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Recruitment & Justice => Staff Complaints & Misconduct => Resolved Staff Complaints => Topic started by: N4nDu on October 14, 2012, 10:09:23 pm

Title: [RESOLVED]Adrian | JLz
Post by: N4nDu on October 14, 2012, 10:09:23 pm
Hello,

Adrian is abusing his powers over and over again, he made me quit the game for typing in arabic without any warning or anything, I reconnected and tried to be friendly and told him to actually give me a warning first then he can make me quit. I didn't receive any answer though, after about 3 minutes of playing he makes another guy quit the game for an unknown reason. Here's a proof of my console, I couldn't take a screenshot obviously after quitting the game, anyhow I have some witnesses and one of them is the Jailbreak trial admin "Ph0eNiX".

[AMXX] ADMIN Adrian | JLz made N4nDu quit the game.
[AMXX] ADMIN Adrian | JLz made HoT-maN quit the game.

Yes, I know I actually forgot that rule, but a warning would have been enough really. I don't expect a huge punishment but I do expect some kind of a small punishment or at least a warning.

Thanks,
N4nDu :)
Title: Re: Adrian | JLz
Post by: tajski on October 14, 2012, 10:12:22 pm
Use the correct form next time ;)

Admin: Adrian | JLz
Server: Jailbreak
Date & Time: 8pm?
Complaint: Abusing his rights
Other Evidence (screenshots, demos...): Not provided?
Title: Re: Adrian | JLz
Post by: N4nDu on October 14, 2012, 10:13:48 pm
Use the correct form next time ;)

Admin: Adrian | JLz
Server: Jailbreak
Date & Time: 8pm?
Complaint: Abusing his rights
Other Evidence (screenshots, demos...): Not provided?

Ah sorry forgot that totally. My bad and thanks. Other evidence would be Witnesses and the text, I know it's not a strong proof but I obviously can't take any screenshot when he makes me quit the game for no reason.
Title: Re: Adrian | JLz
Post by: Ph0eNiX on October 14, 2012, 10:14:37 pm
i told adrian many times to warn any player who swears/type another language be4 kicking or quiting him , but he quit guys without any warnings

its not a big deal nandu .. but its kind of a warn to make adrian warn players b4 quiting them .
Title: Re: Adrian | JLz
Post by: Adrian^^ on October 14, 2012, 10:27:10 pm
god... ahm u can chek the logs i did warn some guy b4 u nandu english oly pls. since he talked some language (im guesing arabic, but not sure, dont want to be racist) anyways i did warn to times. Even on the map b4 i warned teh same guy 2 times. so thats 3 warning. i quit after that. i dont know if u were the one i warned 3 times or not. i just know i did warn. i always do. as for the second guy. he started advertising like a baws. he spammed the chat 10 times with ip and name of a server. if he would have spammed 2 times or so i would have warned him. but he repeatetly spammed it. I dont abuse my rights mate. I do what is needed to keep the server clean. Idk u tbh but as far as phoenix told me ur an oldie. so yea i gues u know ambrosia jb aswell as i do. but i know that if somebody like hot man or w/e his name was spamms 10 times he wont stop. so yea cheers
Oh yea not to mention those nice words u left in admin chat towards me after i did quit u. "Retarded kid" That sounds so friendly..
Title: Re: Adrian | JLz
Post by: 'PL' on October 14, 2012, 10:31:33 pm
Sorry, but ambrosia doesn't take witness accountants. Your only way, is that if by chance somebody else recorded or screenshot the thing.
Seeing phoenix, as a trial admin taking the stand is alright since he is an "admin". Means he can be trusted more then other people (philosophy)-could be nepotism too
And yes, you have to give warnings to people before issuing admin commands. That is 100% correct!

I'm interested what adrian has to say about this, so i will stay neutral for now

@edit:
Adrian, if he spammed with that you can do some other options then quitting.
Warn-Clean
Warn-Kick
And when you warn, give the guy 1 round. Since if he isn't a good english speaker he will just continue pressing that key.
They are advertisers who don't have even knowledge they are doing it, because of some bad communities putting autobinds like that.

