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Recruitment & Justice => Staff Complaints & Misconduct => Resolved Staff Complaints => Topic started by: supertomi on June 01, 2015, 11:37:57 am
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Admin: [J]ake
Server: Jailbreak
Date & Time: Some days ago
Complaint: Wallhack!
Other Evidence (screenshots, demos...): http://www.mediafire.com/download/ovhpwcr8t0lpv2v/jake2.dem (http://www.mediafire.com/download/ovhpwcr8t0lpv2v/jake2.dem)
Please watch the demo before judging.
I know that jb_simpson has a vent and its very usual that prisoners hide there, but look how Jake fires exactly at the player.
A normal player would start shooting all over the wall but Jake, hmm... Very suspicious.
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I don't think you can state if jake is wallhack on the basis of only 1 kill. There should be more evidence imo and someone could have told him the position of the afk T on admin chat.
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It's pretty suspicious as he has hacked before, and how his aim goes when he shoots, but this is not enough proof at all.
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It's pretty suspicious as he has hacked before, and how his aim goes when he shoots, but this is not enough proof at all.
best answer comes in handy
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I never watched the demo, but I doubt he will cheat, he learnt his lesson.
But if he is hacking... GG
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I agree, the evidence is not enough but still, its a pretty suspicious moment!
I never watched the demo, but I doubt he will cheat, he learnt his lesson.
But if he is hacking... GG
And thats why i said "Watch the demo before judging"
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I gotta admit, I got quite shocked when i saw the title, assuming i'd be directed to me
If you had shown the demo, lets say.. 30 secounds before i started shooting at the wall, And with me talking? ( i cant hear myself talking for some reason )
I were walking under the place- Hearing him tapping around
You'd also be able to see that i change from m4a1/ak to an m249 to start spraying on the wall .. :o But you only show the part where you'd have the best chance on getting it your way
I told dave " I hear footsteps up there " I enter the shed, and does what the demo shows
I shoot at that point cause i knew the chair/Desk part is shed from being sniped from the Kz, across the map, I hit him once & it showed up 23 damage - So i kept shooting and got a headshot ;o Might have been luck that he was there, Or maybe.. Maybe i do wallhack?! :O
Not to be rude or anything, But no one in their right mind would spend their time, regretting using cheats - Applying for an unban & get accepted, Play around for a month - gain everyones trust, Applying for administrator & Then for to use Wallhack again
& i use steam... Some say you cannot use cheats on steam cs
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I gotta admit, I got quite shocked when i saw the title, assuming i'd be directed to me
If you had shown the demo, lets say.. 30 secounds before i started shooting at the wall, And with me talking? ( i cant hear myself talking for some reason )
I were walking under the place- Hearing him tapping around
You'd also be able to see that i change from m4a1/ak to an m249 to start spraying on the wall .. :o But you only show the part where you'd have the best chance on getting it your way
I told dave " I hear footsteps up there " I enter the shed, and does what the demo shows
I shoot at that point cause i knew the chair/Desk part is shed from being sniped from the Kz, across the map, I hit him once & it showed up 23 damage - So i kept shooting and got a headshot ;o Might have been luck that he was there, Or maybe.. Maybe i do wallhack?! :O
Not to be rude or anything, But no one in their right mind would spend their time, regretting using cheats - Applying for an unban & get accepted, Play around for a month - gain everyones trust, Applying for administrator & Then for to use Wallhack again
& i use steam... Some say you cannot use cheats on steam cs
Thats how i recorded the demo, didn't cut anything from it, this is how it was recorded...
And the guy you killed was polarbear,i can't really proof that but i was spectating him and hes was crouching all the time, so there is no way you heard him, as you say too bad i didn't recorded a bit earlier.
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There infact you're lying ;o Cause i heard him lol
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Ofc you did ;)
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Though i dont play on ambrosia servers since i made my leaving topic,that day i was pretty suspicious of jake using wh.Reason stated below
I was hiding in vent cell,two cts came,fired their m4a1 all over the room but failed.Then jake comes and fires exactly at me.Btw jake how can you hear me?i was crouching all the time i wasnt stabbing/slashing either.
Then in hns day or something one guy was hiding behing deathrun door and jake started ''wallbanging" exactly at him.
