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Title: VIPs
Post by: MonsteR on June 30, 2012, 03:36:33 pm
So guys as i was cleaning the board i have seen 2-3 topics about making ppl VIPs. What i mean by this is some players to have rights to transfer ppl to CT and put them back to T also kick rights. That is all no green chat no admin chat no nothing just kick and transfer rights so that when there is no admin they can save the server from freekillers. Also they wont be fully allowed to use their rights when there is normal admin in the server, unless the admin tells him to or if some1 is swearing they can kick him ofc even is there is an admin they will be like helpers. For example they cant ask who wants to be CT when there is admin also if the admin tells him you can chose the CTs then he can transfer CTs ofc. And admins are allowed to kick/quit/ban them if they break the rules admins are allowed to use all commands on them like they do on the normal members. And if this ppl are breaking the rules too much or abuse their rights they will be demoted.

If you have any other sugestions you can type them. Because i am not sure if they must have only transfer menu or kick menu as well.

Regards,
Monster

PS: All JB admins your opinion is important so plz type it down.
Title: Re: Half Admins
Post by: JF on June 30, 2012, 03:42:29 pm
Moderators then.

I support the moderators idea, it would keep the server clean most of the time.
Title: Re: Half Admins
Post by: Sight on June 30, 2012, 07:19:08 pm
supporting this idea also, trust only trustable people with it!
Title: Re: Half Admins
Post by: redshift' on June 30, 2012, 07:19:42 pm
its a good idea

but too many negative things will happen

but still its just my opinion
Title: Re: Half Admins
Post by: onyzz;; on June 30, 2012, 07:37:28 pm
Ofc it's a great idea, just a BIG doubt... Who?
Title: Re: Half Admins
Post by: Ande on June 30, 2012, 07:53:17 pm
This reminds me of S*N...
Well I'm not JB admin but still I support
Title: Re: Half Admins
Post by: Pringles on June 30, 2012, 07:53:46 pm
good idea but there will be a problem with da rank in forums... a star and a half... (3/2) LoL
Title: Re: Half Admins
Post by: яᴇɢᴀʟᴛᴇʀʀᴏʀ~ on June 30, 2012, 08:26:27 pm
the idea is good but you should only give half admins to trustable player coz as every single person likes to be ct the half admin will just go ct and others wont get a chance. but i life this idea think you should carry it on and listen to others opinions..

Regards
Regalterror..
Title: Re: Half Admins
Post by: redshift' on June 30, 2012, 08:41:12 pm
This reminds me of S*N...
Well I'm not JB admin but still I support

ande u remember  AssassiN  and googer   ,  :DD 

they were half admins in S*N  i mean only kick and @adminchat
Title: Re: Half Admins
Post by: 'PL' on June 30, 2012, 10:21:58 pm
here is an other question:
Are there active admins ?
If there aren't why should we give this idea. Could help the applicants but i presume it won't be really that helpful.
I will support the idea but the server isn't on that level to have these kind of problems as it was before. We have active admins rly 
Title: Re: Half Admins
Post by: Destroy-Sama on June 30, 2012, 10:26:50 pm
it s a good idea, there are some trustworthy persons, and even if admins are active, it's not that bad to give these flags to some active members to help when admins are away
Title: Re: Half Admins
Post by: 'PL' on June 30, 2012, 10:30:58 pm
it s a good idea, there are some trustworthy persons, and even if admins are active, it's not that bad to give these flags to some active members to help when admins are away
Open time15 and see who is first.
I check gametracker like every 5 min if there is an admin when im on other community servers.
Usually im on zombie server gathering ap :D
Title: Re: Half Admins
Post by: Ocelvon on July 01, 2012, 01:48:41 am
First of all answer me this
Are there allot of times where there is no admin online?

Now with that said i think that's a nice idea we can give them to people we trust therefore if you want to do an award "giving" show
I suggest talking to the "judges"(admins or above) to decide that
 
Title: Re: Half Admins
Post by: Eddy Wall-e on July 01, 2012, 02:01:32 am
i support this

but give normaly admins immunity over these half admins then...
Title: Re: Half Admins
Post by: MonsteR on July 01, 2012, 10:24:04 am
Ty for giving your opinion. Also eddy why do you need immunity. For example this admin kicks you and you give a SS to me or some1 from high staff and he will be demoted with no warnings. Or as you can use all commands on him then for example if he starts kicking random payers you can ban him and report him after that he will get demoted and unbanned. ;)

About the rank name in forum they can be Admin helpers, Helpers, Assistants or idk what you can suggest something as well (i dont think half admin is good because they are not half admins they have only 2 commands to do).

