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Recycling => National Archives => Server Archives => Topic started by: Ocelvon on October 09, 2011, 07:08:56 pm
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I want to create a new section to the jb rules
The admin rules since there are people breaking rules without knowing it so thats why i propose the creating of a new section
Admin rules:
1-Admins cannot use admin controls for their own amusement
2-Going live spectator (going spectator and reviving) is not allowed for admins
3-Admins cannot be afk in the server because that will disable the /voteban making the players vulnerable to rule breakers cheaters etc. (just leave the server and when you return reenter)
4-Admin's job is to assure that the server rules are applied correctly and to help everyone have fun(special days)
5-Admin's have the ability to speak in the mic as a T however they must not use it constantly as it disrupts the gameplay, therefore use it only when needed in important cases. Voice changer isn't allowed.
6-Admins cannot spam on the whitechat(the chat that admins use) they should only use it to contact/warn a person (example:your dead and you want to say something important to someone then you must use the whitechat)
7-Admins must ban banvaders without hesitation.If you do not complete this rule you may face a possible demotion
I got those rules set up and i probably forgot some so if i did type :D
Also type what you think about it
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live spectator can only be done with a very valid reason, if the reason given is not valid the admin will get 1 week suspended.suggestion..
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live spectator can only be done with a very valid reason, if the reason given is not valid the admin will get 1 week suspended.suggestion..
Warnings are to be measured when they happenSome live specs are worse than others depends on the cirumstancesSo we won't say HOW LONG the suspension ishowever i can Probably i can add something...
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Maybe include something about serial mic spamming while admins are T's? Sometimes admins use their mics a bit too much as t's and even talk over ct's or laugh down their mics while someone is trying to command
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i saw too many admin who use mic whe thay are T when some1 admin is T he use his mic and make nois sounds like ouch ouch ouch xD or somthing eals
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I wanna try live spec :(
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Maybe include something about serial mic spamming while admins are T's? Sometimes admins use their mics a bit too much as t's and even talk over ct's or laugh down their mics while someone is trying to command
Added thank you for your help :)
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No more ideas? :'(
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No crying in white chat when they get killed or using white chat to complain/cry/whine.
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No crying in white chat when they get killed or using white chat to complain/cry/whine.
Added! :DThx
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One annoying thing from my past :white chat/tsay between admins were used unnecessary a lot to say helo,ownd,lol,etc,..I was running cs on 480x640 so it was filling my screen with this unnecessary stuff, what can be used in normal chat.aw, usuless post, u edit rules. GJ
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One annoying thing from my past :white chat/tsay between admins were used unnecessary a lot to say helo,ownd,lol,etc,..I was running cs on 480x640 so it was filling my screen with this unnecessary stuff, what can be used in normal chat.aw, usuless post, u edit rules. GJ
Yep.. lots of "WTF MAN OMG OWNED" "LOLOLOL WTFZ MAN DUDEZ OMFGZ SO OWNED"" "HEADSHOT!!!!!!!!!!!"can be quite distracting.. especially when the white chat is overlapping each other cos there's 4 at a time, its not really a regular occurrence any more though. Could maybe add bickering between admins in white chat, sometimes this happens and it's kind of sad to see people fighting in white chat as it gets the whole server involved
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Why on Earth do we need to be live spectators ? That is just made for own amusement.. -.-I never liked that rule and never will .. It will be better if you say it like this:" NO live spectator, no matter if you are admin or not."If you want to spec something go spectator, press space and then click Free Look. You won't interfere in the game play.. ps The other rules are ok by me.
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Why on Earth do we need to be live spectators ? That is just made for own amusement.. -.-I never liked that rule and never will .. It will be better if you say it like this:" NO live spectator, no matter if you are admin or not."If you want to spec something go spectator, press space and then click Free Look. You won't interfere in the game play.. ps The other rules are ok by me.
