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Title: Screenshot to spot hackers
Post by: Ryu on October 10, 2011, 08:12:46 pm
Dear Ambrosia members,I played once on a server. The admin thought I was hacking so what suddenly happend was. My screen went white.... also the admin made 3 screenshots. He took me out of the game couldnt join any team only spectator. He said u can play after you send the screenshots to me. Actually I think its quite a good system. If he refuse to upload you just ban him, because he has hacks. Doesnt matter how skilled you are. If you can see his screen you will know if he has wh. Aimbot is easier to detect its a obvious hack. Best regards,Ryu
Title: Screenshot to spot hackers
Post by: Arne on October 10, 2011, 08:13:51 pm
We already had it, maybe we sitll have it. But none used it.
Title: Screenshot to spot hackers
Post by: Sight on October 10, 2011, 08:16:22 pm
they will take spectator slots.. we want a fully active dust2 server, not 8 spectators lol.
Title: Screenshot to spot hackers
Post by: Ryu on October 10, 2011, 08:17:04 pm
hmz yes mayb let them stay banned. Post on forum and get unban? =) Atleast some real solid evidence that they are clean.
Title: Screenshot to spot hackers
Post by: aq- on October 10, 2011, 09:24:20 pm
I played back to lithuania server where we had the same system, no demo and etc just screenshot system and it was working fine had the solid evidence of cheating or clear player, but we did realize that Windows 7 and steam app don't get along very well, some how steam and windows blocking amx_screen command and all the players get is black scrrenshot or no screen at all, unless before you run cs 1.6 u run it as administrator, but when ppl got that they said they are clean just dont get and shot's cuz they did new they have to run cs as administraot dont know which screenshot system ambrosia use (used) but thats what heppen to us :)
Title: Screenshot to spot hackers
Post by: Silver shooter on October 10, 2011, 09:30:40 pm
Don't you think screen shot can be edited by photoshop?Just asking. As some walls in maps with WH can be rubbed away as actual figure in the map if a player is using ESP Wallhack.Even on non-Esp wallhack, it can be done, but not on all ^_^Just thinking, i go and hack on Dd2 Server, make all leave because of me, and later admin comes and take my screen shot, and what happens is i ask my friend or i my self use photoshop and waste 1 hour to make exact figure.
Title: Screenshot to spot hackers
Post by: tαshαღ on October 10, 2011, 10:17:41 pm
Not 100% sure but when I came across this screenshot tool before it was saved in a different format, not something which could be opened by paint or photoshop you had to download another program to see it, a half life one, cant remember the name. But I 10000% agree with this idea, should be put on all servers. Is really hard to see if someone is wallhacking etc on jailbreak but this would make it easy and then if they apply for unban then upload screenshots it would solve things quicker!
Title: Screenshot to spot hackers
Post by: Sight on October 10, 2011, 10:23:45 pm
isnt it better to install that auto demo recorder then tasha?
Title: Screenshot to spot hackers
Post by: tαshαღ on October 10, 2011, 10:25:35 pm
Are you trolling me for always recording demo's or is an auto demo recorder a genuine thing, i'm assuming it's HLTV?
Title: Screenshot to spot hackers
Post by: Silver shooter on October 10, 2011, 10:31:38 pm
Auto Demo recorder was already on suggestions before, and i think thats a good idea.I saw one another community using it too.
Title: Screenshot to spot hackers
Post by: Sight on October 10, 2011, 10:33:57 pm
autodemo recorder records a player when he joins, in his cstrike directory, so if a admin record his demo and he bans him for example: wallhack, the player makes a unban request and we request a demo from his side, if he deleted it or whatever then the request can take a longer time then usual.
Title: Screenshot to spot hackers
Post by: tαshαღ on October 10, 2011, 10:35:44 pm
But if they're really active won't it start clogging up with constant demos? Still prefer the screenshot idea personally, on JB I bet theres loads of people who WH just to see when is a good time to rebel and escape roots and stuff and go unnoticed. Some people can hide WH well
Title: Screenshot to spot hackers
Post by: Sight on October 10, 2011, 10:40:31 pm
it wont, if the player joins the server again it will override the old demo if im correct, i used this before on my old community and it works splendid.we can atleast try this on public or something, and if it works without issues we can move it to other servers ;)also you can name the demos to the server names, so they wont override them selfs
Title: Screenshot to spot hackers
Post by: Aleks on October 11, 2011, 04:45:41 am
Good idea to add SSBANS and autodemo recorder.Less job for admins we will be realy lazy soon. ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Screenshot to spot hackers
Post by: Burningsoul on October 11, 2011, 02:11:18 pm
http://ambrosia-servers.com/forum/index.php?topic=5443.0 (http://ambrosia-servers.com/forum/index.php?topic=5443.0):)I think we have it... :D but i dont know if people now how to use it honey beans :)
Title: Screenshot to spot hackers
Post by: Sight on October 11, 2011, 02:26:05 pm
http://ambrosia-servers.com/forum/index.php?topic=5443.0 (http://ambrosia-servers.com/forum/index.php?topic=5443.0):)I think we have it... :D but i dont know if people now how to use it honey beans :)
its not working ;). auto demo recorder is better in my oppinion. i remember arne telling me it was being discussed between higherstaff, but i never knew the outcome.
