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Title: [DENIED][CS]Unban Request -Toileto (Surf)[Judge:X]
Post by: Toileto on January 08, 2015, 03:53:54 pm
Name: Alliance^Legace:3
SteamID:STEAM_0:0:2111942807
Reason: Wallhack
Date & Time: 4:50 PM 1/8/2015
Admin: Maki
Server:Ambrosia Surf Server
Have you been banned before: No
Screenshot URL (Use tinypic.com):
Other: Where does the SS saves ?




[AMXBans] ===============================================
[AMXBans] You have been banned from this Server by Admin Maki.
[AMXBans] You are permanently banned.
[AMXBans] Banned Nickname: Alliance^Legacy:3
[AMXBans] Reason: 'Wallhack'
[AMXBans] You can complain about your ban @ www.ambrosia-servers.eu (http://www.ambrosia-servers.eu)
[AMXBans] Your SteamID: 'STEAM_0:0:2111942807'
[AMXBans] Your IP: '**********'
[AMXBans] =======================================
Title: Ambrosia Surf Banned
Post by: Big Bob on January 08, 2015, 03:53:54 pm
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Title: Re: Ambrosia Surf Banned
Post by: Maki on January 08, 2015, 04:25:20 pm
 https://www.mediafire.com/?jxqj7cnmicp9l40 (https://www.mediafire.com/?jxqj7cnmicp9l40) Demo

For your screenshot, it's in your cstrike folder, should be named surf_green2000.bmp or something like that I think.

You were scanning through the walls the whole time. I'd recommend admitting to wallhacking to have a lower ban sentence if I were you.
Title: Re: Ambrosia Surf Banned
Post by: Toileto on January 08, 2015, 04:32:45 pm
I cannot find the SS, i don't know why but i think its a problem with my Counter Strike. Also when i record a demo it wont save also. When i try to watch my demo it says :
Demo file completely loaded.
Demo file completely loaded.
Disconnected.
Demo playback stopped.
Automatic connection retry...
Title: Re: Ambrosia Surf Banned
Post by: Pringles on January 08, 2015, 04:37:04 pm

(feel free to remove my post if he manages to post the screenshot)
Title: Re: Ambrosia Surf Banned
Post by: Red Wolf on January 08, 2015, 04:39:40 pm
Quote from: Toileto on January 08, 2015, 04:32:45 pm
I cannot find the SS, i don't know why but i think its a problem with my Counter Strike. Also when i record a demo it wont save also. When i try to watch my demo it says :
Demo file completely loaded.
Demo file completely loaded.
Disconnected.
Demo playback stopped.
Automatic connection retry...
Maybe,
Search for Folder Options in your PC (Startmenu>Search programs and files)>Open Folder Options>View>Hidden Files and Folders>Show hidden files, folders and drives>OK
And then follow video that refresh posted
Title: Re: Ambrosia Surf Banned
Post by: Toileto on January 08, 2015, 04:49:22 pm
Did everything as said but was not able still to find it.
No Screenshot on folder : http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=1183x5k&s=8#.VK6zuivF_XI (http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=1183x5k&s=8#.VK6zuivF_XI)


Maki : You were scanning through the walls the whole time.
Checking + sound :/ can do that but... whatever.

btw; when i try to open those files that are Images it say Photo Viewer doesn't support this file or you don't have the latest updates of photo viewer.
Title: Re: Ambrosia Surf Banned
Post by: Chris on January 08, 2015, 05:06:01 pm
I got demos aswell, but they are similar to Maki his.

You were watching your enemies through the walls, you made it look so obv.
As Maki said you better admit it.
Title: Re: Ambrosia Surf Banned
Post by: 'PL' on January 08, 2015, 05:09:48 pm
The time when maki bans a guy.



What has this world come to.
Title: Re: Ambrosia Surf Banned
Post by: Toileto on January 08, 2015, 05:10:15 pm
Admit to something i didn't do ? I'd rather stay banned than get judged unfairly. At this point i'll just wait for the decision.
Title: Re: Ambrosia Surf Banned
Post by: Cocainee Vendetta on January 08, 2015, 05:15:49 pm
Quote from: Toileto on January 08, 2015, 05:10:15 pm
Admit to something i didn't do ? I'd rather stay banned than get judged unfairly. At this point i'll just wait for the decision.

You won't get judged but this will get denied if you don't post the screenshot. The chances of the screenshot not being there is 1/1,000,000.
Title: Re: Ambrosia Surf Banned
Post by: Maki on January 08, 2015, 05:18:58 pm
We'll see what the verdict is then, weird that you can't find no screenshot though since I'm pretty sure I used the right way of banning, hmm. Also you should be able to watch the demo if it's in your cstrike folder, atleast it works for me. I did use Warzone nonSteam on D3D and I'm not sure if it causes issues for other people to watch on opengl/software mode, I believe it shouldn't though.

