all the servers.

and for monster, you cannot quit someone that says such a thing, you really need to get used to ur own rules, you didnt even knew the story.


i would like to know their side of the story, you not just talking to an player here you know, i have my brains with me next, you openly admitted urself and still say i am wrong?


i know what im going to do next time im in Jailbreak, freeshoot all Terrorists since it is allowed!

This report is mainly against next since he does what he wants in jailbreak breaking them ambrosia laws.

however for monster it is more to open his damn eyes and see what is behind all this, and before he says to an admin he can quit people he needs to get to know his own laws.
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and please dont come with this "no evidence is no report", Next can't go inside the logs and grab evidence against me aswell, he needs screenshots or demo's.

i would like to ask this to be unlucked and not to be locked untill its solved, this next is an bad admin and he just proved it himself
Title: Re: Headadmin Complain against: Next and an headsup for Monster
Post by: Shane on January 19, 2013, 11:32:47 am
Well for starters if you wish to make a complaint against a admin or a player YOU have to provide evidence.
Title: Re: Headadmin Complain against: Next and an headsup for Monster
Post by: Ray on January 19, 2013, 11:34:45 am
Shane he said he will ...
and Sight ... if the story is how you said it is .... You are correct ... it's wrong  ... but
if you really provoked NexT ... he can even ban you ...
let's wait their reply ... i'm sure he didn't do such thing
Title: Re: Headadmin Complain against: Next and an headsup for Monster
Post by: Sight on January 19, 2013, 11:35:04 am
Well for starters if you wish to make a complaint against a admin or a player YOU have to provide evidence.

he openly admitted he was wrong, please reread my post before you post, i cant see how you read this all in 1 minute.

Shane he said he will ...
and Sight ... if the story is how you said it is .... You are correct ... it's wrong  ... but
if you really provoked NexT ... he can even ban you ...
let's wait their reply ... i'm sure he didn't do such thing
funny part of this whole story:

Their were 2 CT's at the time, i pretty much assumed both of them were admins.
I didnt knew who was shooting at me, i never know untill next made the post i quoted above.
Logs can be checked, i never called out an name, i was buzy typing because of being afraid to be killed by this freeshooter.
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isnt this wrong? Next just openly admitted to Freeshooting. i never said "stop freeshooting next", he just openly admitted it was him and im still wrong?


quoted from above, 2 admins who cant read.
Title: Re: Headadmin Complain against: Next and an headsup for Monster
Post by: Shane on January 19, 2013, 11:39:06 am
Shane he said he will ...
and Sight ... if the story is how you said it is .... You are correct ... it's wrong  ... but
if you really provoked NexT ... he can even ban you ...
let's wait their reply ... i'm sure he didn't do such thing

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i wont post the demo untill "Next" proves his point without logs. logs can be manipulated, i dont have to post prove or evidence untill next has his own prove in means of SS or Demo

That bit kind of told me he wouldn't.

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isnt this wrong? Next just openly admitted to Freeshooting. i never said "stop freeshooting next", he just openly admitted it was him and im still wrong?


quoted from above, 2 admins who cant read.

I can read it but what i am not seeing is any actual evidence just you saying check logs i'm not posting demo.
Title: Re: Headadmin Complain against: Next and an headsup for Monster
Post by: ChiKo on January 19, 2013, 11:40:27 am
yeah i noticed so many times that he is overreacting
Title: Re: Headadmin Complain against: Next and an headsup for Monster
Post by: Sight on January 19, 2013, 11:42:55 am
I can read it but what i am not seeing is any actual evidence just you saying check logs i'm not posting demo.

its the same as he was aimbotting, and then keeps denying it and ends up openly admitting it on the forums.
Title: Re: Headadmin Complain against: Next and an headsup for Monster
Post by: Ed on January 19, 2013, 11:50:01 am
Technically he wasn't in wrong. If you are out of the cells before the cells are opened either by CT or auto 7.00, then it counts as rebelling and you can be killed. Even if the command is not given, you shouldn't be out of cells before 7.00 unless CT opens cells without command which is FD.

