reporting cts at jb

[GandElf The Gay]

@Terminator #L!QU!D   might want to read this :3

[♥Pinky~GirliciousKitten♥]

If they didn't want CT "whx"  u should directly go back to T , and also Terminator , ray  and buck those cts are good enough and know the rules so you ppl
 should already cut of the fight

[Ray]

I was there during the incident. Guys like Buck , Ray are good cts no doubt about that. But showing favouritsm towards a specific player like termi wanted Buck instead of whx and votekicking is completely unfair. Server is equal for all. So everyone should get chance of becoming cts. And still what in end the best of the best cts fail 90% of the time each map. So thats not an excuse we are better ct than u and can make server fun. About his mic i dont have any issues with it.

I'm sorry to break your theory, but i never had 90% fails in my commanding. Even on my worst day. Specially with people like buck on my side.
And if he reported us after the first votekick, i would have reasoned with him but he came back and kept selfing.
Therefor i repeat again, no rule was broken. This can be solved.

I am just mentioning a common fact. Whenever anybody join jb. The win loss ratio of T to CT is always  like 10:2, 15:3. Thats something no one can deny about.

Might need to ask about me if you never played with me.

[mohammed #|wHx|]

Dear polar, i actually never asked anyone to go back T or to go ct.
As for the votekick, yes we dis votekick you, simply because we were 4 and ratio was bad, but you came back to ct even after ratio got fixed
Simple, vote kick again, until you eventually kept doing it until you spawned, used ffa and killed terminator as ct.
Did we kick you? Yes
Did you deserve it? Yes
Do i have regret? No

First of all u just asked me to go back ct and i told u i dont want to .... and for the vote kick i was b4 buckk and u and terminator called him even the "RATIO" was bad .... i got lagged out then came back after 30 sec and then u vote kicked me ..... i didnt do anything wrong and i know the rules and if u dont have any proove that i did ffa and kill terminator (or thought im going to do it ) just post it .... u dont have anything against me to not be ct so there is no reason to vote kick me

Ps : i dont see any reason why i deserved the vote kick as i said b4 and idc if u regret or not .... but do u have any problem with me ? cuz i dont know u b4 this time so why u talking like im enemy to u ? it is just doesnt make any sense .

And for u nAb i think u didnt notice that i was ct from the biggining of the map as i mentioned ... i just selfed 1 more time to record a demo .

and for u fisu i wasnt annoying or not doing what i should to do ... as i said they just vote kick me without a reason .

EDIT : ray why u keep lying ? i was BEFORE buckk as ct if there is anyone who have to get vote kicked it would be buckk

So let's put it this way, i don't have a problem with you. Trust me.
Second of all, after you reminded me of what happened, you're saying you lagged out, buck came instead of you (buck clearly stated last map that he wanted CT) and you came back to CT and we votekicked you?
I don't see anything wrong in that.
Other than you teamkilling as CT, we enjoyed the map actually. I commanded well.
So please, why go ct while people already said they are going CT since a map ago? Common sense.
No admin > Players pick CTs and other than Polarbear who is clearly defending you because you are reporting me, i don't see anyone complaining about what happened.
I'm sorry we votekicked you. Are we alright?

First of all buckk didnt came instead of me u and terminator told him to come when i was ct .. i lagged out and reconnected after 30 sec and u immiedtly vote kicked me how there is nothing wrong with that ? .. and as i said b4 he shouldnt self from the first place cuz the ratio was bad .

I dont care if u enjoyed the map and commanded well or not ... but WHY U KEEP LYING ABOUT THAT I TEAMKILLED A CT ?? i told u b4 give 1 proove that i teamkilled anyone otherwise remain silent

"Common sense " ... seriously ? there is nothing u said have to do anything with common sense ... There no rule says that who ever said that he is ct at the end of the previous map became ct in the next one (even tho buckk didnt say he wanted to be ct u just told him to self to vote kick me ) , Common sense .

Polarbear is defending me cuz he witnesses what happened and knows whose fault in this sitiuation , i dont understand whats wrong why is he defending me cuz im reporting u , unless if u have some problems with eachother .

and u r sorry for vote kick me ?? u said earlier u i deserve it and u have no regret doing it , what changed your mind ? thats not making any sense .

