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Recruitment & Justice => Staff Complaints & Misconduct => Resolved Staff Complaints => Topic started by: Pim on September 02, 2012, 02:52:31 pm
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Admin:Smaj Lee
Server:JB
Date & Time: 2-9-2012 13:30 (start with question to monster) 14:30 end
Complaint:
Rules that got broken:
Admin rules:
You should be calm and patient to the players.
You should know the rules of this server. (he doesn't know the rule:
29. If the CT that is commanding says, when I say run to the cage then you go to the cage.
Then don't go to the cage until he says run to the cage. Because at the start he said when I say run.)
You should be friendly and respectful to other players.
You should never use admin powers for your own benefit.
4-Admin's job is to assure that the server rules are applied correctly and to help everyone have fun(special days(he said fcked in admin chat(so he ignored the non swearing so he didn't assure that the swearing rule was applied )
Basic rules:
32. The officer can be an officer for one map only,
unless there are no other options available or the player has been an officer for less than 15min.
35. No selftransfering is allowed to the officer team,
unless there's no admin who can make a vote for new Officers.
T players agrees with each other who will be an Officer and only accepted players can transfer them selves to the Officer team.
(In order to be an Officer, you have to have a good microphone, you need to know rules,
and win the vote that the admin has made or you have been approved by other players.)
Players must not swear
All of those rules have been broken.
Evidence
This is what happened:
I was commanding and i made it a cell day look down on your bed and freeze
after a few guys got killed i said:
when i say Go to the cage everybody can run to the cage
To the cage!
8 terrorists went to the cage and all got killed since i never said go to the cage
then Smaj Lee was bitching to me that i freekilled 8 people like:"you fked 8 people up" (white chat)
so i asked monster who was right (turned out to be me ;)) and monster said to me i should say it to Smaj Lee so he knows next time.
i go back to the server and tell Smaj i was allowed to kill the terrorists and the way he replies is just not tolerable.
this happened after the converence with the rest of the Jb Trials/Monster
Other Evidence (screenshots, demos...):
Only screenshot of the reply on the end not of the rest but that should be findeable in the logs
[IMG]http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/m512/Pim221/HalfLife03.png[/img]
I am not a guy that reports everybody until your bitching to me.
Edit:
now smaj (Also anumidis but not his report) was ct for longer then 15 min and he still transfered himself to ct next map
demo showing he was more then 15 min ct
[url=http://www.mediafire.com/?sjr370eego7w9f6]http://www.mediafire.com/?sjr370eego7w9f6[/url]
screenshot and demo of him being ct next map
[IMG]http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/m512/Pim221/jail_greytown0002.jpg[/img]
[url=http://www.mediafire.com/?tg7by1lsppvu7sn]http://www.mediafire.com/?tg7by1lsppvu7sn[/url]
EDIT 2:
[IMG]http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/m512/Pim221/Naamloos-8.png[/img]
answer to your question:
i am just a regular player
dont act like your a king
To Replica:
as you can see I aint scared to report anyone just wasn't going to report him since i didn't had a problem with him like I do now
Sincerely Pim
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Here we go again.I sad that about cell day because before i was off 3weeks when you sad run to cage you needed to run to the cage without any other warning if you didnt go to cage you die but PIM didnt know that because he was off for more then 5 months and he couldnt know that but he didnt think about that.
Other thing is when server crashed and Mr.Grey restarted server and we sad same cts as last map nobodz sad anything but this guy started complaining and thats it.
Actually this is pretty usseles.
Nicee you forgot to tell the part once you told me that you want more respect because your brother is Arne andyou want admin.Skype has nothing to do about CS but your report.
Skype is skype and i can type there what i desire and what i want and cs is a game where i watch what i say.Grow up plss
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You don't seem to care about anything lol. Just a few minutes ago someone turned on box mode for the terrorists and he starts firing his ak in bursts on a random terrorist.
imo you are not ready to be an admin.
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Here we go again.I sad that about cell day because before i was off 3weeks when you sad run to cage you needed to run to the cage without any other warning if you didnt go to cage you die but PIM didnt know that because he was off for more then 5 months and he couldnt know that but he didnt think about that.
