[JB] Admin meeting

[SNap]

No i disagree about the applications. Only Head Admins can decide, It has always been like that and you cant just change it like that. We should wait for the leaders to promote someone who they trust and think he can handle the job. Have some patience

[Ed]

Well fairly that doesn't concern me much either, just someone pointed out on that I think Mordred, but as I said we don't need to do it.

I had an argument with tasha about who can join and who can't. There is a reason that it is called an admin meeting, but for best to everyone I am changing the name to JB player meeting, so everyone who is most active on JB can join the meeting and discussion. This make more sense than letting people join Admin meeting when they don't have admin rights.

So for every interested player, joining the JB player meeting means, no spamming, no misbehaving, no screaming or annoying with microphone etc, basic simple rules so we can have good sufficient meeting.

[~RoN]

as i see its player meeting the title so i think we cqn also come ?

i am free most nightall time in ts3 night :/

[Taha]

Well fairly that doesn't concern me much either, just someone pointed out on that I think Mordred, but as I said we don't need to do it.

I had an argument with tasha about who can join and who can't. There is a reason that it is called an admin meeting, but for best to everyone I am changing the name to JB player meeting, so everyone who is most active on JB can join the meeting and discussion. This make more sense than letting people join Admin meeting when they don't have admin rights.

So for every interested player, joining the JB player meeting means, no spamming, no misbehaving, no screaming or annoying with microphone etc, basic simple rules so we can have good sufficient meeting. (Image removed from quote.)

i highly disagree and disaprove this turning into a player's jb meeting
this would turn into a troll meeting , even if we kick/ban them from the room , it will annoy many of us thus iy's going to be screwed up and many would loose their ideas
jbplayers  can always suggest something on the forums
for me if this turning into a jb open player meeting i ain't joining becuz i already it's going to be an ideas less meeting and a big waste of time and ressources ...

[Colombia]

agree with taha and like snap said! this is head admin work! so remember where your place is

[tαshαღ]

normal members were previously allowed to join in meetings to decide maps etc if they were active. theres only 3-4 really active admins in JB and some of them don't even know the rules themselves even though they have admin rights..dont see why maps should be picked with just admins taha considering that other choices on other servers are done with players as well for all to have an input on.

[Taha]

normal members were previously allowed to join in meetings to decide maps etc if they were active. theres only 3-4 really active admins in JB and some of them don't even know the rules themselves even though they have admin rights..dont see why maps should be picked with just admins taha considering that other choices on other servers are done with players as well for all to have an input on.

well no i don't think a whole admin meeting would/should be dedicated to choose maps lol ?
look at the op
talking about appliers and rules etc
maps would take 5 min of the total time of the meeting considering we all know the classical maps of jb and necessary ones
we could allow some players but only 2 or 3

[tαshαღ]

you cant pick admin applications anyway so that's pointless, thats head admin and above job not normal CS Admins

[Ocelvon]

skype got blocked in my country so doing it in ts3 is better

[AliNorway]

No i disagree about the applications. Only Head Admins can decide, It has always been like that and you cant just change it like that. We should wait for the leaders to promote someone who they trust and think he can handle the job. Have some patience (Image removed from quote.)

i highly disagree and disaprove this turning into a player's jb meeting
this would turn into a troll meeting , even if we kick/ban them from the room , it will annoy many of us thus iy's going to be screwed up and many would loose their ideas
jbplayers  can always suggest something on the forums
for me if this turning into a jb open player meeting i ain't joining becuz i already it's going to be an ideas less meeting and a big waste of time and ressources ...

Also you both are correct.
Also I think you need some patience and wait for answer from other high staff

[Taha]

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another prank from fegelein aye

you cant pick admin applications anyway so that's pointless, thats head admin and above job not normal CS Admins

who said we r the ones who r going to accept appliers ?
ofc high staff may attend the meeting so it would be a good oppurtinuty to ask active admins about appliers
and tbh appliers and maps are the least we could worry about
jb needs alot more to be fixed

[Ed]

I agree with you Taha, but due some people being so aggressive about being into the meeting that I changed it to JB player meeting and I absolutely agree with that this is not necessary and admins are there to discuss everything not letting members to join. Already explained the most to Tasha, but she kept calling me dictator. It is admin meeting called for a reason. And I said about admin apps. We don't accept them we just discuss who seems to be good who not and pass the information further to high staff. Head admin if I am correct in JB haven't been for 2 months already. We can wait for head admin, or we can do things ourselves, besides we don't choose head admins we just love JB and would rather do something about it than wait.

