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Recruitment & Justice => Unban Requests Archive => Unban Requests => Unbanned => Topic started by: A1mer.cn on March 05, 2017, 06:50:46 pm

Title: Unban Request - A1mer.cn - by admin Korne - Dust2 Only Server
Post by: A1mer.cn on March 05, 2017, 06:50:46 pm

Your Name in-game:   A1mer.cn

Steam ID:   STEAM_0:0:85714977

Reason:     Aimbot

Date & Time:      4th March 11pm around

Admin:     Korne

Server/Forum:      Dust2 Only Server

Have you been banned before:    Too many times in this server by various admins

Screenshot URL (Use tinypic.com):   https://ibb.co/i16SBF
https://ibb.co/dE4ErF
https://ibb.co/mCmG5a

Other:    Having been playing in the server for over 5 years now, I feel the server level is going down - fulfilled by too many high pingers, whilst less and less good players playing at the same time.

Some admins require self-improvement in terms of their CS skills, so to separate real cheats and occasionally pop up good players.

Best regards,
A1mer.cn

Title: Re: Unban Request - A1mer.cn - by admin Korne - Dust2 Only Server
Post by: Korne on March 05, 2017, 07:03:01 pm
http://www.filehosting.org/file/details/646677/steam_0_0_85714977_1488668251.dem there is the your demo short but for my decision enought, if i'm wrong, sorry then.
Title: Re: Unban Request - A1mer.cn - by admin Korne - Dust2 Only Server
Post by: Korne on March 05, 2017, 07:21:53 pm
https://www.mediafire.com/?bnym4tu08abqq2h same demo another website
Title: Re: Unban Request - A1mer.cn - by admin Korne - Dust2 Only Server
Post by: Frendy on March 05, 2017, 07:32:00 pm
From what i can see nothing in this demo suggest aimbot, some quick reactions maybe.
It might have been toggeling you saw, but this demo does not have the sufficient evidence.

Please wait for someone from the unban panelist to come deal with you case.

Frendy
Title: Re: Unban Request - A1mer.cn - by admin Korne - Dust2 Only Server
Post by: Korne on March 05, 2017, 07:45:34 pm
let hear more opinions, if its first reaction in b plant so my bad ;)
Title: Re: Unban Request - A1mer.cn - by admin Korne - Dust2 Only Server
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Title: Re: Unban Request - A1mer.cn - by admin Korne - Dust2 Only Server
Post by: Max Breaker on March 05, 2017, 08:30:57 pm
Forbidden SKINS (red / blue avatars)
Title: Re: Unban Request - A1mer.cn - by admin Korne - Dust2 Only Server
Post by: java LADY on March 05, 2017, 08:36:34 pm
Unbanned

RE - BANNED ~RON
Title: Re: Unban Request - A1mer.cn - by admin Korne - Dust2 Only Server
Post by: ~RoN on March 06, 2017, 04:39:59 am
This case is re opened due to the screenshots. Those skinks gives you,  totally a big advantage this is not allowed. Everything what gives you an advantage its cheating. Those skins are not allowed in our server.

Moved back to UNBAN REQUEST BOARD + RE BANNNED until the case is solved.


I would like to hear something from your side Aimer an explanation if possible about it.
Title: Re: Unban Request - A1mer.cn - by admin Korne - Dust2 Only Server
Post by: Gandalf The Stinky on March 06, 2017, 01:03:02 pm
i know i should not be posting here but how do the skins give an advantage? because you see brighter colors? i think thats not a reason to keep someone perm banned
Title: Re: Unban Request - A1mer.cn - by admin Korne - Dust2 Only Server
Post by: SilverQuick on March 06, 2017, 01:23:24 pm
i know i should not be posting here but how do the skins give an advantage? because you see brighter colors? i think thats not a reason to keep someone perm banned
Not only brighter and it allows you to see more precisely especially in those dark sides of the map, but it makes you recognize your opponent easily which is considered as an unfair advantage or why would the one use them if he doesn't find them interesting and advantageous? that's the point.
Title: Re: Unban Request - A1mer.cn - by admin Korne - Dust2 Only Server
Post by: Hajrulla on March 06, 2017, 01:42:53 pm
Then force the server to fit with the default models and kick players who use different models. In the demo he looks clear!
 Is it considered cheating if I use minmodels and artic as a skin?  In my opinion, no. The game has its own ways but you decide. But being banned permamently for such a reason, not valid. 1.6 has too many flaws
Title: Re: Unban Request - A1mer.cn - by admin Korne - Dust2 Only Server
Post by: ~RoN on March 06, 2017, 03:28:39 pm
Then force the server to fit with the default models and kick players who use different models. In the demo he looks clear!
 Is it considered cheating if I use minmodels and artic as a skin?  In my opinion, no. The game has its own ways but you decide. But being banned permamently for such a reason, not valid. 1.6 has too many flaws
It is considered as cheating its an asset wich gives you advantage to see the terroriste faster then anybody else. Everything what gives you advantage is cheating. Not to consider people who use a crochair on their AWP or people who script or wallhack or people who use privat cheats its an asset wich is a big advantage. The game has its own ways like you said. The game was made like that it should stay like that specially in classic servers. I would understand in game mod servers but not classic. And as i am aware i still didn't take my decision about the time he will serve or he will not so don't go so fast to conclusions.