Quote from: 'PL' on January 08, 2015, 05:09:48 pm
The time when maki bans a guy.



What has this world come to.
I heard it gave an exciting feeling to ban someone so I wanted to try, turns out that's not the case. Very disappointed, what a waste of my time! Well atleast something good's happening soon, did you hear I won 2 awards? Yeah a full two awards and I'll get them on my profile in the next days to come. Such an uplifting feeling. Oh my goodness.

On another note PL, I miss your voice, wanna talk on ts3? I'm in the mood for some one on one romance.
Title: Re: Ambrosia Surf Banned
Post by: 'PL' on January 08, 2015, 05:22:58 pm
Beat mi oscars pls
Title: Re: Ambrosia Surf Banned
Post by: Toileto on January 08, 2015, 05:27:03 pm
I said it twice, I DO NOT have the screenshot. That's why i will purchase CS from Steam, so i wont occur any problems like this again on this community or any other community.
 
@Maki I couldn't find any CS War Zone Download link. So i downloaded this thing called Long Horn-Counter Strike 1.6-Pro. I am also pretty sure that you used the correct way of ban, but however there is no Screen Shot. I think there is the problem with the Counter Strike itself but it seems like there's no point of what i think. As i said before i will wait for the decision from the Unban panel.
Title: Re: Ambrosia Surf Banned
Post by: Rubix on January 08, 2015, 05:28:45 pm
Demo looks pretty clear in the fact that you were tracing through walls pretty clearly.
SS is just hard evidence of cheats or no cheats, but since you are unable to provide it and judging from the demo i've been sent, it looks pretty conclusive as to that you have indeed been walling.
Title: Re: Ambrosia Surf Banned
Post by: X-KilleR on January 08, 2015, 05:31:05 pm
you have 24 hrs to post your Screen shot, any post like:"i told you i haven't or i can't " will be deleted
Title: Re: Ambrosia Surf Banned
Post by: Toileto on January 08, 2015, 05:40:36 pm
It seems like i the screenshot was there. I did what Red Wolf told me + i did some research for hidden files and i said some comments say the PC needs a restart so i did.
SS : http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=13z5tv4&s=8#.VK7A8ivF_XI (http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=13z5tv4&s=8#.VK7A8ivF_XI)

Please provide more Demos and Proof before you ban someone.
Title: Re: Ambrosia Surf Banned
Post by: Rubix on January 08, 2015, 06:24:11 pm
SS is pretty clean.
Surf_Green tends to be a close quarters map, so it is pretty easy to judge or predict where the enemies are going to be with the right game sense which I, Chris, Koray and other old surfers can do pretty easily.
Apart from this, I still don't understand the tracing through the walls.
It COULD be coincidence, but until I hear other opinions I don't really want to jump to any conclusions as of yet.
Title: Re: Ambrosia Surf Banned
Post by: Toileto on January 08, 2015, 06:42:40 pm
I've been playing surf on different servers for a while now and if you have noticed i always have a different reaction that normal when Surf_green is chosen and its because of that Jail. Those are the mos common places people camp for trapped jail players, anyone that plays surf for a while would now that. However the Admin and Unban Panel would consider this post as Me trying to find a reason of getting Unbaned even the SS is clean, so I will wait for the respond.

Title: Re: Ambrosia Surf Banned
Post by: Maki on January 09, 2015, 01:28:35 am
Checking the demo again, taking into account the lack of clear proof and the fact it could've very well been game knowledge, I'm tempted to ask for you to be unbanned actually. While I do believe there are some key dodgy moments, I also believe that the proof was lacking and map knowledge aswell as sound could eliminate quite a bit of what at the moment I thought was conclusive.

I don't believe a screenshot being clear means anything by the way. It's just an additional way just in case but there are cheats that bypass it.

Anyway, not up to me anymore.
Title: Re: Ambrosia Surf Banned
Post by: PAto.- on January 09, 2015, 01:47:52 am
Demo shows using wallhack so obvious, but since Screenshot is showing nothing. then he should get unbanned.
Title: Re: Ambrosia Surf Banned
Post by: Maki on January 09, 2015, 05:27:55 am
Quote from: PAto.- on January 09, 2015, 01:47:52 am
Demo shows using wallhack so obvious, but since Screenshot is showing nothing. then he should get unbanned.
What? Obviously not, if he's cheating, regardless of the screenshot being clean or not, he should stay banned. There are cheats that prevent screenshot detection and it's in no way a surefire way to catch a cheater, hence why demos are still requested...

