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General Category => Drama 2021 => General Discussions => Drama 2016 => Topic started by: Pim on August 02, 2016, 12:52:30 pm
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For all the new faces here, hi i'm Pim.
Yesterday when i was on the ts3 server i suddenly noticed it's been about a year since we've had the old servers and about half a year it switched to .com, kinda shocked me as it felt shorter. Now here's the moment of truth, (read my truth), there's a couple of issues bugging me and i simply wanted to adress them here in this topic.
Well yeah, let's start where i left off. CS:GO, if anyone wants to make this succeed at all you should know how the boosting system in csgo works. It's automatic, meaning that every server launched by anyone gets put on the masterserver or when people just press join random custom server. The thing is though, when they randomly join a dead server, they leave. New servers like the ones youself have don't have regulars. If anyone that wants these servers to succeed, he should just make get-to-gethers with 6 people and shit in no time you'll see the server getting populated; That is, if the server is fun ;)).
Proceeding on to the technicial part of the server, let's start with neatness. The younger usually like all these splashy colors and all popping up in the chatbox, but especially the players on the 1v1 want a simple unified text color system. Next to that it looks like you barely messed around with the settings the plugin has to offer, like you frankly don't give a crap ;P.
There's also something as making a dead community more dead, doing nothing on servers for months leaving it dead chilling on the ground. At least clean up your mess. Make new projects, it takes 1 day of work tops making a whole new mod from scratch. There's plenty of opportunities, wanna go catch them?
Moving on to the Staff team, I don't really feel like naming anybody. But there's a couple of members, and this goes all the way from the bottom to the top, which i foreal question why they have that rank at all. Just doesn't really look like a lock-tight team. There's certainly some that do hold potentional, but some really don't.
Also, move the drama corner up to the ambrosia general place, it's part of the core if you ask me. monitor it actively as well. I don't think you should be taking this part of the forum as a joke just to push away all drama in your way. (not saying you do). Also there's a bit much dead space on the forums nobody uses. might be time to migrate some parts. For the rest it looks great
Next is the teamspeak server, it really looks like a mess. There's over 30/40 active ranks or something and really makes my mind go crazy lol, the fuck is this archon btw and why do they talk like they the bosses in town. I'm really sorry to say, but you can really just tell from their nicknames what you're up to and it's a bit funny :P. Also, the best functionallity of the music bot is the youtube thing, people want to randomly join together and show eachother some new songs. It's still broken, really dude?
To conclude this rant i just wanted to say, there's mess all over the place. clean it up okay, it's done easily with so many people if they're capable of things, make deadlines and launch full functional shit that you can be proud of i guess.
Peace,
Pim
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nice to see u here. ur tips are always welcome :-*
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Where have you been?? :D
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Great stuff.
Why don't you apply for something higher and help them out?
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Great stuff.
Why don't you apply for something higher and help them out?
He was UC, and he resigned not long ago..
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He was UC, and he resigned not long ago..
dd2 needs a Manager, just saying 8)
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Always a pleasure to see you around. ;)
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I wonder why did you post this in the drama corner. Looks more like a feedback topic than a drama one :D
And don't expect me to share my opinion of your feedback. Just wait for @Eros/@~RoN or wait until we discuss about it with the rest of the team.
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I wonder why did you post this in the drama corner. Looks more like a feedback topic than a drama one :D
And don't expect me to share my opinion of your feedback. Just wait for @Eros/@~RoN or wait until we discuss about it with the rest of the team.
i guess my intentions just were so much worse > ;-)
but yea,i thought of that afterwards as well. cant move it tho
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have to agree on the teamspeak server,one of the reasons why I never join the server seeing 100 minecraft swords in rainbow colours some that even look like dildos .. too much channels,I understand that Archon is some sort of minecraft community that is just using this teamspeak to chat but jesus :D
anyway nice to see you dropping by man
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It's good to point out those little things which are may not be seen by higher staff due to other concerns which are of course can be way more important - but that's not the point.
The point is to not just mention those things but at least participate in solving them. As some of you know I resigned but when I will be ready to help again I will re-apply and start helping DD2 Admin-ship, if of course manager will accept me. Just to clarify, I'm not trying to call out anyone saying they don't help. Just trying to engage people with any kind of skill to help Ambrosia. Together we can do much more! As you all know it's easy to break one match rather than many of them. So we might as well apply that to our community.
Lets try to talk less but do more.
Thank you:)
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Hello Pim,
I'll go through this the same order you have written them.
-CSGO. Well it is easy for you to point fingers, but you kinda left us, when we actually would of really really appreciated your help and input. I know you felt otherwise, but heck we don't have the right people for CSGO and as I told you in TS3 couple days ago, that Ambrosia never acquired a CSGO member base which would kick start the servers back to life. I also agree with you there, that that is the best way to get activity, but who is willing to do that? The only person right now I see doing that is Lagger, who have my regards and appreciation for doing so.