I honestly do not regret it, but if you are still mad about it, i'm sorry i made you mad.
And if it's not you that reconnected with the name "i am back" and selfed then teamkilled, pardon me then.
But you still joined CT 3-4 times after we kicked you.
And why do you really make such a thing out of this?
We come to have fun in the server, and you end up killing the fun by constant selfing and then reporting us.
We asked you gently to go back since we were 4, but you never came back. It's not about who presses m1 first.

like i said .. i dont care if u regret it or not . And why i would be mad ? i came to the server to have fun as well but u and the other CTs  make such thing out of this by vote kicking me .. tell me whats fun about that ?

"and you end up killing the fun by constant selfing and then reporting us" ...... Well that was a load of bullsh*t . How im killing the fun ? who called buckk to vote kick me then , and how im constant selfing ? i was ct from the biggining of the map ( i just selfed after u vote kick me to make a demo ) even though i have the right to be ct but u kept vote kicking me without a reason , who is killing the fun now .

And like i said since u r not paying attention of what i write ... if there is anyone u have to ask him to get back it would be buckk ... cuz he selfed after 2 rounds and the ratio was bad ... and yes its not about who presses m1 first (i never said that) , but since there nothing wrong for me to self then u cant ask me to go back cuz u dont have any reason to do so .

the thing in red ^ That wasn't me just so you know. It was terminator.
And if it's not about who presses m1 first, there was a lot of people asking you to go back, including terminator and I.
People do not like your mic by the way...
And i wouldn't be killing the fun by asking you to go back, i would be adding fun to the server since Buck and I are both experienced CTs.
So please... just save yourself the pain, accept my apology, and move on since this report is pointless.




EDIT: Rules don't say anything about not allowing votekick for being annoying.
Find me a rule i broke then report me.
http://www.ambrosia-servers.eu/community/index.php?topic=30629.0
I believe this report is pointless. But if he only wanted an apology he already got it. You can solve this.

If there is any player that was telling me to go back other than  and terminator tell me who and why .... even tho u and terminator have pointless reasons .

And ohhh right .... , u r the most fun CTs in the server and im the most boring one (even its a stupid reason to not be a CT ) if so this server would be the most boring server in jb .

what pain do i have to save myself from ? and i never asked for an apology to accept it or not........ and if this is pointless report please tell what is pointfull to u , and let learn some of your inspiring experience ..... , if u meant that the pain is pain of reporting u , then u 100% wrong .. im very glad that when i wanted to report someone i reported u cuz even i dont know u b4 this time but an seem an arrogant person who thinks he is the above the other ppl .

[Ray]

Again i repeat i never asked you to go back,  and if i'm arrogant i wouldn't have apologized
Pointful report? You mean where you report me for breaking an ACTUAL rule?
I gave you link of rules list. What havr i broke? Enlighten me.
I never called you a boring Ct btw

[mohammed #|wHx|]

My opinion as an experienced JB player and admin for this situation.

Ray and Terminator are considered as ones of the best CTs since old days along with Buck. I doubt they have made the wrong decision. Ray and Terminator had a lot complains about this new CT Mohammed, laggy mic(I heard you yesterday), people complaining about his commands and e.t.c. In order to kick this guy they called Buck to help them with commanding because once they votekick him, they would be only 2 which will be wrong because of the ratio. Once Buck came, the ratio was good and people stopped complaining. Simple as that.

So conclusion: Mohammed are you complaining here about yourself, that you should have been CT Banned or you just did a mistake by reporting 3 valuable experienced players?

I want to express my gratitude to players like Ray, Terminator and Buck for keeping the server clean and satisfying players although there is no admin around !!

Cheers,
Popay

Well ... they did , and who has complains about my cmds and why ? i just were ct for half round and i didnt even cmd so why anyone would have complains about me ... and they called buckk just cuz they want him and dont want me without a sensble reason cuz like i said i believe i didnt break any rule nor did anything wrong to vote kick me ... and how did u know all of that ? did u witness what happened ? i guess not ..... so please dont talk about what happened while u dont REALY know what happened .

Why i should have been CT banned ? what for ? like i said i didnt break any rule nor did anything wrong to banned ... And u r saying that cuz they r valuable experienced players i cant report them  .. ? EVEN IF THEY WERE AT FAULT ?! ... And they r not even valuable at all ... for terminator he is not even good normal player he is just normal and for buckk and ray i dont know about them cuz i dont see them alot at the server but they seem not that valuable as well , so ofc i didnt do a mistake .