Title: Re: Ambrosia Surf Banned
Post by: X-KilleR on January 09, 2015, 09:53:35 am
Toileto Anything to add?
Title: Re: Ambrosia Surf Banned
Post by: PAto.- on January 09, 2015, 11:40:34 am
Quote from: Maki on January 09, 2015, 05:27:55 am
Quote from: PAto.- on January 09, 2015, 01:47:52 am
Demo shows using wallhack so obvious, but since Screenshot is showing nothing. then he should get unbanned.
What? Obviously not, if he's cheating, regardless of the screenshot being clean or not, he should stay banned. There are cheats that prevent screenshot detection and it's in no way a surefire way to catch a cheater, hence why demos are still requested...
yep im not sure about the ss because he was looking down, either he made it off.
Title: Re: Ambrosia Surf Banned
Post by: Toileto on January 09, 2015, 12:13:01 pm
As i said before i did nothing but since its not up to me and the demo shows obvious "wh" ill just wait for the unban panel to decide.
-Cheers
Title: Re: Ambrosia Surf Banned
Post by: SilverQuick on January 09, 2015, 12:20:18 pm
Demo was clean for me besides his ss too.
Title: Re: Ambrosia Surf Banned
Post by: black star on January 09, 2015, 01:14:11 pm
I just wonder what are these black dots http://prntscr.com/5qb3r6 (http://prntscr.com/5qb3r6) ?
Title: Re: Ambrosia Surf Banned
Post by: Toileto on January 09, 2015, 01:18:29 pm
@black star when bullet hits the wall it makes that effect.
Title: Re: Ambrosia Surf Banned
Post by: SilverQuick on January 09, 2015, 01:34:18 pm
Quote from: black star on January 09, 2015, 01:14:11 pm
I just wonder what are these black dots http://prntscr.com/5qb3r6 (http://prntscr.com/5qb3r6) ?
Bullets' effects on objects such as walls, boxes, rocks etc...
Title: Re: Ambrosia Surf Banned
Post by: X-KilleR on January 09, 2015, 03:37:00 pm
@ maki ,terrorists always come from the top and that big "window" in this map?
Title: Re: Ambrosia Surf Banned
Post by: Rubix on January 09, 2015, 03:45:45 pm
I think it's best @Chris and @Koray have some input on the case due to having several years experience on this map.
Title: Re: Ambrosia Surf Banned
Post by: Koray on January 09, 2015, 04:45:34 pm
going to watch the demo now.

EDIT: Watched it.

Alright, After you tried to shoot 'dddddddd' you immediatly looked up and knew there was someone on that position but the thing is he walked on the ramp and you weren't supposed to hear/see him but you still managed to look immediatly there without even seeing him there, quite suspicious isnt it ?

Also when you fell down and walked forward towards the corner you knew that there was someone on there, but the thing is you didnt hear any sounds nor water splashes from the player who was in there.

Obvious wallhack and should stay banned.


Title: Re: Ambrosia Surf Banned
Post by: Toileto on January 09, 2015, 05:29:01 pm
@Koray After shot 'dddddd' just checked there. If I'm going to be banned for "wallhack" even if the SS is crystal clear, might aswell deny this even if there is no GOOD reason such as using wallhack.
~bb.
Title: Re: Ambrosia Surf Banned
Post by: Chris on January 09, 2015, 06:41:30 pm
I'm 100% sure he's Wallhack, Koray said it all.

Maki, Lagger, Bl@ckstar and I were on that time, we all watched him and agreed he had Wallhack.
Too bad he got banned earlier as I wanted to take more evidence.

And that SS, was just bad timing.
Title: Re: Ambrosia Surf Banned
Post by: black star on January 09, 2015, 06:58:27 pm
+ I cant belive u play surf from a long time etc... bcz tbh u are not skilled @ all and u never played good ( exept sometimes I went spec to watch u then u started playing bad ) but this time u did not knew maki was a admin ( maybe ) so he cought u
Title: [CS]Unban Request -Toileto (Surf)[Judge:X]
Post by: X-KilleR on January 09, 2015, 07:09:30 pm
Your case is being reviewed by [X]
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Title: [DENIED][CS]Unban Request -Toileto (Surf)[Judge:X]
Post by: X-KilleR on January 09, 2015, 07:26:18 pm
after watching demos many times ,you were always aiming in the side of the enemy not one time, but all your aim in the demos was pure scanning , SS was just a bad timing.
Player deserve the Ban for WH, following Ambrosia rules this is a direct permanent ban and your request is Denied

You have a chance to re appeal again the 1st of June 2015 01/06/2015

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