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Title: Unban Request - uG Fry - by admin Auto Ban - DR Server
Post by: Fry on July 07, 2018, 02:59:38 pm

Your Name in-game:   uG Fry

Steam ID:   STEAM_0:1 :197945052

Reason:     Vermillion ? Whatever is that

Date & Time:      14:40 - 07/07/2018

Admin:     Auto Ban

Server/Forum:      Dust2 Only Server

Have you been banned before:    NO.

Screenshot URL (Use tinypic.com):   https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/938321660231900111/9250DCF60F2536B391E886312F0D31EFDD4C60D6/

Other:    Alright, this was deffinitely not the first time i got banned because of this stupid anti-cheat program, I got banned once because i had too many aliases on my cfg,  i got banned for "Bhop script" because my FPS was high and i kept jumping fast, I got banned for "Heiper Flag" or whatever..


By the way, I got banned in Death Run not DD2, I couldn't find the Server in the scroll box.

Title: Re: Unban Request - uG Fry - by admin Auto Ban - DR Server
Post by: silex™ on July 07, 2018, 10:57:07 pm
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Comments: You got banned by an anti cheat plugin, vermillion is a multihack, you better admit before making it complicated.

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Title: Re: Unban Request - uG Fry - by admin Auto Ban - DR Server
Post by: Fry on July 07, 2018, 11:26:13 pm
Admit ? Multihack ? i have been playing for 3 days now, I never got banned, It happens to me a lot, I think its due to my CFG ?


I did not use any cheats, But if you believe that the Anti-Cheat plugin is more honest than a human then, Go ahead and refuse my unban appeal :)
Title: Re: Unban Request - uG Fry - by admin Auto Ban - DR Server
Post by: Red Wolf on July 07, 2018, 11:33:59 pm
Admit ? Multihack ? i have been playing for 3 days now, I never got banned, It happens to me a lot, I think its due to my CFG ?


I did not use any cheats, But if you believe that the Anti-Cheat plugin is more honest than a human then, Go ahead and refuse my unban appeal :)
since this is not an admin ban, and its on dr id like @D00M to tell us a bit more about this.
Title: Re: Unban Request - uG Fry - by admin Auto Ban - DR Server
Post by: D00M on July 08, 2018, 12:09:42 am
The autoban comes after checking other peoples .dll files, for example in this case Vermillion is a multihack which for it to work you will have to put vermillion.dll or vermillion_free.dll to cstrike folder, otherwise it could not detect it.

The 1 week ban is standard as to give players a chance to delete the .dll and come back as legit.

Admitting it is not a big problem, you will not get perm banned, you will only if you keep the hack.
Title: Re: Unban Request - uG Fry - by admin Auto Ban - DR Server
Post by: SilverQuick on July 08, 2018, 01:44:01 am
Admit ? Multihack ? i have been playing for 3 days now, I never got banned, It happens to me a lot, I think its due to my CFG ?


I did not use any cheats, But if you believe that the Anti-Cheat plugin is more honest than a human then, Go ahead and refuse my unban appeal :)
Actually, you have been playing on DD2 server and the reason why you didn't get ban it's because there is no anti cheat plugin in it, but once you connected to DR (I suppose it was for the first time since your come back) the anti cheat plugin detected Vermillion in your cstrike folder and therefore banned you.
Title: Re: Unban Request - uG Fry - by admin Auto Ban - DR Server
Post by: silex™ on July 08, 2018, 09:22:12 am
Well @D00M its your responsibility or your choice to give people chances to remove their cheat and play again in the server, but since this guy made an admin application in DD2 server can't let this go that easy, coz im unban panel mod and i don't tolerate cheat.
Title: Re: Unban Request - uG Fry - by admin Auto Ban - DR Server
Post by: koll0z on July 08, 2018, 10:19:11 am
Well @D00M its your responsibility or your choice to give people chances to remove their cheat and play again in the server, but since this guy made an admin application in DD2 server can't let this go that easy, coz im unban panel mod and i don't tolerate cheat.