Other thing is when server crashed and Mr.Grey restarted server and we sad same cts as last map nobodz sad anything but this guy started complaining and thats it.
Actually this is pretty usseles.
about the cell day
okay its normal people make mistakes thats the way life is:
the way you react is just not tolerable as an admin you should be the example for everybody:
YOU FKED 8 PEOPLE UP!!!
You dont need to cry to report me
even though the server crashed you were ct for longer then 15 min (around 25) and you are still ct after which is (said by the rules) not allowed
and no this is not useless at all
You will see!
Sincerely, Pim
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Well pim you told me now that i made you wrong about something and that you report me because you mad at me.Whatever made you mad am rly sorry and i apologize about that and plss stop this we were friends once.
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Skype is nothing to do with Ambrosia. What happens in skype is your own responsibility.
Also some admins are confused about trickery therefore Monster should make a main JB admin meeting and clarify what seems cloudy.
About being aggressive in his answers, yes I disapprove that too and I already talked to him that it was unacceptable, he understands that.
Server was being ddossed, that's why I gave godmode to all and made it free fun day since we couldn't play the game. Ct's were in no importance because if server was ddossed there couldn't be any commanding. Also when I restarted server there was 15 minutes left so they could be same cts it is allowed as Sight explained in one topic. If the Ct's are bad they get changed etc. This is a rare case, but that doesn't mean there is a lot of abusing. Maybe my fault was that I left the server shortly after doing things I said above.
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Skype is nothing to do with Ambrosia. What happens in skype is your own responsibility.
Also some admins are confused about trickery therefore Monster should make a main JB admin meeting and clarify what seems cloudy.
About being aggressive in his answers, yes I disapprove that too and I already talked to him that it was unacceptable, he understands that.
Server was being ddossed, that's why I gave godmode to all and made it free fun day since we couldn't play the game. Ct's were in no importance because if server was ddossed there couldn't be any commanding. Also when I restarted server there was 15 minutes left so they could be same cts it is allowed as Sight explained in one topic. If the Ct's are bad they get changed etc. This is a rare case, but that doesn't mean there is a lot of abusing. Maybe my fault was that I left the server shortly after doing things I said above.
Skype is nothing to do with Ambrosia. What happens in skype is your own responsibility.
true yet it displays his behavior
Also some admins are confused about trickery therefore Monster should make a main JB admin meeting and clarify what seems cloudy.
thats why i say people make mistakes thats life
About being aggressive in his answers, yes I disapprove that too and I already talked to him that it was unacceptable, he understands that.
when did you speak with him?
if it was after the converence he is just ignoring it
Server was being ddossed, that's why I gave godmode to all and made it free fun day since we couldn't play the game. Ct's were in no importance because if server was ddossed there couldn't be any commanding. Also when I restarted server there was 15 minutes left so they could be same cts it is allowed as Sight explained in one topic. If the Ct's are bad they get changed etc. This is a rare case, but that doesn't mean there is a lot of abusing. Maybe my fault was that I left the server shortly after doing things I said above.
they did get the 15 min mark in map 1 and yes idd the server got ddos'd and you normal commanding wasn't possible so it doesn't really matter if they did go ct again
shortly after as you can see smaj has his music on. Equal to: server was fine again commanding is possible/freeday was going on
He was ct again
well smaj
well pim you told me now that i made you wrong about something and that you report me because you mad at me.Whatever made you mad am rly sorry and i apologize about that and plss stop this we were friends once.
we were friends indeed yet if you call me a retard, friends isn't possible anymore
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I talked to him now after I saw the report. I believe he will improve.
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well just like a report its not based on thinking its based on proof and believing is not proof enough for me
sincerely, Pim
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The issue here was his attitude towards you nothing else and as I see he apologized to you. Only proof of his behavior changes will only be shown by time. :)
Failed days and CT being twice in a row happens a lot, even I leave someone CT for 2 maps in a row if the Ct's chosen failed.
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The issue here was his attitude towards you nothing else and as I see he apologized to you. Only proof of his behavior changes will only be shown by time. :)
Failed days and CT being twice in a row happens a lot, even I leave someone CT for 2 maps in a row if the Ct's chosen failed.