-1v1. Well this isn't my area, best is if Red wolf answers that one as he made them. I certainly agree if it is like what you say it is.
-New projects/cleaning mes. It is a bit of an odd one, as much as we would push for this, everyone has had their exams, which took a lot of people out of the picture and also vacations since it is summer time. If you don't see a progress during this time, it is because everyone is a bit taken by their life.
-Staff team. If you refer to our Server Techs which is quite obvious, then they are working on a different project which should be finished by the end of this week. It has been a slow process for them due to the fact they didn't have full access and it was a bit back and forth.
-Drama Corner. Well, it is a discussion for serious topics like this one, but it is also a funny place like mumu's case. So it's not exactly right to be anywhere than where it is now. But as I have said before, we do not ignore it and take it as a joke even if it is in Drama corner, but there are as always - exceptions (mumu's case) lol.
-TS3 mess. Actually I've seen some really really popular TS3 servers and they look a lot worse, yet people use them. I don't pay attention to all of these "ranks" I don't really understand why they need so many, but that is their prerogative. About the Archon Clan itself, we will have to wait and see if what we have agreed with comes to benefit to us. About them being bosses etc. They follow the same ts3 rules as everyone else. No one is exempt, so if you have anything re-portable, don't be shy!
!yt, I am waiting for that one too....... Velaxers.... FIX IT! WE NEED IT! :D
-Deadman servers? Just looked it up, didn't know there was such a thing.. lol.
Regards,
Eros
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Pim is right in some points.
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Lets try to talk less but do more.
Thank you:)
I've been doing things for the past 2/3 years, i stopped that because i wouldn't have time anyways. i don't play csgo, nor cs 1.6 at all nowadays. I still believe I have my insight in the community and have never really lost in touch with forums so i'm not that clueless ;).
Hello Pim
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Eros
I pretty much agree with everything you said, honestly. I'm not here to point fingers, it's kind of the reason i took the drama board just because it wouldn't have as much of an 'impact' cus i was ranting on the wrong board or whatever ;)
I believe you adressed every topic, but did not fully adress it. just a mere example, i'm not just talking about server techs, i've heard admins on dd2 just being clueluess on what to do. meaning the head admin has been clueless giving them power without further instruction.
Keep in touch,
Pim
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The DD2 thingy, is under control, or semi under control. Admins can tell you, we have been holding meetings or at least I have, because people cannot attend at the same time. Can you imagine how many times I repeated the same information due to this? lol..... If you check Other Applications board, there is a Server Manager APP.
If you want me to address things fully, you need to mention them to me. I think everything you mentioned I covered. Except as you noted about DD2 Server Manager, which is no one at the moment so you are late :P :P :P
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Hey pim. 2016 says hi too.
Don't really want to append a long post just for a rant, but it seems that deja vu is still happening. Either that the desolation on forums doesn't motivate the current ranks or supposedly like many generations before state behind the scene is a paradise of working and something still happening which I don't need the rebuttal to prove or bother with my time. It could be vacation time and is pretty obvious when nothing is happening contrary to older years where the members themselves kept making something happen without the need for the staff. If the members want to have fun, they will find a way.
I have totally gave up on teamspeak and changed over to discord because of the easiest way to log everything and the permission system that anybody can understand to work with. And best of all it's free and no greedy company want anything in return for the free server(multiple servers) and superb microphone/sound quality. The communities I lurk around are having great time with it instead of renting a teamspeak server and someone to work on the permissions and privileges. You already have even bots on the service that does mostly what the teamspeak ones do.
Now archon...
Thing is, archon members don't see much of ambrosia's members and defacto place them as more important on the teamspeak server. It's not something they want to do it with intention, it's just a natural attitude shift. Same psychology when new members came and oldies gave them a hard trip most of the time.
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!yt, I am waiting for that one too....... Velaxers.... FIX IT! WE NEED IT! :D
You just reminded me of that :D I'll fix it as soon as possible!
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Next is the teamspeak server, it really looks like a mess. There's over 30/40 active ranks or something and really makes my mind go crazy lol, the fuck is this archon btw and why do they talk like they the bosses in town. I'm really sorry to say, but you can really just tell from their nicknames what you're up to and it's a bit funny :P. Also, the best functionallity of the music bot is the youtube thing, people want to randomly join together and show eachother some new songs. It's still broken, really dude?
About the many ranks, there are exactly 29 rank, each of them got their own uses. However, if you think that there is a group that is useless on TeamSpeak I would be glade if people start suggesting things.
About the Archon clan, I already explained what they are here (https://www.ambrosia-servers.com/community/index.php?topic=35522.msg444382#msg444382).
As Eros said they must follow the rules just like everyone else, so if any of them break any rule report him on forum and tag me, or you can just message me.
