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Title: [JB] +grab suggestion
Post by: Jake on October 07, 2015, 11:03:45 pm: Aight boys! Paradn my missspelling! Is very latte and shit is going down up in here!

aiight fam! Shits bout to be suggested up in here! ( Whilest readin this painfully written suggestion please listen to this song :o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQSi33FJZM4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQSi33FJZM4)
^ Best song 2k15161718192021222324252627282930 and 31
Iz' good moosic

Alright Lego! <- Christ browns' thing, ya know? :D

Anyways!

I! Jake! wish for the Hook plugin to be added intoi Jailbreka because iz amazing and yall fokes know it.
Now, hear me out peosple i know ya'll fakin admins will tryna abuse the crap outta that shit but hey, Miss headadminsistrator can prolly make rules 4 itz and shizzle.
YA'll fakalminsitrators wont be abusin it rite? For sho homes!

Now miss headadminfakistrator, You're able to make this happen ofcourse and iof peepoe abuse it we ban, bombom.
Now! Miss headadminfakistrator assisstant added it on the server for a short time and i luved it, Think of the possbilities! The days, The funny ways to punish people and aboiuse the people ofcourse! ( In a non harmful way to give you or anybody advntage )
Title: Re: Jailbreek suggastion in 2011 before obama's presidential candiation banana
Post by: 'PL' on October 08, 2015, 01:29:04 am: Hook plugin?

Like the thing that attracts you to a surface?

Well jake, fun is fun but really....?

Well I can tell ya, if you don't pump out days you thought off, not much support will come for it. I don't have time to remind or blab about why hook plugin as removed in the first place
Title: Re: Jailbreek suggastion in 2011 before obama's presidential candiation banana
Post by: Jake on October 08, 2015, 05:52:13 am: It allows allows you to Grab terrorists~ Move em around.. Etc
Can be rather fun & helpful
Title: Re: Jailbreek suggastion in 2011 before obama's presidential candiation banana
Post by: ~RoN on October 08, 2015, 06:45:28 am: I am looking into it already of what we can do with that for 2 weeks now but right now cant i have some health issue give me a bit more time.
Title: Re: Jailbreek suggastion in 2011 before obama's presidential candiation banana
Post by: HuniePop on October 08, 2015, 06:57:01 am: How about only 1 random prisoner each round to get the hook for escape plans.
And you could add admin command, that gives and removes +hook (with criterias 1 and 0)
Title: Re: Jailbreek suggastion in 2011 before obama's presidential candiation banana
Post by: Jake on October 08, 2015, 07:15:01 am: No! I do not wish for Regular players to get this ability due to it being unfair, If RTD Was added~ this could be an reward, But since RTD Won't be added, I do not think regular players should be able to access this
All i would want in the server is +grab, I don't care about hook.

If the high staff is afraid of us abusing it, Put a strict rule on it & If they fail to obey it, Demote :o Easy as that
If they're unable to follow the rules, They arent admin material and demote them

The idea behinde Grab would be used only for games that require it, If someone breaks a rule, Lift em to the roof & let them hang there~ Telling em what they did wrong ETC.
Used to bringing people in their position ( EXample as a CT, You wish to do a game where they need to be in specific spots but they're stupid and don't listen~ Move em to that spot [ Unless they're trying to rebel ofcourse, Only if they're in a cage & The cagedoor is closed ] To continue the game without anyone having to die
Title: Re: Jailbreek suggastion in 2011 before obama's presidential candiation banana
Post by: Pringles on October 08, 2015, 07:37:40 am: How are prisoners supposed to rebel if you implement this in the Jailbreak server?
Title: Re: Jailbreek suggastion in 2011 before obama's presidential candiation banana
Post by: Jake on October 08, 2015, 09:23:47 am: +grab for admins?

Hence " Put Rules " Admins can't use this to stop people from rebelling, It is only to be used for fun, For admin " bussnies " & Stuff its needed for, Not to become OP asf whilest being ct
Title: Re: Jailbreek suggastion in 2011 before obama's presidential candiation banana
Post by: Critical on October 08, 2015, 09:44:57 am: Quote from: Jake on October 08, 2015, 09:23:47 am
+grab for admins?

Hence " Put Rules " Admins can't use this to stop people from rebelling, It is only to be used for fun, For admin " bussnies " & Stuff its needed for, Not to become OP asf whilest being ct
As alwaysssss Jakes want it for admins... It should be actually for HA+ tbh.
And this hook plugin was used already and got removed cuz of a reason which I don't know.

-1 for this.
Peace.
Title: Re: Jailbreek suggastion in 2011 before obama's presidential candiation banana
Post by: 'PL' on October 08, 2015, 11:11:09 am: Quote from: Critical on October 08, 2015, 09:44:57 am
Quote from: Jake on October 08, 2015, 09:23:47 am
+grab for admins?