Also you did provoke him.
I'm not defending anyone, but that's how I see it.

Title: Re: Headadmin Complain against: Next and an headsup for Monster
Post by: NexT on January 19, 2013, 11:53:10 am
1)I like it when you said that logs aren't a proof so you think that i edited them,For your own info i didn't get the logs because i didn't find them i talked to raven about what happened and told him couldn't find this sentence that sight said, well he found it for me maybe if you don't trust/believe me but you trust and believe raven  ;)

2)I'am 100% sure that haters will join you in this complaint since some of them hate me and maybe hate monster ..

3)I know rules even more than any admin/player,I am a trusted jailbreak player .. A proof ? Before i got promoted to Head Admin,I was a Jailbreak admin i was trusted with the rules and stuff and i got promoted to a Parliament member,If you don't know whats parliament member, Parliament members are admins who are trusted and could discuss some stuff with the Jailbreak head admin,Nothing more and nothing less but Trusted.

4)I would like you to upload your demo,I wanna see how many shots i shot you since you said i made your HP 7 well we will see after you upload

5)About admitting,Yes i admit I free shot you about how much times i shot you the demo can show  ;) and i would like you a Screenshot on how much points you got on Ambrosia server,Since you abused points before you leave  ;) (Ambrosia not any other server)

6)Lets wait for Owner's Or Jailbreak Head Admin
  ;D
Title: Re: Headadmin Complain against: Next and an headsup for Monster
Post by: Ray on January 19, 2013, 12:07:55 pm
Umm .. i checked logs and yes .... the quote about the logs ... is correct ... nothing modified

19:22:55  Sight : free shooting?
19:23:21  Sight : free shoot one more time and ill make sure you will get demoted
19:23:24  Sight : freeshoot more


That's what i found .... well without the demo to clear things up nothing will be solved ... upload it ..
(i wonder where was i when that happened .... i was on server tho o.O and i picked a CT too ..)
Well .... upload demo .. you wanted next to reply .. and he did . upload ..
So far it's a useless report
Title: Re: Headadmin Complain against: Next and an headsup for Monster
Post by: Fisu on January 19, 2013, 12:13:37 pm
1)I like it when you said that logs aren't a proof so you think that i edited them,For your own info i didn't get the logs because i didn't find them i talked to raven about what happened and told him couldn't find this sentence that sight said, well he found it for me maybe if you don't trust/believe me but you trust and believe raven  ;)

2)I'am 100% sure that haters will join you in this complaint since some of them hate me and maybe hate monster ..

3)I know rules even more than any admin/player,I am a trusted jailbreak player .. A proof ? Before i got promoted to Head Admin,I was a Jailbreak admin i was trusted with the rules and stuff and i got promoted to a Parliament member,If you don't know whats parliament member, Parliament members are admins who are trusted and could discuss some stuff with the Jailbreak head admin,Nothing more and nothing less but Trusted.

4)I would like you to upload your demo,I wanna see how many shots i shot you since you said i made your HP 7 well we will see after you upload

5)About admitting,Yes i admit I free shot you  about how much times i shot you the demo can show  ;) and i would like you a Screenshot on how much points you got on Ambrosia server,Since you abused points before you leave  ;) (Ambrosia not any other server)

6)Lets wait for Owner's Or Jailbreak Head Admin
  ;D


He adminited. For sure that gonna be just a warn for him ;). About " all can say i have the demo" But if you dont post it then you dont got one. Post it, so we all can see what really happend. And what i think is you really provokated him and thats on the Demo and your scared to post it. If you post the demo i can see that im wrong.

PS: neXt is a very good admin there is a reason why hes an Head now. He follows rules very well. Hes one of the Best admins in JB.
Title: Re: Headadmin Complain against: Next and an headsup for Monster
Post by: JnaN- GM? on January 19, 2013, 12:16:42 pm
Technically he wasn't in wrong. If you are out of the cells before the cells are opened either by CT or auto 7.00, then it counts as rebelling and you can be killed. Even if the command is not given, you shouldn't be out of cells before 7.00 unless CT opens cells without command which is FD.

