Recruitment & Justice => Staff Complaints & Misconduct => Resolved Staff Complaints => Topic started by: blaublud on August 04, 2016, 12:24:28 pm
Title: Complaint - Unknown - Dust2 Only
Post by: blaublud on August 04, 2016, 12:24:28 pm
Admin/Staff Name: Unknown
Server: Dust2 Only
Date & Time: 8/4.2016, 13:00 and 13:08
Complaint: some nub kid in your staff team slayed me for being in base (as a T) after 10 sec of round start. I asked him why he did that and in that moment i saw aimboter and i reported him to admins. Next round i was in base for about 10 sec too and then i headed to B site and he slayed me again...He didnt respond so i asked him to ban me so i can see his info to report him. He didnt ban me, but he kicked me. After few minutes i joined again and i tried to provoke him a bit to get banned (to get info for report) and again, i got kicked... EDIT: aimboter i reported got banned about 10 minutes after reporting him
Evidence (screenshots, demos...):
Title: Re: Complaint - Unknown - Dust2 Only
Post by: Red Wolf on August 04, 2016, 12:35:41 pm
Hello, Can you post the admin name on server? Maybe that would help a bit more.
Title: Re: Complaint - Unknown - Dust2 Only
Post by: blaublud on August 04, 2016, 12:41:03 pm
I remember i saw Igneel and RioT in spec 2nd time i entered server
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Post by: Velaxers on August 04, 2016, 12:50:48 pm
In my opinion I agree the admins names should be shown on every action they do.
Also, could you please not call any staff a kid? thanks.
Title: Re: Complaint - Unknown - Dust2 Only
Post by: blaublud on August 04, 2016, 12:57:24 pm
When they start acting maturely (like staff members ought to act) ill stop calling them kids
Pretty fair i think? and why are there no ss? I uploaded 4 of them o.O
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Post by: DonTodo # on August 04, 2016, 01:51:52 pm
Hello, Can you post the admin name on server? Maybe that would help a bit more.
As we are anonymous in the server this is pretty impossible to find out for players.
Title: Re: Complaint - Unknown - Dust2 Only
Post by: Unreal on August 04, 2016, 02:05:26 pm
I can totally understand you. Please understand that we all make mistakes. When I was an admin, I had to do the same thing. I'm pretty sure those guys (Igneel and Riot) had a solid reason to do so. Anyways, on behalf of my friends and co-workers I want to apologise for that. Staff members will sort it out soon. Kind regards, Unreal.
Title: Re: Complaint - Unknown - Dust2 Only
Post by: Burzum on August 04, 2016, 02:24:34 pm
admins should focus more on cheaters than in AFKs or campers
anyways, there must be a reason for the slay. and sometimes we delay banning cheaters coz every round there are like 2/3 reports, so we must spec all time different ppl, and we only can spec 1 by 1
Title: Re: Complaint - Unknown - Dust2 Only
Post by: SilverQuick on August 04, 2016, 02:37:39 pm
I'm sure you were camping so bad at T spawn when you got slayed (players are doing it so much these last days), and maybe he did slap you as well before he had to slay/kick you? I missed the action since I was off, but you shouldn't provoke admins just to know their nicknames as the admin who were slaying/kicking you should also respond to you and tell you the reason of that slay/kick if it's true what you just said of course.
Title: Re: Complaint - Unknown - Dust2 Only
Post by: blaublud on August 04, 2016, 02:41:46 pm
I just joined server, how can i camp so badly :S And ofcourse logs can be checked
Title: Re: Complaint - Unknown - Dust2 Only
Post by: SilverQuick on August 04, 2016, 02:56:50 pm
You just did? and after you did he just went for the slay directly like that? you said in your complaint that just after 10 seconds in T spawn he slayed you which is quite long for me tbh satying 10 seconds in T spawn, I mean were you awping or something so it took you 10 seconds to leave the T spawn area? besides you said also that the "next" round you were in base for another 10 seconds as well and when you were heading for B he slayed you again... if this all happened in two rounds or 3 then you didn't "just joined the server" mate I see some contradiction here... also would be better if the admin in question would reply himself for clearing the situation.
