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Title: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: Alberto on January 07, 2015, 01:22:29 pm
Hello dear Ambrosians,
Recently 2 muslims killed 12 offices with an ak-47 with no mercy at the scream of the already famous " allah akbar ". This is making that tons of persons around the world statr hating arabic people a lot because of all they are doing (with this i dont mean i hate arabic, this is a real fact).

What do you think about all this? Thank you for reading this, and care your words, it may you think doesnt hurt but it may do for others!  :)
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: 'PL' on January 07, 2015, 01:23:15 pm
Prepare for the sh@tstorm puto.
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: taha on January 07, 2015, 01:31:17 pm
Pretty ****** up , just two weeks ago there a was an extremist who killed two officers in a small city where I live called Joué-Les-Tours , some people also mowed officers and civilians in both cities of Dijon and Nantes... I was at Paris early this morning for my rehab before coming back to my city , and I'm quite lucky I didn't deal with this
...
And people wondering why far rights parties such as Front National are rising . I am pretty sure people like Marine LePen in France and Geert Wilders in nederlands will easily  win the next elections in most european countries ...

Also smiley , there is a difference between arabic and muslim , I for example am part arabic but not muslim. That being said , muslim people are very friendly and peaceful , we should not discriminate them because of some petty retards who can't get satire..
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: Red Wolf on January 07, 2015, 01:32:18 pm
well, tbh those 3 who made that funny thing really deserved a punishment (ofc not death). They knew their opponents, they just ignored them. But I still think that they were many innocent peoples there who dies. Like police officers. I saw the video how a police was killed with no mercy
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: |B|urN on January 07, 2015, 01:34:33 pm
The people who kill innocents belong to no religion. !
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: Alberto on January 07, 2015, 01:44:17 pm
well, tbh those 3 who made that funny thing really deserved a punishment (ofc not death). They knew their opponents, they just ignored them. But I still think that they were many innocent peoples there who dies. Like police officers. I saw the video how a police was killed with no mercy
in my opinion they didnt deserve a punish because we can say what we want, there is something called  freedom of speech and there shouldnt be a punish for do that. It doesnt hurt, just a caricature of the religion, as there are 1 M of christianism, jews and more
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: taha on January 07, 2015, 01:50:00 pm
well, tbh those 3 who made that funny thing really deserved a punishment (ofc not death). They knew their opponents, they just ignored them. But I still think that they were many innocent peoples there who dies. Like police officers. I saw the video how a police was killed with no mercy
Why ?
Why should they be punished ?
Freedom of speech grants them all right to that.
If charlie s hebdo was only attacking muslims , it would be discrimination , but they are making satire of every sect / religious group so ...
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: Red Wolf on January 07, 2015, 01:55:39 pm
Making fun of a community in the most famous media in Frace, maybe not a big punishment, just warning from goverment, like obama did with The Interview (as i said, not death). And they knew exactly with who they were dealing. They kill innocent peoples for fun, imagine peoples who make fun of them.
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: SopRano on January 07, 2015, 01:57:35 pm
You shouldnt judge a religion because of some people in that religion, so lets say some other pple from other religion did what these guys did would u judge their religion ?
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: P o p a y on January 07, 2015, 02:15:19 pm
Just a general information from me:

I used to hate muslims because of the fact which I knew That they are killing all who do not believe in Allah. Throughout my growing years I met so many people who wanted to bring me down in every single way and guess what they were all Christians, however next to me there was one stranger who helped me to get over all of those problems I had, and he was muslim. Then I realized that I cannot divide people by religion but by their deeds.

There are bad and good Muslims, there are bad and good Christians which means there are Bad and Good people, not religions.

All those who hurt other religions just because that someone told them to, those people are immature, do not have own life and I am very sad to see so stupid people who are manipulated by big organisations.

On topic: I don't think the 2 muslims who killed the officers are Muslims. Because people see what they want to see.  No one knows that that all scene can be staged with few sacrifices all for the rich people who want to bring hate into the world..