And for the last glowed sentence .. ye right i doubt about that .

['PL']

To sum up the whole topic, Ray is reported for favoritism which is evident in the demo as buck with terminator joined ct to votekick the reporter. I consider that's what the reporter wants to articulate in his repetitive posts.

But there is one small thing is that a collective was antagonizing your ct slot by actions you conducted to be fittingly unfairly or atrocious to their taste. There is nothing you can do about that but try to improve and see your flaws what you generated so they can be a lesson next time you will acquire ct status. You could have logged those complaints so I may understand the situation more clearer and purified of your interpretations because I'm seeing the information coming from you with too much emotional platform that is confusing the hell out of me. Nevertheless if such a number of whining and crying about your ct slot took place in the server, you need to try your luck next map or with another admin that may give you a chance.

There is no rule about favoritism, however the server which is a social system by itself conveyed the message of you doing something wrong that should point out in future engagements with those messages.

In the ambrosia jailbreak server, ray is categorized just as a skilled player able to eliminate threats reliably. Which entitles himself as a promised role of crowd control, he is not able to deliver always on creativity but his aiming capabilities make up for his lack of games crafting. So in comparison, he is far more reliable than you.

I have to admit that I have never paid attention to you, so my accuracy on this post is 70%

[Ray]

To sum up the whole topic, Ray is reported for favoritism which is evident in the demo as buck with terminator joined ct to votekick the reporter. I consider that's what the reported wants to articulate in his repetitive posts.

But there is one small thing is that a collective was antagonizing your ct slot by actions you conducted to be fittingly unfairly or atrocious to their taste. There is nothing you can do about that but try to improve and see your flaws what you generated so they can be a lesson next time you will acquire ct status. You could have logged those complaints so I may understand the situation more clearer and purified of your interpretations because I'm seeing the information coming from you with too much emotional platform that is confusing the hell out of me. Nevertheless if such a number of whining and crying about your ct slot took place in the server, you need to try your luck next map or with another admin that may give you a chance.

There is no rule about favoritism, however the server which is a social system by itself conveyed the message of you doing something wrong that should point out in future engagements with those messages.

In the ambrosia jailbreak server, ray is categorized just as a skilled player able to eliminate threats reliably. Which entitles himself as a promised role of crowd control, he is not able to deliver always on creativity but his aiming capabilities make up for his lack of games crafting. So in comparison, he is far more reliable than you.

I have to admit that I have never paid attention to you, so my accuracy on this post is 70%

Best post i have seen in years. Accurate to the top.
Yes i think i am bad in game crafting, but i am good in crowd control

Still think this report has no valid reason. So please, can someone solve it already?

[mohammed #|wHx|]

To sum up the whole topic, Ray is reported for favoritism which is evident in the demo as buck with terminator joined ct to votekick the reporter. I consider that's what the reporter wants to articulate in his repetitive posts.

But there is one small thing is that a collective was antagonizing your ct slot by actions you conducted to be fittingly unfairly or atrocious to their taste. There is nothing you can do about that but try to improve and see your flaws what you generated so they can be a lesson next time you will acquire ct status. You could have logged those complaints so I may understand the situation more clearer and purified of your interpretations because I'm seeing the information coming from you with too much emotional platform that is confusing the hell out of me. Nevertheless if such a number of whining and crying about your ct slot took place in the server, you need to try your luck next map or with another admin that may give you a chance.

There is no rule about favoritism, however the server which is a social system by itself conveyed the message of you doing something wrong that should point out in future engagements with those messages.

In the ambrosia jailbreak server, ray is categorized just as a skilled player able to eliminate threats reliably. Which entitles himself as a promised role of crowd control, he is not able to deliver always on creativity but his aiming capabilities make up for his lack of games crafting. So in comparison, he is far more reliable than you.

I have to admit that I have never paid attention to you, so my accuracy on this post is 70%

First of all "collective was antagonizing your ct slot by actions you conducted to be fittingly unfairly or atrocious to their taste" ..... da hell ?! that took me alot to translate it in google .... anyways .. im a very new player here (at jb generly ) may be started like 3 weeks ago so may be any one plays here b4 me would be better than me ... and what emotional about what i said ? im very clear ... in short i reported some ppl cuz they did something wrong i didnt like and no one would (and ofc ray himself wouldnt like that either )   3 players vote kick me without any reason .... although i know the rules and i didnt broke any of them .