An admin is an example for the rest of the players and like this your giving a bad example to the rest
by the way there were 22 terrorists
Please dont telle me nobody else could be Ct...
not even a vote was made or something like that
also world isn't like:
HEY MOTHERFUCKER RETARD SUCK MY DICK
2 min later
srry we cool again?
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Well you told me you mad at you and clearly(at least to me)is that you report me because you mad or you dont like me.Now i apologize about my behavior and it will not happen again but you dont need to report because of me ct second map when server crash.Also everytime we ask who want ct you keep saying me and if we didnt put you but (most of time we do)you start lets say crying why you not ct.
Once again i apologize about behavior and the thing i made you mad.
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This is your issue and his, don't bring the fight to forum otherwise I will lock this topic.
I believe he apologized, sometimes people don't think straight.
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Actually I thought after the situation with alinorway and jonathan with the flame on skype emporers decided that if skype/steam logs are related to ambrosia then they would be considered since the conflict is always being taken into ambrosia after. Admins shouldn't flame players on skype especially since it's only because they were reported, that really isn't acceptable to call a member of the community a retard an idiot because they reported you. Imo it should be punished! We can all go on skype/steam to flame people of the community hard but it doesn't mean we should and it should still be considered since this was clearly related to ambrosia..
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Well you told me you mad at you and clearly(at least to me)is that you report me because you mad or you dont like me.Now i apologize about my behavior and it will not happen again but you dont need to report because of me ct second map when server crash.Also everytime we ask who want ct you keep saying me and if we didnt put you but (most of time we do)you start lets say crying why you not ct.
Once again i apologize about behavior and the thing i made you mad.
If i cry about not being Ct gag/if needed even screenshot me but dont talk without evidence please -.-
This is your issue and his, don't bring the fight to forum otherwise I will lock this topic.
I believe he apologized, sometimes people don't think straight.
he apologized but for what reason?
if the first second he says retard/idiot to me and the second second he says sorry
then its not my problem i wish to report him
this actually looks to me like hes begging not to report him and this looks like power hungry
like i said:
in life it doesn't go like
HEY MOTHERFUCKER RETARD SUCK MY ****
2 min later
srry we cool again?
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To set the right pace of the whole "skype being trust-worthy material or not" discussion.
We believe that skype logs can be used as a proof in certain situations. We don't rly care if you come to some random cs server and start swearing f**k I got killed, f**k this /ragequit, but swearing on each other - especially on community members can be taken into the report as reasonable log. Even though it is more of a personal conflict and won't influence the report that much as ingame ss would do.
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I agree with this, but putting skype log in as a main thing is not needed. We cannot force the admin to like someone outside of Ambrosia, although admin should always remember his responsibilities and keep himself calm and fair in all situations, but that only includes Forum and Servers. It wouldn't be a bad idea to have a bit of modification in rules, so that all admins are showing good example in and out of ambrosia towards any Cs player or Ambrosian member.
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Ok ill make sure that my behavior improves and it wont happen anything like that anymore
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SIt isnt a big deal if he is CT for 15 or 25 min when one map is 60+ min. So i dont count that as a problem.
About the rule every1 can make mistakes. Lee talked with ED i explained him the rules as well. So that problem is fixed as well.
The only problem i see is the skype chat. And smaj lee apologised for that so i dont think any action must be taken.
Regards,
Monster
W8ing for high staff to resolve it.
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SIt isnt a big deal if he is CT for 15 or 25 min when one map is 60+ min. So i dont count that as a problem.
About the rule every1 can make mistakes. Lee talked with ED i explained him the rules as well. So that problem is fixed as well.
The only problem i see is the skype chat. And smaj lee apologised for that so i think any action must be taken.
Regards,
Monster
W8ing for high staff to resolve it.
You mean no action must be taken ::)
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Yes i dont see the reason why should any action be taken?
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Smaj Lee go learn JB rules before you apply, me always when its cage day and i go somewhere else i got killed, that's a rule.
you dont say ! when it's cage day, it's CAGE day, you cant go everywhere you want !
go learn the rules before blaming and swearing to people !
