I have been always doing wrong at such cases like this to take a certain side to defend, because that just keeps the argument going.
In supeegeents's case, I defened supergeent, in xeon's case I defend xeon, in proto's report about Under I clearly was defending proto.
But what should I have done instead is - make a post in seperate parts, where you tell, who and where was wrong or right, so guys we arguing about both would have the rights for a conclusion they themselves could come up with.
Then, insulting, provoking is never gonna fix anything at all. That includes Koray's complaints about proto's private life, Buddy's complaints about spelling, and other random mean posts you see around.
Many people need to work on this, (Polarbear is an another example in post below.) it's their lack of maturity, because that's EXACTLY what is causing an evil enviroment in a topic, creating a "drama".