As i said before ... i dont know ray before this time so i cant judge him accurately if he is good or not ... but if he is far more reliable than me what is this has to do with being ct ? correct me if im wrong .

[Ray]

To sum up the whole topic, Ray is reported for favoritism which is evident in the demo as buck with terminator joined ct to votekick the reporter. I consider that's what the reporter wants to articulate in his repetitive posts.

But there is one small thing is that a collective was antagonizing your ct slot by actions you conducted to be fittingly unfairly or atrocious to their taste. There is nothing you can do about that but try to improve and see your flaws what you generated so they can be a lesson next time you will acquire ct status. You could have logged those complaints so I may understand the situation more clearer and purified of your interpretations because I'm seeing the information coming from you with too much emotional platform that is confusing the hell out of me. Nevertheless if such a number of whining and crying about your ct slot took place in the server, you need to try your luck next map or with another admin that may give you a chance.

There is no rule about favoritism, however the server which is a social system by itself conveyed the message of you doing something wrong that should point out in future engagements with those messages.

In the ambrosia jailbreak server, ray is categorized just as a skilled player able to eliminate threats reliably. Which entitles himself as a promised role of crowd control, he is not able to deliver always on creativity but his aiming capabilities make up for his lack of games crafting. So in comparison, he is far more reliable than you.

I have to admit that I have never paid attention to you, so my accuracy on this post is 70%

First of all "collective was antagonizing your ct slot by actions you conducted to be fittingly unfairly or atrocious to their taste" ..... da hell ?! that took me alot to translate it at google .... anyways .. im a very new player here (at jb generly ) may be started like 3 weeks ago so ofc any one plays here b4 me would be better than me ... and what emotional about what i said ? im very clear ... in short i reported some ppl cuz they did something wrong i didnt like it and no one would (and ofc ray himself wouldnt like that either )   3 players vote kick me without any reason .... although i know the rules and i didnt broke any of them .

Before comparing what i would like or not, you should consider if i would do such a thing as keep reconnecting and selfing to CT.
I pick my moments to self. I'm either wanted as CT, or admin transfers me. I never self and get myself votekicked.
Alright so you reported us and i apologized on the behalf of the 2 others. Your report is pointless since reporting for "votekick" is not valid.
Nothing says we cannot votekick you. So please, find a proper reason for a proper report.
You are a good CT, but deal with it you got votekicked. We didn't break any rule too.

[mohammed #|wHx|]

To sum up the whole topic, Ray is reported for favoritism which is evident in the demo as buck with terminator joined ct to votekick the reporter. I consider that's what the reporter wants to articulate in his repetitive posts.

But there is one small thing is that a collective was antagonizing your ct slot by actions you conducted to be fittingly unfairly or atrocious to their taste. There is nothing you can do about that but try to improve and see your flaws what you generated so they can be a lesson next time you will acquire ct status. You could have logged those complaints so I may understand the situation more clearer and purified of your interpretations because I'm seeing the information coming from you with too much emotional platform that is confusing the hell out of me. Nevertheless if such a number of whining and crying about your ct slot took place in the server, you need to try your luck next map or with another admin that may give you a chance.

There is no rule about favoritism, however the server which is a social system by itself conveyed the message of you doing something wrong that should point out in future engagements with those messages.

In the ambrosia jailbreak server, ray is categorized just as a skilled player able to eliminate threats reliably. Which entitles himself as a promised role of crowd control, he is not able to deliver always on creativity but his aiming capabilities make up for his lack of games crafting. So in comparison, he is far more reliable than you.

I have to admit that I have never paid attention to you, so my accuracy on this post is 70%

First of all "collective was antagonizing your ct slot by actions you conducted to be fittingly unfairly or atrocious to their taste" ..... da hell ?! that took me alot to translate it at google .... anyways .. im a very new player here (at jb generly ) may be started like 3 weeks ago so ofc any one plays here b4 me would be better than me ... and what emotional about what i said ? im very clear ... in short i reported some ppl cuz they did something wrong i didnt like it and no one would (and ofc ray himself wouldnt like that either )   3 players vote kick me without any reason .... although i know the rules and i didnt broke any of them .