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Admin rules:
You should be calm and patient to the players.
You should know the rules of this server. (he doesn't know the rule:
29. If the CT that is commanding says, when I say run to the cage then you go to the cage.
Then don't go to the cage until he says run to the cage. Because at the start he said when I say run.)
You should be friendly and respectful to other players.
You should never use admin powers for your own benefit.
4-Admin's job is to assure that the server rules are applied correctly and to help everyone have fun(special days(he said fcked in admin chat(so he ignored the non swearing so he didn't assure that the swearing rule was applied )
Basic rules:
32. The officer can be an officer for one map only,
unless there are no other options available or the player has been an officer for less than 15min.
35. No selftransfering is allowed to the officer team,
unless there's no admin who can make a vote for new Officers.
T players agrees with each other who will be an Officer and only accepted players can transfer them selves to the Officer team.
(In order to be an Officer, you have to have a good microphone, you need to know rules,
and win the vote that the admin has made or you have been approved by other players.)
Players must not swear
All of those rules have been broken.
Also an apology doesn't mean everything is cool again.
If you say something you should stand behind your words instead of saying sorry and get away with just one word
Same works in real life:
If you kill someone
2 min later you say sorry
It aint cool
Only if your mentally retarded its cool but you will go to a special place
If your mentally retarded you shouldn't be admin though (just covering that you might say you are mentally retarded (your probably not though))
Nicee you forgot to tell the part once you told me that you want more respect because your brother is Arne andyou want admin.Skype has nothing to do about CS but your report.
Skype is skype and i can type there what i desire and what i want and cs is a game where i watch what i say.Grow up plss
Evidence please?
None? Okay thanx
I actually never talk about arne in any situation unless someone asks me if i am his bro
DONT LIE!!!
Stay on topic Please
Sincerely, Pim
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Stay on topic?What is skype then?You reported me for rule breaking not skype
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Stay on topic?What is skype then?You reported me for rule breaking not skype
it wasn't sended to you smaj
was sended to the other guy before me
also skype is valid evidence if its related to Ambrosia
skype just shows that ur behavior is not tolerable
Sincerely, Pim
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From now on when you take a misconduct on skype you will get moderated
- Example : ME
Moving to serious post:
Apparently i still don't understand if this happened recently or is just an extension to adrian's report.
So i'm still wondering if monster cleared our the problems with trial admins
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From now on when you take a misconduct on skype you will get moderated
- Example : ME
Moving to serious post:
Apparently i still don't understand if this happened recently or is just an extension to adrian's report.
So i'm still wondering if monster cleared our the problems with trial admins
all this "evidence" was gathered within an hour after the converence of trial admins + monster
so no extension to adrian
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What ever I will say he will count it as a hate. I have only one thing to say, after the meeting was dome, I was there, we decided to stop the hate and act like a team, so I started talking to him at steam, saying hey Smaj can I talk to you he replied NO. I told him I just want to apologize for what I have done they he said again NO. They he started flaming and blaming me for the reports, and telling me a backstabber
1 more thing as a lot of People complaint about him ignoring the players, I can confirm that. That's all other that that he is fine just too aggressive. Don't say that I hate u coz if u did then that will be a pure hate, I don't hate u.
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First kedo Pim loves evidence and i want to see it.It is true i sad you are backstabber and lier and i sad no.But i have very very good reason.You told me that you want to demo anumidis so he gets demoted.You told other trial admins (at least they sad that on trial admins meeting) that you want to demo other trial admins so they got demoted.And when i sad no he started raging on me and i am pretty sure you called mister NIGGA and you called me retard and you sad you gonna hate all the time and never gonna be friends.I am never gonna be friend with you but in trial admin team am ok with you because we have to be one team.
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Sorry for going off topic but i like smaj lee's answer. You are one team and in one team there are always some kind of misunderstandings. But as you are a team you have to hide all this and act like nothing happened. Also if you dont like each other then just dont argue and stuff but play normally in the server maybe even ignore each other and every thing will be perfect. Ofc you must talk about admin job but when i said admin job i really mean it. For example i hate Arne we are together in the server we dont speak to each other but i ask him is Ezza a banevader and he must just give a simple answer like yes, no or idk and end of discusion. Then again we continue and still ignore each other as we dont have anything to talk about just the admin job.