Also you did provoke him.
I'm not defending anyone, but that's how I see it.

If he is running around the map it is rebelling but he was already in the cage.. how is this rebelling? I'm not defending anyone too.
NexT admitted  but to be "demoted" cmooon.... Every admin make mistakes sometimes.. I have seen admins freekilling, i have done it too by mistake, now what? let's demote our ass, eh?
Title: Re: Headadmin Complain against: Next and an headsup for Monster
Post by: Sight on January 19, 2013, 12:21:34 pm
Umm .. i checked logs and yes .... the quote about the logs ... is correct ... nothing modified

19:22:55  Sight : free shooting?
19:23:21  Sight : free shoot one more time and ill make sure you will get demoted
19:23:24  Sight : freeshoot more


That's what i found .... well without the demo to clear things up nothing will be solved ... upload it ..
(i wonder where was i when that happened .... i was on server tho o.O and i picked a CT too ..)
Well .... upload demo .. you wanted next to reply .. and he did . upload ..
So far it's a useless report


like said above im not uploading an demo untill he has an demo against me, as an admin you have to ss and demo everything always. that is an basic administration rule.

you just admitted again you were wrong again man, its the same as having an aimbot, someone notices and you admit it. you are the one being wrong in this case ;).

and again i say: i won't post the demo, Next accused me of something with the power of the logs which is unfair, go check the logs about the "hits made in the server"

you will see next shot on me while i said that, he was just taunting on me just so to **** me off, this is basicly challenging someone

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19:22:55  Sight : free shooting?
19:23:21  Sight : free shoot one more time and ill make sure you will get demoted
19:23:24  Sight : freeshoot more

as you can see, there was an 30 second window when he kept shooting me.

Demo will only be posted if Next has his own evidence against ME, in terms of an Screenshot or an Demo, if this admin cant take evidence of things im sorry not my fault.


Technically he wasn't in wrong. If you are out of the cells before the cells are opened either by CT or auto 7.00, then it counts as rebelling and you can be killed. Even if the command is not given, you shouldn't be out of cells before 7.00 unless CT opens cells without command which is FD.

Also you did provoke him.
I'm not defending anyone, but that's how I see it.



rules state otherwise samii, i hate to prove you wrong mate but ever since i started playing jb for the very first time i know all of the rules..:

- CTs cannot attack or kill prisoners for no reason,
even if the prisoner has and throws flash or grenade if it doesn't inflict any damage to officers.

24. Any rule not listed here is not a jailbreak rule. (leaving cell before an command is given is not rebelling as you say.)

i hope you understand my point sami. this is just freeshooting, and like said in the starting post of this topic i did this nearly everyday and they didnt shoot me, i am just sitting in the cage before an command was given. noone ever say "leave ur cells and u die".

there is no such rule about this kind of rebelling idea of you...


Title: Re: Headadmin Complain against: Next and an headsup for Monster
Post by: thEnd on January 19, 2013, 12:24:46 pm
About monster. He can quit someone. As admin job is to keep server steady and calm so sometimes it takes to send someone to chill.
Otherwise free shooting without explanation is wrong. And next admitted that.
So story will end soon I guess.
Title: Re: Headadmin Complain against: Next and an heads-up for Monster
Post by: Sight on January 19, 2013, 12:49:59 pm
just an final question to next before ill log of till tonight.

why did you continue to freeshoot on me all of the sudden? just why?, i even said "Freeshooting?" and you just kept going? do you even know the jailbreak rules? or you just wanted to abuse a bit with your position? i wasnt the one provoking here, he was the one.

he shot me.
me: "freeshooting?"
(started demo)
shot shot shot.
me: "freeshoot more and ill make sure you will get demoted."
shot one more time
me: "freeshoot more"
left me on 8 hp for no reason.

as you can even see from the logs, the 30 second window is more then enough to shoot me more for no specific reason, he was the one provoking me, i was just defending myself and standing by my own rights.

this report is not really aimed on monster, but before monster says something he should get to the bottem of the issue.


just why did you kept provoking me? i didnt provoke you, you did it on me, as i remember you are still on trial HA.