Jake has become pretty arrogant after he got admin power.Just saying no hate please.
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Though i dont play on ambrosia servers since i made my leaving topic,that day i was pretty suspicious of jake using wh.Reason stated below
I was hiding in vent cell,two cts came,fired their m4a1 all over the room but failed.Then jake comes and fires exactly at me.Btw jake how can you hear me?i was crouching all the time i wasnt stabbing/slashing either.
Then in hns day or something one guy was hiding behing deathrun door and jake started ''wallbanging" exactly at him.
Jake has become pretty arrogant after he got admin power.Just saying no hate please.
I was gonna say that too but i didn't since i had no proof, badly i started recording after that moment and the demo shows nothing..
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I usually start recording a demo once someone mentions that i wallhack ingame, Just to be on the safe side
And guess what :o I found my demo recorded exacly on the same map / time which yours did
The " Hns on deathrun part " the " Wallhacking in vent " part
All here:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/pa4e3d7d08fv41r/simpson+27052015.dem (http://www.mediafire.com/download/pa4e3d7d08fv41r/simpson+27052015.dem)
Its bout 20 mins long, You'll get to the hns part rather quickly
if you wish to speed it up, type " Playdemo "simpson 27052015" 2 it'll speed it up x2
Or viewdemo & you'll get the demo player menu up too c:
EDIT: After watching the demo myself in normal motion I start shooting at the wall cause maliko is & I am shooting over the entire wall before i shoot where polarbear is c; So ya, Sucks that you didnt recored it all supertomi.
Lucky i did!
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I never watched the demo, but I doubt he will cheat, he learnt his lesson.
But if he is hacking... GG
what kind of reply is this???? bit useless if ya ask me
and tho in the first demo it looked odd. As you can see he provided his own demo which clearly shows there was no additional visual assistance on his side.
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Sorry for offtopic reply-
Id suggest that everyone records a demo whenever he joins the server. For example, type "record daily" whenever you join server or map changes. If sth important has happened, then you can go to your cstrike folder, rename it and upload it. This way you avoid anything unwanted and recording with same name will replace the current demo, so if the demo is useless, it will be replaced.
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I usually start recording a demo once someone mentions that i wallhack ingame, Just to be on the safe side
And guess what :o I found my demo recorded exacly on the same map / time which yours did
The " Hns on deathrun part " the " Wallhacking in vent " part
All here:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/pa4e3d7d08fv41r/simpson+27052015.dem (http://www.mediafire.com/download/pa4e3d7d08fv41r/simpson+27052015.dem)
Its bout 20 mins long, You'll get to the hns part rather quickly
if you wish to speed it up, type " Playdemo "simpson 27052015" 2 it'll speed it up x2
Or viewdemo & you'll get the demo player menu up too c:
EDIT: After watching the demo myself in normal motion I start shooting at the wall cause maliko is & I am shooting over the entire wall before i shoot where polarbear is c; So ya, Sucks that you didnt recored it all supertomi.
Lucky i did!
So kind of you posting that, so i want you to explain me somethings.
I stopped watching after you killed polarbear in the vent.
Anyways, at the beginning of HNS day you and Dave started wallbanging the tree house, but you didn't hit anybody, so then you claim that ladder and pre-aim behind the wall to kill Polarbear, don't tell me it was sound since polart wasn't moving either slashing. How you knew he was there? :O No sound or anything, there is no excuses here!
Lets move on when you killed that guy in deathrun, how you also knew he was there? He didn't made any sound either... wow :O
And most important when you killed Polar at the vent, you said that you said to Dave that you was hearing footsteps, thats quite funny since you didn't told Dave anything, neither on mic neither in admin chat, and i didn't heard polarbear doing anything in there...
gg wp.
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When polarbear is the hut, You look up in cealing and you see a spray :OOOO Half way sticking out ( took the liberty to take a few screenshots for you )
That he sprayed just as i walked under it So yeh, I could hear it
http://prntscr.com/7bur1q (http://prntscr.com/7bur1q)
http://prntscr.com/7burb9 (http://prntscr.com/7burb9)
http://prntscr.com/7burh1 (http://prntscr.com/7burh1)
The guy in the deathrun jumped or walked as we approacted it so i knew he was there, You either need to get a headset Or improve the headset you've got..