Before comparing what i would like or not, you should consider if i would do such a thing as keep reconnecting and selfing to CT.
I pick my moments to self. I'm either wanted as CT, or admin transfers me. I never self and get myself votekicked.
Alright so you reported us and i apologized on the behalf of the 2 others. Your report is pointless since reporting for "votekick" is not valid.
Nothing says we cannot votekick you. So please, find a proper reason for a proper report.
You are a good CT, but deal with it you got votekicked. We didn't break any rule too.

i didnt reconnect and kept selfing , i just got lagged out alot of times (cuz my net is not that good ) .... and i just selfed once as i said b4 to make a demo .

I dont have any problem with the votekick itself , my problem with the way and the reason u vote kicked for thats why i reported u , and if there isnt any rule about that then it has to be a serious one , cuz otherwise any 2 players or more can just self every map when there is no admin and votekick any one whoever self . (and that happened a lot of times b4 , and like this sitiuation as well)

[Ray]

I won't reply to this guy anymore...
Please someone solve this already and take the right decision.

[mohammed #|wHx|]

I won't reply to this guy anymore...
Please someone solve this already and take the right decision.

No one even asks to replay from the first place so remain silent .

[Red Mist]

Dear polar, i actually never asked anyone to go back T or to go ct.
As for the votekick, yes we dis votekick you, simply because we were 4 and ratio was bad, but you came back to ct even after ratio got fixed
Simple, vote kick again, until you eventually kept doing it until you spawned, used ffa and killed terminator as ct.
Did we kick you? Yes
Did you deserve it? Yes
Do i have regret? No

First of all u just asked me to go back ct and i told u i dont want to .... and for the vote kick i was b4 buckk and u and terminator called him even the "RATIO" was bad .... i got lagged out then came back after 30 sec and then u vote kicked me ..... i didnt do anything wrong and i know the rules and if u dont have any proove that i did ffa and kill terminator (or thought im going to do it ) just post it .... u dont have anything against me to not be ct so there is no reason to vote kick me

Ps : i dont see any reason why i deserved the vote kick as i said b4 and idc if u regret or not .... but do u have any problem with me ? cuz i dont know u b4 this time so why u talking like im enemy to u ? it is just doesnt make any sense .

And for u nAb i think u didnt notice that i was ct from the biggining of the map as i mentioned ... i just selfed 1 more time to record a demo .

and for u fisu i wasnt annoying or not doing what i should to do ... as i said they just vote kick me without a reason .

EDIT : ray why u keep lying ? i was BEFORE buckk as ct if there is anyone who have to get vote kicked it would be buckk

So let's put it this way, i don't have a problem with you. Trust me.
Second of all, after you reminded me of what happened, you're saying you lagged out, buck came instead of you (buck clearly stated last map that he wanted CT) and you came back to CT and we votekicked you?
I don't see anything wrong in that.
Other than you teamkilling as CT, we enjoyed the map actually. I commanded well.
So please, why go ct while people already said they are going CT since a map ago? Common sense.
No admin > Players pick CTs and other than Polarbear who is clearly defending you because you are reporting me, i don't see anyone complaining about what happened.
I'm sorry we votekicked you. Are we alright?

First of all buckk didnt came instead of me u and terminator told him to come when i was ct .. i lagged out and reconnected after 30 sec and u immiedtly vote kicked me how there is nothing wrong with that ? .. and as i said b4 he shouldnt self from the first place cuz the ratio was bad .

I dont care if u enjoyed the map and commanded well or not ... but WHY U KEEP LYING ABOUT THAT I TEAMKILLED A CT ?? i told u b4 give 1 proove that i teamkilled anyone otherwise remain silent

"Common sense " ... seriously ? there is nothing u said have to do anything with common sense ... There no rule says that who ever said that he is ct at the end of the previous map became ct in the next one (even tho buckk didnt say he wanted to be ct u just told him to self to vote kick me ) , Common sense .

Polarbear is defending me cuz he witnesses what happened and knows whose fault in this sitiuation , i dont understand whats wrong why is he defending me cuz im reporting u , unless if u have some problems with eachother .

and u r sorry for vote kick me ?? u said earlier u i deserve it and u have no regret doing it , what changed your mind ? thats not making any sense .

