[JB] RTD - Poll

[Ed]

Atm it is allowed. As there is not a rule for it in the rule section

You don't need a rule! It is under the Freekilling rule! Whether you are denying the fact or what ever is the reason, but it is freekilling if you kill T for no reason. Luke skywalker or time bomb doesn't matter, you FK with those things same as your own weapon you give fd. If you don't want to FK, watch what you are doing or don't use it at all.

With all respect Arne, but this is one of the ridiculous things you have come up with. Rules state fk is not allowed, if by my watch someone fk with RTD they will get same punishment if they FK normal unless they give FD for the people who were FK.

[Arne]

You don't need a rule! It is under the Freekilling rule! Whether you are denying the fact or what ever is the reason, but it is freekilling if you kill T for no reason. Luke skywalker or time bomb doesn't matter, you FK with those things same as your own weapon you give fd. If you don't want to FK, watch what you are doing or don't use it at all.

With all respect Arne, but this is one of the ridiculous things you have come up with. Rules state fk is not allowed, if by my watch someone fk with RTD they will get same punishment if they FK normal unless they give FD for the people who were FK.

Its ridicilous to say that. T got it as an advantage, why doesnt CT has it at an advantage? Why does CT have rtd when they cant use it? Im just following the rules, and if everyone disagree's, then we make a rule about it.

Atm nothing is in the rule, and rtd for ct is there for a purpose i guess!

[Ed]

I don't understand. We have had RTD enabled for CTS a long time now and there was no problem with it, yes time to time happens minor freekills, but everyone seems to understand that freekilling is not allowed. If you follow the rules, why it is hard to understand that you are freekilling by using RTD? What else you need? Another pointless rule which by all means is not needed as it is explained in one simple rule and you know it.

If you think that you need to add a rule you be my guest, but then, why do we have RTD at all? Maybe just remove it for ever? No one else seems to have a problem with it
I think there are much more greater things to be done than talking this matter as it is plain simple. I very much dislike going into disagreement with you Arne, but this doesn't make sense to me, why can't you accept the simple rule for everything and play by it, like everyone else?
We already have so many rules and yet nothing has been changed to cut out all the unnecessary things.

But then again, if you wish that CT cannot do RTD it should be disabled, since originally CT's couldn't use it anyway. So for the sake of everything disable it.
Oh and btw. The 1st option in your vote, it is outstanding. Cts using RTD can freely kill T.

[Arne]

Because a few guys got banned because of accidentally using rtd while they stand next to a T (luke skywalker). So here this poll is to clear it up. And apparantly no one is sure about it, cause the vote is winning atm.

I dont see a reason for CT's to have RTD while they cant use it. My suggestion is to remove it for CT or for CT and T. But apparantly ambrosia thinks different about it.

edit: btw you are free to discuss with me. We're both just members, im not some kind of god =,=. Discussions are good for our health

[Alberto]

well , i see good that cts can use rtds but have to be like : drunk , blind .. but if they have godmode or sky dont use it because can be fk (if they kill T). Its noral that the T have rtd because they want rebel and with rtd its easy. its my opinion

[Ed]

The concept of RTD as a CT is that you can have something bad so it gives some little help for T, or can help CT, if your lucky enough, you can get speed and catch the rebelling T. I have seen this happening and it works, so sometimes it is just a lot of fun and gives the advantage.

But as I said I don't think a rule is needed, freekill = freeday.

[Arne]

Well best thing would indeed be to add some speed bonus or armor and health bonus. But then we should remove  the rest

['PL']

Why we don't turn the tides a little?

If rtd is authorized for ct's and they get a good prize, and go kill all the other t's
Can't we blame the luck? Let's say im gonna rtd and get zeus, i kill everyone because i got lucky
Is the same as t's, if you get a slap (infection) and you are evading a command isn't that luck?
Let's say we got all t's freezed in the back, some t's is stupid enough to use rtd and get those rtd's which makes you (move, look around, drunk w/e)
Now unlucky as they are, i always kill if some people aren't completing commands on rtd's sake because THEY ARE UNLUCKY
It would be the same as ct

[Ocelvon]

Well...no
Imagine CT forcing T to stand still in the back of the cage while a CT "luke style" ra*** them all?