And if you'd read my edited post, I started shooting at the vent as soon as maliko started shooting at it & killed polarbear in it
Why are you trying to hard to get me in hatred & Suspision for wallhacking? Aint like ive ever done anything against you..
You're just bringing something bad onto yourself by doin it
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When polarbear is the hut, You look up in cealing and you see a spray :OOOO Half way sticking out ( took the liberty to take a few screenshots for you )
That he sprayed just as i walked under it So yeh, I could hear it
http://prntscr.com/7bur1q (http://prntscr.com/7bur1q)
http://prntscr.com/7burb9 (http://prntscr.com/7burb9)
http://prntscr.com/7burh1 (http://prntscr.com/7burh1)
The guy in the deathrun jumped or walked as we approacted it so i knew he was there, You either need to get a headset Or improve the headset you've got..
And if you'd read my edited post, I started shooting at the vent as soon as maliko started shooting at it & killed polarbear in it
Why are you trying to hard to get me in hatred & Suspision for wallhacking? Aint like ive ever done anything against you..
You're just bringing something bad onto yourself by doin it
So in the 3rd SS it shows that you were still on your way to go there, then why didn't you started shooting with Dave in that place? Instead of shooting all over it and then climbing the ladder and kill him?
Anyways, i said what i had to say, you said what you had to say, lets leave it to the HS now.
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Due to the fact that the floor is wider than the hut itself
Since i didnt hit it he first shots, i most likely were missing
There i take the liberty to save time and climb up to kill him
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I also forgot to say, can you tell me when exactly you said to Dave that you hear footsteps?
And in your first post, you said that you started walking under the place, which in the demo you provided you were just standing to the cage and then started shooting!
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What are you talking about now? O.o
you're shootin random blanks now, lol.
Its all been explain
Let me recap c:
The Polarbear in the hut thing:
When polarbear is the hut, You look up in cealing and you see a spray :OOOO Half way sticking out ( took the liberty to take a few screenshots for you )
That he sprayed just as i walked under it So yeh, I could hear it
http://prntscr.com/7bur1q (http://prntscr.com/7bur1q)
http://prntscr.com/7burb9 (http://prntscr.com/7burb9)
http://prntscr.com/7burh1 (http://prntscr.com/7burh1)
HNS:
All here:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/pa4e3d7d08fv41r/simpson+27052015.dem (http://www.mediafire.com/download/pa4e3d7d08fv41r/simpson+27052015.dem)
Its bout 20 mins long, You'll get to the hns part rather quickly
if you wish to speed it up, type " Playdemo "simpson 27052015" 2 it'll speed it up x2
Or viewdemo & you'll get the demo player menu up too c:
EDIT: After watching the demo myself in normal motion I start shooting at the wall cause maliko is & I am shooting over the entire wall before i shoot where polarbear is c; So ya, Sucks that you didnt recored it all supertomi.
Lucky i did!
Deathrun
The guy in the deathrun jumped or walked as we approacted it so i knew he was there, You either need to get a headset Or improve the headset you've got..
You're trying way too hard
Leave it for the unban panel guys
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I don't know why you guys argue
Supertomi your demo is way to short especially on a mod/map like JB/JBmaps. You can compare that to the "Aim_map". If I record Ray shooting me through boxes, twice through the map I could report him for wallhack cuz it looks very obvious he hits my head all the time when he can't see me. WHILE that's is very easy to do. OR I could start recording Burzum in Public, for example, he has seen the guy get into B side on the left side right?, what I do after is start recording, and look how burzum aims exaclty on the left side of B - which can look very suspicous, but is a common sense, because he saw him go there.
Judging from jake's demo I can only say he's clean. Hide and Seek is the most easiest game on JB, why? You can spam walls until you hit somone and you can see that you hit him. So that's always smart recording yourself, otherwise people might jump into wrong conclusions, which can cause a wronful ban, while you had luck/knowledge that they hide at these places.
Peace
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Were the screenshot taken during gameplay or viewing demo?
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I went back to watch the demo & took the screenshots then
& Don't come with some wierd reason like, Photoshopped..
Waste of your time buddy
Aand take a look at this screenshot
http://prntscr.com/7bv8u2 (http://prntscr.com/7bv8u2)
It took me 10 minutes to repost back, including the time to wait for the post to come, Watching the demo upto that poiint, Opening them in paint & paint the circles..