In some communities where I was Demo Reviewer (DRT) in the past, in such cases (anti cheat ban), I had the HLTV to find out if the anti-cheat system didn't make a mistake by banning people, and believe me, I saw a bunch of wrong  bans from this system. We can't be sure if Fry cheated, especially because this server is new, DR could have a small problem (like all new servers)
And besides, I strongly doubt that he could used a hack while he wants to be admin in DD2 and that he wants to manage a Basebuilder server, it will be very badly seen for him.

Regards,
koll0z

Title: Re: Unban Request - uG Fry - by admin Auto Ban - DR Server
Post by: D00M on July 08, 2018, 11:16:57 am
In some communities where I was Demo Reviewer (DRT) in the past, in such cases (anti cheat ban), I had the HLTV to find out if the anti-cheat system didn't make a mistake by banning people, and believe me, I saw a bunch of wrong  bans from this system. We can't be sure if Fry cheated, especially because this server is new, DR could have a small problem (like all new servers)
And besides, I strongly doubt that he could used a hack while he wants to be admin in DD2 and that he wants to manage a Basebuilder server, it will be very badly seen for him.

Regards,
koll0z


Trust me fam, this is not in wrong. It checks before joining the server of the .dll files md5 hash.

And Im pretty sure in your last communities where u were DRT, doesnt use a anticheat like this, how do I know? I know because you said u had HLTV to find out if the anti-cheat system worked, well in dr you even could not use hltv, because the hack is detected before connecting.
Title: Re: Unban Request - uG Fry - by admin Auto Ban - DR Server
Post by: Fry on July 08, 2018, 11:35:28 am
Actually, you have been playing on DD2 server and the reason why you didn't get ban it's because there is no anti cheat plugin in it, but once you connected to DR (I suppose it was for the first time since your come back) the anti cheat plugin detected Vermillion in your cstrike folder and therefore banned you.

I don't know why you standing against me at all times ever since 2013, But i guess its just how you are :P

Anyways, If DD2 didn't have an Anti Cheat, Why would i be banned in DD2 too ? (I was banned by AMX bans, AMX bans are connected to Anti Cheat? I'm really confused)

As i said, I usually get banned by Anti Cheat, It is my fault really since i keep jumping from a CFG to another, Sometimes even Legit aim CFGs just to improve my aim a bit, Nothing big tbh as CFGs can't make you Auto Aim in anyhow.

I don't personally see why i should cheat on DR (??), I did a research on "Vermillion", Its Simply an Aimbot, (Why would i need an Aimbot on Deathrun?),

Dear @D00M , With all due respect, But you are wrong, The Anti Cheat doesn't only check DLL files but also injected programs, CSTRIKE folder(s), Even suspecious background programs.
Title: Re: Unban Request - uG Fry - by admin Auto Ban - DR Server
Post by: koll0z on July 08, 2018, 11:37:23 am
Trust me fam, this is not in wrong. It checks before joining the server of the .dll files md5 hash.

And Im pretty sure in your last communities where u were DRT, doesnt use a anticheat like this, how do I know? I know because you said u had HLTV to find out if the anti-cheat system worked, well in dr you even could not use hltv, because the hack is detected before connecting.

HLTV was also used when hackers  did an unban appeal, so the admins hadn't to record hackers, and the hackers had like 1 week to do an unban appeal (after 1 week, the HLTV demo will be gone)
Title: Re: Unban Request - uG Fry - by admin Auto Ban - DR Server
Post by: D00M on July 08, 2018, 11:50:52 am
I don't know why you standing against me at all times ever since 2013, But i guess its just how you are :P

Anyways, If DD2 didn't have an Anti Cheat, Why would i be banned in DD2 too ? (I was banned by AMX bans, AMX bans are connected to Anti Cheat? I'm really confused)

As i said, I usually get banned by Anti Cheat, It is my fault really since i keep jumping from a CFG to another, Sometimes even Legit aim CFGs just to improve my aim a bit, Nothing big tbh as CFGs can't make you Auto Aim in anyhow.