Regards,
Monster
Title: Re: Half Admins
Post by: Ocelvon on July 01, 2012, 11:28:14 am
How about VIP?
We could also sell this VIP stats as well for some extra income for the servers
Title: Re: Half Admins
Post by: 'PL' on July 01, 2012, 11:33:55 am
How about VIP?
We could also sell this VIP stats as well for some extra income for the servers
And maybe applications for vips, with these flags as well?
Title: Re: Half Admins
Post by: MonsteR on July 01, 2012, 11:48:08 am
It will be too much work for high staff to accept other applys too and this is JB rank only. JB security (this is the rank)  you like it? :D
Title: Re: Half Admins
Post by: HIP[-]HOP[-]BoY-_^ on July 01, 2012, 12:20:23 pm
this is good i like it but i think it will be better when we put old /votekick
its more easy.

1 players can make /votekick
2 player who made votekick must type reson in chat
3 all players can vote ...
i think this is better no need to make Half Admins
Title: Re: Half Admins
Post by: MonsteR on July 01, 2012, 12:23:56 pm
Actualy i agree with that idea more too. I totaly forgot about /votekick. But the problem is that there were too many bugs in it and it was random kicking so if we can fix this then it is better.
Title: Re: Half Admins
Post by: HIP[-]HOP[-]BoY-_^ on July 01, 2012, 12:27:15 pm
we will try
and i forgot to say that when some1 is kicked by /votekick he is banned for 10 min..
Title: Re: Half Admins
Post by: MonsteR on July 01, 2012, 12:39:29 pm
We had /votekick and /voteban. Also rules are saying that when there is no admin ppl must chose CTs by vote. So why dont we get /votetransfer then chose some playes and the one who wins the vote goes to CT automaticly or something like this. But ofc this commands will be given to trusted members as well.
Title: Re: Half Admins
Post by: SNap on July 01, 2012, 12:58:11 pm
The /votekick access is given only to trusted members so it will be actually the same but the votekick can bug. Its a good idea but do we really need it? Everytime i join there is at least 1 admin :)
Title: Re: Half Admins
Post by: JnaN- GM? on July 01, 2012, 02:15:00 pm
Well i have 5 more days to study, because i have school practise and i have to go to some places . . . Anyway sorry for off-topic..

I think i'm trusted in this community ? I have been here (in old S*N) even before SNap :D (sega si strahoten admin spox ni6to ne namekvam :D )
Title: Re: Half Admins
Post by: Aditya! on July 01, 2012, 02:55:26 pm
Make the rank name : JB Helper
Title: Re: Half Admins
Post by: Mister on July 01, 2012, 03:37:00 pm
Good idea Monster! About votekick and voteban! i dont think that it will help! From my opinion will mess up the server!
Title: Re: Half Admins
Post by: Sight on July 01, 2012, 04:04:00 pm
should i add to this topic that votekick is working perfectly on steam servers and it bugs on nonsteam because it doesnt support cracked steam servers ::)..............................

oh god. this might be 20th time im posting this in my ambrosian life.

just give transfer rights and adminchat rights to 4 people and problem solved, or dont do it at all.
Title: Re: Half Admins
Post by: Alberto on July 01, 2012, 06:53:45 pm
Hello all,
First of all: how will you choose the JB helpers? because when players ask about this, they will want to be one, and this will be a problem.
Second: PLEASE, give thsi rank only to very trustworthy players, because they can transfer/kick the person who they want and abuse about this.
Third: /votekick would can ban a player for at least 5 min, because when we do that, the player join again and self again without problems, and this is annoying.

Thank you :)
Title: Re: Half Admins
Post by: JF on July 01, 2012, 07:05:48 pm
Simplest way to do it is to add it to VIP...
Title: Re: Half Admins
Post by: Weed Farmerr on July 01, 2012, 07:10:40 pm
Hmmm...Why to give half admin rights to trustworthy people and not to go apply for "Admin",I cant understand this.Why to "create" new half admins and not to accept some new admins ?In my opinion no need this "Half Admins".

Moreover we are a few admins in JB server but we are very active so I dont think that we need more help..maybe 1-2 more admins would be great.
Title: Re: Half Admins
Post by: MonsteR on July 01, 2012, 07:15:00 pm
We will make an admin meeting and discus which one will be better. But first of all High staff must agree on this.

And smiley if they abuse it their rights will be removed without a warning.

PS: As i remember we are 10 admins and for now we dont really need more as you said we are all active. So this will be kind of support to us.
Title: Re: Half Admins
Post by: onyzz;; on July 02, 2012, 10:49:19 am
this is good i like it but i think it will be better when we put old /votekick
its more easy.

