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Recycling => National Archives => Server Archives => Topic started by: Ed on March 03, 2012, 09:14:09 pm
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Since there's no head admin, I think that doesn't mean we can't do the meeting.
So why don't we do Admin meeting next week saturday evening?
Please leave the timings you can be below so we can adjust the times.
Admin meeting would be on ts3 on Ambrosia Channel.
Topics to discuss:
*Maps
*Some plugins
*Rules
*Other relevant things about JB
Come prepared (http://www.ambrosia-servers.com/forum//public/style_emoticons/default/smile.png)
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fine
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Could you please also let me know what time your free on Saturday?
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Can I join at time of "Plugins , map, and fixes / complaints + reports" join? I have a list with plugins description and links, and maps.
Also for complaints im all day on jb, I can tell what's true and what's not. :D.
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Well it is admin meeting, as it's name it is for admins only, but if you have some good ideas and something to say we can arrange to speak on ts3 any time if you want so I can put it on the meeting :)
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Okay would be good for tomorrow. :D.
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Let me know what time.
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Ok so i think it will be good if we make it around 1:00 o'clock? Also I think it is better to make it on Skype like every meeting we had in the pased? And it wont be bad if we add come old players too (we will discus this)
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Well I think TS3 is easier to use and it is pretty much same thing so we don't really need it on skype.
And timings should be only adjusted when everyone have responded on the times they are free on Sat.
About the non admin members to join, well it is admin meeting and should be kept that way :)
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should I come :)
Or I am not admin? :D
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You have admin rights on JB, so yes you can, leave the times when ur free :)
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Hm? Sami how you decided this to be on ts3? I prefer the meeting (if there will be) to be on skype like always... also we cant discuss the applications. This is JB's Head Admin job not ours. :)
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I am 24/7 as you know ;)
So if all want we can make it tomorow clock 6:00 GMT
Thats your choise not mine :D
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Well I want max all JB admins to respond, so next week would be best.
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im free after 8pm 2moro, if thats any good for anyone xD
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Although if most admins respond we can do tomorrow :)
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ill be online, just msg me if somethings going down :)
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Hm? Sami how you decided this to be on ts3? I prefer the meeting (if there will be) to be on skype like always... also we cant discuss the applications. This is JB's Head Admin job not ours. (http://www.ambrosia-servers.com/forum//public/style_emoticons/default/smile.png)
Somehow missed your reply :o
Well because we have ts3 and because it is the best for the conversations as we know skype has some problems specially with microphones etc as it had been in the past. and yes we can, why can't we? we can decide witch members are good enough and pass information for high staff as they don't play JB and don't know who is or who is not a good player and be a good admin also we don't have head admin.
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I see you liked my idea (http://www.ambrosia-servers.com/forum//public/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.png)
Next saturday sounds nice
However as always i'm never sure if i am available
Except at night cause i'm a vampire (http://www.ambrosia-servers.com/forum//public/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.png)
In terms of comunication i always believed skype is better
but sure why not s3 i ain't the one deciding :S
EDIT: Concerning the topics maybe we should just admins which is the main thing for the server stability. As for maps i suppose we should add the ones that were before the host change
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skype got blocked in my country so doing it in ts3 is better
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No i disagree about the applications. Only Head Admins can decide, It has always been like that and you cant just change it like that. We should wait for the leaders to promote someone who they trust and think he can handle the job. Have some patience :)
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Well fairly that doesn't concern me much either, just someone pointed out on that I think Mordred, but as I said we don't need to do it.
I had an argument with tasha about who can join and who can't. There is a reason that it is called an admin meeting, but for best to everyone I am changing the name to JB player meeting, so everyone who is most active on JB can join the meeting and discussion. This make more sense than letting people join Admin meeting when they don't have admin rights.
So for every interested player, joining the JB player meeting means, no spamming, no misbehaving, no screaming or annoying with microphone etc, basic simple rules so we can have good sufficient meeting. :)
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as i see its player meeting the title so i think we cqn also come ?
i am free most nightall time in ts3 night :/
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Well fairly that doesn't concern me much either, just someone pointed out on that I think Mordred, but as I said we don't need to do it.
I had an argument with tasha about who can join and who can't. There is a reason that it is called an admin meeting, but for best to everyone I am changing the name to JB player meeting, so everyone who is most active on JB can join the meeting and discussion. This make more sense than letting people join Admin meeting when they don't have admin rights.