So no, Not photoshopped [ Incase you didnt get it, You cannot photoshop em that well within 7 minutes or less ]
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I went back to watch the demo & took the screenshots then
& Don't come with some wierd reason like, Photoshopped..
Waste of your time buddy
Aand take a look at this screenshot
http://prntscr.com/7bv8u2 (http://prntscr.com/7bv8u2)
It took me 10 minutes to repost back, including the time to wait for the post to come, Watching the demo upto that poiint, Opening them in paint & paint the circles..
So no, Not photoshopped [ Incase you didnt get it, You cannot photoshop em that well within 7 minutes or less ]
I never said you photoshopped it , or I never even thought of saying that.
I was just asking , why are you acting so arrogantly all of the sudden?
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I am acting arrogant cause you're a troll & knows to post useless crap on anything, Just clearing it up..
Also the fact i am being reported for wallhacking, cool enough
I prove that i aint And yet the kid keeps arguing on it & its pissing me off.
Paradon my french.
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I am acting arrogant cause you're a troll & knows to post useless crap on anything, Just clearing it up..
Also the fact i am being reported for wallhacking, cool enough
I prove that i aint And yet the kid keeps arguing on it & its pissing me off.
Paradon my french.
Useless stuff?
I asked the question for a reason , I got my answer and now I know why something in the SS is like that , that's all I wanted to know but you here think I'm trolling , okay.
-Caught Hacking before *wallhacks
-VAC on steam *Claims to be because of getting hacked , but VAC detects software on PC before banning.
-Cropping out the CAGE from the images , why?
-Bullet impacts look weird.
That's all I'm going to say , I'll refrain from posting here unless it's an important question or something.
GL.
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I said that cause you asked why i was being arrogant & I just had to say it just so i'd save you the trouble INCASE You were going to say it.
My fault judging
and what does the cage have to do with it?
It were all cropped cause its a 1920x1080 picture, i put in the parts where the spray were and lil bit more so people could see, Ill post the full 1920x1080 if its needed?
And how does bullets on impact look wierd? O.o
Go watch the demo buddy, The cage is there for you
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This isn't a wallhack at all, I do that all the time lol.
If you really wanna bust anyone with wallhack, JB isn't the appropriate server, because such wallbangs or EXPECTATIONS are very common, I even do it very often and get accused.
I don't find it suspicious at all, these wallbangs aren't uncommon if you play the map several times.
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I am acting arrogant cause you're a troll & knows to post useless crap on anything, Just clearing it up..
Also the fact i am being reported for wallhacking, cool enough
I prove that i aint And yet the kid keeps arguing on it & its pissing me off.
Paradon my french.
I dont find any of this capable of pissing anyone off, yes you've become a cocky person since u received adminship, as a matter of fact its the things you do and the way you act in the server is what pisses people off
you're calling him a kid, because he's trying to prove his point, he's reporting you, he has the right to speak, u dont have to start raging before a decision was even made.
You're just a trial admin, yet u wana grow wings, i do not advise that, as for the demo, it doesnt show anything.
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I am calling him a kid, Because he is still arguing on abouts me wallhacking after i proved, I aint wallhacking..And it makes me angry due to the reason wherver i go - My wallhacking incident gets brought up - Either if its jokes or not & i accept it, Its cool, it was my mistakeBut if i am going to be reported and have to prove myself everytime someone reports me that i am not wallhacking & Getting in arguments like with supertomi AFTER Proving i am NOT wallhackingit can tend to piss one off that people cannot get in their heads that once proven wrongfully, they still go on abouts discussing exacly what happend just wanna hear it from me instead of watching the demo itself which will explain Everything..
Off-Topic:
I don't see a change of me playin at all, Except that i am trying to be more of an better admin than a friend to everybody
I aint doing nothing wrong as an admin myself, I don't abuse nor do i do things on purpose to make people upset or angry, I don't interupt games/commanders commanding with my mic or anything like that, A occasinally slap people i know will take it as a joke & laugh it off. If they don't like it & they tell me, Neither do i push it further
you don't see me screaming at someone if they break a rule, I pm em & take em back T ( If they're ct ) & i punish lightly ~ I'd want to request one " time " where i've been Cocky thorwards another player..