Good point on the live spec...maybe we need to discuss this further
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why discuss.. its basicly not needed for regular admins? i do admit i used it last time, but that was due testing the ballplugin which i finally managed to get working. (a good few weeks ago)
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why discuss.. its basicly not needed for regular admins? i do admit i used it last time, but that was due testing the ballplugin which i finally managed to get working. (a good few weeks ago)
Your an UC It is self explanatory :DAnd if no one disagrees i can add right now that live spec IS NOT ALLOWED
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I also agree normal admins have no need for it. It's easier to just type kill in console and spectate if there's a speedhacker, if someone goes lifespectate for the reason of seeing a hacker it's likely the hacker will stop there and there when they notice admin commands reviving in spectate. IMO live spectator shouldnt be allowed for normal admins or trial admins at all
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Why on Earth do we need to be live spectators ? That is just made for own amusement.. -.-I never liked that rule and never will .. It will be better if you say it like this:" NO live spectator, no matter if you are admin or not."If you want to spec something go spectator, press space and then click Free Look. You won't interfere in the game play.. ps The other rules are ok by me.
Agree :)
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Tell me this, if all the terrorists are inside a cage and you spot a speedhacker, who accidentally activated his cheats. So he will speedhack only for some small amount of time. If you go normal spec, you need to go back and forth all the players to spot the hacker and eventually when you get to the person you assume was the speedhacker, he's not hacking, no proof, no ban or nothing. But if you go live spec, you just need to look at the T who speedhacked, you will see his name on your screen. Tell me, which method is easier if you have that kind of situation?Another rule suggestion:Admins shouldn't use public admin chat for whatever they feel like to say, e.g. if the person you're communicating is alive, you don't need to use PAC and you can also send a private message.Admins shouldn't comment everything on their microphones, for example, if a CT shoots an admin who's T as a warning shot, while another CT is commanding. You don't need to say "Ow", "What was that for?", "Why you shoot me?" and so on. Basically, don't use the mic as T for saying something that isn't important or just for commenting the gameplay, we can all see the gameplay ourselves too!Neither should an admin take everything said against them as flaming. This is an open community, where everyone has the right to express their minds. I've seen admins kicking people, just because they've said "Noob" or "idiot" to the admin. The definition of noob comes from the word "newcomer" or you just are not aware of the situation. So if you don't know some certain rules, then it's no offense for someone to call you a noob. For idiot, look it up from the dictionary. Why can we say that you're wise minded, but not saying that you're stupid (equivalent to idiot)? Please, if you don't believe me, google it..Sincerely,JF
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Tell me this, if all the terrorists are inside a cage and you spot a speedhacker, who accidently activated his cheats. So he will speedhack only for some small amount of time. If you go normal spec, you need to go back and forth all the players to spot the hacker and eventually when you get to the person you assume was the speedhacker, he's not hacking, no proof, no ban or nothing. But if you go live spec, you just need to look at the T who speedhacked, you will see his name on your screen. Tell me, which method is easier if you have that kind of situation?Another rule suggestion:Admins shouldn't use public admin chat for whatever they feel like to say, e.g. if the person you're communicating is alive, you don't need to use PAC and you can also send a private message.Admins shouldn't comment everything on their microphones, for example, if a CT shoots an admin who's T as a warning shot, while another CT is commanding. You don't need to say "Ow", "What was that for?", "Why you shoot me?" and so on. Basically, don't use the mic as T for saying something that isn't important or just for commenting the gameplay, we can all see the gameplay ourselves too!Sincerely,JF
If he's speedhacking around then it would be difficult to get his name anyway, but I'm sure all the other live terrorists will be there spamming the guys name anyway. And i'm sure if you started live speccing noclipping around the speedhacker that speedhacker would swiftly stop. So is it really NEEDED? I don't think so..
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Tasha, you're simply too narrow minded or not experienced enough to comment on it, if you haven't used it.It's like saying that I know what drugs to do me or I know what that tastes like, if you haven't never tried or ate it. Just saying that snails are grouse to eat and taste bad, doesn't make them bad. They're actually wonderfully good, so don't comment on something you're not competent in that matter enough.