Hence " Put Rules " Admins can't use this to stop people from rebelling, It is only to be used for fun, For admin " bussnies " & Stuff its needed for, Not to become OP asf whilest being ct
As alwaysssss Jakes want it for admins... It should be actually for HA+ tbh.
And this hook plugin was used already and got removed cuz of a reason which I don't know.

-1 for this.
Peace.
Because every single admin then abused it, and it was like sami's period where strict and tight policy was everywhere in the server. Even I used it so many times for no reason, and when I was actually trying to experiment with games I got mostly warned and threatened to get suspended. Furthermore Jake puts emphasis for dealing with rulebreakers, that's really masochistic there jake, not only that you have more than enough commands to creatively punish people, but giving the current nature of jailbreak that a lot of rulebreakers can join here and then, you are gonna distract the commander and the whole prisoner team with that hook plugin if you massively use it for the purposes to punish.

And because tony's plugin is currently on the server, all the weapons have unlimited ammunition per reloading. So usage of bullets to highlight positions does the trick than using a hook to move people. They are not chess pawns that you have to actually MOVE them by force. What if they want to rebel and you are using the hook plugin whilst they are rebelling?

And lastly the only good point you made so far is moving people out of the way to not clutter entrances and exits
Title: Re: Jailbreek suggastion in 2011 before obama's presidential candiation banana
Post by: Koray on October 08, 2015, 11:28:13 am: offtopic but,

Song is nice. You gained a like fam.
Title: Re: Jailbreek suggastion in 2011 before obama's presidential candiation banana
Post by: CrimeMiz on October 08, 2015, 11:49:00 am: Eyo Jake I like the hook introduced into jailbreak but not in normal days at all.
How about a Hook freeze tag day to be added as a special day would be really waaaay better and makes everyone able to use it.
Jealousy would flow and more admin applications would be seen if can be used for fun purposes.
If that special day is a really hard thing to happen then make them enabled for a prisoner for a full day if they buy it from the shop.
Imagine Attack on titan and Counter-strike combined. Wew <3
Title: Re: Jailbreek suggastion in 2011 before obama's presidential candiation banana
Post by: BuddyTrollsten on October 08, 2015, 11:51:16 am: It was added and then removed because of abuse.
so no.
Title: Re: Jailbreek suggastion in 2011 before obama's presidential candiation banana
Post by: Jake on October 08, 2015, 01:03:08 pm: Quote from: 'PL' on October 08, 2015, 11:11:09 am
Quote from: Critical on October 08, 2015, 09:44:57 am
Quote from: Jake on October 08, 2015, 09:23:47 am
+grab for admins?

Hence " Put Rules " Admins can't use this to stop people from rebelling, It is only to be used for fun, For admin " bussnies " & Stuff its needed for, Not to become OP asf whilest being ct
As alwaysssss Jakes want it for admins... It should be actually for HA+ tbh.
And this hook plugin was used already and got removed cuz of a reason which I don't know.

-1 for this.
Peace.
Because every single admin then abused it, and it was like sami's period where strict and tight policy was everywhere in the server. Even I used it so many times for no reason, and when I was actually trying to experiment with games I got mostly warned and threatened to get suspended. Furthermore Jake puts emphasis for dealing with rulebreakers, that's really masochistic there jake, not only that you have more than enough commands to creatively punish people, but giving the current nature of jailbreak that a lot of rulebreakers can join here and then, you are gonna distract the commander and the whole prisoner team with that hook plugin if you massively use it for the purposes to punish.

And because tony's plugin is currently on the server, all the weapons have unlimited ammunition per reloading. So usage of bullets to highlight positions does the trick than using a hook to move people. They are not chess pawns that you have to actually MOVE them by force. What if they want to rebel and you are using the hook plugin whilst they are rebelling?

And lastly the only good point you made so far is moving people out of the way to not clutter entrances and exits

Maybe this is why the rule(s) Should be tweeked?
To a point where you are allowed to use it for games/Days
But not to give yourselfs an advantage over anybody else abusing it as an admin to rebel or disturb the day where the " Grab " command isnt needed
Title: Re: Jailbreek suggastion in 2011 before obama's presidential candiation banana
Post by: Pringles on October 08, 2015, 01:19:13 pm: Quote from: Jake on October 08, 2015, 09:23:47 am
+grab for admins?

Hence " Put Rules " Admins can't use this to stop people from rebelling, It is only to be used for fun, For admin " bussnies " & Stuff its needed for, Not to become OP asf whilest being ct

Why should it be used by administrators only? Your job is to manage the server by punishing those who break the rules (by giving them a chance before) and by making it a stable environment.

A system like the one you are suggesting by this thread will only cause more problems and more drama and that's why I believe that this should not be implemented to the Jailbreak server since you are not providing equal entertainment between administrators and players.