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I usually start recording a demo once someone mentions that i wallhack ingame, Just to be on the safe side
And guess what :o I found my demo recorded exacly on the same map / time which yours did
The " Hns on deathrun part " the " Wallhacking in vent " part
All here:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/pa4e3d7d08fv41r/simpson+27052015.dem (http://www.mediafire.com/download/pa4e3d7d08fv41r/simpson+27052015.dem)
Its bout 20 mins long, You'll get to the hns part rather quickly
if you wish to speed it up, type " Playdemo "simpson 27052015" 2 it'll speed it up x2
Or viewdemo & you'll get the demo player menu up too c:
EDIT: After watching the demo myself in normal motion I start shooting at the wall cause maliko is & I am shooting over the entire wall before i shoot where polarbear is c; So ya, Sucks that you didnt recored it all supertomi.
Lucky i did!
Just for your information, the wallhack wouldn't show on demos. Its a client-side program, so only the user will see it. Others wont. However, it does show on screenshots.
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Am I seeing that hotheadedness again jakerino?
You know, you can't control it when it goes out of hand...
I will most certainly not watch a demo of just one or three rounds for wallhack accusation on a jailbreak map unless he it's damm obvious.
But jake, you have to acknowledge what I said about your past and following everywhere you go... So buddi has the right to still call you a cheater because you did it one lousy time that's what it takes.
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I'm aware Replica & Im used to it
But what i'm not used to, Nor wishing to get used too is multiple reports flowin in on me, because i ONCE used wallhack..
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Polar, supertomi and buddysmthink, idk what's your prob you 3 but you're just being a provokators. If you ain't skilled enough to wallbang or to exept someone's position, just quit cs. Also, as #wide had mentioned before, jb isn't the apropriate server to use a wh on.
Jake is clear, unless he's dumb enough to wh after his accepted unban req. Gl jake.
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I usually start recording a demo once someone mentions that i wallhack ingame, Just to be on the safe side
And guess what :o I found my demo recorded exacly on the same map / time which yours did
The " Hns on deathrun part " the " Wallhacking in vent " part
All here:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/pa4e3d7d08fv41r/simpson+27052015.dem (http://www.mediafire.com/download/pa4e3d7d08fv41r/simpson+27052015.dem)
Its bout 20 mins long, You'll get to the hns part rather quickly
if you wish to speed it up, type " Playdemo "simpson 27052015" 2 it'll speed it up x2
Or viewdemo & you'll get the demo player menu up too c:
EDIT: After watching the demo myself in normal motion I start shooting at the wall cause maliko is & I am shooting over the entire wall before i shoot where polarbear is c; So ya, Sucks that you didnt recored it all supertomi.
Lucky i did!
Just for your information, the wallhack wouldn't show on demos. Its a client-side program, so only the user will see it. Others wont. However, it does show on screenshots.
That means, if for example he used wallhack but recorded himself, it won't show anything on the demo? Sorry for the offtopic question. I wasn't aware of that lol. I've seen players get unbanned because they had a demo of themself which was clean.
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I usually start recording a demo once someone mentions that i wallhack ingame, Just to be on the safe side
And guess what :o I found my demo recorded exacly on the same map / time which yours did
The " Hns on deathrun part " the " Wallhacking in vent " part
All here:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/pa4e3d7d08fv41r/simpson+27052015.dem (http://www.mediafire.com/download/pa4e3d7d08fv41r/simpson+27052015.dem)
Its bout 20 mins long, You'll get to the hns part rather quickly
if you wish to speed it up, type " Playdemo "simpson 27052015" 2 it'll speed it up x2
Or viewdemo & you'll get the demo player menu up too c:
EDIT: After watching the demo myself in normal motion I start shooting at the wall cause maliko is & I am shooting over the entire wall before i shoot where polarbear is c; So ya, Sucks that you didnt recored it all supertomi.
Lucky i did!
Just for your information, the wallhack wouldn't show on demos. Its a client-side program, so only the user will see it. Others wont. However, it does show on screenshots.
That means, if for example he used wallhack but recorded himself, it won't show anything on the demo? Sorry for the offtopic question. I wasn't aware of that lol. I've seen players get unbanned because they had a demo of themself which was clean.
Source?