I don't personally see why i should cheat on DR (??), I did a research on "Vermillion", Its Simply an Aimbot, (Why would i need an Aimbot on Deathrun?),

Dear @D00M , With all due respect, But you are wrong, The Anti Cheat doesn't only check DLL files but also injected programs, CSTRIKE folder(s), Even suspecious background programs.

The anticheat doesnt have that kind of problems, the anticheat detects injected .dll from cstrike folder or not.

I'm not against you at all.

Configs do not trigger the anticheat, configs are configs, you cant gain  a player advantage using a cfg.

DD2 and dr has amxbans which connects both of their bans together, you most likely joined the dr server and got banned.
Title: Re: Unban Request - uG Fry - by admin Auto Ban - DR Server
Post by: Fry on July 08, 2018, 11:58:18 am
http://www.wargods.ro/wcd/report.php?id=1362383

Right.., Anti Bans never ban for cfgs....

Anyways, I ran out of arguments, Waiting for your decision.
Title: Re: Unban Request - uG Fry - by admin Auto Ban - DR Server
Post by: D00M on July 08, 2018, 12:11:09 pm
http://www.wargods.ro/wcd/report.php?id=1362383

Right.., Anti Bans never ban for cfgs....

Anyways, I ran out of arguments, Waiting for your decision.

if the cfg name is aim.cfg of course it might think it is a config file for the cheat, but you didnt get banned for aim.cfg, you got banned of vermillion.

I don't see a point making a cfg file named aim.cfg, when you can directly insert it to your own configs Instead of execing aim.cfg

Also the reason also why it detected is that you had 47 aliases in your aim.cfg back then whenever that record was made.
Title: Re: Unban Request - uG Fry - by admin Auto Ban - DR Server
Post by: Andrew` on July 08, 2018, 01:07:43 pm
I will never be with the side that believes any anti-cheat plugins for a 1999 game are totally accurate, many of those have been proven to give false-positives, what we could've done to be totally sure was not explain to him how the anti-cheat works and ask to check his CS folder and the date it was last editted.

Currently I cannot believe this case is 100% accurate against Fry. There is always the benefit of the doubt, even the brand new VAR in the World Cup is considered 99.3% accurate, let alone a plugin for a very, very old game.
Title: Re: Unban Request - uG Fry - by admin Auto Ban - DR Server
Post by: D00M on July 08, 2018, 01:16:43 pm
I will never be with the side that believes any anti-cheat plugins for a 1999 game are totally accurate, many of those have been proven to give false-positives, what we could've done to be totally sure was not explain to him how the anti-cheat works and ask to check his CS folder and the date it was last editted.

Currently I cannot believe this case is 100% accurate against Fry. There is always the benefit of the doubt, even the brand new VAR in the World Cup is considered 99.3% accurate, let alone a plugin for a very, very old game.

Well you can't detect something that is not there.
Title: Re: Unban Request - uG Fry - by admin Auto Ban - DR Server
Post by: koll0z on July 08, 2018, 02:27:47 pm
We can't be 100% sure that the anti cheat system is always right, and here is the reason of the admin rank.
Title: Re: Unban Request - uG Fry - by admin Auto Ban - DR Server
Post by: Fry on July 08, 2018, 02:35:28 pm
Mister @D00M i do not think you know what Undercloacked is really saying, Now i need you to focus with me.

You yourself said that the cheat can ban anyone just for reading the word "aim" on that certain person's CFG, If the anti cheat system was so smart, It would've known that CFGs can't be called Hacks as they are not considered advantegeous, Lets say i had a cfg that shared common commands with "Vermillion", Wouldn't the Anti Cheat be confused and ban me for that ?

I do not think that you have been reading this thread carefully, When i was referring to SQ and said you have been standing AGAINST ME IN 2013, i was referring to SQ as i haven't known u in 2013, When you said that sharing that scan was unnecessary you forgot that you were the one who said the Anti Cheat was accurate and could not misban someone for just having too many aliases on their cfg, I was merely showing a proof there.