And about the !yt command for the bot, I'll be working on fixing it starting from now :)
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Only 29 rank for teamspeak server..What did I just read... 8)
About CS:GO, well the problem with them is you shouldn't open the server unfinished. People pops out the server and see, something missing and leaves..
Honestly about MultiArena 1vs1..It's not so easier to populate like it was early days in CS:GO. And that's the fact and those who has launched their server way before has so higher advantage in player base.
But If you wanna get fast players and stable players base. Just open the Surf Server..I opened for example surf server and my server rank go from 4k to 1.9k in couple weeks..Only problem with me with CKsurf is that it eats memory while and then. I have stopped developing them but I still have stable player base and regulars..But I don't think the memory part will be Ambrosia's problem.
If you had gamepanel everything would be done => So much faster and maintaining servers would be also easier. But everyone can talk the other thing is to do the things.
Rocket jump is great addition as server but is the plugin allready stable?
PS. Would be nice to help..But I can't schedule my life with teamspeak meetings..And I mostly hate any meetings hold in TS3..I only use it for gaming.
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Only 29 rank for teamspeak server..What did I just read... 8)
Here are all the ranks on teamspeak (https://i.gyazo.com/f0f09c19d193d36425329afc568a9278.png) If you think any is useless just mention the rank(s) name(s).
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Hi people,
I read almost everything covered in this topic and posts, but im going to talk only about CSGO servers.
1v1
First of all, 1v1 was just plug and play (kinda), it didnt have much thing to do, all the colours pim is talking about were by default. I never had to compile 1v1 plugin, only edit some cvars.
JailBreak
This is the server that took us quite a while to finish (aka pain in the ass). There is so much, but lets start from the beginning. While I was looking for jailbreak plugins, there was only SM Hosties v2, and that barely edited for CSGO (original plugin was for CS:S). With all advanced maps and such a buggy plugin, I had to make some modifications myself.
Not to mention that there was a model bug which took me days to fix.
I still had a lot to do, there were many other plugins such as flashlight, doors, CTBans and many more. With this being said, I was only half way through.
Another thing to be done was football/soccer, there were soccer fields, and to make the matter worse there was a ball aswell. I had to find a way to remove all ball entities (not to mention there were tens of ball entities in some maps) by trying their coordinates 1 by 1 until i found which one was the one I needed. After this I had to install a ball plugin, which by the way was released literally 2-3 days before we started to set up the server. I had to edit ball plugin so It wouldnt crash the server.
Meanwhile I was working on warden aswell, it was a pretty decent plugin with nothing to edit, but I had to implement this plugin into other plugins. For example, make ball only for wardens (as it was only for admins) using warden plugin natives.
Later on, I came across MyJb, which had been released only 2-3 weeks ago, and had had only 2 updates. This plugin had tons of bugs, some I tried to fix myself and for some others I had to notify and wait for the developer to fix them, but after a while it turned out to be a great plugin.
Rocket Jump
This was a new mod which had been released on June, it is in BETA stage, although I never encountered any bugs. This plugin works with cksurf, a modified one, and those two reasons add to the server being in beta stage.
I dont haven anything to say about RJ, it was pretty much between 1v1 and Jb, had to edit some things but cant say it took me a lot of work.
The only reason it wasnt released earlier is that I wasnt able to install and configure maps when I was supposed to, because I had some things to do (IRL)
And about me, I'm not an expert when it comes to CSGO servers, probably setup a server, read and barely create/edit a plugin and some other small things.
As you can see there are suggestion topics in each CSGO server board, and people rarely post there, instead they post useless raging topics.
The only thing I'd appreciate right now (about CSGO servers) are suggestions, everything you think that can help the server boost.
I mean, i havent even configured rates (i did but idk if they are correct or not).
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man the plugin is 100% plug and play but there's so much you can bullshit with. for starters you could add a knife round possibility, perhaps 'monthly specials' where people can put a preference into special rounds like deagle only/scout only or smth like that. People also get pissed off at the pistols at awp round so take these away already (yes that's hardcoded as well) and might wanna take away armor, to avoid hitmarkers
just cus it's plug and play doesn't mean you can't optimize it. there's also a ton of basic settings people usually prefer some changes in. cant remember them all but simple things like augs/sg disabled/enabled, at least there's a choice you haven't thought of yet and others might be bothered by it. Also i don't think the elo system is actually working because i dont believe you hooked it to an sql database
and the maps man, zzzzzz
for the rest i wouldn't know about jb and rocketjump which is why i haven't commented on them. I bear with you on these ;). I wonder where the easy dm server is though. just a basic one might get some players in...?
ps. there's never been suggestions cus there's never been a real decent playerbase. the only playerbase pretty much existed in my friend list and i highly suggest you to do the same. make gathers on the server and find some guys online, contact them and ask around instead of waiting for them to make a forum move :)