Reporting KORAY

[CoiNNN]

Admin: Koray
Server: Jailbreak
Date & Time: 05/08/14 [19:00 to 19:37 (UK Time)]
Complaint: Argumentative language.
Other Evidence (screenshots, demos...): [Chat logs]

So Koray joins Jailbreak, and starts calling me "Power Hungry" "Non admin material" and other stuff,
I am NOT saying he deserves some type of ban or anything. But he should at least get a warning or some sort of warning...
I do not think he has any right to join Jailbreak, RANDOMLY start starting an argument. Saying people do not like me, when we all have people which do not like us. He should not join Jailbreak randomly try make me look small next to my friends and random loyal players.

Then I went to the toilet, while I was at toilet, a CT apparently went inside the cage, which I did not see, and killed Koray for not following command. He then decided to use admin chat telling me what to do.

[Like I said I do not think he should get banned/gagged or demoted or what ever. I just want him to receive a warning. No one would want to look small in front of bunch of people.]

I am admiting that I did say stuff back like "You bumlick Rubix"... And much other stuff. But non would make him feel so small like he did.

Maybe the reason why Ambrosia do not get a lot of paid admins is because people like Koray do not intend to give respect for those who have paid to become admin:
 19:43 - Koray: atleast I didnt pay to get admin
19:43 - Koray:
19:43 - Koray: go ahead
19:43 - Koray: it hurts me so much
19:43 - Koray: lol
19:43 - Koray: youre doing nothing as admin anyway
19:43 - Koray: only licking populair peoples ass
19:43 - Koray:
19:44 - Koray: and let me tell you
19:44 - Koray: nothing will come out of it:)

I do hope that Ambrosia does not see "Paid admins" different from a regular "Admin"

[Pim]

I do agree, provoking an admin as another admin should not be the way to behave...

It's not so hard to just be nice to eachother is it? you should be a team after all

[Noex']

Koray: youre doing nothing as admin anyway

This is actually true because 3 people insulting and you don't do anything

You rocket a CT if he accidentally freekills you

You do LR while it's Last Man Standing

It's really like you didn't revise the rules

[CoiNNN]

Koray: youre doing nothing as admin anyway

This is actually true because 3 people insulting and you don't do anything

You rocket a CT if he accidentally freekills you

You do LR while it's Last Man Standing

It's really like you didn't revise the rules

1) I rocketed him because he freeshot me, and commanded something impossible.
2) I did not know LR does not work on LMS. we all have something we do not know?

[Noex']

Koray: youre doing nothing as admin anyway

This is actually true because 3 people insulting and you don't do anything

You rocket a CT if he accidentally freekills you

You do LR while it's Last Man Standing

It's really like you didn't revise the rules

1) I rocketed him because he freeshot me, and commanded something impossible.
2) I did not know LR does not work on LMS. we all have something we do not know?


It was possible it was last reaction day and you were last you delayed and you got a chance but you were too late and no lr in LMS is easy too understand especially if you're an admin you should know that rule

[Ray]

Koray: youre doing nothing as admin anyway

This is actually true because 3 people insulting and you don't do anything

You rocket a CT if he accidentally freekills you

You do LR while it's Last Man Standing

It's really like you didn't revise the rules

Isn't koray's job to life-lecture him about his admin duty.
Koray is not an admin on Jailbreak and he should not have said those words to a JB admin.
He's a Surf and ZM admin.
It's sami or november's job to say if CoiN is useless or not. Not koray's.

I do agree, provoking an admin as another admin should not be the way to behave...

It's not so hard to just be nice to eachother is it? you should be a team after all

+1 @Pim

[Pringles]

Even if Koray thinks that CoiN doesn't do anything as an admin (which is not the case), he's not allowed to provoke him.

If he thinks that he doesn't fit the administration position, he can still start a complaint or pm the Head Admin.

[Ed]

I will deal with this myself if everyone from staff agrees.

I am awaiting for Korays response.

[CoiNNN]

I will deal with this myself if everyone from staff agrees.

I am awaiting for Korays response.

I am 100% sure he is writing a long paragraph lies about me that I already mentioned that I did reply to him. But not as much as he did to me.

[Koray]

So, youre someone that comes, makes an app gets denied makes another one because the server 'SURF' didnt get it, goes for 'JAILBREAK' gets denied goes to paid adminship and gets admin, I call that Powerhungry indeed.