Title: Screenshot to spot hackers
Post by: Burningsoul on October 11, 2011, 02:32:33 pm
Cant we make it working :? I would love to use it :) I prefer ss btw than Auto demo recorder. Reasons:- People can be really active and everytime they joing they will make a demo... (tasha pointed out this problem)- SS we will use only when needed. Its going to be easy, i guess.- I want to use this kind of things since i like banning people on dm.Surf Btw if we have the ss plugin for admins what can we spot except wh? anything else?
Title: Screenshot to spot hackers
Post by: Fruits~oRaNge on October 11, 2011, 03:34:32 pm
I don't know where to get screenshots because I just installed this game from a link deniz gave me so if someone suspects me I won't have any evidence.
Title: Screenshot to spot hackers
Post by: Ryu on October 11, 2011, 09:00:49 pm
U can find the screens in your cs folder where also the demos are stored. Example programfiles/steam/steamapps/[email protected] in that folder u can find then screenshots. Ryu
Title: Screenshot to spot hackers
Post by: Sight on October 11, 2011, 09:08:39 pm
dude, autodemo recorder records a demo each time you join the server. this is for ALL players and admins automaticly.if a player cheats we will see it in his demo :)
Title: Screenshot to spot hackers
Post by: Burningsoul on October 11, 2011, 09:13:34 pm
How is this guy going to know which demo to prove. Or how are we going to know which demo he shows us? IT can be a demo before 3 days ago...
Title: Screenshot to spot hackers
Post by: Silver shooter on October 11, 2011, 09:53:46 pm
If you really ask me, the good part on AutoDemo Recorder is that Some Important Kills, which are like totally amazing for us, and worth Youtube will be auto recorded.We will just go and remove it from steam folder before it get over writed and been removed auto while connecting.
Title: Screenshot to spot hackers
Post by: Sight on October 11, 2011, 10:11:00 pm
How is this guy going to know which demo to prove. Or how are we going to know which demo he shows us? IT can be a demo before 3 days ago...
everytime he joins the server there will be a 20 seconds delay(adjustable) before it will start auto recording.if it finds a same demoname(demoname = servername) it will overwrite the older demo and continue recording. if he joins other server (example: ambrosia jailbreak) it will create a new demo file named "ambrosiajailbreak.dem" (again you can adjust this on the serverside)explained enough?
Title: Screenshot to spot hackers
Post by: Burningsoul on October 11, 2011, 10:59:27 pm
Prefer ss :D
Title: Screenshot to spot hackers
Post by: Sight on October 12, 2011, 12:44:06 am
i think ryu means this plugin:http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=85905 (http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=85905)found it on a rusty usb pendrive, i alwaays include the original download link with my plugins xD
Title: Screenshot to spot hackers
Post by: Ryu on October 12, 2011, 03:25:58 pm
Yes thats the one !! U can upload it right away :)
Title: Screenshot to spot hackers
Post by: Sight on October 12, 2011, 03:50:26 pm
well no, needs approval.
Title: Screenshot to spot hackers
Post by: relax1 on October 12, 2011, 06:25:54 pm
just add both autodemo recorder and ss better ....
Title: Screenshot to spot hackers
Post by: Rawrplus on October 12, 2011, 06:30:50 pm
Yes but when we're aiming for world nr.1 server (what we are), we can't afford loosing 8 slots on spectator.
Title: Screenshot to spot hackers
Post by: Fruits~oRaNge on October 12, 2011, 06:36:11 pm
U can find the screens in your cs folder where also the demos are stored. Example programfiles/steam/steamapps/[email protected] in that folder u can find then screenshots. Ryu
I don't have steam cs. I just have a cs game installed from internet that deniz sent to me.
Title: Screenshot to spot hackers
Post by: relax1 on October 13, 2011, 01:07:49 pm
autodemo record got only 1 slot is like HLTV , ss is just a plugin.Its better for us .
Title: Screenshot to spot hackers
Post by: Sight on October 13, 2011, 01:18:01 pm
what the hell are you talking about? autodemo recording isnt taking any slots at all.its a plugin that just records a demo CLIENT side, not on the server, but on the players side, demo is saved there
Title: Screenshot to spot hackers
Post by: relax1 on October 13, 2011, 02:41:43 pm
what the hell are you talking about? autodemo recording isnt taking any slots at all.its a plugin that just records a demo CLIENT side, not on the server, but on the players side, demo is saved there
I said to add both , cuz there will not take any slots ..... only if we add HLTVi saw many server with this , when i joined server demo start recording till  i disconnect from server.about them who said he can chage demo u can do this way , when u want to ban him b4 u ban u make on him screenshot and then when he post demo he must post ss too .... but its better if u record him too .
Title: Screenshot to spot hackers
Post by: ♪♪♫ Toxic☆Hunter ツ on October 19, 2011, 02:05:23 pm
Not sure if some1 mentioned it, but the person who knows how to edit the pictures will know how to remove "hacking" stuff from that screenshot, so it's not so helping, he'll just upload clean pictures and continue playing with hax :D
Title: Screenshot to spot hackers
Post by: Ryu on October 20, 2011, 11:39:18 pm
This topic quite active. I think most of the people agree its a good method to spot hackers. Just make a screeny... They see instructions upload the file and are allowed to play again. Quite fast and effective way. Skilled players are often victim of being banned from ambrosia servers... lack of admin with experience. This will be a great solution for them. its a Win Win for us + for the players. I only daubt the fact.. Newer cheats.... can they auto turn off the hacks even when u make a screen ? Best regards,Ryu