1-I see you dont know lt.cc is warned before it was me who create complaintJudging from your english level, I could say you either didnt have a good english qualification, or you did not finish it at all.
2- if you are little smart I warn LT.CC for demote before was banned if I cheat why I advertising me self to admin ss
3- have 35 year old ( 10 cs ) is not now to play with cheat
4- don't need cheat play well have all time good score wh is for beginner
Judging from your english level, I could say you either didnt have a good english qualification, or you did not finish it at all.
Why does it fucking matter here? I don't see what your post has to do with either the original posts or the replies. Who gives a damn if the guy finished his education, has got a master's degree in english or didn't at all?Why do you even bothering replying if you have nothing about the case? Making it worse than I did?
have 35 year old ( 10 cs ) is not now to play with cheatMaybe to prove him wrong
Why do you even bothering replying if you have nothing about the case? Making it worse than I did?
Just for you to understand, im saying that "HE MIGHT BE A DAMN KIDDO"
And if you still dont unserstand why I said that:
Maybe to prove him wrong
Q: Why do I need to prove him wrong?
A: Why does he have to include his age?
I think I made my point quite clear.
Anyhow, I think I supported myself in the best way possible.
I have almost no hair in my head with ageDon't worry dude, we did believe you expect a kid who tried to be the wise nose
https://ibb.co/g8yR1F
but we Have come out of the subject !!!
Judging from your english level, I could say you either didnt have a good english qualification, or you did not finish it at all.Not everyone is born like you, and had a good conditions to study, dont joke about people's English, even you sometimes use google translate ;)
Anyhow, I never made it certain. I used "might" which you seem to ignore, common sense and even supported my reply.As a high staff you should show good attitude towards others, not the attitude you showed on your replies. I mean how is this community going to be better if the high staff's attitude is shit...
Once again my apologies alli.
Maki: re-read tlmy reply, you seem to ignore some parts of it.
Groetnje: I MIGHT (- this ibdicates possibility) be a kiddo, but id certainly be a kiddo who supports his ideas rather than an ADULT whose attitude stinks.
Once again I apologise to alli.
I kindly ask stop splitting the topics because I couldn't even see where this whole started..Since when is your English so fluent? :o ???
If we actually have the report section about people let the topics stay there. But honestly the reaction from CC after "demote"...
Permanent ban was too harsh for it.
PS. You can't expect people who play CS to be talking english fluently.
I kindly ask stop splitting the topics because I couldn't even see where this whole started..I agree, especially the part of moving every single damn thing a Staff member thinks is drama to drama section and the whole conversation gets even more complicated. I think warning people should be enough to stop arguements, and I also think we often put our noses where they don't belong, leading to arguements.
If we actually have the report section about people let the topics stay there. But honestly the reaction from CC after "demote"...
Permanent ban was too harsh for it.
PS. You can't expect people who play CS to be talking english fluently.
Judging from your english level, I could say you either didnt have a good english qualification, or you did not finish it at all.
You said nothing insulting?... I kinda find this very insulting.If alli finds this insulting then im sorry twice, he is still free to report or evwn make a report or staff complaint topic about me if he wants.
I agree, especially the part of moving every single damn thing a Staff member thinks is drama to drama section and the whole conversation gets even more complicated. I think warning people should be enough to stop arguements, and I also think we often put our noses where they don't belong, leading to arguements.
Do you really believe that warning and removing people's posts would be a better solution ?I get that, but it's also downgrading people's opinion and point of view. Put it this way, if you were a member, you reply to a topic, and someone answers at you in a not so good way. You answer back to explain, defend yourself against him trying to make you look bad and this gets moved to Drama. There goes your defence. This downgrades both your opinion and his. Not to mention this whole topic-splitting. Warning will not make it go away permanently, but it does help teach some manners, you can simply cut off the arguement by warning, and if he continues, well, simply moderated, so the arguement will end one way or another, without moving or deleting replies. I just find this kind of not respecting people's word and opinion, downgrading it, and it's not even objective, what you find drama is not what Ed(for example) finds drama. Last but not least, if warning is such a pain in the ass, I guess we do have Staff to handle it.
Keep in mind that this has been done in the past and people were constantly QQing about forum warnings and about their posts being removed/trashed and therefore, censoring and restricting their freedom of speech.
Now at least they get the freedom of speech they were seeking for but we won't simply allow people to start this kind of dramatic discussions anywhere in this forum and that's why this board was created.
Re-read the post since I edited it meanwhile (in case there's sth you want to discuss about it).People are people. We are all responsible for our posts, but this does not prove anything, almost every single one of us has crossed the line one way or another, created an arguement, but as long as a Staff member finds it drama, let us move it here and make fun of it(it has happened plenty of times, check 2016 section). I still find it downgrading, it still messes with the freedom of speech, makes one's opinion look stupid and totally unwanted, but that's just my point of view. There is a warning system, and we can always try help and teach members the hard way, we're not Staff to have things easily moved. We're not babysitters of course, but they're not babies either, they have an opinion and we all have our angry moments, one should be informed his post has crossed the line, but not moved to the "circus" board. Anyway, let's leave it, I give up, if this helps solve this.
Imho it's not really downgrading people's opinion. People are responsible of what they post in the forum anyway so if they want to trashtalk about people's English level, like Red Wolf did in this particular topic, then they are free to do it. But they are responsible of it and they have to assume its consequences like said in the Forum Terms & Conditions (https://www.ambrosia-servers.com/community/index.php?topic=35165.0) that everybody is supposed to have read : "You remain solely responsible for the content of your posted messages". By only reading his post, you can perfectly see the dramatic nature of it. But this kind of posts don't get directly moved to the drama corner since it can either be taken as a simple joke or it can lead to viral situations like this one. So we cannot make the difference if we don't see what happens next.