I hope you understood what i mean.
Regards,
Monster
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Smaj show respect to eachother please cuz u told me in deathrun *Homo*. *You're mother*
I kinda feel bored of this reaction of u please dont do it again.. I gave u a chance and u stopped it so i didn't report u
Anyways ontopic :
It was a misunderstanding i think like monster says
Every1 makes mistakes in days/night.. *kinda confusing*
Take care
Cya
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First kedo Pim loves evidence and i want to see it.It is true i sad you are backstabber and lier and i sad no.But i have very very good reason.You told me that you want to demo anumidis so he gets demoted.You told other trial admins (at least they sad that on trial admins meeting) that you want to demo other trial admins so they got demoted.And when i sad no he started raging on me and i am pretty sure you called mister ****** and you called me retard and you sad you gonna hate all the time and never gonna be friends.I am never gonna be friend with you but in trial admin team am ok with you because we have to be one team.
I never ever called you/mister anything like retard or gayguy or whatever you said after mister, can i have the evidence of this please? If you dont have evidence you shouldn't say it at all.
And actually i like Mister so why should i call him anything? Ask him if i ever flamed at him please?
I actually never report an admin but I think your just not worth it to be admin since you are raging AGAIN.
I do not love evidence otherwise i would have demo'd a LOT more. I recorded all of that WITHIN an hour
I never said i gonna hate all the time, I did say i wont be friends with someone that calls me retard.
Now again... I can see you lie...
Nicee you forgot to tell the part once you told me that you want more respect because your brother is Arne andyou want admin.Skype has nothing to do about CS but your report.
Skype is skype and i can type there what i desire and what i want and cs is a game where i watch what i say.Grow up plss
that was the first time and now is the second time you lie...
Grow up plss
To improve the world start with yourself
Sincerely, Pim
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guys , don't take jailbreak too serious , its just a gaming server nothing more
just start a white page and be friendly to each other , it aint hard
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I think Pretty much thAt jailbreak is aWsome and Nabs ruin fun :'(
And i think moderators should pay attention to other people posting this since is rather offtopic and useless in here. If u want to spread love and cosmopolitanism do it somewhere else.
Now, as monster stated that there shouldn't be any action taken. I think is alright to go with this response and start again on new.
Smaj lee has personal problems, he is admin for a reason. Activity and Fairness, i agree he isn't a perfectionist but nobody in jb is that kind of perfectionist to achieve a personal record of 0 misconducts on any matter. Anybody can erupt of almost everything: Religious,national,Justice,Behavior,past,Future,Hypothesis,Rumors, exclaiming, speculations. Both of u react on hate, ur posts pim are really offensive, that if smaj lee was a Forum Moderator, he would have warned you quite often for a justified disrespect you are calling on. Smaj lee aren't clear too, they orientate on his personal-psychometric dimensions he posses as a Human being. Is just a clean sweep of two haters going it on
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I think Pretty much thAt jailbreak is aWsome and Nabs ruin fun :'(
And i think moderators should pay attention to other people posting this since is rather offtopic and useless in here. If u want to spread love and cosmopolitanism do it somewhere else.
Now, as monster stated that there shouldn't be any action taken. I think is alright to go with this response and start again on new.
Smaj lee has personal problems, he is admin for a reason. Activity and Fairness, i agree he isn't a perfectionist but nobody in jb is that kind of perfectionist to achieve a personal record of 0 misconducts on any matter. Anybody can erupt of almost everything: Religious,national,Justice,Behavior,past,Future,Hypothesis,Rumors, exclaiming, speculations. Both of u react on hate, ur posts pim are really offensive, that if smaj lee was a Forum Moderator, he would have warned you quite often for a justified disrespect you are calling on. Smaj lee aren't clear too, they orientate on his personal-psychometric dimensions he posses as a Human being. Is just a clean sweep of two haters going it on
I wasn't online thank you.
To be solved by high staff,
Locked!