['PL']

Well...no
Imagine CT forcing T to stand still in the back of the cage while a CT "luke style" ra*** them all?

If you hit rtd and get luke you go in the cage and kill everyone as part of ur lucky brake
No fd will be given, if that is the problem then remove luke skywallker

[Ocelvon]

If you hit rtd and get luke you go in the cage and kill everyone as part of ur lucky brake
No fd will be given, if that is the problem then remove luke skywallker (Image removed from quote.)

Don't you think killing all T....just ruin any fun?
How about just putting fun stuff in rtd?No guns no things that kill CT...Just fun and possibly death

[<><]

Who remembers on Jb_Greytown the terrorists were dominating 32-0 with /shop (constant nades as Arne mentioned) = This was like last year mid 2010 i believe.

My point is to remove useless RTDs like blind, drunk etc. and increase the RTD delay.

Also do not put /shop back in.

^my opinion

[~RoN]

rtd is good for everyone. Why we don't make it so.

If a ct get ([font=\\\"tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif\\\"]luke skywalker) He can kill terrorist that are out side the cage and cell if a ct use skywalker inside the cage or inside the cell he will be punished so its better. Every body will have fun like we had with Arne it was great and funny .[/font]

[font=\\\"tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif\\\"]This is just my opinion .[/font]

[Ed]

I agree with Mcain, better some fun stuff which doesn't involve in killing. No one really likes to die, but the game is meant that someone will always die. More fun in game more enjoyment rather than frustration or dislike.

[tαshαღ]

This should be kind of simple.. Using RTD is kind of like a weapon so if you luke skywalk into terrorists in a cage it's freekilling. If you kill a rebeller with luke it isn't freekilling because that terrorist had the right to die. RTD is good for ct's when they get god mode or invisibility when catching a terrorist or speed (although it wasnt working last time i play). This has pretty much been the rule since CT was allowed to use RTD and don't think it should be changed now, to me it seems common sense not to kill all t's with rtd unless they're rebelling

[Sight]

well there is never been a rule about cts and rtd... if i luke skyrape all T's and get banned for that then i have all the rights to report that admin because i do still play according the rules.

and its not a gun since you cant trow it (nade) and cant shoot it. (except  if you imagine its a green *cencored*, so its basicly not freekilling.

[Taha]

just remove it guys

[tαshαღ]

well there is never been a rule about cts and rtd... if i luke skyrape all T's and get banned for that then i have all the rights to report that admin because i do still play according the rules.

and its not a gun since you cant trow it (nade) and cant shoot it. (except  if you imagine its a green *cencored*, so its basicly not freekilling.

Killing terrorists without reason = freekilling. is it really that hard to understand? you have no reason to kill them.


3. Free killing is killing a prisoner for no reason.
Doing this repeatedly can get you kicked or banned

that's from popays rules and it's also in the potential updated rules by sami. "killing a prisoner for no reason". if you luke skywalk into 20 terrorists, what's the reason for you killing them? your score will increase also with every kill right?

[Sight]

what's the reason for you killing them? your score will increase also with every kill right?

The terrorists where in the way when the CT wanted to go somewhere? you can name plenty of reasons, its not the CT's fault the T's run into his ****...

[tαshαღ]

Then give them a freeday.. you can't accidentally kill so many terrorists and realistically 1 CT won't be standing so close to that many terrorists. we've played like this for months and it's never been a huge problem, people know not to freekill when they get luke and to stay away from the terrorists. it's only on for a few seconds so what's the big deal lol? you can just find a different route and i'm sure t's wont bother running into luke skywalker and will swiftly move out of the way if it's that much of an issue