Title: Re: Complaint - Unknown - Dust2 Only
Post by: blaublud on August 04, 2016, 03:24:54 pm
You just did? and after you did he just went for the slay directly like that? you said in your complaint that just after 10 seconds in T spawn he slayed you which is quite long for me tbh satying 10 seconds in T spawn, I mean were you awping or something so it took you 10 seconds to leave the T spawn area? besides you said also that the "next" round you were in base for another 10 seconds as well and when you were heading for B he slayed you again... if this all happened in two rounds or 3 then you didn't "just joined the server" mate I see some contradiction here... also would be better if the admin in question would reply himself for clearing the situation.
You see some contradiction? Check if there is brain on sale
Also if u want to prevent camping, get camp zones, so admins can keep an eye on real problem called cheaters, you have plenty of them in dd2
Title: Re: Complaint - Unknown - Dust2 Only
Post by: SilverQuick on August 04, 2016, 03:29:47 pm
You see some contradiction? Check if there is brain on sale
Also if u want to prevent camping, get camp zones, so admins can keep an eye on real problem called cheaters, you have plenty of them in dd2
please relax, no need to say anything about buy brain, kids or stuff like that
1 question, what do u want we do about this ¿? i mean, we dont know the admin who slayed u, and ALSO u dont give any proof (demo, screenshot) so we must trust ur words about what u saying "10 secs in spawn and slay".
maybe u are saying the truth, u just joined and after 10 secs an admin slayed u (i really doubt it, if it was ur 1st round on server any admin slays campers in their 1st round camping 10 secs only without give any warning before). but if u could show a demo of this, or a ss... idk, some proof maybe. so we could talk with the admin and the admin also could reply here and defend himself. if u right and admin abused, he would been punished (maybe suspended for some days)
obviously, if i see that action from an admin i would had talk with him, about this. but we dont know who admin was, and we dont know if u telling the truth 100%.... so i guess this report will be dropped and any action will be taken. because we dont got any proof about what u saying
Title: Re: Complaint - Unknown - Dust2 Only
Post by: blaublud on August 04, 2016, 04:13:16 pm
Its not my fault admin names dont show up when they take action. I asked him to ban me so amx bans can print his info in my console, but as i said before, he kicked me, twice, when i asked him to ban me.
Title: Re: Complaint - Unknown - Dust2 Only
Post by: Ed on August 04, 2016, 04:33:01 pm
Don't worry, I will investigate it shortly. I have also pretty good hunch of who did this and by the sounds of it, they are in trouble.
Title: Re: Complaint - Unknown - Dust2 Only
Post by: Unreal on August 04, 2016, 04:53:47 pm
Well, actually if you know the rules you are allowed to camp more than 10 seconds. In fact, not beyond 30 seconds. But like I said, it's gonna take time.
Title: Re: Complaint - Unknown - Dust2 Only
Post by: Ed on August 04, 2016, 04:59:03 pm
Check the spoiler. Well, I agree that he shouldn't of rushed with slaying/camping, one thing everyone needs to adjust to. But on the other hand your language and constant harass is out of line. It's not exactly how you told it to be, logs don't lie. About slaying @Igneel needs to respond and explain what and why.
About your foul language, well, let the people judge that.
Title: Re: Complaint - Unknown - Dust2 Only
Post by: Unreal on August 04, 2016, 05:27:56 pm
If it would happen to me I would warn you if you are not listening I'd ban you for 3 hours straight for swearing. You swear too much. Keep it cool - admins will do the same. They are people as well with feelings. If you are polite to them - they will be polite too. Do not do that again. That's your own fault.
Title: Re: Complaint - Unknown - Dust2 Only
Post by: blaublud on August 04, 2016, 05:30:56 pm
did u read my report ? I tried to provoke him to get banned, so i can get info to report properly...
Title: Re: Complaint - Unknown - Dust2 Only
Post by: Unreal on August 04, 2016, 05:35:46 pm
did u read my report ? I tried to provoke him to get banned, so i can get info to report properly...
Of course I did read your report, my man. In fact, I read it triple times. No matter what, the way you tried to provoke him was absolutely wrong. Even provoking someone isn't good, is it? The point I'm making here is you need to try and find the way around it. Try to talk to them but what you did was swearing straight away.