Other:
Apparently, he warned somebody else. When you are warning about that misconduct on a different party, the other party have to observe and also don't commit the action. There is an exception, if his multilingual misconduct was to help somebody understand something or maybe an important matter.
Title: Re: Adrian | JLz
Post by: Adrian^^ on October 14, 2012, 10:42:12 pm
i take that the last thing u said was in my favor anyway. i did warn somebody i dont watch the names to much. I know i said Eng only or quit! 2 times , (in about 3 mins) then the map changed to greytown i i went ct and i know that some guy (in this case nandu or w/e ur name is) started speaking arabic. I warned a third time afterwich he said something in arabic again. After that i dint really bother to look who's name it was since i know i i warned 3 times. So i quited. AS to the spammer. I warn if somebody spams 2 tiems or 3. But this guy went like :
"Server name 43123218261238123"
"Server name 43123218261238123"
"Server name 43123218261238123"
"Server name 43123218261238123"
"Server name 43123218261238123"
"Server name 43123218261238123"
"Server name 43123218261238123"
"Server name 43123218261238123"
"Server name 43123218261238123"
"Server name 43123218261238123"
"Server name 43123218261238123"
"Server name 43123218261238123"

and i qutied him
Title: Re: Adrian | JLz
Post by: N4nDu on October 14, 2012, 10:54:56 pm
i take that the last thing u said was in my favor anyway. i did warn somebody i dont watch the names to much. I know i said Eng only or quit! 2 times , (in about 3 mins) then the map changed to greytown i i went ct and i know that some guy (in this case nandu or w/e ur name is) started speaking arabic. I warned a third time afterwich he said something in arabic again. After that i dint really bother to look who's name it was since i know i i warned 3 times. So i quited. AS to the spammer. I warn if somebody spams 2 tiems or 3. But this guy went like :
"Server name 43123218261238123"
"Server name 43123218261238123"
"Server name 43123218261238123"
"Server name 43123218261238123"
"Server name 43123218261238123"
"Server name 43123218261238123"
"Server name 43123218261238123"
"Server name 43123218261238123"
"Server name 43123218261238123"
"Server name 43123218261238123"
"Server name 43123218261238123"
"Server name 43123218261238123"

and i qutied him

I said one sentence in arabic only and I've not seen any warnings in the admin chat nor in the normal chat. As *PL* said, it's too harsh making someone quit the game just for speaking in another language and I've seen people writing in foreign languages before me without being warned nor quit. As I said in my first post, I didn't expect a punishment but kind of a warning so let this be your warning. I would love to see someone making you quit for a reason you don't know at the beginning and see your reply to that admin.
Title: Re: Adrian | JLz
Post by: Adrian^^ on October 14, 2012, 10:57:36 pm
wow u think i didnt get quited when i started jB? i didnt cry about it. Its just a quit i didnt kill u. anyway i always say taht in white chat. High staff can chek the logs . I wont apologise for what i have done. i know that i do warn people and in this case i did warn 3 times with white caht or mic eng only . And if ur so smart and know rules u should know that its eng only. so why did u say that in anotehr language? ha ha? Smart guy. And still i didnt quit u for swearing wich iregret tbh
Title: Re: Adrian | JLz
Post by: яᴇɢᴀʟᴛᴇʀʀᴏʀ~ on October 14, 2012, 10:58:24 pm
Well a guy called HoT MaN joined the game and started mass advertise i cleaned him and then adrian quit him. adriean maybe u have to clean the person first and if he continues u lead it to a kick/quit/ban. Thanks. :)
Title: Re: Adrian | JLz
Post by: Pim on October 14, 2012, 11:01:52 pm
Quote
[AMXX] ADMIN Adrian | JLz made N4nDu quit the game.
[AMXX] ADMIN Adrian | JLz made HoT-maN quit the game.

ehm...
if you get quited how did you get these logs O_o?

anyways
i was there at that moment and you did kinda spam it
Title: Re: Adrian | JLz
Post by: N4nDu on October 14, 2012, 11:22:32 pm
Quote
[AMXX] ADMIN Adrian | JLz made N4nDu quit the game.
[AMXX] ADMIN Adrian | JLz made HoT-maN quit the game.

ehm...
if you get quited how did you get these logs O_o?

anyways
i was there at that moment and you did kinda spam it

I got them from Ph0eNiX. High staff are free to check the logs I don't mind, they can see that not a single warning was given after me joining the server. I know the rules, but I've seen other people writing in other languages and not getting warned nor kicked, furthermore I typed a single simple arabic sentence and get quit instantly. You don't know how pissed you get after 2-3 years not joining Jailbreak and then getting quit in a matter of seconds, do you? I joined, the "Freeze-Tag" day started and in less than a minute you quit me. :)
Title: Re: Adrian | JLz
Post by: Mister on October 14, 2012, 11:29:27 pm
That was LOLy :D
Epic report
Nothing to report
I even to this some times when the do something really bad or many time
Drop itttt

P.S: as i saw monster is checking this
Answer steam pls
Title: Re: Adrian | JLz
Post by: Duke Devlin on October 14, 2012, 11:32:20 pm
useless report again
Title: Re: Adrian | JLz
Post by: MonsteR on October 14, 2012, 11:33:28 pm
Well normaly admins must do warn then kick then quit or ban it depends.

I think logs will be checked and the final answer will be given.