even an UC/Emperor can't provoke people, so why can a trial headadmin can?
Title: Re: Headadmin Complain against: Next and an heads-up for Monster
Post by: Ed on January 19, 2013, 12:53:03 pm
Some rules aren't written, there could be thousand other rules for every each of situation and as you I have too been playing JB for a long time and I participated in creating rules. So if you think about it, you shouldn't be out of the cells before they are opened. 3 ways to be out of cells - vent, cell keys, boosting. 2 of them, vent and boosting is more or less in the rules. Although vent is your hide out and Ct can't do anything, where they can say no boosting allowed, that rule should be added. About cell keys, that's a rebel option, actually almost everything from shop is rebel options. Even if you were in the cage, I am allowed to kill you, although I wouldn't since you are such a nice guy, buying cell keys just to be first in the cage haha.
Tho I understand where you are coming from, the rules don't also state this so technically no one is in wrong, but I'd say you are still wrong for trying to be too nice ;)
Title: Re: Headadmin Complain against: Next and an heads-up for Monster
Post by: Sight on January 19, 2013, 12:55:59 pm
the rules don't also state this so technically no one is in wrong, but I'd say you are still wrong for trying to be too nice ;)

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24. Any rule not listed here is not a jailbreak rule.

i keep on going on this answer since its the most solid answer i can provide, like i said sami, i did this days and days, however i dont rebel with keys, i was inside the cage of all time, this just suddenly happend after 5 jailbreak days, all were the same just the freeshooting on me was different.
Title: Re: Headadmin Complain against: Next and an heads-up for Monster
Post by: Ed on January 19, 2013, 12:59:01 pm
Well then I think the rule should be stripped since the unlisted rules for different situations also apply. I cant think straight in my head the situations, but there are the so called silent rules.
I wish we had JB with no rules :D Admins make them, simple, fair and easy. No thousand and one rule.
Title: Re: Headadmin Complain against: Next and an heads-up for Monster
Post by: NexT on January 19, 2013, 12:59:47 pm
@Sight i wonder what kind of a player that can handle 5 shots and not to die with an M4A1 well maybe your superman or something  :D
and btw i won't tell you anything till you post the demo and we all see it and see what happened and decide,If you say you wont upload it till i get a proof mate Am really sorry to say that but you are confused of your lies. You complained and reported me not i did .. so you should get a proof not me :D

@Sami mate just wanted to clear 1 thing, He wasn't opening the cell with a cellkey to be the 1st in the cage but to show us that he is full of points as he abused before he left and he gets not only cellkeys but nades,disguise,invisiblity,crowbar ..etc.

Thank you all i will NOT reply on this complaint,Once i see a proof which is a demo which everyone is telling you to show it that i made your HP7 with 5 M4A1 shots and your not uploading we will wait.

Reminder:Mr sight this report is useless without your demo
  ;D
Title: Re: Headadmin Complain against: Next and an heads-up for Monster
Post by: Pim on January 19, 2013, 01:09:59 pm
well,

As i can see what happened is that Sight bought cell keys and ran to the cage, at this moment nobody said leave your cells or you die, and if someone uses cell keys to be the first one inside the cage, come on are we seriously calling that rebelling?
Then once Sight is in the cage Next started to warnshoot him (but there was no command for him to follow), this makes it a freeshoot, if Next would have said: "get back in your cell", it would have been a warnshoot, yet he didn't.
Sight asked why he freeshotted and Next continues to shoot at Sight without giving him a command, therefore i would agree to Sight that Next was provoking Sight as well. Sight got mad and said he would get the one freeshoting demoted, this is just a reaction on the freeshots he got.

Also Sight was here way before the shop was here in jailbreak, therefore he had 16000 points and could have bought whatever he wanted, same happened to Ninja who just bought cell keys 24/7. Thats not abusing.

So yes i would say Next is the wrong one.