Nevertheless, I see your point. He might have rushed with slaying but in any case he did his best. You are not allowed to swear that much. Lets not go off the topic, you did camp. And like I said before, he must have had a solid reason to slay you. He is still learning. Managers will make sure it will not happen again. Lets wait till he responds. It's the matter of time. But don't lose your cool.
Title: Re: Complaint - Unknown - Dust2 Only
Post by: SilverQuick on August 04, 2016, 06:31:22 pm
did u read my report ? I tried to provoke him to get banned, so i can get info to report properly...
You only complicated your report now when you went directly for insults and provocations toward him just to get his nickname in fact, you did report him at the end and still you didn't get his nickname although you provoked and insulted him until logs showed us who he truly was, he did slay you maybe he rushed in his decisions or idk, but still insulting, provoking admins isn't tolerated at all and by doing that you've just violated a serious rule of this community and since you knew about the logs already before making a report why you insisted that much reconnecting and insulting just to get his nickname? let managers investigate another time instead of losing your cool in-game because doing so wont give you any advantage in your report unfortunately.
Title: Re: Complaint - Unknown - Dust2 Only
Post by: Natsu Dragneel on August 05, 2016, 04:41:21 am
Riot got nothin to do with it, it was me, As in first, i was only admin, i got no time to watch only a camping players, when i saw u camping in base more than 10 sec i slayed you cause i warned before. So, when i slayed you in first time u started swearing and insutling on admin chat *Retareded admin* Dumbfuck* *stupid & idiot* So it's not my fault you camp while am trying to watch the hackers, next time don't camp in T's base when ur a T. And respect the admins, You calling admins *kids* will not help your report. Goodluck.
Edit: guyz, i didn't rush i was 1 admin vs 31 players, you tell me can i watch only that guy if he camps alot or not ? i see him camping more than 10 sec i gotta take action and move on.. silver ma man always saying truth. Ty bruh. Oh and @Eros i see you already got the proof why i banned him.
Title: Re: Complaint - Unknown - Dust2 Only
Post by: Ed on August 05, 2016, 06:04:52 am
But Igneel, you don't have to focus on campers, it is not a priority. Also 10 seconds of a round start and you want everyone gone from the T spawn? As I said before there must be balance and T are allowed to camp within reason. You slay people if you see them at 0:20 of round left still camping in T spawn, but not the other way around. If you are alone, you prioritize and only watch cheaters unless camping goes out of hand and the game is nothing but campers, so it doesn't lead to this.
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Post by: Natsu Dragneel on August 05, 2016, 06:12:50 am
But Igneel, you don't have to focus on campers, it is not a priority. Also 10 seconds of a round start and you want everyone gone from the T spawn? As I said before there must be balance and T are allowed to camp within reason. You slay people if you see them at 0:20 of round left still camping in T spawn, but not the other way around. If you are alone, you prioritize and only watch cheaters unless camping goes out of hand and the game is nothing but campers, so it doesn't lead to this.
That's what i mean ! i wasn't focusing on campers, i saw him alone in base so i slayed him..
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Post by: Burzum on August 05, 2016, 09:36:03 am
i must admit that a couple of weeks ago i had a chat with Igneel, coz i saw he was using his powers very fast... (i remember a chat about CTs allowed to camp, and to dont rush using powers on players)
Title: Re: Complaint - Unknown - Dust2 Only
Post by: RAMBATEN on August 05, 2016, 12:52:07 pm
Riot got nothin to do with it, it was me, As in first, i was only admin, i got no time to watch only a camping players, when i saw u camping in base more than 10 sec i slayed you cause i warned before. So, when i slayed you in first time u started swearing and insutling on admin chat *Retareded admin* Dumbfuck* *stupid & idiot* So it's not my fault you camp while am trying to watch the hackers, next time don't camp in T's base when ur a T. And respect the admins, You calling admins *kids* will not help your report. Goodluck.
Edit: guyz, i didn't rush i was 1 admin vs 31 players, you tell me can i watch only that guy if he camps alot or not ? i see him camping more than 10 sec i gotta take action and move on.. silver ma man always saying truth. Ty bruh. Oh and @Eros i see you already got the proof why i banned him.