[tαshαღ]

Well at the current moment theres few active admins who play for a long time every day, atm the only one who really plays a LOT and is always on the server is snap. other admins come on but they're not as active as some of the most active members. what's the problem with inviting the most active members to the meeting? why is it such a big deal? you have hiphopboy who comes on to play CT then leaves, newstory isn't active, taha doesn't come on as much as he used to, sami you're kind of active but at weird times because of work, monster plays every now and then but thats about it as far as admins go and mcains just got more active. so how many people is that considering the ones who aren't excessively active? there's people who play for hours a day who aren't allowed to go discuss things when they represent jailbreak MORE than 90% of the admins like spangy, phoenix, harry, dukedevlin, smiley, jonathan, next etc.. they're the ones who will be affected by the decisions since they play more than most of you so it's kind of stupid to just cut those people out from discussing changes made to rules, maps and plug ins when they're the ones who have to deal with the changes to their favourite server

[Ed]

Your always free to discuss things on forum and express your opinions, which all will be considered. So what is wrong with that?
The changes are made based on all people, but discussed privately with the admins who administrate the server and have to do it based on their duties. So it only makes sense that it goes as private from the public. This is how it has always been, I have been on the most admin meetings apart from the time I was off. So I am not sure why are you making this as such a huge deal not to mention you didn't try to join other admin meetings and didn't demand it. Now you demand that it is going public, but there are things concerning only admins not players. It is same with every business or politics. We take community for granted, but we do not involve community in the meetings. There are admins and admins decide whether you like it or not, that's how world is running.

If you become admin your always welcome to admin meetings, but if your not then for compromise this is JB player meeting. If some admins disagree with this and won't come, I won't blame them and that will mean there will be additional meeting for admins only, no matter how active or inactive they are.

[tαshαღ]

When there was admin meetings before, half of the server was admins. there would always be about 6 admins online at a time so the admin community represented most of the community. you had ares, noctrl, spaff, goodmood, and loads of others so it was a completely different situation. plus arne did used to invite the most active members to join in aswell. now you have VERY few active admins or the new admins who are inexperienced and if they had it their way we would have a server riddled with firework plugins and weird messed up maps with crazy mods. you'll be lucky to get one admin on the server now at peak times which is why its completely different. the changes won't affect the admins now because they barely play bar a couple, the changes will affect the players who should have the right to be involved with changes to rules/maps/plugins considering they're the ones who play more than most of you admins. the only person who is as active as most of the people i named is smit and snap

['PL']

In the previous meeting i was with tolga on the list where we only listened and not really discussed (no right to say)
At that time me and tolga ware the only members to attend, also mordred wasn't leading it, it was arne his love.

I don't mind to take place in this meeting and i prefer ts3 because i don't have skype on this computer.
Im a forum moderator (suspended), till Sunday my fm rights will be back

For jailbreak players, they can do a separate meeting, where will come to democracy... For those meetings one really active jailbreak player will open the discussion with the members and after the meeting will introduce his results to the admin meeting. We could do the player meeting first, which will happen (suppose) before the admin one.
That way players and admins are happy
Bare in mind, if any player or admin don't show up could have his vote uncounted.

One important thing is that one +uc should attend too

[Ed]

Well said *PL*.

[Ren0k.]

Could i join too?
As im playing very long time JB.

[Taha]

Well at the current moment theres few active admins who play for a long time every day, atm the only one who really plays a LOT and is always on the server is snap. other admins come on but they're not as active as some of the most active members. what's the problem with inviting the most active members to the meeting? why is it such a big deal? you have hiphopboy who comes on to play CT then leaves, newstory isn't active, taha doesn't come on as much as he used to, sami you're kind of active but at weird times because of work, monster plays every now and then but thats about it as far as admins go and mcains just got more active. so how many people is that considering the ones who aren't excessively active? there's people who play for hours a day who aren't allowed to go discuss things when they represent jailbreak MORE than 90% of the admins like spangy, phoenix, harry, dukedevlin, smiley, jonathan, next etc.. they're the ones who will be affected by the decisions since they play more than most of you so it's kind of stupid to just cut those people out from discussing changes made to rules, maps and plug ins when they're the ones who have to deal with the changes to their favourite server

i got no problem against the players nor with those guys you mentioned above
but 60% of them would come just to troll in the meeting for the heck it of it
yh we could allow players to come but only a limited amount like in previous meetings
we could 1 ,  2 or up to 3 players but no more cuz it would turn into a chaos since the room would be hella full
and yh sorry for not coming much but i already made an inactivity topic but still i join sometimes when no one is there

[MonsteR]

Yes i agree we must add 2-3 players so they can say their opinion too this must be active ppl who knows the rules well.