Pim

P.S. Nothing personal
Title: Re: Headadmin Complain against: Next and an heads-up for Monster
Post by: tajski on January 19, 2013, 01:49:38 pm
well,

As i can see what happened is that Sight bought cell keys and ran to the cage, at this moment nobody said leave your cells or you die, and if someone uses cell keys to be the first one inside the cage, come on are we seriously calling that rebelling?
Then once Sight is in the cage Next started to warnshoot him (but there was no command for him to follow), this makes it a freeshoot, if Next would have said: "get back in your cell", it would have been a warnshoot, yet he didn't.
Sight asked why he freeshotted and Next continues to shoot at Sight without giving him a command, therefore i would agree to Sight that Next was provoking Sight as well. Sight got mad and said he would get the one freeshoting demoted, this is just a reaction on the freeshots he got.

Also Sight was here way before the shop was here in jailbreak, therefore he had 16000 points and could have bought whatever he wanted, same happened to Ninja who just bought cell keys 24/7. Thats not abusing.

So yes i would say Next is the wrong one.

Pim

P.S. Nothing personal

I wanted to post exact same thing but you were the first one to post it.

Anyway, Sight is right in this case, NexT is wrong. Simple :)
Title: Re: Headadmin Complain against: Next and an heads-up for Monster
Post by: thEnd on January 19, 2013, 02:19:51 pm
Roflmao next.
Once you admitted that you freeshooted. Now in the last reply you stated that this is useless without demo  and that you will not reply without demo..
But you, and other witnesses told the same story.
You admitted that you freeshooted now you deny?
Why we need demo? I don't think that you or others are lying.
Title: Re: Headadmin Complain against: Next and an heads-up for Monster
Post by: Critical on January 19, 2013, 02:24:36 pm
Yeah sight is right at this moment, But i want to see the demo is there anything changed or..?
Title: Re: Headadmin Complain against: Next and an heads-up for Monster
Post by: NexT on January 19, 2013, 02:25:09 pm
@theend 1st have you ever seen a complaint without a proof ? 2nd i want to see the demo problem ?Why is he trying not to upload the demo is something hidden ?

@Every specially pim and frag , I would like you to check the demo after he upload it 1st before you give your dicision,And btw tho even if i freeshooted him as he said , he said 5 shots with m4A1 and he still had 7 hp i don't know how is it possible but ok lets say example it happened.I want the demo to be shown to ALL ambrosian members first after everyone checks the demo everyone gives his opinion ;)

P.S: I wonder why sight has been replying over and over and try avoiding to post the demo
  ::) I also wanna see the 5 shots with M4A1 that made you 7 HP which should have killed you with 4 shots but you got 5 and still with 7 hp what a super man ::)
Title: Re: Headadmin Complain against: Next and an heads-up for Monster
Post by: Critical on January 19, 2013, 02:30:07 pm
Well hes not a superman,
But its you next :D
You can't aim maybe you shooted through a little wall then it damaged 11 instead of 24-23+!!?
Title: Re: Headadmin Complain against: Next and an heads-up for Monster
Post by: MonsteR on January 19, 2013, 08:30:09 pm
Well i have few questions:


1st.  Why he hell is my name on the topic when i wasnt even in the server?

2nd.  Why you need Next to post a demo? I mean he has to record how was he freeshot you or what? As he didnt take any action what demo you need of?

3rd.  Can you prove he shot you more then 1 time? Because Next admited he did shot you when i talked with him on steam but you are saying there were more shots which left you on 7hp and Next is saying you had more then 7hp as he didnt shoot you that much. Can you prove that with demo or something?


Also for sami: Well we dont really have a rule about that which means leave the cell is allowed. Because like we say on the map Snow for example when some1 gets out from the vent cell before the cells are opened we say "Leave the cell you die" and on map West we say "no boosting or you die" which means the say as if you leave the cell you die. Non of the CTs did that command he was allowed to leave his cell. But if he was going to the gunroom then the CTs can kill him for rebeling same if he was running away. But as he went straight to the cage then there is no reason for which Sight can be killed.


After you answer me the 3 questions i will solve the topic.