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Is popay narrow minded too? If i was a speedhacker and saw an admin noclipping live spec around me i'd swiftly stop. It's much better to not draw attention to the fact many admins are and type kill in console and spectate rather than wasting time going into spec, reviving, and noclipping, all which would come up in the main chat as admin commands. It would take just as long to find the person clicking through all as it would by doing all those commands, only difference is one draws a lot of attention whereas the other doesn't. There is no real need for it if the job can be done better in a different way. Most admins use live spec for their own enjoyment rather than for a real purpose. Ooooosh thanks for the English language again JF! You know what the words mean better than those who use it! Noob and idiot are offensive to come, noob started out as a term for "newcomer" but gradually became more and more disrespectful as it began to be used in a disrespectful way. I wouldn't personally lose too much sleep over being called a noob or an idiot but i'm sure some people may get offended by it, but everyone takes these words in different ways depending on context
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Neither should an admin take everything said against them as flaming. This is an open community, where everyone has the right to express their minds. I've seen admins kicking people, just because they've said "Noob" or "idiot" to the admin. The definition of noob comes from the word "newcomer" or you just are not aware of the situation. So if you don't know some certain rules, then it's no offense for someone to call you a noob. For idiot, look it up from the dictionary. Why can we say that you're wise minded, but not saying that you're stupid (equivalent to idiot)? Please, if you don't believe me, google it..JF[/font][/color][/b][/i]
If i recall this is coming from one who thought it was ok to have racist jokes so along as it was in a jokey manner? Open community it is but admins have the judgement to decide if the player is being disrespectful or not.Also i agree with Tasha comment on live spectator, it shouldnt be used at all and i really cannot see any beneficial points coming from this.
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Is popay narrow minded too? If i was a speedhacker and saw an admin noclipping live spec around me i'd swiftly stop. It's much better to not draw attention to the fact many admins are and type kill in console and spectate rather than wasting time going into spec, reviving, and noclipping, all which would come up in the main chat as admin commands. It would take just as long to find the person clicking through all as it would by doing all those commands, only difference is one draws a lot of attention whereas the other doesn't. There is no real need for it if the job can be done better in a different way. Most admins use live spec for their own enjoyment rather than for a real purpose.
Live spec is also for checking bugs around the maps too, experimenting and etc...You can't experiment offline where you have a case which is needed 2+ people.In experimenting consist, bugs,problems,exploits,advantages,hidden rooms,guns.That's why i have difficultly checking new maps because 2 opinions are better then one :DDeniz admitted that he was using it for the ball plugin.To make it easier, admins can do that for map reviews and tests.Yesterday i was with one admin in an other community checking the maps which tasha posted and i got more accurate results then now. And they can do it via online on a public server to check them and comment in admin chat, no mic, no white chat and etc.
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Deniz is UC so he has the right to use it for testing. Are we admins going to add plug ins ourselves and test them? Nope.. This is a discussion for normal admins having the right to use them, not UC and above. Normal admins don't need to do these things since it's not our job, our job is to help clean the server out not to deal with server add ons and problems.
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Ezza, I'm not even going to go deep in that topic, which has been discussed long time ago, so don't be childish to start a war over a war that has already been fought, ok? I already know that you get a long with tasha bit too much, especially if you want to look at it from a profession side. And I agree with replica, you can't test the maps with offline mode.And please tasha, if you take everything so serious and personal, go have some anger management lessons, you really do need them. If you can't be tolerant to anything, then ban absolutely everone. Because when a muslim comes online and says "Go Allah!", then not all, but some do get offended, simply because they don't care about religion. Or when someone says a noob to a normal player, why doesn't that guy get banned for being offensive?? Why don't we just forbid that word!? So everytime someone says noob, BURN BABY BURN!!?? Don't be so damn stupid or narrow minded please?? It's too annoying when one person thinks that he/she is dominating over someone, when everyone are equal.