I wasn't here when this system was implemented in the Ambrosian Jailbreak server but I have already had the opportunity to undergo it in other servers in the past and in my opinion, systems like this one are just detrimental for the server's entertainment.
Title: Re: Jailbreek suggastion in 2011 before obama's presidential candiation banana
Post by: Red Wolf on October 08, 2015, 01:28:14 pm: Imo , no,
If it would be only for admins, then it would not be fair. If it would be for vip, i dont like pay to win. and if it would be for all, that would cause chaos.
Title: Re: Jailbreek suggastion in 2011 before obama's presidential candiation banana
Post by: Jake on October 08, 2015, 01:32:49 pm: ReFresh, You must not forget this is Jailbreak~ This aint dust2 & Public where the main objective is to behold cheaters and make it playable.

The "Job" is to create fun, Administrate the servers and help people understand Jailbreak, no? ( Ofcourse, With the responsibility to catch cheaters )
You must also not forget how easy it is for poppy/roni to demote someone for abusing it for their own advantage
And also it should only be given the access to Admins because Admins can also give away hook / Grab for Regular players if its needed within a day or a game

If one is admin material, He/she will be aware of the limits on when to use the hook plugin

And do not forget, Admins can give out hook via a command " amx_give_hook (name) " And they've got access to the hook throughout the day unless you withdraw it " amx_take_hook (name) "
So it wouldnt be Unfair~ Admins wont use it unless its in a day/game, Terrorists wont use it unless its in a day/game
Hence, Regular players wont be able to abuse it without an admins observation
Title: Re: Jailbreek suggastion in 2011 before obama's presidential candiation banana
Post by: Red Wolf on October 08, 2015, 02:03:36 pm: Id also like to see this plugin when u get a FD or on some specific SD.
Title: Re: Jailbreek suggastion in 2011 before obama's presidential candiation banana
Post by: Jake on October 08, 2015, 02:18:57 pm: What don't you seem to understand red wolf?
Read the post and my replies from the top before replying..
Title: Re: Jailbreek suggastion in 2011 before obama's presidential candiation banana
Post by: Red Wolf on October 08, 2015, 02:30:35 pm: Quote from: Jake on October 08, 2015, 02:18:57 pm
What don't you seem to understand red wolf?
Read the post and my replies from the top before replying..
What I actually ment is to include it in the plugin, change sma of plugin, or sth like that, not just manually giving it to someone.
And if u remember in NC day, there would be only a random person who would have laser, maybe in another SD (not normal day as u mentioned) someone randomly would have it.
So, again, giving it to admins only is not fair, maybe cvars for HAA+, maybe a menu for CT. But I guess that will take a lot of time to be done. But anyways would be good to add it (as I mentioned above).
Title: Re: Jailbreek suggastion in 2011 before obama's presidential candiation banana
Post by: ~RoN on October 08, 2015, 02:37:14 pm: Give me a very very very good reason to add this in server and after we will talk about it.
Title: Re: Jailbreek suggastion in 2011 before obama's presidential candiation banana
Post by: Jake on October 08, 2015, 02:42:15 pm: Check my post & My replies roni~ No point for me to state it ONCE again
Title: Re: Jailbreek suggastion in 2011 before obama's presidential candiation banana
Post by: Red Wolf on October 08, 2015, 02:45:35 pm: Quote from: ~RoN on October 08, 2015, 02:37:14 pm
Give me a very very very good reason to add this in server and after we will talk about it.
I got one:
FD guy deserves it, waiting cuz u got freekilled and then a simple FD in a small map isnt that much. Or even making it till LR and winning. Its worth adding it for a FD guy, as for special days, It would be good to add it to some of ~em, more fun. For example, reverse HNS (if there is such a day).
Title: Re: Jailbreek suggastion in 2011 before obama's presidential candiation banana
Post by: P o p a y on October 08, 2015, 06:42:05 pm: Quote from: BuddyTrollsten on October 08, 2015, 11:51:16 am
It was added and then removed because of abuse.
so no.

I have the same reason as Buddy. I already told Jake that the plug-in will bring more abuse no matter how many rules I write about it.
BUTTTTT, I said let's hear out some opinions, so after reading a few, sorry Jake I love you, but you know that this plug-in is no good for administration.. :/ :)

Cheers,
Popay
Title: Re: Jailbreek suggastion in 2011 before obama's presidential candiation banana
Post by: Jake on October 08, 2015, 09:09:27 pm: If they abuse it, Demote em! D:
Why restrict something fun / Useful just because admins USED to abuse it

People change, New people in charge & New admins! x-x
Title: Re: Jailbreek suggastion in 2011 before obama's presidential candiation banana
Post by: HuniePop on October 08, 2015, 11:16:14 pm: For real though, I do not support +hook and +grab to be added to the server at all. There is no serious point, use and profit of them.

We should instead once in a while suggest plugins that are actually USEFUL. +hook is nowhere near that.
Title: Re: Jailbreek suggastion in 2011 before obama's presidential candiation banana
Post by: P o p a y on October 09, 2015, 06:36:46 pm: Sorry Jake.

I know that deep in your heart you are aware of the Abuse that will occur after accepting this plug-in. I have to deny it.

Archived. No hate. I only see the best for the server.. :)