Regards,
Monster
Title: Re: Adrian | JLz
Post by: Adrian^^ on October 14, 2012, 11:35:40 pm
Quote
[AMXX] ADMIN Adrian | JLz made N4nDu quit the game.
[AMXX] ADMIN Adrian | JLz made HoT-maN quit the game.

ehm...
if you get quited how did you get these logs O_o?

anyways
i was there at that moment and you did kinda spam it

I got them from Ph0eNiX. High staff are free to check the logs I don't mind, they can see that not a single warning was given after me joining the server. I know the rules, but I've seen other people writing in other languages and not getting warned nor kicked, furthermore I typed a single simple arabic sentence and get quit instantly. You don't know how pissed you get after 2-3 years not joining Jailbreak and then getting quit in a matter of seconds, do you? I joined, the "Freeze-Tag" day started and in less than a minute you quit me. :)
HA there is ur lie. HA I GOT U lier.  We did Ft on xmf right? u said u joined then. but after freez we did 1 more knife day and we changed map to greytown. and on the first fd of greytown at around 6:20 (just guessing) i quited u. And im sure that in those 7 mins if not more i warned ATLEAST 2 times about english language. So there u go i caught u lieing. High staff can even chek logs . So there we go.U joined at smf, and u got quited 1 min after? FT lasted 5 mins mate.. + knifeday + few mins from fd on greytown. so there u go mate. and again. ur the one who came back and said " retarded kid" in admin chat. and phoenix said nono he didnt swear.
Title: Re: Adrian | JLz
Post by: N4nDu on October 15, 2012, 12:05:43 am
What the hell are you talking about? You quit me during the freezetag day... I was in a room full of boxes even, I got to it through the vent beside the gun room. I was tagged there and stood still frozen obviously, then I said the Arabic sentence. After that I was untagged by someone and I ran through a door and saw a terrorist tagged in the air I jumped, slashed and boom my desktop shows up out of nowhere. Where are your seven minutes? I rejoined to actually to ask you for the reason. Then I went afk to post this topic and when I came back you weren't  there and my score was even 1 - 4... ;-) Davedevlin and mister just stay out of this please you have nothing to do here. Thanks
Title: Re: Adrian | JLz
Post by: terraboN on October 15, 2012, 12:07:10 am
You guys have to remember that even if he did warn someone else it does mean that he is warning all, so if he did warn a different player or him i think action should have been taken.
Also you guys know adrian, strict doggy, get used to it xDDDD
Title: Re: Adrian | JLz
Post by: N4nDu on October 15, 2012, 12:11:36 am
As I said before I have not seen a single warning about this. GriM please, read then talk. Thank you
Title: Re: Adrian | JLz
Post by: Adrian^^ on October 15, 2012, 12:14:17 am
what is wrong with u? i want to say something but since im an admin and i have a concience i wont say it. U got quited on greytown. not on xmf. or did i quit another guy named n4*** on greytown that rejoined and called me a retaded kid after getting a quit for talking arabic and by god replica convinced me to apologise but after seeing how u are, i rather get demoted than do that. Im not afraid of u mate.  I didnt do anything wrong to be afraid. Even if by some miracle monster gets drunk and really does belive u and warns me and demotes me idc. I know waht i did is right , a bit harsh but it was right. Idc if i didnt warn U in person 20000 times. Why would i warn u 2000 times if i warn 1 guy and i counts in general. So what if some guy speehacks and i ban him JUST HIm does that mean u can speedhack and i have to make new rules JUST COUZE UR AN OLDIE? u think i give a potato about u not joining for 2 years? i dont. I dont know u and i dont want to know u since as i can see ur just acting like a child. crying couze of a quit that was just tbh. And yea stop crying to me that we admin dont warn ppl who speak other languages or swear. Im always the first admin that Says in admin chat Either Eng only or quit ! or No swearing or quit. i always say that and u can ask anybody. Im a good admin on jb and i know it. i dont need some 10 year old crying on forums to high staff that he got quit. U think i care? i dont at all. I like jb thats why i even applied. I got accepted and i did my job good. No reports no nothing untill u bothered to come. WOW U GOT A QUIT SUE ME. KILL ME. -.-

Can u resolve this topic pls? nothing really to discuss. Maybe the quit was a bit to harsh but i can be a strict admin why not? Is there anywhere in the rules that i cant be? CRY ME A RIVER PL0x!