So for every interested player, joining the JB player meeting means, no spamming, no misbehaving, no screaming or annoying with microphone etc, basic simple rules so we can have good sufficient meeting. (http://www.ambrosia-servers.com/forum//public/style_emoticons/default/smile.png)
i highly disagree and disaprove this turning into a player's jb meeting
this would turn into a troll meeting , even if we kick/ban them from the room , it will annoy many of us thus iy's going to be screwed up and many would loose their ideas
jbplayers can always suggest something on the forums
for me if this turning into a jb open player meeting i ain't joining becuz i already it's going to be an ideas less meeting and a big waste of time and ressources ...
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agree with taha and like snap said! this is head admin work! so remember where your place is :)
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normal members were previously allowed to join in meetings to decide maps etc if they were active. theres only 3-4 really active admins in JB and some of them don't even know the rules themselves even though they have admin rights..dont see why maps should be picked with just admins taha considering that other choices on other servers are done with players as well for all to have an input on.
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normal members were previously allowed to join in meetings to decide maps etc if they were active. theres only 3-4 really active admins in JB and some of them don't even know the rules themselves even though they have admin rights..dont see why maps should be picked with just admins taha considering that other choices on other servers are done with players as well for all to have an input on.
well no i don't think a whole admin meeting would/should be dedicated to choose maps lol ?
look at the op
talking about appliers and rules etc
maps would take 5 min of the total time of the meeting considering we all know the classical maps of jb and necessary ones
we could allow some players but only 2 or 3
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you cant pick admin applications anyway so that's pointless, thats head admin and above job not normal CS Admins
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skype got blocked in my country so doing it in ts3 is better
:o
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No i disagree about the applications. Only Head Admins can decide, It has always been like that and you cant just change it like that. We should wait for the leaders to promote someone who they trust and think he can handle the job. Have some patience (http://www.ambrosia-servers.com/forum//public/style_emoticons/default/smile.png)
i highly disagree and disaprove this turning into a player's jb meeting
this would turn into a troll meeting , even if we kick/ban them from the room , it will annoy many of us thus iy's going to be screwed up and many would loose their ideas
jbplayers can always suggest something on the forums
for me if this turning into a jb open player meeting i ain't joining becuz i already it's going to be an ideas less meeting and a big waste of time and ressources ...
Also you both are correct.
Also I think you need some patience (http://www.ambrosia-servers.com/forum//public/style_emoticons/default/smile.png) and wait for answer from other high staff
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(http://www.ambrosia-servers.com/forum//public/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.png)
another prank from fegelein aye
you cant pick admin applications anyway so that's pointless, thats head admin and above job not normal CS Admins
who said we r the ones who r going to accept appliers ?
ofc high staff may attend the meeting so it would be a good oppurtinuty to ask active admins about appliers
and tbh appliers and maps are the least we could worry about
jb needs alot more to be fixed
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I agree with you Taha, but due some people being so aggressive about being into the meeting that I changed it to JB player meeting and I absolutely agree with that this is not necessary and admins are there to discuss everything not letting members to join. Already explained the most to Tasha, but she kept calling me dictator. It is admin meeting called for a reason. And I said about admin apps. We don't accept them we just discuss who seems to be good who not and pass the information further to high staff. Head admin if I am correct in JB haven't been for 2 months already. We can wait for head admin, or we can do things ourselves, besides we don't choose head admins we just love JB and would rather do something about it than wait.
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Well at the current moment theres few active admins who play for a long time every day, atm the only one who really plays a LOT and is always on the server is snap. other admins come on but they're not as active as some of the most active members. what's the problem with inviting the most active members to the meeting? why is it such a big deal? you have hiphopboy who comes on to play CT then leaves, newstory isn't active, taha doesn't come on as much as he used to, sami you're kind of active but at weird times because of work, monster plays every now and then but thats about it as far as admins go and mcains just got more active. so how many people is that considering the ones who aren't excessively active? there's people who play for hours a day who aren't allowed to go discuss things when they represent jailbreak MORE than 90% of the admins like spangy, phoenix, harry, dukedevlin, smiley, jonathan, next etc.. they're the ones who will be affected by the decisions since they play more than most of you so it's kind of stupid to just cut those people out from discussing changes made to rules, maps and plug ins when they're the ones who have to deal with the changes to their favourite server
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Your always free to discuss things on forum and express your opinions, which all will be considered. So what is wrong with that?