The reason I said those things is because youre someone who tries to go with known people and try to get attention even though youre not worth it.

You went to the toilet? And thats the reason you started to ignore me and the whole server when you clearly was playing yourself but after you didnt say anything and you knew I was going to do something since I saw lady comming in and out of the cage, dont make an excuse with that please.

I'm saying what I see and by far I can tell you that youre someone who wants the rights to be one of those higher people around the staff, your favourite server was Surf right ? your app got denied and you suddenly 'stopped' playing surf even when it hat around 15 players?

You should know aswell that an admin has to follow the rules and you clearly dont know that, I have my sources and the people who tell me the things that happen in Jailbreak so dont worry about that mr.Coin.

to be honest, those last days I cant give any shizzle about the people around here and thats only because 1 dude left and didnt come back either.

Anyway, I 'apologize' for my behaviour even though this is something between us 2.

I will deal with this myself if everyone from staff agrees.

I am awaiting for Korays response.

I am 100% sure he is writing a long paragraph lies about me that I already mentioned that I did reply to him. But not as much as he did to me.

[grimmJow]

I will deal with this myself if everyone from staff agrees.

I am awaiting for Korays response.

I am 100% sure he is writing a long paragraph lies about me that I already mentioned that I did reply to him. But not as much as he did to me.

 Sami, mentioned that he will deal with it, himself, you should stop replying and wait please..

[CoiNNN]

So, youre someone that comes, makes an app gets denied makes another one because the server 'SURF' didnt get it, goes for 'JAILBREAK' gets denied goes to paid adminship and gets admin, I call that Powerhungry indeed.

The reason I said those things is because youre someone who tries to go with known people and try to get attention even though youre not worth it.

You went to the toilet? And thats the reason you started to ignore me and the whole server when you clearly was playing yourself but after you didnt say anything and you knew I was going to do something since I saw lady comming in and out of the cage, dont make an excuse with that please.

I'm saying what I see and by far I can tell you that youre someone who wants the rights to be one of those higher people around the staff, your favourite server was Surf right ? your app got denied and you suddenly 'stopped' playing surf even when it hat around 15 players?

You should know aswell that an admin has to follow the rules and you clearly dont know that, I have my sources and the people who tell me the things that happen in Jailbreak so dont worry about that mr.Coin.

to be honest, those last days I cant give any shizzle about the people around here and thats only because 1 dude left and didnt come back either.

Anyway, I 'apologize' for my behaviour even though this is something between us 2.

And now again, acting all bossy calling me "mr.coin" would not of expect that from you.
I told Tony to deny my admin application. Also as part of being paid admin or power hungry. If I am power hungry you have no right to accuse me about it. Nothing to do with you. Not like I am owner rank now? What's bothering you? What gives you the right to make you feel more empowered over me? Apology, means nothing in my opinion for you. Unless you get some type of warning. I am sure you Koray will not learn.

I did apply for Surf, and I am happy that it got denied, because I find Jailbreak more fun now. More for me. Once my paid admin finishes ill happily apply for admin for Jailbreak. Because its what I enjoy. I bought paid admin to prove I can manage it. I will probably apply for Jailbreak admin after this finishes. Nothing that should make you mad?

[Ed]

Koray, we don't care if it's between you two or not. If this is happening on the server in public, there should be consequences to that. You know very well our administrator policy and this is the one you are breaking. You are not an administrator on Jailbreak therefore Coin could have issued a warning to stop and/if you didn't, ban you for a period of time. Due to the fact he didn't and wasn't aware he could, this is going to slide.

Also, paid admin or not, he is helping with money and that's why there is paid admin packs, we are glad that some people tend to do it, we couldn't really care for what exactly the reasons they are doing it, but if they prove themselves to be trustworthy with a good head on their shoulders, then I don't see any problem with him being an admin.

Also, you yourself don't care about being an administrator, yet, you are admin in 2 servers. Isn't that power hunger in one way or another? You don't want to be or you don't care about it, but you are quite happy with having these rights? Right?
I can understand if people don't care about their rank and they want to help, but this attitude isn't helping anyone from your side.

I strongly believe that paid admins themselves are/should be higher than normal admins. Money is somewhat a tabu subject and I don't want to go that way, but I expected this to happen one day sooner or later.

If Coin did a bad job or disobeyed rules, can always tell me or make a report.

So to summarize it, this report will be solved. Koray, I issue you a verbal warning, that if this attitude keeps on going you will face consequences (which I doubt you care about anyway).