Regards,
Monster
Title: Re: Headadmin Complain against: Next and an heads-up for Monster
Post by: Ed on January 19, 2013, 08:44:52 pm
2 years constant JB playing, never heard - leave cells, you die! .....
Title: Re: Headadmin Complain against: Next and an heads-up for Monster
Post by: Ray on January 19, 2013, 08:51:17 pm
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Fail report .... because no demo was given ... and reported 2 of the best people who know the rules ...
and fail reasons ...
i think that i already asked monster about this rule and he's right .. you're wrong Sami
Title: Re: Headadmin Complain against: Next and an heads-up for Monster
Post by: Pim on January 19, 2013, 09:09:37 pm
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Fail report .... because no demo was given ... and reported 2 of the best people who know the rules ...
and fail reasons ...
i think that i already asked monster about this rule and he's right .. you're wrong Sami

This report is mainly against next since he does what he wants in jailbreak breaking them ambrosia laws.

yes it's true that Sight needs a demo, yet i know Sight he is strict and he doesn't tell lies. I'm sure he has a demo.
now could we stop spamming until Sight has replied?
Title: Re: Headadmin Complain against: Next and an heads-up for Monster
Post by: Sight on January 19, 2013, 09:22:57 pm
3rd.  Can you prove he shot you more then 1 time? Because Next admited he did shot you when i talked with him on steam but you are saying there were more shots which left you on 7hp and Next is saying you had more then 7hp as he didnt shoot you that much. Can you prove that with demo or something?

since you and next are so smart and check them logs, find it urself then. calculate the dmg. i was on 7 hp. i did rebel after with my crowbar on a CT with an knife but he killed me with an slash.

like i said this is an report against next on freeshooting and then again on another topic he is proving me wrong while he epenly admits he freeshoots after you say he is allowed to quit me because im an victim of this terrible/abusing Trial-HA.

demo shouldn't be required because he admitted it himself, said by different people on this topic and i know plently of unban topics were people get denied after they say "Sorry i aimbotted" and the admin has no demo.

its just an joke, this all.
next doesnt have an ss or an Demo, he only went to check logs with you to prove me wrong.

as a Ambrosia Admin you should always screenshot or demo an player! Next is accusing me on something with the power of the logs which is unfair, he has no real evidence about my "misbehavior" inside jailbreak.

i am pretty sure if i just take a damn good look on them logs, ill find over 30 admins abusing in all servers and over an thousand players who should be banned.

dont feel bad now, im just using my own rights here in ambrosia, i have the right to report an admin if they misbehave or break any rules, but the admin should always make sure they SS or Demo something before accusing people, taking the logs and using them as prove means ur just ***** lazy to ss or demo anything and broke an ambrosia administration rule as an headadmin.


btw:

Headadmin Pim on my topic: best reply ever. i love you really do, you explained the whole situation with a few sentences.
Title: Re: Headadmin Complain against: Next and an heads-up for Monster
Post by: Duke Devlin on January 19, 2013, 09:37:33 pm
Removed [Offtopic]
-RedShift
Title: Re: Headadmin Complain against: Next and an heads-up for Monster
Post by: Ray on January 19, 2013, 09:38:43 pm
Sorry if i interrupt <3 really ... dont take this as spamming .. i'm doing this as my job as admin because i was there.

You clearly said :
next doesnt have an ss or an Demo, he only went to check logs with you to prove me wrong.
so .. why would he Demo himself ? or demo you ?! if every player he wants to kill as CT if the T rebel, he has to make demo, then all our PCs are full of demos ! i see no reason to demo ! and logs are checked as i clearly replied before ... you only said "freeshoot more" ... and i can go on jb server right now ... get freeshot 1 time and spam : Freeshoot more .. freeshoot more ! as much as i want.
and also ... high ranks check logs from time to time ... even i check logs from time to time ... i don't find abusers -.-
and if i find .. monster knows about them ...
it's not a "misbehavior" it's called "mis understanding" and he should not record you ...
I'm sorry again to say that this is a Fail report with no evidence on what you say ...
you are asking NexT for Demo because you never got a demo ... saying you have one doesn't proof anything
and to be honest i don't think NexT deserves even a warn ...
GL
Title: Re: Headadmin Complain against: Next and an heads-up for Monster
Post by: MonsteR on January 19, 2013, 09:40:47 pm
Sight first when you talk with me have some respect the same way i respect you and dont tell me that i am not smart enough. Because i have never said anything which had ever disrespected you. We had had lots of fun together playing LoL with Arne and i dont think i have done anything bad to recive such a behavior from you.