The changes are made based on all people, but discussed privately with the admins who administrate the server and have to do it based on their duties. So it only makes sense that it goes as private from the public. This is how it has always been, I have been on the most admin meetings apart from the time I was off. So I am not sure why are you making this as such a huge deal not to mention you didn't try to join other admin meetings and didn't demand it. Now you demand that it is going public, but there are things concerning only admins not players. It is same with every business or politics. We take community for granted, but we do not involve community in the meetings. There are admins and admins decide whether you like it or not, that's how world is running.
If you become admin your always welcome to admin meetings, but if your not then for compromise this is JB player meeting. If some admins disagree with this and won't come, I won't blame them and that will mean there will be additional meeting for admins only, no matter how active or inactive they are.
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When there was admin meetings before, half of the server was admins. there would always be about 6 admins online at a time so the admin community represented most of the community. you had ares, noctrl, spaff, goodmood, and loads of others so it was a completely different situation. plus arne did used to invite the most active members to join in aswell. now you have VERY few active admins or the new admins who are inexperienced and if they had it their way we would have a server riddled with firework plugins and weird messed up maps with crazy mods. you'll be lucky to get one admin on the server now at peak times which is why its completely different. the changes won't affect the admins now because they barely play bar a couple, the changes will affect the players who should have the right to be involved with changes to rules/maps/plugins considering they're the ones who play more than most of you admins. the only person who is as active as most of the people i named is smit and snap
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In the previous meeting i was with tolga on the list where we only listened and not really discussed (no right to say) :)
At that time me and tolga ware the only members to attend, also mordred wasn't leading it, it was arne his love.
I don't mind to take place in this meeting and i prefer ts3 because i don't have skype on this computer.
Im a forum moderator (suspended), till Sunday my fm rights will be back :D
For jailbreak players, they can do a separate meeting, where will come to democracy... For those meetings one really active jailbreak player will open the discussion with the members and after the meeting will introduce his results to the admin meeting. We could do the player meeting first, which will happen (suppose) before the admin one.
That way players and admins are happy :)
Bare in mind, if any player or admin don't show up could have his vote uncounted.
One important thing is that one +uc should attend too
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Well said *PL*.
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Could i join too?
As im playing very long time JB.
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Well at the current moment theres few active admins who play for a long time every day, atm the only one who really plays a LOT and is always on the server is snap. other admins come on but they're not as active as some of the most active members. what's the problem with inviting the most active members to the meeting? why is it such a big deal? you have hiphopboy who comes on to play CT then leaves, newstory isn't active, taha doesn't come on as much as he used to, sami you're kind of active but at weird times because of work, monster plays every now and then but thats about it as far as admins go and mcains just got more active. so how many people is that considering the ones who aren't excessively active? there's people who play for hours a day who aren't allowed to go discuss things when they represent jailbreak MORE than 90% of the admins like spangy, phoenix, harry, dukedevlin, smiley, jonathan, next etc.. they're the ones who will be affected by the decisions since they play more than most of you so it's kind of stupid to just cut those people out from discussing changes made to rules, maps and plug ins when they're the ones who have to deal with the changes to their favourite server
i got no problem against the players nor with those guys you mentioned above
but 60% of them would come just to troll in the meeting for the heck it of it
yh we could allow players to come but only a limited amount like in previous meetings
we could 1 , 2 or up to 3 players but no more cuz it would turn into a chaos since the room would be hella full
and yh sorry for not coming much but i already made an inactivity topic but still i join sometimes when no one is there
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Yes i agree we must add 2-3 players so they can say their opinion too this must be active ppl who knows the rules well.
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Could I ?
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You know it's not the only the admins who got a voice in the server. I'v seen so many jailbreak with so many great ideas on the server but most of their ideas where neglected and where hated. Admins will discuss things that will make their life easier. I am positive about that. How about making it open and public so every player could have a voice in it? Yeah there could be chaos but you could resolve that easily. It's not all about making the admins life easier but it's also about making the server more fun for the PLAYERS. I am pretty sure the players know what they want more then what the admins want. If the admins decide everything without knowing what the players want then whats the point of admins? If the server is fun the players will join and not leave. The server is dependent most on the players. The admins are here to keep control and not mass control the whole server? We supposedly make votes for the public and not private meetings with admins that are never on the server and don't know what the players want. The admins will vote on what they want and since they're are no players to protest and prove their point the server will become strict as hell and there will be no fun in the servers anymore. Since mics where muted everyone felt under control because the admins could use they're mics when ever they wanted and the players couldn't. I am pretty sure we agreed that admins shouldn't use mics either? Well I am pretty sure they have been using them for their own fun and enjoyment.