Cheers,
Popay
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: Rubix on January 07, 2015, 02:24:03 pm
Not muslims, period.
Quran doesnt teach bloodshed and death to those who mock a religion.
It's just another case of radicalasim from ISIS it seems to me, of whom I do not consider muslims either.
Most Muslims are portrayed as savages and murders in the name of Allah, but the Quran and his words are the complete opposite.
It's people like these that tarnish our reputation and make us look like fools in front of the world.
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: PAto.- on January 07, 2015, 02:29:47 pm
Not muslims, period.
Quran doesnt teach bloodshed and death to those who mock a religion.
It's just another case of radicalasim from ISIS it seems to me, of whom I do not consider muslims either.
Most Muslims are portrayed as savages and murders in the name of Allah, but the Quran and his words are the complete opposite.
It's people like these that tarnish our reputation and make us look like fools in front of the world.
Here you got the answer. @thanks rubix.
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: SilverQuick on January 07, 2015, 02:39:26 pm
In fact, these people are agents of other people who hate the Islamic religion and they get financed in order to ruin it and make the world believe that it's a terrorist religion which brings chaos just an example, who was financing the terrorists back then against Russia in Afghanistan? wasn't it the C.I.A? it's like this when countries are in conflicts some use these kind of guys that pretend to be muslims in order to sabotage the other nation and it's known and the people are no longer sleeping.
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: Koray on January 07, 2015, 03:25:13 pm
Not muslims, period.
Quran doesnt teach bloodshed and death to those who mock a religion.
It's just another case of radicalasim from ISIS it seems to me, of whom I do not consider muslims either.
Most Muslims are portrayed as savages and murders in the name of Allah, but the Quran and his words are the complete opposite.
It's people like these that tarnish our reputation and make us look like fools in front of the world.
not even ISIS, just some random retards who're yelling shit without knowing or seraching up. Same bandwagon train as the 'Al Qaeda was the group who attacked on 9/11' my ballz maybe.
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: Siggy on January 07, 2015, 05:27:10 pm
You shouldnt judge a religion because of some people in that religion, so lets say some other pple from other religion did what these guys did would u judge their religion ?
Let me put few reasons

The Qur'an never once speaks of Allah's love for non-Muslims, but it speaks of Allah's cruelty toward and hatred of non-Muslims more than 500 times.

Islam is the only religion that has to retain its membership by threatening to kill anyone who leaves.  This is according to the example set by Muhammad.

Muhammad said in many places that he has been "ordered by Allah to fight men until they testify that there is no god but Allah and that Muhammad is his messenger."  In the last nine years of his life, he ordered no less than 65 military campaigns to do exactly that.

Muhammad inspired his men to war with the basest of motives, using captured loot, sex and a gluttonous paradise as incentives.  He beheaded captives, enslaved children and raped women captured in battle.  Again, Muslims are told to emulate the example of Muhammad.
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: ℓσкαтσя on January 07, 2015, 06:36:06 pm
You shouldnt judge a religion because of some people in that religion, so lets say some other pple from other religion did what these guys did would u judge their religion ?
Let me put few reasons

The Qur'an never once speaks of Allah's love for non-Muslims, but it speaks of Allah's cruelty toward and hatred of non-Muslims more than 500 times.

Islam is the only religion that has to retain its membership by threatening to kill anyone who leaves.  This is according to the example set by Muhammad.

Muhammad said in many places that he has been "ordered by Allah to fight men until they testify that there is no god but Allah and that Muhammad is his messenger."  In the last nine years of his life, he ordered no less than 65 military campaigns to do exactly that.

Muhammad inspired his men to war with the basest of motives, using captured loot, sex and a gluttonous paradise as incentives.  He beheaded captives, enslaved children and raped women captured in battle.  Again, Muslims are told to emulate the example of Muhammad.
Put an example of the Qur'an saying that Allah hates non-Muslims and another one about his cruelty and hate toward non-Muslims. Muhammad has never killed a guy. Only once, to defend himself on a war.
Don't believe what you see on TV. Go out, see it yourself. As Popay said, "people see what they want to see".
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: Red Wolf on January 07, 2015, 06:40:54 pm
I just dont get it, I dont get why this topic is turning into a war. Topic says Whats your opinion, not things to start a war on this. There is a war already.
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: Dr.Richtofen on January 07, 2015, 06:43:21 pm
*Sigh* Oh no! Its the damned Muslims! They're religious extremists, hate them, they'll kill us all! Oh noo~!

(^Sarcasm, in case you don't notice.)

Usual "RELIGION-RELATED" bullshit. People with problems thinking that they are doing good for their religion by murdering others just because they choose to believe in something else. Logic OP.

And that is my Opinion. No hate on anyone besides the bloody morons who need some psychological help. (The people who go out and murder others for no reason).
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: taha on January 07, 2015, 06:43:59 pm
You shouldnt judge a religion because of some people in that religion, so lets say some other pple from other religion did what these guys did would u judge their religion ?
Let me put few reasons

The Qur'an never once speaks of Allah's love for non-Muslims, but it speaks of Allah's cruelty toward and hatred of non-Muslims more than 500 times.

Islam is the only religion that has to retain its membership by threatening to kill anyone who leaves.  This is according to the example set by Muhammad.

Muhammad said in many places that he has been "ordered by Allah to fight men until they testify that there is no god but Allah and that Muhammad is his messenger."  In the last nine years of his life, he ordered no less than 65 military campaigns to do exactly that.