And on topic well that which you are saying about the topic isnt true. Because admins dont need to take a SS/demo when they kick some1 or even ban some1. A demo or ss is needed ONLY when you ban a cheater. And he didnt took any action against you so he doesnt really need to take any SS as he didnt do anything. And the logs are the place which we always watch when some1 does something bad. So he accused you the logs were checked and you really sayed that so i dont think something more about that must be discused.

About the thing that i say he can quit you i dont really remember as i am always typing with 10 ppl in the same time while reading a topic. So what i remember is that Next told me that you said freeshot me again and I will get you demoted. That is why i said "you can quit him" because i though Next freeshoted you by mistake or something and you started to argue with him i didnt know that the freeshot was dont on perpous. And actualy even if he freeshot you on perpous i find this a bit disrespectful. A member telling a HA that he will demote him... Lets not forget that saying "i will report you" is different from "i will get you demoted". And the first is allowed while the second isnt and the second one can be said only if you are higher rank then the guy who you are talking to which means HA to Admin or Leader/Emperor to HA.

So i dont want my name to be messed with such things as this about me isnt something official. If i came to the server and quited you then i wasnt going to complain about that. Saying something is different from doing it.

Anything more you want to say before i solve it?


Regards,
Monster
Title: Re: Headadmin Complain against: Next and an heads-up for Monster
Post by: Duke Devlin on January 19, 2013, 09:44:01 pm
@Sight i wonder what kind of a player that can handle 5 shots and not to die with an M4A1 well maybe your superman or something  :D
and btw i won't tell you anything till you post the demo and we all see it and see what happened and decide,If you say you wont upload it till i get a proof mate Am really sorry to say that but you are confused of your lies. You complained and reported me not i did .. so you should get a proof not me :D

@Sami mate just wanted to clear 1 thing, He wasn't opening the cell with a cellkey to be the 1st in the cage but to show us that he is full of points as he abused before he left and he gets not only cellkeys but nades,disguise,invisiblity,crowbar ..etc.

Thank you all i will NOT reply on this complaint,Once i see a proof which is a demo which everyone is telling you to show it that i made your HP7 with 5 M4A1 shots and your not uploading we will wait.

Reminder:Mr sight this report is useless without your demo
  ;D

HAHAH BUSTED.
YOU SAY HE BUYS ALL THE STUFF FROM THE SHOP
IMCLUDING ARMOR!
he can easy survive 5 shots with armor  ;)

Title: Re: Headadmin Complain against: Next and an heads-up for Monster
Post by: Wheezy on January 19, 2013, 09:47:39 pm
Okay guys calm down. All this report is getting tensed up. I need you all to calm down since it's just a report not end of the world.
Title: Re: Headadmin Complain against: Next and an heads-up for Monster
Post by: Duke Devlin on January 19, 2013, 09:49:39 pm
Okay guys calm down. All this report is getting tensed up. I need you all to calm down since it's just a report not end of the world.

Let this not be the end of the world.

let it be the end of Next his staff position  :D
Title: Re: Headadmin Complain against: Next and an heads-up for Monster
Post by: Sight on January 19, 2013, 09:51:28 pm
Sorry if i interrupt <3 really ... dont take this as spamming .. i'm doing this as my job as admin because i was there.