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Look, forum isnt here for nothing. If players have ideas, plugins, maps, etc... they can post it on forum as suggestions and then admins in admin meeting will discuss things that players suggested. It was always like that and i dont see reason to change it. There are already problems in admin meetings just with admins. I cant imagine how it will be when there wiill be 10+ players... I will accept 1 or 2 players, or also that we will have 2 meetings, first player meeting and second admin meeting but dont mess with things.
And also, thats not job of admins to discuss admin applications so left this for emperors or when they will choose head admin.
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You know it's not the only the admins who got a voice in the server. I'v seen so many jailbreak with so many great ideas on the server but most of their ideas where neglected and where hated. Admins will discuss things that will make their life easier. I am positive about that. How about making it open and public so every player could have a voice in it? Yeah there could be chaos but you could resolve that easily. It's not all about making the admins life easier but it's also about making the server more fun for the PLAYERS. I am pretty sure the players know what they want more then what the admins want. If the admins decide everything without knowing what the players want then whats the point of admins? If the server is fun the players will join and not leave. The server is dependent most on the players. The admins are here to keep control and not mass control the whole server? We supposedly make votes for the public and not private meetings with admins that are never on the server and don't know what the players want. The admins will vote on what they want and since they're are no players to protest and prove their point the server will become strict as hell and there will be no fun in the servers anymore. Since mics where muted everyone felt under control because the admins could use they're mics when ever they wanted and the players couldn't. I am pretty sure we agreed that admins shouldn't use mics either? Well I am pretty sure they have been using them for their own fun and enjoyment.
the decision of removing was above our power ! if i had the chance to vote , i would gladly prefer keeping ts mics instead of muting them in an akward rule-enforcing way !
about the meeting , players can do their own meeting and call a high-staff or an admin to witness it and get some ideas to discuss it in the other admin meeting ! however in the admin meeting , we could allow 2 up to 3 players to join because if more joined the meeting , hell and chaos would occure and lame trolls would just spam mic ! ik we can kick them but those precious second when we 're going to kick them are crucial and we shouldn't waste them when we can get more ideas during those few secs !
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So first of all as sami said it is called ADMIN meeting for a reason. Yes ofc we can invite some trusted players but it will be only 2-3 guys. And in the pased we had admin meetings and i dont see any changes i mean the server isnt that strict. Also the mics are needed for Admins but it isnt something usefull for Ts.
Regards,
Monster
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So first of all as sami said it is called ADMIN meeting for a reason. Yes ofc we can invite some trusted players but it will be only 2-3 guys. And in the pased we had admin meetings and i dont see any changes i mean the server isnt that strict. Also the mics are needed for Admins but it isnt something usefull for Ts.
Regards,
Monster
Admins say they won't use mics for their own enjoyment but guess what? They do. I would suggest mics for t's for that admin meeting but I know the idea will be put down in seconds because admins want to have an easier job and not gag people. I remember when mics where enabled there was no abusing by any t for the mics. There where no problems with the mics and everyone had so much fun doing singing contests, debates, w/e games they did. Everyone was enjoying the server till someone just comes and mutes mics and leaves.
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Lets do it like megachicken did once
ALL THOSE WHO WANNA COME CAN GO
However an admin will be the host of the conversation so any abusing can lead to kicking perm (i'm suposing this is skype however its prob possible in ts3 as well)
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I think some of the players keep forgetting that admins are players too and also they are doing the job which is all the commands and watch the server or come to the server when called. Sometimes it is good to have some privacy out of all the players and only admins.
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This Saturday GMT+2 around 8pm in the evening on skype.
If you want to attend please leave your skype nicks bellow and I will add you to the meeting. Only 2-3 members will be allowed to join, since I discussed with other admins that best is to keep it the way we have before and for satisfaction of players we will choose 2-3 players. So if your interested leave ur skype nick bellow.
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Mine is: gabyboy5
But actualy you already have me so nvm just want to say that i;ll take part.
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Uff monster :D at first glance I read your nick wrong ;D
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I would like to suggest to make it on ts3. The main reason is that on skype we hear background and annoying noises from some mics. This problem wont be on ts3 since people have to hold key to talk. Next reason is that admins like to spam on skype with smileys. I think everyone know it who was on the last admin meetings.