RoN
Title: Re: Unban Request - A1mer.cn - by admin Korne - Dust2 Only Server
Post by: Korne on March 06, 2017, 04:10:50 pm
Exactly
Title: Re: Unban Request - A1mer.cn - by admin Korne - Dust2 Only Server
Post by: D3Y!!S on March 07, 2017, 06:06:14 am
these models  gives you advantage to see the enemy faster and your reaction time will be less. so it an unfair advantage and considered as cheating
Title: Re: Unban Request - A1mer.cn - by admin Korne - Dust2 Only Server
Post by: silex™ on March 07, 2017, 06:47:57 am
Those skins give you an advantage in may ways, you can't deny that, ofc you can ban someone perm, coz the guy is using illegal content in order to have an advantage over others, whats the point of using them then, to get a handsome elite? Ofc not.
Title: Re: Unban Request - A1mer.cn - by admin Korne - Dust2 Only Server
Post by: RAMBATEN on March 07, 2017, 09:02:06 am
Then force the server to fit with the default models and kick players who use different models. In the demo he looks clear!
 Is it considered cheating if I use minmodels and artic as a skin?  In my opinion, no. The game has its own ways but you decide. But being banned permamently for such a reason, not valid. 1.6 has too many flaws

It's very valid reason to keep him banned. If you use customized skins like ESL..etc..
Title: Re: Unban Request - A1mer.cn - by admin Korne - Dust2 Only Server
Post by: Hajrulla on March 07, 2017, 02:56:00 pm
So if I gstrafe or bhop, that gives me an advantage too, speed. And I can do it with 100 fps only, but does that count as cheating too? Nope. For some of you, you may see it as cheating but in my opinion it's skills and moddels are a different case but still I'd love to hear others but with valid reasons or points, not just keep him banned because it's an advantage. Lol
Title: Re: Unban Request - A1mer.cn - by admin Korne - Dust2 Only Server
Post by: groentje on March 07, 2017, 04:14:49 pm
How can this guy know if these models are not allowed in ambrosia. ::) And believe me, this guy is still a beast without the models.
A perm ban is wayy too harsh, maybe just give him a warning or something since theres nothing written bout illegal models in the dd2 rules.
Title: Re: Unban Request - A1mer.cn - by admin Korne - Dust2 Only Server
Post by: SilverQuick on March 07, 2017, 04:32:40 pm
How can this guy know if these models are not allowed in ambrosia. ::) And believe me, this guy is still a beast without the models.
A perm ban is wayy too harsh, maybe just give him a warning or something since theres nothing written bout illegal models in the dd2 rules.
Actually, there is something written about not trying to use any kind of "modifications" that gives the one an unfair advantage over the others and that includes models as well, or what else could be referring to modifications if it wasn't for models? those are DD2 Server rules btw.
Title: Re: Unban Request - A1mer.cn - by admin Korne - Dust2 Only Server
Post by: A1mer.cn on March 09, 2017, 12:22:55 am
Guys,

I was trying to enter the DD2 server for a quick fun, and found myself being banned again therefore found a way here.
I feel surprised to see the argument that I tried to cheat with an ESL skin. Just to be clear, I use these skin with no intention of taking advantages over enemies, it was for fun only - in fact it doesn't matter whatever skin is used for me.
In case you are interested to know how to see people better in dark, I always adjust the desktop color with gamma 1.31, and brightness 60% while playing cs1.6,  just the same color adjustments as all pro players, if you watch Navi/Fnatic/FX live cs1.6 videos on Youtube. Colorful skins do not help aim at all...
I have nothing to defend, just take your admin judgments - will occasionally pop into the server if unbanned, otherwise good bye.