Thank you for your time.
Title: Re: Unban Request - uG Fry - by admin Auto Ban - DR Server
Post by: D00M on July 08, 2018, 03:04:10 pm
Mister @D00M i do not think you know what Undercloacked is really saying, Now i need you to focus with me.

You yourself said that the cheat can ban anyone just for reading the word "aim" on that certain person's CFG, If the anti cheat system was so smart, It would've known that CFGs can't be called Hacks as they are not considered advantegeous, Lets say i had a cfg that shared common commands with "Vermillion", Wouldn't the Anti Cheat be confused and ban me for that ?

I do not think that you have been reading this thread carefully, When i was referring to SQ and said you have been standing AGAINST ME IN 2013, i was referring to SQ as i haven't known u in 2013, When you said that sharing that scan was unnecessary you forgot that you were the one who said the Anti Cheat was accurate and could not misban someone for just having too many aliases on their cfg, I was merely showing a proof there.

Thank you for your time.

Mister Fry, last time I checked we are not talking about .cfg files. In that department yes the antihack can detect falsely sometimes on .cfg files, if someone is stupid enough to put config files same name as the hacks .cfg or .ini file.

In this topic you got banned because you had else vermillion.dll or vermillion_free.dll injected in your cstrike. It checks by md5 hash it is trully the vermillion and bans you.

Kindly notice that .dll files are not same as .cfg files

Dll is a library that contains code and data that can be used on programs, in this case the dll is coded to be a hacking library, in whichever its injected in cstrike, you will get benefits that other people do not, which is unfair and quite bannable.

I hope you understand now, I'll let the unban panel decide from this on.

Good luck,
D00M
Title: Re: Unban Request - uG Fry - by admin Auto Ban - DR Server
Post by: Fry on July 08, 2018, 03:22:54 pm
Fair enough then, I'll just go ahead and post SS of my Half-Life and CSTRIKE folders.

(https://i.imgur.com/ygqRGYi.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/GnlXe6i.png)

And for those who noticed that my CSTRIKE has been modified today, Here is something for you:

(https://i.imgur.com/JZKp36E.png)
Title: Re: Unban Request - uG Fry - by admin Auto Ban - DR Server
Post by: silex™ on July 08, 2018, 04:25:40 pm
Most undetected cheats delete the cheat files in order not to get caught, posting those ss wont do you good.
Title: Re: Unban Request - uG Fry - by admin Auto Ban - DR Server
Post by: Andrew` on July 08, 2018, 07:01:08 pm
Most undetected cheats delete the cheat files in order not to get caught, posting those ss wont do you good.
We know it's Vermilion, so we can easily test that.
Title: Re: Unban Request - uG Fry - by admin Auto Ban - DR Server
Post by: Fry on July 08, 2018, 08:00:42 pm
Most undetected cheats delete the cheat files in order not to get caught, posting those ss wont do you good.

If i deleted/modified/copied any thing inside "Half Life Folder" the date would be changed.....

Thats the whole point of making ScreenShots lol.
Title: Re: Unban Request - uG Fry - by admin Auto Ban - DR Server
Post by: silex™ on July 08, 2018, 11:12:18 pm
I suggest you admit that you used a cheat, it's your last chance.
Title: Re: Unban Request - uG Fry - by admin Auto Ban - DR Server
Post by: D00M on July 08, 2018, 11:16:57 pm
If i deleted/modified/copied any thing inside "Half Life Folder" the date would be changed.....

Thats the whole point of making ScreenShots lol.
but you edited at the 8.7 the cstrike file, you claim it to be a demo file, but what stops you deleting the .dll too? or before the demo deleting the .dll?
Title: Re: Unban Request - uG Fry - by admin Auto Ban - DR Server
Post by: silex™ on July 09, 2018, 10:24:30 pm
Denied