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Nickname: bobeto752
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Ok, give me pls reason why is skype better?
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Im always on ts3, you got problems shout for me.
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Well I prefer ts3 as well, I will get everyone on skype first and it will happen in ts3 as just need to get ppl :)
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skype got blocked in my country zzz
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oh yes Taha, well it will be on Ambrosia ts3, but I need people who are on skype so when the time comes I could reach them, I want maximum attendance, would be good if everyone came without chasing them at 8pm GMT +2.
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Sami i suggest that if you want to improve the jailbreak server then you leave this meeting as open to all. The problem with having a admin meeting only will restrict the number of good ideas, games or others etc. Or i suggest that you post on here the outcome of the meeting so everyone can have a gander :)
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agree with ezza! you all need to hear not only the good words but the bad too :) admins have an other vision of the game and players other so i think that the better idea is let the players talk too its dificult to talk with them but its very important to hear them
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So Sami what is the final decision? Skype or ts3? If its on skype - marrtin95
Teamspeak is not hard to download and install and the voice quality is better. Also Taha cant come on skype so thats why i prefer the meeting to be on ts3.
I am not sure if i will be able to come because I have problems with my PC.
@Ezza: I dont agree to be open meeting because the last meeting was only with admins and it was full of chat spam with emoticons, laughs etc. The forum is the place where players suggest their ideas. I agree 1-2 to come but not open meeting. Of course after the meeting the results will be posted same as Mcain always used to do (http://www.ambrosia-servers.com/forum//public/style_emoticons/default/smile.png)
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If its not a open meeting then discusions should be posted here for everyone to discuss after :)
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For the best for all as I said before we will invite only the ones who are the most interested and been the most active, atm everyone is free to post here till Sat 6pm if they want to join or not. It will be on ts3 as I believe it will be better, less spam and more convenient for the things we need to discuss.
Also forum is for people to express their ideas and suggestions and we have always in admin meetings discussed the ideas and suggestions. So I don't see much reason to involve everyone here as it will be chaotic.
and yes Ezza, the outcome as always will be posted on forum for everyone to see and discuss it. As we don't have head admin we won't accept or not accept until everything is cleared out with the majority :)
@Columbia, I would find your comment more efficient if you were playing JB also remember that admins are players too only with duties and more responsibilities, that doesn't make us any different. (http://www.ambrosia-servers.com/forum//public/style_emoticons/default/smile.png)
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agree with ezza! you all need to hear not only the good words but the bad too (http://www.ambrosia-servers.com/forum//public/style_emoticons/default/smile.png) admins have an other vision of the game and players other so i think that the better idea is let the players talk too its dificult to talk with them but its very important to hear them
jesus christ YOU DON'T EVEN PLAY JB !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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taha i don't know if you know what admin mean and what team work means :) and for your information i played jb long time ago :) i sometimes few minutes and even if i don't play jb that don't means that i can't give my opinion i'm part of the ambrosia staff like you :) so all what with ambrosia will and should happens we ALL have the right to give our opinion stop acting like a child and GDL :)
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I agree with colombia
Even if he doesn't have jb experience its still pretty obvious that admins doesn't not mean SUPERIOR LIFE FORM
Apart from that
Skype: revolverlord
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I agree with colombia
Even if he doesn't have jb experience its still pretty obvious that admins doesn't not mean SUPERIOR LIFE FORM
Apart from that
Skype: revolverlord
It's not about being admin is way advanced !
It's about controlling the admin meeting !
K let's allow all JB players to join ! others would want to join aswell and would claim they play jb aswell !
Let's let them all join ! You know what would happen ... Complete Chaos ... Trolls coming from nowhere would start screaming in mic and spamming ! We admins are numberous so imagine how we could control ourselves whilst assisting in this meeting ! I was the one who suggested to allow up to 4 players who should be the representative or some kinda of
"delegate xD" of all jb players ! You know if we allowed every1 to join , then would ban spammers they would whine 'bout thus creating more hate !
Anyways you choose what you want to do !