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I don't see the point of admins testing out maps, when I add maps to a server I always test them my self ;), if a admin wants to test he can start a explore day(on new maps only)Just amx_godmode @all.0:00? Amx_rocket @all.Easy and resolved, there is ur maptest day. No noclip for needed
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I don't see the point of admins testing out maps, when I add maps to a server I always test them my self ;), if a admin wants to test he can start a explore day(on new maps only)Just amx_godmode @all.0:00? Amx_rocket @all.Easy and resolved, there is ur maptest day. No noclip for needed
Yep agree. when the last bunch of maps were added I can remember an admin godmoding all and allowed us to test the map for 1 or 2 rounds and it was fun. No need for live spec at all for normal admins since its more used for their own enjoyment of just noclipping around. JF please stop insulting me saying I need anger management, I'm fine thank you.
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Why is jf and tasha discussion the words that are considered to be offensive.....? :-X
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Ezza, I'm not even going to go deep in that topic, which has been discussed long time ago, so don't be childish to start a war over a war that has already been fought, ok? I already know that you get a long with tasha bit too much, especially if you want to look at it from a profession side. And I agree with replica, you can't test the maps with offline mode..
This has nothing to do with old wars, its an open discussion whereby you seem to think its ok to have noob or idiot or any other words so long as its not in a informal manner. The fact that i get along with Tasha has no bearing on my posting whatsoever, i have stated before in the higher discussion board that live spectator shouldnt be used and have simply repeated my thoughts here. If you think that Tasha has influenced my decision then your very very wrong.Similarly i agree with Deniz that theres no real reason for admins to test out maps by using live spectator
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I haven't discussed the words because I don't think its a hard concept to follow the fact that words can be interpreted differently in different contexts and situations. JF is just going on ranting as usual. Add live spec to rules MCAIN!!!
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Add live spec to rules MCAIN!!!
Check before commentingI edited it a long time agoPS:mordred? :D
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Wooops sorry I missed those posts when i went to bed. You'll always be Mcain to me. Anyways maybe something like clearing up when amx_revive can be used? Like if someone has a FD, but glow didn't work (sometimes it bugs if you glow too early i think? keep seeing people getting glowed then their glow not working) are we allowed to revive them ? Or if someone just gets freekilled by mistake near the start of the round? I know it can be used for special days etc etc but I want it clearing up if we can revive the people who get accidently freekilled
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amx_revive shouldnt be used at all, if you want to revive a player just do "amx_transfer playername T/CT" 2 times. he will be revived without guns.if i rule out the amx_revive in amx_super the whole alive spectator thing is dead, as you cannot do amx_transfer playername spec cuz it will just be a regular spectator
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Ezza, I'm not even going to go deep in that topic, which has been discussed long time ago, so don't be childish to start a war over a war that has already been fought, ok? I already know that you get a long with tasha bit too much, especially if you want to look at it from a profession side. And I agree with replica, you can't test the maps with offline mode.And please tasha, if you take everything so serious and personal, go have some anger management lessons, you really do need them. If you can't be tolerant to anything, then ban absolutely everone. Because when a muslim comes online and says "Go Allah!", then not all, but some do get offended, simply because they don't care about religion. Or when someone says a noob to a normal player, why doesn't that guy get banned for being offensive?? Why don't we just forbid that word!? So everytime someone says noob, BURN BABY BURN!!?? Don't be so damn stupid or narrow minded please?? It's too annoying when one person thinks that he/she is dominating over someone, when everyone are equal.