So you saw only me in base? I had deagle and cts were pushing from all sides while my "mates" where camping with awps, ak47s and other powerfull weapons. I cannot rush alone with deagle, especially if i join in the middle of round....You ruined my gameplay from the first round i joined and you needed 10 minutes to ban aimboter after i reported him....
Title: Re: Complaint - Unknown - Dust2 Only
Post by: Natsu Dragneel on August 05, 2016, 02:13:36 pm
I was about to slay them, no CTS around according to ESP. Burzum come on man told u I though the c4 was planted... And I banned after 10 mins cause I need a good demo as a proof.
Title: Re: Complaint - Unknown - Dust2 Only
Post by: blaublud on August 05, 2016, 02:39:10 pm
I was about to slay them, no CTS around according to ESP. Burzum come on man told u I though the c4 was planted... And I banned after 10 mins cause I need a good demo as a proof.
So i was alone in base and u were about to slay my "mates" too ? Interesting...
You are in rush with taking actions against "campers", but with cheaters, you are recording movie... You need no more than 10 seconds demo of aimboter in action...Easiest cheat to notice. Regular players dont have ESP, you know... You join in the middle of round, "mates" camp in base, u hear gun shots from all sides, what would you do ?
Title: Re: Complaint - Unknown - Dust2 Only
Post by: Natsu Dragneel on August 05, 2016, 03:47:27 pm
Me? I would face them why would u camp them. And yes I can slay campers at sight. And no 10 sec demo isn't enough, Eros told us at the meeting am gonna listen to him not you.
Title: Re: Complaint - Unknown - Dust2 Only
Post by: Burzum on August 05, 2016, 04:20:13 pm
Me? I would face them why would u camp them. And yes I can slay campers at sight. And no 10 sec demo isn't enough, Eros told us at the meeting am gonna listen to him not you.
man, Eros said in general: record good and long demos. but u dont need more than 10 secs for rec an aimbotter or a speed hacker. no need to be so strict with eros´words, and also so strict with rules and players. this is exatly what we chat on steam. no need to punish every single player who is talking foreign, camping or saying "fu**" word. no need to be so strict with some actions. ofc yes strict if player is insulting or hacking, obvs. but sometimes the use of our powers should be the last option, after talking with players and explaining them our rules
Title: Re: Complaint - Unknown - Dust2 Only
Post by: Cocainee Vendetta on August 05, 2016, 07:31:18 pm
1. Been playing last couple days - camping is ridiculous. People camping with AWP till end of round + nabs with C4 doing a marathon between one side of T spawn to the other. 2. Your language is foul.
Title: Re: Complaint - Unknown - Dust2 Only
Post by: Ed on August 05, 2016, 07:52:14 pm
So i was alone in base and u were about to slay my "mates" too ? Interesting...
You are in rush with taking actions against "campers", but with cheaters, you are recording movie... You need no more than 10 seconds demo of aimboter in action...Easiest cheat to notice. Regular players dont have ESP, you know... You join in the middle of round, "mates" camp in base, u hear gun shots from all sides, what would you do ?
I completely agree with what you said here and I can understand your frustration, but you know, this wasn't the right thing to do mate. Nevertheless thanks for bringing this up. I would though remind you that such foul language again in future will not be tolerated and you will be banned by one of our admins. Keep it cool, there is no need for methods as such, just next time come to forum, make a complaint, make sure to check the time, the command used on your or someone else etc and we will investigate it without having you insulting and swearing at our admins.
Igneel, I will need you to join the meeting again tomorrow at 18:00 GMT 0 as I can see you have misunderstood few things as what Burzum said. In fact we already discussed this, but it is always good to refresh your memory. I understand things sometimes get out of hand and wanting to do so many things alone in the server are not easy at the beginning, but everyone makes mistakes, just as long as we learn from them. Well done for not loosing your cool. Now for the complaint itself. The following actions will be taken: *Administrator in question will be revised and correct methods of administrating in the server covered. *Soon to be introduced an anti camp method so our administrators do not have to deal with it and thus making camping less of an occurrence. *Person making the complaint has received a written warning not to use foul language as that will result in a prolonged ban. Thanks for your time. Solved