Getting unbanned because the player had a demo himself?
Naaaa, that's a different community.
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I usually start recording a demo once someone mentions that i wallhack ingame, Just to be on the safe side
And guess what :o I found my demo recorded exacly on the same map / time which yours did
The " Hns on deathrun part " the " Wallhacking in vent " part
All here:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/pa4e3d7d08fv41r/simpson+27052015.dem (http://www.mediafire.com/download/pa4e3d7d08fv41r/simpson+27052015.dem)
Its bout 20 mins long, You'll get to the hns part rather quickly
if you wish to speed it up, type " Playdemo "simpson 27052015" 2 it'll speed it up x2
Or viewdemo & you'll get the demo player menu up too c:
EDIT: After watching the demo myself in normal motion I start shooting at the wall cause maliko is & I am shooting over the entire wall before i shoot where polarbear is c; So ya, Sucks that you didnt recored it all supertomi.
Lucky i did!
Just for your information, the wallhack wouldn't show on demos. Its a client-side program, so only the user will see it. Others wont. However, it does show on screenshots.
That means, if for example he used wallhack but recorded himself, it won't show anything on the demo? Sorry for the offtopic question. I wasn't aware of that lol. I've seen players get unbanned because they had a demo of themself which was clean.
Source?
Getting unbanned because the player had a demo himself?
Naaaa, that's a different community.
His demo might have shown he's clean - I just wanted to point that I didn't knew that recording, won't record the wallhack too. Because in clanwars etc, they always want you to record yourself ^^
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Recording never shows 3rd party softwares such as wallhack or esp. It can only show aimbot so showing your own demo is pretty useless. Wallbanging doesnt mean person is using wall hack. Demo of supertomi seems fishy but still not enough to show he is wallhacking. It just 1 kill which is done by wallbanging.
Demo is CLEAN for me.
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Recording never shows 3rd party softwares such as wallhack or esp. It can only show aimbot so showing your own demo is pretty useless. Wallbanging doesnt mean person is using wall hack. Demo of supertomi seems fishy but still not enough to show he is wallhacking. It just 1 kill which is done by wallbanging.
Demo is CLEAN for me.
Making a demo yourself does give everybody the privilege to check from your POV. Making it easier for them to spot you're clean. (if you are clean)
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When you have been caught cheating before Jake, even if there's a demo showing 2 seconds of you just standing, you'll still be accused for wallhacking. It does not sound fair, but that's how it's treated nowadays, so chill and defend yourself in a polite way as according to you, you're clean, so you got nothing to lose no matter what he says, do you? You did something very wrong in the past, so don't expect people to forget it easily. As I said, it's not very fair, but that's how it is.
I am acting arrogant cause you're a troll & knows to post useless crap on anything, Just clearing it up..
Also the fact i am being reported for wallhacking, cool enough
I prove that i aint And yet the kid keeps arguing on it & its pissing me off.
Paradon my french.
I dont find any of this capable of pissing anyone off, yes you've become a cocky person since u received adminship, as a matter of fact its the things you do and the way you act in the server is what pisses people off
you're calling him a kid, because he's trying to prove his point, he's reporting you, he has the right to speak, u dont have to start raging before a decision was even made.
You're just a trial admin, yet u wana grow wings, i do not advise that, as for the demo, it doesnt show anything.
I do understand you may not like him for your own reasons, that's reasonable, but as long as you're posting in a report about him being a cheater and not a cocky admin AND posting this without evidence then you'll be warned. And this is for everyone in every report/unban request, don't go off the subject, I've said it many times and I'll say it again, if something's wrong contact the High Staff or conduct a report, throwing accusations in topics is not welcome. I hope you understand.
Now, I'll watch the demo myself and post a final decision on this soon enough. Topic Locked.
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Alright, I deeply apologize for this huge delay, I've been a little busy(and lazy as well, I won't lie to you).
I watched the demo, and I can't really understand how these 2 seconds can prove any kind of cheating. I mean, yes he did shoot in a specific spot, but as mentioned it's a common spot so luck is on your side in such cases. Secondly, the demo does not start from some seconds ago so we can see if there was any sign of ghosting from any player. Last but not least, one cannot easily be caught in 2 seconds unless his hacking method is way too obvious.
Resolved.
For any objections feel free to PM me.