Muhammad inspired his men to war with the basest of motives, using captured loot, sex and a gluttonous paradise as incentives.  He beheaded captives, enslaved children and raped women captured in battle.  Again, Muslims are told to emulate the example of Muhammad.

Now now , I have been living with muslims my whole my life , even my mother is muslim , I can assure you that Islam does not breed any hate and does not call on any violence.
You need to understand the verses of Quran and their context , they were mostly directed against the Kuraichi who were discriminating the muslims and constantly in war with them.
Also Islam was one of the first religion ( in the region at least ) , that set war and peace rules :

"Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for God loveth not transgressors. (The Noble Quran, 2:190)"
"But if the enemy incline towards peace, do thou (also) incline towards peace, and trust in God: for He is One that heareth and knoweth (all things). (The Noble Quran, 8:61)"
"God does not forbid you from showing kindness and dealing justly with those who have not fought you about religion and have not driven you out of your homes. God loves just dealers. (The Noble Quran, 60: 8 )"
"And what is [the matter] with you that you fight not in the cause of Allah and [for] the oppressed among men, women, and children who say, "Our Lord, take us out of this city of oppressive people and appoint for us from Yourself a protector and appoint for us from Yourself a helper?" 4:75 ( Al-nissaa)
"Again and again will those who disbelieve, wish that they had bowed (to God's will) in Islam. Leave them alone, to enjoy (the good things of this life) and to please themselves"(The Noble Quran, 15:2-3)"

Also many many verses , that I can't be arsed to mention here. Coptic egyptians have been living for ages under muslim rule , and both jewish and christian population have been better off under the Caliphate and the Umayyad than under the roman/byzantine rule. You should check the jewish history in Baghdad , and how they held great positions in the Islamic golden age.

Then again I'm not muslim , so I'm not blindly defending my religion , it's just that it is wrong to put have some prejudices based on what you hear in the media or from your environment , you have never lived with muslims and I can tell they are very friendly ( except the extremists of course , but that is the case of all religious nut heads in all religions ) .

Cheers.
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: P o p a y on January 07, 2015, 07:02:59 pm
I just dont get it, I dont get why this topic is turning into a war. Topic says Whats your opinion, not things to start a war on this. There is a war already.

I think you are wrong mate..

I am pretty happy that we are giving our thoughts and opinions about different things MATURELY. I haven't seen any violence/insulting/racism or e.t.c. I hope it stays like that.

Continue with your thoughts and keep it civil. Consider this as a reminder because I seriously do not want to lock this topic. Chit-chat civil :)
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: Kristina' on January 07, 2015, 07:19:51 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_wCkibajr8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_wCkibajr8) , well watching this made me pooped my pants ...Like really no mercy? :(
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: Alberto on January 07, 2015, 07:22:37 pm
In my opinion, they are trying to make us think that muslims are bad. If you  look to the back in the time there were some attacks from muslims but not as much as now (that 2003 attack was all planed by bush you know, at least i think it) and all of them are paid by some countries, I dont know why but they are trying to do this

Anyways this is just conspiracy shit but what i really think is that not all arabics are bad, i never liked to generalize
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: ArKy- on January 07, 2015, 07:52:24 pm
as rubix said ,these are just a bunch of terrorists tarnishing  islam reputation , if you only know what allah and his prophet muhammed (pbuh) preached us you will all love the islam ,humain rights , Universal Declaration of Human Rights created in 1948 , most of the human rights on the Universal Declaration of Human Rights took  from the islam , theese rights created before 20 cuntry . islam said  if anyone slays a human being-unless it be [in punishment] for murder or for spreading corruption on earth-it shall be as though he had slain all mankind; whereas, if anyone saves a life, it shall be as though he had saved the lives of all mankind) islam never said kill anybody because he is not muslim as @Dr.Richtofen said , contrary the islam never force anybody to join the islam or be a muslim ! and about how islam was behaving with non muslims ,  muhammed never ordered to kill non muslim this is what he said :  من قتل معاهداً لم يرح رائحة الجنة وإن ريحها يوجد من مسيرة أربعين عاماً , @smileyface  and everyone please dont ever fall to say that muslims are bad people , and if u remember alberto u told me on facebook before that in every religion there is good and bad people .
Peace
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: Kiricocom on January 07, 2015, 07:57:03 pm
bad bad not good!
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: Blubb on January 07, 2015, 08:59:18 pm
Well, trying to stay ontopic.

This newspaper has already made a lot of caricatures towards Muhammad and also Jesus since 2011. To be honest, as harsh as it sounds, it is their own fault if they are not able to see how "humorless" people can be and most of the people (especially those who were responsible for this) take things like this way too serious.
Actually I am someone who can deal with jokes concerning my religion, but if someone crosses the line I'd tell him straight away. In this case the line was crossed way too much and these are the consequences.