Best regards,
A1mer.cn
Title: Re: Unban Request - A1mer.cn - by admin Korne - Dust2 Only Server
Post by: SilverQuick on March 09, 2017, 12:35:16 am
Guys,

I was trying to enter the DD2 server for a quick fun, and found myself being banned again therefore found a way here.
I feel surprised to see the argument that I tried to cheat with an ESL skin. Just to be clear, I use these skin with no intention of taking advantages over enemies, it was for fun only - in fact it doesn't matter whatever skin is used for me.
In case you are interested to know how to see people better in dark, I always adjust the desktop color with gamma 1.31, and brightness 60% while playing cs1.6,  just the same color adjustments as all pro players, if you watch Navi/Fnatic/FX live cs1.6 videos on Youtube. Colorful skins do not help aim at all...
I have nothing to defend, just take your admin judgments - will occasionally pop into the server if unbanned, otherwise good bye.

Best regards,
A1mer.cn
You could use and higher your gamma and brightness that's all right we never said something against this, but using such colored models this definitely gives you an advantage over other players that's what's illegal in it and doing so would lead into a permanent ban, just understand this we are not trying to be harsh with or anything, but imagine if we let players use such models and say what you're saying atm, don't you think for a moment that this would be a disaster and will just look as cheating? since not "all" players in Ambrosia have any intention to use them or even have an idea to use them it will look 100% and be considered as an unfair advantage because it's a Public server not some kind of clan war game where all players are allowed to use them and at this rate it would be fine because they all use them in contrary in a Public server such as DD2 it would still illegal and advantageous for sure, and if you think it doesn't matter if you use them or not then why do you annoy yourself that much and go to download them and replace a model by model? why would you do all of this just to have a colored LEET and GIGN if you still think it wont give you any advantage? I see some contradiction in this tbh, if you believe you are too good and "pro" just try to be natural and don't dare modify any of your cstrike folder.
Title: Re: Unban Request - A1mer.cn - by admin Korne - Dust2 Only Server
Post by: A1mer.cn on March 09, 2017, 01:03:43 am
mate.... just keep me banned..........
Bye.



You could use and higher your gamma and brightness that's all right we never said something against this, but using such colored models this definitely gives you an advantage over other players that's what's illegal in it and doing so would lead into a permanent ban, just understand this we are not trying to be harsh with or anything, but imagine if we let players use such models and say what you're saying atm, don't you think for a moment that this would be a disaster and will just look as cheating? since not "all" players in Ambrosia have any intention to use them or even have an idea to use them it will look 100% and be considered as an unfair advantage because it's a Public server not some kind of clan war game where all players are allowed to use them and at this rate it would be fine because they all use them in contrary in a Public server such as DD2 it would still illegal and advantageous for sure, and if you think it doesn't matter if you use them or not then why do you annoy yourself that much and go to download them and replace a model by model? why would you do all of this just to have a colored LEET and GIGN if you still think it wont give you any advantage? I see some contradiction in this tbh, if you believe you are too good and "pro" just try to be natural and don't dare modify any of your cstrike folder.
Title: Re: Unban Request - A1mer.cn - by admin Korne - Dust2 Only Server
Post by: Andrew` on March 09, 2017, 07:22:17 pm
I also disagree with a perm. ban for the skin usage. Let us not forget that DD2 is usually boosted, so many people are not even in our forum, having read the rules. We could implement them in the server, with /rules or editting the motd, but there's no indication that makes it obligatory for any player to come here and read the rules, and check them often for any update or to recall any rule one might have forgotten. Besides, I also agree with some people here that claim a perm. ban may be too harsh, it's not like a wallhack that is obvious usage for advantage, skin usage can be for fun and we can force them to have the custom ones, but many people like having different skins(don't make me remind you of CSGO where people pay hundreds and even thousands of dollars just for a knife)...