I honestly do not regret it, but if you are still mad about it, i'm sorry i made you mad.
And if it's not you that reconnected with the name "i am back" and selfed then teamkilled, pardon me then.
But you still joined CT 3-4 times after we kicked you.
And why do you really make such a thing out of this?
We come to have fun in the server, and you end up killing the fun by constant selfing and then reporting us.
We asked you gently to go back since we were 4, but you never came back. It's not about who presses m1 first.

like i said .. i dont care if u regret it or not . And why i would be mad ? i came to the server to have fun as well but u and the other CTs  make such thing out of this by vote kicking me .. tell me whats fun about that ?

"and you end up killing the fun by constant selfing and then reporting us" ...... Well that was a load of bullsh*t . How im killing the fun ? who called buckk to vote kick me then , and how im constant selfing ? i was ct from the biggining of the map ( i just selfed after u vote kick me to make a demo ) even though i have the right to be ct but u kept vote kicking me without a reason , who is killing the fun now .

And like i said since u r not paying attention of what i write ... if there is anyone u have to ask him to get back it would be buckk ... cuz he selfed after 2 rounds and the ratio was bad ... and yes its not about who presses m1 first (i never said that) , but since there nothing wrong for me to self then u cant ask me to go back cuz u dont have any reason to do so .

the thing in red ^ That wasn't me just so you know. It was terminator.
And if it's not about who presses m1 first, there was a lot of people asking you to go back, including terminator and I.
People do not like your mic by the way...
And i wouldn't be killing the fun by asking you to go back, i would be adding fun to the server since Buck and I are both experienced CTs.
So please... just save yourself the pain, accept my apology, and move on since this report is pointless.




EDIT: Rules don't say anything about not allowing votekick for being annoying.
Find me a rule i broke then report me.
http://www.ambrosia-servers.eu/community/index.php?topic=30629.0
I believe this report is pointless. But if he only wanted an apology he already got it. You can solve this.

Ray i do not hate you but your statements contradict reality
Whx has got a loud and crystal clear mic.
No one wàs asking you guys to swap whx with buckk,it's just that terminator wanted him.
PS:whx better stop defending yourself as you have little chance to justify yourself in front of these guys

[P o p a y]

My opinion as an experienced JB player and admin for this situation.

Ray and Terminator are considered as ones of the best CTs since old days along with Buck. I doubt they have made the wrong decision. Ray and Terminator had a lot complains about this new CT Mohammed, laggy mic(I heard you yesterday), people complaining about his commands and e.t.c. In order to kick this guy they called Buck to help them with commanding because once they votekick him, they would be only 2 which will be wrong because of the ratio. Once Buck came, the ratio was good and people stopped complaining. Simple as that.

So conclusion: Mohammed are you complaining here about yourself, that you should have been CT Banned or you just did a mistake by reporting 3 valuable experienced players?

I want to express my gratitude to players like Ray, Terminator and Buck for keeping the server clean and satisfying players although there is no admin around !!

Cheers,
Popay

Well ... they did , and who has complains about my cmds and why ? i just were ct for half round and i didnt even cmd so why anyone would have complains about me ... and they called buckk just cuz they want him and dont want me without a sensble reason cuz like i said i believe i didnt break any rule nor did anything wrong to vote kick me ... and how did u know all of that ? did u witness what happened ? i guess not ..... so please dont talk about what happened while u dont REALY know what happened .

Why i should have been CT banned ? what for ? like i said i didnt break any rule nor did anything wrong to banned ... And u r saying that cuz they r valuable experienced players i cant report them  .. ? EVEN IF THEY WERE AT FAULT ?! ... And they r not even valuable at all ... for terminator he is not even good normal player he is just normal and for buckk and ray i dont know about them cuz i dont see them alot at the server but they seem not that valuable as well , so ofc i didnt do a mistake .

And for the last glowed sentence .. ye right i doubt about that .

Just for your information: Sometimes you have to accept that people will not like you to be CT, and if players feel that you are not appropriate to be CT, you won't be, simple as that.

Both sides explained their part of the story. This is going into a neverending useless repetitive story.

You will have result about this report as soon as possible. Locked to prevent spam (as we witnessed it with the last page whole page).

[Andrew`]

They didn't need more teammates, and if the score was not a (sorry for the word) r@pe then you didn't really need to go, and I doubt some loyal, experienced CTs would just kick you for any stupid reason.

Last but not least, I guess it happened once, so it's not a big deal either, we're all grown ups mate, aren't we?

Dropped.