Oh and DUKEDEVLIN and mister are both welcome to post here.. since 1 is admin and the other 1 is vip on jb. So they have every rights to comment
Title: Re: Adrian | JLz
Post by: terraboN on October 15, 2012, 12:16:42 am
As I said before I have not seen a single warning about this. GriM please, read then talk. Thank you

I have read this so do not think i am the type of people who just reply for posts or such.I also know adrian and know what type of admin he is, he does warn people but i think for him 1 warning is enough so i think you have to learn and deal with that with him. however as i do not have any evidence to see then i cannot say anything more.
Title: Re: Adrian | JLz
Post by: N4nDu on October 15, 2012, 12:24:33 am
Hahaha that post made me laugh hard thanks for that. You're the expert aren't you? Now you tell me in which map can you see a dark room full of boxes with a vent in its wall and a big large door that leads to a lobby. You quit me in that lobby as I said before. You quit me before the map change and I rejoined after the map change. Now let that watermelon placed on your neck work and think.
Title: Re: Adrian | JLz
Post by: ~RoN on October 15, 2012, 12:26:40 am
Well what can i say every day i see people trying to push admins till they quit you guys and well he warned you i was also in the server he said "English only" for another guy.

So that means that he warned everyone but you typed again in another language so that means that you dont care what admin says some people are provoking admins and pushing them i would say that some of them are to much patient. Every day what i see in jailbreak believe me for an admin is not easy to controle all.

Because i think you know the rules that is only english than why you go in server an type in another language that means that you are ignoring rules i know what happen but people like you that they know rules and they break them i think its not acceptable by staff.

And let me remaind you that jailbreak server is the most difficult to handle it its not like dd2 or classic  and for me the only thing i have to say here that it was your fault. And i dont understand why people report admins when they know that is your faults. Every one can make mistakes but you ignored the warning.

Adrian didn't do any thing wrong you just pushed him thats all. 

With all my Respect Roni
Title: Re: Adrian | JLz
Post by: N4nDu on October 15, 2012, 12:30:01 am
For the 10th time I have not, I repeat again, I have not seen a single warning about this issue by adrian nor by any other admin on the server. And I have never said it was an easy job as I have experienced this before. But still, an admin has to be careful with his actions, he should have kicked me... Quitting a player is way too harsh for speaking in his language for the first time ever or am I wrong?
Title: Re: Adrian | JLz
Post by: Pim on October 15, 2012, 12:31:56 am
Hahaha that post made me laugh hard thanks for that. You're the expert aren't you? Now you tell me in which map can you see a dark room full of boxes with a vent in its wall and a big large door that leads to a lobby. You quit me in that lobby as I said before. You quit me before the map change and I rejoined after the map change. Now let that watermelon placed on your neck work and think.

Tbh this post sound rather disrespectfull and i suggest you change the attitute or this report to adrian can turn itself to you
Title: Re: Adrian | JLz
Post by: ~RoN on October 15, 2012, 12:33:22 am
For the 10th time I have not, I repeat again, I have not seen a single warning about this issue by adrian nor by any other admin on the server.
Well than this can just go to resolved since if you didn't see admins will think that you ignored their warnings so have a bit attention next time and he wont quit you. And if you didn't see than there is no reason to keep this topic open since its not adrian fault that you didn't see the warining he didn't close your monitor or he didn't hide your screen.
Title: Re: Adrian | JLz
Post by: N4nDu on October 15, 2012, 12:37:47 am
What is wrong with you people? First Pim, did I swear there? Let me answer, no. Roni, I wasn't in the server for more than 2 minutes and in these 2 minutes before he made me quit he didn't warn anyone at all. Weird people here really, no offense.
Title: Re: Adrian | JLz
Post by: ~RoN on October 15, 2012, 12:42:43 am
What is wrong with you people? First Pim, did I swear there? Let me answer, no. Roni, I wasn't in the server for more than 2 minutes and in these 2 minutes before he made me quit he didn't warn anyone at all. Weird people here really, no offense.
Well than he didn't know that you just joined because i remember very good when he said english only well you call us weird people the only thing what i was doing here try to understand and try to solve this things thats all because admins are doing hard job and thats all what i will say if you think that i am weird just because i am trying to solve this than i have nothing to say.

/i am out.

Title: Re: Adrian | JLz
Post by: Daniel on October 15, 2012, 02:39:25 am
I believe that all what you guys wanted to said, its already there. Logs will be checked on behalf of monster and final decision will be posted later. Locked 'till then :)
Title: Re: Adrian | JLz
Post by: MonsteR on October 15, 2012, 11:26:28 pm
It was a bit harsh decision that he quited you but when you play at the server you must know the rules also he cant warn every single person admin in JB use a bind and warn all the players and after that if they see some1 breaking the rule which they warned for they take action and lets dont forget there is something like bind which shows on ever few min saying that only english is allowed.

No action will be taken against Adrian.


Regards,
Monster


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Title: Re: Adrian | JLz
Post by: Raven E II R on October 15, 2012, 11:28:33 pm
Seal of the Emperors.
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