NP, i'd rather see an admin doing his job then sitting on his lazy ass.

and also ... high ranks check logs from time to time ... even i check logs from time to time ... i don't find abusers -.-
Then im sorry to say, you would be blind, you are talking to someone who finds EVERYTHING in the logs.

you are asking NexT for Demo because you never got a demo ... saying you have one doesn't proof anything

this is because he is accusing me with logs, i've said it before.
he is the one admitting he was wrong when it comes to freeshooting, i've said several times he was freeshooting and he stopped on the last time.
i never said, i don't have a demo.
going trough logs as an admin is lazy, you dont have to SS anything or demo anything when people swear, he is the one who said he was allowed to quit me, but if he would i would so sue his ass for quiting me without his own evidence.

the moment next provides me an screenshot of me saying those sentences posted in this topic, that moment i will upload this 13.64mb demo on mediafire and post it, accusing players after checking the logs is bleugh.

also, he admitted he was breaking an rule, why make this topic longer with all this spam, its an report against freeshooting and a headadmin should bloody know it isnt allowed to do this in jailbreak, as headadmin you should know all the rules in all servers in whole ambrosia.

Thanks weezy, you finally understand this.

let it be the end of Next his staff position  :D

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Title: Re: Headadmin Complain against: Next and an heads-up for Monster
Post by: MonsteR on January 19, 2013, 10:14:19 pm
I guess that was all sight? Ready to hear the final decision or you want to add something else. Also Next you have to add something?
Title: Re: Headadmin Complain against: Next and an heads-up for Monster
Post by: Wheezy on January 19, 2013, 10:18:45 pm
Okay guys calm down. All this report is getting tensed up. I need you all to calm down since it's just a report not end of the world.

Let this not be the end of the world.

let it be the end of Next his staff position  :D
Actually, NO!

This won't get you demoted, it means nothing I think. Just say the goddamn sorry to the player, and that's it. Also, he didn't abuse his admin rights did he ?? NO! He didn't kill people did he ?? NO! Did he free shot sight on purpose ?? NO! So let this be the END of Discussion and Solve this goddamn topic , before I rage -_- ( I don't wanna get demoted , so please)


P.S : Duke, go to STEAM
Title: Re: Headadmin Complain against: Next and an heads-up for Monster
Post by: Pim on January 19, 2013, 10:44:21 pm
Okay guys calm down. All this report is getting tensed up. I need you all to calm down since it's just a report not end of the world.

Let this not be the end of the world.

let it be the end of Next his staff position  :D
Actually, NO!

This won't get you demoted, it means nothing I think. Just say the goddamn sorry to the player, and that's it. Also, he didn't abuse his admin rights did he ?? NO! He didn't kill people did he ?? NO! Did he free shot sight on purpose ?? NO! So let this be the END of Discussion and Solve this goddamn topic , before I rage -_- ( I don't wanna get demoted , so please)


P.S : Duke, go to STEAM

well, i have to agree with wheezy over here
since he didn't abuse his admin rights, He didn't kill people, yet he might have free shoting sight on purpose though, but who knows...

even though this probably wont get him demoted even for the players (duky) that want it so badly.

yet i do think that even if you have a high rank you should have the balls to say that you made a mistake, yet i dont see Next doing that, if Next would just have said:"sorry i have made a mistake, my bad." it would have been all right!

Pim
Title: Re: Headadmin Complain against: Next and an heads-up for Monster
Post by: AvataR♫♪ on January 19, 2013, 10:46:16 pm
the " Leave you cell you die " this command for the maps had a boost cells but the CT's cant use this command in normal map 'Arranged on top of each'
Title: Re: Headadmin Complain against: Next and an heads-up for Monster
Post by: MonsteR on January 19, 2013, 10:46:39 pm
Not that big deal happened. Many ppl get freeshoted every day and freeshot isnt as bad as a freekill. Everyone of us had freeshoted someone by mistake. Well the problem here is that Next didnt do it by mistake. He freeshoted sight because sight was annoying him when he bought all this things from the shop. But this isnt a proper reason for someone to freeshoot. So i dont think any action must be taken as this has nothing to do wth his admin rights he can freeshoot with the rank member as well. And this isnt enough for a temp ban as well. I will talk with him on steam and explane him that this isnt allowed and that if Next does that again more serious action will be taken.


About sight the same thing will happen to him. I will talk with him on steam because we dont tolerate such a disrespectful behavior agains the Ambrosia High Staff or anyone else.


Regards,
Monster


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