1 players can make /votekick
2 player who made votekick must type reson in chat
3 all players can vote ...
i think this is better no need to make Half Admins

It's a good idea, but lots of people abuse that command.
Title: Re: Half Admins
Post by: MonsteR on July 02, 2012, 11:24:06 am
Onyz it wont be given to every1 just to some members.
Title: Re: Half Admins
Post by: яᴇɢᴀʟᴛᴇʀʀᴏʀ~ on July 02, 2012, 12:52:03 pm
i also think /votekick will be better than half admins as if no admins online when pplpe sleftransfer the other ct could /votekick them
Title: Re: Half Admins
Post by: Sight on July 02, 2012, 12:54:18 pm
before you reply regal terror please read:

i also think /votekick will be better than half admins as if no admins online when pplpe sleftransfer the other ct could /votekick them
should i add to this topic that votekick is working perfectly on steam servers and it bugs on nonsteam because it doesnt support cracked steam servers ::)..............................

oh god. this might be 20th time im posting this in my ambrosian life.

just give transfer rights and adminchat rights to 4 people and problem solved, or dont do it at all.
Title: Re: Half Admins
Post by: Old Man <3 on July 02, 2012, 07:33:32 pm
i agree with mcain why not make vip things like u can buy it for $5 or something and than they only get kick or transfer rights it also makes a little profit for the server +1
Title: Re: Half Admins
Post by: MonsteR on July 03, 2012, 12:04:46 am
We will see it can be done as well. I will talk with the high staff about it.
Title: Re: Half Admins
Post by: Sight on July 03, 2012, 12:17:49 am
Just do my idea, give vip with kick/transfer rights to trustable people that are very good ct (arnes idea) with good cts i mean not-boring and fun to play while they are ct, we had this before with renegade being the first one but it somehow *poef* dissapeared in the server.

That metod is perfect
Title: Re: Half Admins
Post by: MonsteR on July 03, 2012, 12:21:12 am
Thats what i mean sight kick/transfer rights to some trusted members.
Title: Re: Half Admins
Post by: Rawrplus on July 03, 2012, 09:29:18 am
I think I'd rather have transfering half admins then server kicking innocent people, just because they did not so popular game that only skilled 1/4 of server knows and the noobies will kick him for doing so.
Title: Re: Half Admins
Post by: MonsteR on July 03, 2012, 09:35:18 am
Rawr do you read m8? It will be given to some trusted members so we can be sure they wont abuse it. And ofc if they do they will be demoted with no warnings.
Title: Re: Half Admins
Post by: Rawrplus on July 03, 2012, 09:41:28 am
Im not entirely sure if it's possible to give /votekick rights to only selected people.


And yes I have read it :p
Title: Re: Half Admins
Post by: Sight on July 03, 2012, 09:42:12 am
you can rawrplus, but the problem is that it doesnt work on non-steam servers since it only supports steam
Title: Re: Half Admins
Post by: MonsteR on July 03, 2012, 09:44:34 am
That is why it is better to give them kick and transfer rights. Not votekick
Title: Re: Half Admins
Post by: Rawrplus on July 03, 2012, 09:49:21 am
you can rawrplus, but the problem is that it doesnt work on non-steam servers since it only supports steam

Yeah I knew something was wrong with that. Couldn't recall what. Thanks for reminding.


__

Monster yeah, That's the best idea. I though about kick rights you were still on about "the /votekick".

If by kick and transfer rights. I'm okay with that and find it actually as a superb idea. Will most likely start this system once our servers are back up running.
Title: Re: Half Admins
Post by: MonsteR on July 03, 2012, 10:04:40 am
I talked with Casper he liked the idea i will talk with the other high staff when i see them online then we can accept the idea.
Title: Re: Half Admins
Post by: Rawrplus on July 03, 2012, 10:08:34 am
Just post it in the high staff board so you can see other people's opinion too. Though Im pretty sure that everyone will agree with this.
Title: Re: Half Admins
Post by: 'PL' on July 03, 2012, 10:14:22 am
A slide offtopic question:
What happen with the previous topics about sheriffs, watchers, my suggestion and the rest 6 topics in the jb section? (It was the same issue), i remember some guys were against it :(
Title: Re: Half Admins
Post by: Rawrplus on July 03, 2012, 10:15:31 am
A slide offtopic question:
What happen with the previous topics about sheriffs, watchers, my suggestion and the rest 6 topics in the jb section? (It was the same issue), i remember some guys were against it :(

Times are changing.