If people want to say something negative about the community or about a staff member in particular they are also free to do it but only in the Complaints Section. If somebody trashtalks about the community anywhere but not in these boards then his post will definitely be moved to the drama corner and he may face heavy consequences (from a warning to a ban, depends on what he said of course).
Now, except these 2 situations, I don't believe that any topic has been split and moved to the drama corner yet this year (except Maliken's ones about his community).
https://www.ambrosia-servers.com/community/index.php?topic=36182.0LOL, wth, I swear I never even saw that arguement, but honestly, not surprised by the ex-staff/staff wannabes that put their nose on everything they see to show their IQ, this is who we are, this is the gaming atmosphere of the 21st century.
So in the current forum (.com) I'm just doing what @Ed and @RoNi have told me to do. When they took over this place, they wanted to change the mentality of the forum and make it a more enjoyable place. As you can see, we are being more lenient and I haven't warned anyone yet (except Red Mist after several verbal warnings) and people are able to say whatever they want. We don't judge a post by its quality anymore (spam/memes) like we used to do in the past but by its drama and ethical levels. But it is not always possible to predict the intentions of a post and that's why we don't jump to conclusions and wait to see the rest of the replies before making the right choice.
LOL, wth, I swear I never even saw that arguement, but honestly, not surprised by the ex-staff/staff wannabes that put their nose on everything they see to show their IQ, this is who we are, this is the gaming atmosphere of the 21st century.
Anyway, this is getting out of hand, move this to Dra.. oh wait.. lock this.
QQ much about topic being split to drama corner? I believe you don't understand fully why this board is here. Even though Red Wolfs post was unnecessary and irrelevant, you single-handled turned the whole topic from report to CC to your petty fight about why Red wolfs post was crap. We could of warned you for going offtopic, yet we wouldn't of warned Red Wolf, as he was still on topic. This "split topic" - "move to drama" bs is for your own safety and our pleasure. IF you got nothing better to do than argue about something irrelevant as that, then go for it, but don't trash the whole bloody topic! Quite rightfully so, if I made a report I wouldn't want some idiots to turn the topic to a fight about something completely else, or would I? Think about that one for a second before crying about splitting topics. I am sure you will pick on me using word "crying" but thats what I see.
This board, yet made in humor, is taken as seriously as any from our point of view and we will treat it just the same way as in other places, but the only exception is we wont lock the topics here.
If you find that topic moved here is downgrading and demeaning, perhaps maybe in future you will avoid creating a silly fight. If you wish to continue, you can go for it, but I won't respond to silly, idiotic fights which you started and expect me to take seriously anything else you say.
This "split topic" - "move to drama" bs is for your own safety and our pleasure
what? You're protecting people from their own replies? :D
Thanks, my own reply could have possibly done some serious damage to my psyche, now I'm in my internet safe space protected from ill spirits of my own posts.
But in all seriousness,
Entire point of this is, that I made myself in very similar fashion, you have no right to declare something is demeaning or intolerable so much, that it's up there to create drama. This is super subjective and it's stupid to say somebody is creating drama and somebody isn't. People have brought up some very valid points in numerous topics and it's senselessly trashed into drama corner. Say what you want for PR, but you and I both know that this section is a graveyard for posts you don't want to be taken seriously, so let's drop the act like it isn't.
I just find it extremely ironic, how much fuss there was in old Ambrosia about "censorship" and "dictatorship" when now literally anything that could be deemed as remotely offensive, or worse yet, not even offensive but just disagreeing with someone's opinion is instantly moved to drama corner where the topic is left to die. Overall it is a shame that you out of all people, mainly because I truly believed Ambrosia is in good hands when it was handed over to you, are trying hard to push something so incredibly daft and boneheaded, when literally everyone who has half a brain this community, be it me, @Maki, @RAMBATEN , @Andrew~, @SychO , @Alves , @groentje and even @Pringles, who is a moderator have advised you this is a stupid idea with how things are handled here. and not everything should be moved to drama, just because someone has a different opinion. This is not democratic or whatever was supposed to be. This is just you trying to push something for no reason whatsoever, other than just to prove your point, despite all people are trying here to accomplish is the freedom of speech you so adamantly tried to put in place after the community restart.
This is not what Ambrosia stood for and I just find it ridiculous that we have to solve something so blatantly obvious and parasitic in 2017.
Funny that coming from you. At your time, replies would just get deleted and warnings were issued. At least you are now free to express your opinion without actually getting it deleted. I remember, I used to spend my valuable time writing something with carefully chosen words and you or the moderators would just come and delete it.
I think this board is useful. However, the important thing is how good you are with judging what is drama and what isn't.
I dont remember trashing any of your topics nor instructing anyone to do so. So not sure why you're directing your message to me.Tbh he did not mention you specifically, but your "era".
May I know why the fuck is all this drama happening with my name in the topic?started with red wolf talking bad bout alli's language and later the drama started, after that, the staff splitted the topic and moved it to the trash section...
May I know why the fuck is all this drama happening with my name in the topic?
Let me summarize it for you.
As groentje said, they started an irrelevant argument (a.k.a drama by the majority of the community) out of something that doesn't concern your report (nor you).
Therefore, the "irrelevant argument" part was split out of the original topic and moved to this corner in order to keep the real subject of the original topic and to make it easier for its original poster and you. But some people still "cried" (definitely not using the appropriate word) about it.
The replies could have been removed and its users could have been punished for it but people would have still cried about freedom of speech and about us being too strict / making the wrong decision. That's why we moved the "irrelevant argument" replies to this board in order to let them talk as much as they want without having to punish them for it.