So yeah, I'm for a short ban, like a warning, to not use the skins again in Ambrosia servers. I wanna make clear I haven't watched the demo(yet), but seeing everyone talking about the skins I guess we're past the cheating accusations.
Title: Re: Unban Request - A1mer.cn - by admin Korne - Dust2 Only Server
Post by: X-KilleR on March 09, 2017, 07:36:09 pm
I also agree with Andrew ,don't forget that this server is alive because of this regulars too, they are humans they make mistakes. last time one regular was banned for 15 days (Jugator) ! for what? for a minor mistake! and today another one for a direct permanent ban and who an oldie wtf?! seriously it is a gaming commuity not interpol
again i agree with you that a perm ban is way too harsh ,seriously

PS: Aimer ,you aren't that good after all, this skin gave you a great advantage in the game, shame on you  :D
Title: Re: Unban Request - A1mer.cn - by admin Korne - Dust2 Only Server
Post by: RAMBATEN on March 09, 2017, 07:46:49 pm
The advantage of ESL models comes when there is smoke..

None pro ever used customized models..ESL models was for viewers.

But if you can't play without them...Simply means you wanna take the advantage.

You are like old admin here called damage..always used to get his advantage in server...

But if you are so good there shouldn't be problem to remove them...

Title: Re: Unban Request - A1mer.cn - by admin Korne - Dust2 Only Server
Post by: groentje on March 09, 2017, 09:19:05 pm
Aimer, remove those silly models! Would be sad if we lose another good player...
Title: Re: Unban Request - A1mer.cn - by admin Korne - Dust2 Only Server
Post by: A1mer.cn on March 10, 2017, 01:05:35 am
I don't have problem to replace the old player model, in fact I have replaced it already playing on other servers, no difference to me in terms of scores at all (maybe to you, not to me).

The thing I really don't underhand is that people say skins make aiming difference, in my humble view, the argument itself is a kid trying to find execuse of being owned, as many of admins here that had been over the years...

Best,
A1mer.cn
Title: Re: Unban Request - A1mer.cn - by admin Korne - Dust2 Only Server
Post by: Unreal on March 10, 2017, 04:00:25 am
The advantage of ESL models comes when there is smoke..

None pro ever used customized models..ESL models was for viewers.

But if you can't play without them...Simply means you wanna take the advantage.

You are like old admin here called damage..always used to get his advantage in server...

But if you are so good there shouldn't be problem to remove them...

You cannot see them through the smoke.
Title: Re: Unban Request - A1mer.cn - by admin Korne - Dust2 Only Server
Post by: SilverQuick on March 10, 2017, 09:20:51 am
The advantage of ESL models comes when there is smoke..
Some of them are really advantageous when it comes for smoke, but the most advantageous thing for the one who's having them is the reaction or reflex as you like since it's not the same when you have default models compared to one of these as it gives you the advantage to recognize your opponent fast and at this rate it wont be a problem the distance of where your opponent may be at or the hideout he may be sitting in because it is so much colorful compared to the default models' camouflage, and as far as I know the ones who use these models have always an intention to gain a certain unfair advantage over the others, for example watch this video closely when the author explains how these skins make it easy for you to identify your opponents that's why it is only used for one and only reason which is to gain advantage in-game.

Title: Re: Unban Request - A1mer.cn - by admin Korne - Dust2 Only Server
Post by: RAMBATEN on March 10, 2017, 09:25:11 am
I don't have problem to replace the old player model, in fact I have replaced it already playing on other servers, no difference to me in terms of scores at all (maybe to you, not to me).

The thing I really don't underhand is that people say skins make aiming difference, in my humble view, the argument itself is a kid trying to find execuse of being owned, as many of admins here that had been over the years...

Best,
A1mer.cn

None says it effects how you aim..lol
Title: Re: Unban Request - A1mer.cn - by admin Korne - Dust2 Only Server
Post by: ~RoN on March 11, 2017, 10:50:18 pm
Some people need to open their eyes sometimes and read what i said. He was banned perm back again just to confirm that he will remove his skins as i have heard he removed them. I never was gone ban him perm if he removed his skins.

Instand of opening your mouth and talking most of you, you should try and learn to read what people say before commenting.

Any Modification in game play is not allowed in our servers. So members or admins who ever use's those any gameplay modification i am talking mostly about skins and awp crochair will be banned in futur perm with no excuses. I will be chasing for this from now on.

Anyway UNBANNED.