That's what happened :)
Title: Re: Half Admins
Post by: MonsteR on July 03, 2012, 10:20:05 am
They were trashed and i made one topic for all. And even if there were some ppl agains they werent that many and also at the moment all the admins agree on this idea as i see so it will be done just w8ing for the final answer. ;)

Regards,
Monster
Title: Re: Half Admins
Post by: Sight on July 04, 2012, 12:38:50 am
i think that amxsuper needs to be edited first because you need to give them this access(minimum):

"ipu"

i = all adminchats and stuff.
p = amx_transfer but it will give them access to this also:
Quote
amx_glow - ADMIN_LEVEL_D, "<nick, #userid, authid, or @team/@all> <color> (or) <rrr> <ggg> <bbb> <aaa> -- lasts 1 round")
amx_glow2 - ADMIN_LEVEL_D, "<nick, #userid, authid, or @team/@all> <color> (or) <rrr> <ggg> <bbb> <aaa> -- lasts forever")
amx_glowcolors - ADMIN_LEVEL_D, "shows a list of colors for amx_glow and amx_glow2")
amx_badaim - ADMIN_LEVEL_D,"<player> <On/off or length of time: 1|0|time> <Save?: 1|0>: Turn on/off bad aim on a player.")
amx_transfer - ADMIN_LEVEL_D,"- <name> <CT/T/Spec> Transfers that player to the specified team")
amx_team - ADMIN_LEVEL_D,"- <name> <CT/T/Spec> Transfers that player to the specified team")
amx_swap - ADMIN_LEVEL_D,"- <name 1> <name 2> Swaps two players with eachother")
amx_teamswap - ADMIN_LEVEL_D,"- Swaps two teams with eachother")
amx_lock - ADMIN_LEVEL_D,"- <CT/T/Auto/Spec> - Locks selected team")
amx_unlock - ADMIN_LEVEL_D,"- <CT/T/Auto/Spec> - Unlocks selected team")
which i doubt monster wants :P, just a simple edit of amx super should do ask stevko for it :D
u = menu access(amxmodmenu)

also they dont show up in "/admins" which is great. (if im correct)

Title: Re: Half Admins
Post by: MonsteR on July 04, 2012, 09:15:02 am
Ty sight ;) Also stevko sorry for gving you some extra work i hope you dont hate me :D
Title: Re: Half Admins
Post by: Rawrplus on July 04, 2012, 09:33:12 am
Ty sight ;) Also stevko sorry for gving you some extra work i hope you dont hate me :D

He secretly does and cuts his wrists for you.  8)
Title: Re: Half Admins
Post by: MonsteR on July 04, 2012, 09:47:38 am
Rawr i think you are a bit too happy maybe because you want to do the work for stevko so he can relax? :D
Title: Re: Half Admins
Post by: Rawrplus on July 04, 2012, 09:50:23 am
Well none of us (instead of Casper) can currently connect to FTP so... You have to wait.
Title: Re: Half Admins
Post by: Stevko on July 04, 2012, 10:14:55 am
Actually Rawr, i already can. And Monster, its ok. I will do it asap.
Title: Re: Half Admins
Post by: Colombia on July 04, 2012, 10:52:05 am
can someone ban monster for this i dea?  ( hahaha :P)
Title: Re: Half Admins
Post by: Sight on July 04, 2012, 10:54:05 am
Quote
   register_concmd("amx_glow", "cmd_glow", ADMIN_LEVEL_C, "<nick, #userid, authid, or @team/@all> <color> (or) <rrr> <ggg> <bbb> <aaa> -- lasts 1 round")
   register_concmd("amx_glow2", "cmd_glow", ADMIN_LEVEL_C, "<nick, #userid, authid, or @team/@all> <color> (or)  <rrr> <ggg> <bbb> <aaa> -- lasts forever")
   register_concmd("amx_glowcolors", "cmd_glowcolors", ADMIN_LEVEL_C, "shows a list of colors for amx_glow and amx_glow2")
   register_concmd("amx_badaim","bad_aim",ADMIN_LEVEL_C,"<player> <On/off or length of time: 1|0|time> <Save?: 1|0>: Turn on/off bad aim on a player.")
   register_concmd("amx_transfer", "cmd_transfer", ADMIN_LEVEL_D,"- <name> <CT/T/Spec> Transfers that player to the specified team")
   register_concmd("amx_team", "cmd_transfer", ADMIN_LEVEL_C,"- <name> <CT/T/Spec> Transfers that player to the specified team")
   register_concmd("amx_swap", "cmd_swap", ADMIN_LEVEL_D,"- <name 1> <name 2> Swaps two players with eachother")
   register_concmd("amx_teamswap", "cmd_teamswap", ADMIN_LEVEL_C,"- Swaps two teams with eachother")
   register_concmd("amx_lock", "admin_lock", ADMIN_LEVEL_C,"- <CT/T/Auto/Spec> - Locks selected team")
   register_concmd("amx_unlock", "admin_unlock", ADMIN_LEVEL_C,"- <CT/T/Auto/Spec> - Unlocks selected team")

Sorted already :P
Title: Re: Half Admins
Post by: Rawrplus on July 04, 2012, 11:28:22 am
Actually Rawr, i already can. And Monster, its ok. I will do it asap.