PS : Colombia please instead of arguing with me , get more english classes because i barely understood what you wrote there m8 (http://www.ambrosia-servers.com/forum//public/style_emoticons/default/wink.png)
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Skype has an awesome tool called
Remove user from the conversation
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Skype has an awesome tool called
Remove user from the conversation
we're going to do this meeting on ts3 because my country blocked skype and coz mics in skype r annoying since we can hear parasites
but not in ts3 since its push key to talk
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Mcain, ts3 has an awesome tool called "Kick/Ban players from Channel/Server" :D. But the main reason i want ts3 that i have headache after admin meetings in skype. We hear every mic and my head is going to explode.
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loll taha really English classes? since when is English in ambrosia a problem? lolll
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PS : Colombia please instead of arguing with me , get more english classes because i barely understood what you wrote there m8 (http://www.ambrosia-servers.com/forum//public/style_emoticons/default/wink.png)
And you should get some maners. Btw, if this isnt arguing, then i suggest that you search for the meaning of "arguing".
Here, this will save you some time.
Arguing: a contentious speech act; a dispute where there is strong disagreement
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And you should get some maners. Btw, if this isnt arguing, then i suggest that you search for the meaning of "arguing".
Here, this will save you some time.
Arguing: a contentious speech act; a dispute where there is strong disagreement
well as i said earlier instead of constant disputing with me , he should get some english classes !
And sir are you his lawyer ? because I don't think that i've spoken to you ! So take a chill pill geek
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PS : btw it's manners not maners
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Oh my lord.. stop arguing on here because it's pointless and this is a thread about an admin meeting. Don't know if you've been sleeping but there was a long post about respect/arguing/hate and right now that post isn't being respected! Nip your post is pointless, has no relevant to the admin meeting just backing up a fellow d2er so basically you've come to spam and expand the argument some more while complaining about it, good job.
Anyways reason I thought to put players in is because there aren't many admins. If you're all saying skype was an issue because of "spamming" of smileys then surely that's a problem with the ADMIN TEAM and shows their maturity no? you can't spam on ts3, you have chat but you can disable that I think in the room. In other admin meetings you probably had 3x the amount of admins that you have currently, there really isn't many people who are admins now who are on the server every day playing even 10% of what active members do so it only makes sense to let those join if they're the ones who its going to effect. Kind of annoying to see names here posting when they haven't bothered with jailbreak for a long long time and only come on for the odd 5 minutes, if you can't be bothered to even admin jailbreak then why do you want to go to the jailbreak meeting?
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well as i said earlier instead of constant disputing with me , he should get some english classes !
And sir are you his lawyer ? because I don't think that i've spoken to you ! So take a chill pill geek
I could use the same words that you once used and say "Yes, i am. Why, r u jealous?"
But it would be pointless.
You started all of this, constantly moaning some bullshit about him. Always the first to criticize him.
One chill pill? You should take 5/6 pills, at least. I guess this (http://www.ambrosia-...5306#entry55306 (http://\\\"http://www.ambrosia-servers.com/forum//index.php?/topic/3638-respect-respect-and-respect/page__p__55306#entry55306\\\")) meant nothing.
Nip your post is pointless, has no relevant to the admin meeting just backing up a fellow d2er so basically you've come to spam and expand the argument some more while complaining about it, good job.
The only thing pointless for me is your post, as well as your opinion. I never cared about it, and never will.
Face it.
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Active jailbreakers has one political thought that because jailbreak is a hard mod to master/learn/practice and when a guy from outer space comes in that meeting they will became radioactive like a proton :)
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Nip, dont start fight. Tasha said as her opinion as true. Why did you post this? This is between Colombia and Taha, why do you need to increase the fight? Also, colombia and taha, if you want fight go out of forum pls.
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Nip, dont start fight. Tasha said as her opinion as true. Why did you post this? This is between Colombia and Taha, why do you need to increase the fight? Also, colombia and taha, if you want fight go out of forum pls.
Sorry, couldn't stay quiet. But that doesn't mean that what i said isnt true.
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I am amazed how you can start argue in every mather..Taha please don't start provoking people and respect other members. If your attitude will not change in few days I will make sure you will.
This goes to all. We are here to improve community and first of all having fun and playing. If you have somekind of personal problems and you have to let it out as rude behaviour. It's better then close pc and go outside to cool down.
Regards JohnNie.
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Due people starting arguments for small issues I will lock the topic, so anyone who is interested, Admin meeting will be on ts3 8pm tomorrow GMT +2, or sunday afternoon. around same time.
We will allow only few non admin players join, others will have to get the outcome on forum :) x
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It is part of the server past so i am moving it to archive.