Why religions are always getting involved ? especially islam -.-Personally , every time i see anything that have to do with religions e.g Islam Go to hell / Christians shall go to hell / jews r .. etc i warn them if they dont stop i would quit them or ban them even if he is a christian , a muslim , a jew or even a scientologist ... -.-
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Mordred perhaps you should also put that any admins who do NOT ban ban evaders will be automatically demoted! From my understanding im aware that some admins allow ban evaders to play just because they are "friends" ::)
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Haha, Reply in time Ezza :Dand the admins who do these things knows theirselves, so beware ;)
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Mordred perhaps you should also put that any admins who do NOT ban ban evaders will be automatically demoted! From my understanding im aware that some admins allow ban evaders to play just because they are "friends" ::)
i soo agree with this. i have seen countless times where other admins just leave a banevader playing.. en when i joined and quited that guy i was the one getting flamed by them
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Mordred perhaps you should also put that any admins who do NOT ban ban evaders will be automatically demoted! From my understanding im aware that some admins allow ban evaders to play just because they are "friends" ::)
i soo agree with this. i have seen countless times where other admins just leave a banevader playing.. en when i joined and quited that guy i was the one getting flamed by them
Like you when you just let pawn to play after removing his cover nick :DWait, i'll search my cs folder for demo :D
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replica, i left him playing because i was told shark and ezza was watching his behaviour in-game -.-... but he didnt behave so i ban and quited him after.no need to take effort for that ;)
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Mordred perhaps you should also put that any admins who do NOT ban ban evaders will be automatically demoted! From my understanding im aware that some admins allow ban evaders to play just because they are "friends" ::)
i soo agree with this. i have seen countless times where other admins just leave a banevader playing.. en when i joined and quited that guy i was the one getting flamed by them
Do realise sometimes WE ourselves don't know if the person banvadesI think i had that thing one day an admin came and automatically banned someone i went wtf and he explained :D
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i was talking about admins leaving exile playing.. like sami... and 2 others..
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i was talking about admins leaving exile playing.. like sami... and 2 others..
If it is clear that they are banvaders then OK here is the rule but i wanetd to add somethingBeing admin isn't just booring work all work and no play makes admins dead :D7-Admins must ban banvaders or make sure that they do not play/disrupt the gameplay(this means i can allow you to have some fun with him for example amx_bury but don't forget to slay him when there is the last T or amx_exec to make him suffer)Thoughts? If no one agrees then fine just ban :D
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whats amx_exec? um when ts ask for sd they (the ts)spam too much? Make a rule about spam....
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whats amx_exec?
amx_exec is a command that executes command on playerse.g amx_exec Jason"bind w kill"everytime he press that buton he dies um when ts ask for sd they (the ts)spam too much? Make a rule about spam....
spamming is already not allowerdand P.S: this topic is for admin rules not players :P
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I agree with you modred special in that some admins are afk sometimes.That make me mad..
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Im discussing the rule i said earlier ANY THOUGHTS?!
i was talking about admins leaving exile playing.. like sami... and 2 others..
If it is clear that they are banvaders then OK here is the rule but i wanetd to add somethingBeing admin isn't just booring work all work and no play makes admins dead :D7-Admins must ban banvaders or make sure that they do not play/disrupt the gameplay(this means i can allow you to have some fun with him for example amx_bury but don't forget to slay him when there is the last T or amx_exec to make him suffer)Thoughts? If no one agrees then fine just ban :D
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If we bury and keep them playing then we'd also have to gag since we all know exile has quite the potty mouth
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If we bury and keep them playing then we'd also have to gag since we all know exile has quite the potty mouth
Since when is he ct? :D
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If we bury and keep them playing then we'd also have to gag since we all know exile has quite the potty mouth
Since when is he ct? :D
Lol u need a video that goodmood has posted in his channelah nvm imma give it to youits quite offencive to tashaso tasha dont get mad at melink removed by denizand sorry for posting it here x)
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Or maybe just use bancfg for evaders?
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Or maybe just use bancfg for evaders?
you guys just don't read what i write...I said what about admins have funb instead of just a ban?!Ah screw it
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Interesting fact um...no one said anything wrong...nor anything to add
Hm...added?
We can do the following
Lock this and change the tittle to "Additional rules for admins on jb server" or something shorter...not really in the day to invent something properly..
1 problem though how the heck do i change the tittle again?
@Burningsoul Done mate. You have moderation tools then you click it and something else apear you click on it and you will see "Edit title, Close topic, pin topic, etc..." :D
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