Oh that's why sittign silently laughing his ass off during the admin meeting when everyone said they can't acess FTP.

Bad boy stevko.
Title: Re: Half Admins
Post by: Stevko on July 04, 2012, 11:42:09 am
I dont remember in meeting anything about FTP :D I dont remember if it was before meeting or after meeting, but casper or ezza gave me new port.
Title: Re: Half Admins
Post by: 'PL' on July 04, 2012, 11:46:24 am
One more question:
Can trial admins use rights on these half admins if they do anything opposite of the jb rules?
How do monster would like we admins to behave with these guys
1. Over-Them
2. Same as them
3. As vips
4. Ignoring them?
Title: Re: Half Admins
Post by: Rawrplus on July 04, 2012, 12:17:59 pm
Pretty good question.

I think yes they should be, though to make it more reasonable we should probobly change title from Half Admins to something else.

Maybe JB Veteran or?
Title: Re: Half Admins
Post by: MonsteR on July 04, 2012, 08:48:46 pm
What is wrong with you guys lol? At least read the first post before posting yourself ;)
Title: Re: Half Admins
Post by: Rawrplus on July 04, 2012, 08:59:16 pm
You guys are retarded? At least read the first post before posting yourself ;)

My bad forgot about that part.

PS : Would format it little bit other way because, I know you and I know how you ment it with humor but some people might find  "are you retarded" offensive.
Title: Re: Half Admins
Post by: MonsteR on July 04, 2012, 09:09:00 pm
Sorry about that but i know you and replica have sence of humor as well that is why i used that phrase. Because i saw that only you and him posted stuff about the rights that i was i said " are you retarded " :)  But ok i apologize for it and i am changing it with something else ;)  It wont repeat again.

Regards,
Monster
Title: Re: Half Admins
Post by: Ed on July 04, 2012, 09:12:27 pm
I found it offensive, now now where is my buttons!!!!!! :D

JB veteran sounds good, but maybe JB Admin Assistant?
Title: Re: Half Admins
Post by: MonsteR on July 04, 2012, 09:34:11 pm
Both ideas are really nice but i like JB Admin Assistant better. Do you agree with me because we need to think of a name and we dont have much time left. :)
Title: Re: Half Admins
Post by: Alberto on July 11, 2012, 09:35:10 pm
in resume , what was the decision with this?
Title: Re: Half Admins
Post by: Ocelvon on July 11, 2012, 09:36:27 pm
and we dont have much time left. :)
Are you going to die?  ???
Title: Re: Half Admins
Post by: Sight on July 11, 2012, 09:38:43 pm
this is currently fully working in the jailbreak servers, please note normal admins will have less flags but their access remains the same!
Title: Re: Half Admins
Post by: Mr-aNumiDiS on July 11, 2012, 10:31:29 pm
so how you guys gonna choose these almighty "trusted" people?
Title: Re: Half Admins
Post by: 'PL' on July 11, 2012, 10:37:00 pm
this is currently fully working in the jailbreak servers, please note normal admins will have less flags but their access remains the same!
Could you have chosen a different flag :/
Now i have to transfer selfers with console D:
However it works tbh
Title: Re: Half Admins
Post by: Sight on July 11, 2012, 11:37:50 pm
tomorrow it will be working again amx_transfer.
Title: Re: Half Admins
Post by: MonsteR on July 11, 2012, 11:40:05 pm
- They are called VIPs not half admins.
- I will chose the trusted guys and i will use the same rules as we use on the admin applys. Activity, behavior, knowing rules, commanding etc.
- Admins can use all commands on the VIPs if they break the rules but VIPs are not allowed to use commands on Admins.
- Vips must follow the admin rules which means they are not allowed to abuse their rights if they do they will be demoted.
- If you want to be VIP you can send me a PM so i can know who wants this rank and who doesnt as you dont have to make applys.
- Soon you will be able to buy VIPs for 2 eauro.

I think i was clear enough.

Regards,
Monster

Topic Locked
Title: Re: VIPs
Post by: MonsteR on August 25, 2012, 10:24:44 am
Moved to archive