[Ray]

So, youre someone that comes, makes an app gets denied makes another one because the server 'SURF' didnt get it, goes for 'JAILBREAK' gets denied goes to paid adminship and gets admin, I call that Powerhungry indeed.

Deja vu ? That's what happened to you. No one called you powerhungry. Instead, i helped you fix your attitude and you improved a lot, and you actually got vip/admin after that.

The reason I said those things is because youre someone who tries to go with known people and try to get attention even though youre not worth it.

You are not the one to decide if he's worth it or not.
At least he's donating to Ambrosia and administrating on Jailbreak while you're provoking him.

I'm saying what I see and by far I can tell you that youre someone who wants the rights to be one of those higher people around the staff, your favourite server was Surf right ? your app got denied and you suddenly 'stopped' playing surf even when it hat around 15 players?

Once your opinion about what you see actually makes a difference in something "other than provoking", you're welcome to share it with us.

to be honest, those last days I cant give any shizzle about the people around here and thats only because 1 dude left and didnt come back either.

If your presence in Ambrosia depended on that 1 dude who left, then i don't think you're any more loyal than CoiN to be able to tell him what you said.
Your conversation with me on ts3 wasn't pleasant at all. So you don't give a shit about administrating ? So do you want me to link you the board where you post your resignation ?


As sami mentioned above, CoiN should have banned you indeed for provoking him.
And this topic is locked until the head admins responsible of Zombie Plague and Surf discuss this report.

[Rubix]

Do not take any action until I am ready to give a response.

[Rubix]

Coin has not provided legitimate evidence.
Steam chats will not be taken into consideration since what happens on Steam has nothing to do with us from my understanding.
However, this behaviour I have seen from you Koray is completely unacceptable.
Saying to Coin "<STEAM_0:1:50153152> Koray : youre not admin material anyway" is in none of your jurisdiction and therefore should not be said to him on the server.
I understand where Coin is coming from with the idea that your are provoking him, since from my understanding from the logs Coin had not said anything provocative nor out of order to cause you to say certain things as you did.
Also, Coin responding in the way you did also stating "<STEAM_0:1:63493398>CoiN : When you going to stop licking Rubix's arse ?" is not the way to respond in this situation.
Please contact a HA+ (preferably from the server you are on) to come and sort out the situation rather than retaliate and cause further issues.
This report will now be dropped, but Koray, do NOT take this lightly.
You will have further action taken towards you if anything of this sort occurs again.

Solved and Dropped.

[Card Clasher]

Coin has not provided legitimate evidence.
Steam chats will not be taken into consideration since what happens on Steam has nothing to do with us from my understanding.
However, this behaviour I have seen from you Koray is completely unacceptable.
Saying to Coin "<STEAM_0:1:50153152> Koray : youre not admin material anyway" is in none of your jurisdiction and therefore should not be said to him on the server.
I understand where Coin is coming from with the idea that your are provoking him, since from my understanding from the logs Coin had not said anything provocative nor out of order to cause you to say certain things as you did.
Also, Coin responding in the way you did also stating "<STEAM_0:1:63493398>CoiN : When you going to stop licking Rubix's arse ?" is not the way to respond in this situation.
Please contact a HA+ (preferably from the server you are on) to come and sort out the situation rather than retaliate and cause further issues.
This report will now be dropped, but Koray, do NOT take this lightly.
You will have further action taken towards you if anything of this sort occurs again.

Solved and Dropped.

Unlocked.

Actually what I see right there is immaturity from Koray starting an argument and you for replying back to him.

Also, I would like to point out a Paid Admin is not powerhungry and applies just like any other member. If he doesn't have the potential of becoming and Admin he would never carry the rank. He's to be decided on by the entire HA team instead of just one like a normal admin which makes his case harder to get accepted. He applied just like everybody else but rather funding for the rights instead of having them for free.

[CoiNNN]

To be honest I never thought I was accepted to ban him for that reason. And would of if i did know. Also Rubix I said i already did say bad stuff but i guess that was self defence in some type... But I am willing to talk it out with staff and Koray to sort this out from further arguements.

[Koray]

Oh well, Coin I'm sorry for the things I said about you even though some of them are true and tou can ask regular jailbreak players that. I actually had no reason to get mad at you and I hope you accept my appologize.

Turkish bromance again?

[Card Clasher]

Locked and archived.