You shouldn't expect everyone to understand things the way you want them to be understood.
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: black star on January 07, 2015, 09:02:39 pm
Well, trying to stay ontopic.

This newspaper has already made a lot of caricatures towards Muhammad and also Jesus since 2011. To be honest, as harsh as it sounds, it is their own fault if they are not able to see how "humorless" people can be and most of the people (especially those who were responsible for this) take things like this way too serious.
Actually I am someone who can deal with jokes concerning my religion, but if someone crosses the line I'd tell him straight away. In this case the line was crossed way too much and these are the consequences.

You shouldn't expect everyone to understand things the way you want them to be understood.
blub ur alive ? :O
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: ArKy- on January 07, 2015, 09:14:53 pm
something should be wrong with this , paris everyone knows that paris is huge city , if u can see the video closely no body on the street + it took from these terrorists 20 min to kill that JOURNALIST how dafuq police didn't come , they should be there at least in 5 min ? ...
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: ℓσкαтσя on January 07, 2015, 10:59:17 pm
Oh yeah.

These terrorists attacked Charlie heboo news paper which was and still is known to attack Islamic religion and it used to make very bad pictures of Mohammad and publish it on their news paper. It was sued on 2007 (I believe) because of insults they are doing towards Muslims and the General Prosecutor dropped the case. At 2011, they started fire in this 'news paper' and burned it and its website was hacked.

Google "Charlie heboo" for more info.


I guess when you poke the bear, you gotta expect its claw. I'm not calling these terrorists a bear, because they aren't.

Also, I'm not surprised that France is getting attacks right after they recognized Palestine as a free and independent country...
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: taha on January 07, 2015, 11:25:45 pm
Oh yeah.

These terrorists attacked Charlie heboo news paper which was and still is known to attack Islamic religion and it used to make very bad pictures of Mohammad and publish it on their news paper. It was sued on 2007 (I believe) because of insults they are doing towards Muslims and the General Prosecutor dropped the case. At 2011, they started fire in this 'news paper' and burned it and its website was hacked.

Google "Charlie heboo" for more info.


I guess when you poke the bear, you gotta expect its claw. I'm not calling these terrorists a bear, because they aren't.

Also, I'm not surprised that France is getting attacks right after they recognized Palestine as a free and independent country...
thing is , Charlie Hebdo is known for attacking all religions , not only Islam..
and what those extremists did , let me tell you , they just ruined 5 million muslim people's lives in France + all the students who came in.
Students will have hard time to get internships , kids will probably get treated badly and people will lose their jobs.
Violence breeds violence and it is sad to see that it is already happening.
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: ℓσкαтσя on January 07, 2015, 11:38:13 pm
Oh yeah.

These terrorists attacked Charlie heboo news paper which was and still is known to attack Islamic religion and it used to make very bad pictures of Mohammad and publish it on their news paper. It was sued on 2007 (I believe) because of insults they are doing towards Muslims and the General Prosecutor dropped the case. At 2011, they started fire in this 'news paper' and burned it and its website was hacked.

Google "Charlie heboo" for more info.


I guess when you poke the bear, you gotta expect its claw. I'm not calling these terrorists a bear, because they aren't.

Also, I'm not surprised that France is getting attacks right after they recognized Palestine as a free and independent country...
thing is , Charlie Hebdo is known for attacking all religions , not only Islam..
and what those extremists did , let me tell you , they just ruined 5 million muslim people's lives in France + all the students who came in.
Students will have hard time to get internships , kids will probably get treated badly and people will lose their jobs.
Violence breeds violence and it is sad to see that it is already happening.
Yes exactly. And I'm for sure not supporting those fuckers either.
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: Legion on January 07, 2015, 11:43:38 pm
Follow the money, then you will find the people responsible for most of the tragic events during the last 200 years.
It is too complex to explain in here. But for those who are interested, there are a lot of good documentaries available.

It will give you a better understanding on geopolitics / media / monetairy system etc etc.


We are Legion
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: 'PL' on January 08, 2015, 12:31:12 am
Follow the money, then you will find the people responsible for most of the tragic events during the last 200 years.
It is too complex to explain in here. But for those who are interested, there are a lot of good documentaries available.

It will give you a better understanding on geopolitics / media / monetairy system etc etc.


We are Legion

I got popcorns out of this corny post.

#nooffense
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: Spaff on January 08, 2015, 01:00:37 am
Oh yeah.

I guess when you poke the bear, you gotta expect its claw. I'm not calling these terrorists a bear, because they aren't.


Putin is bear :^)
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: thEnd on January 08, 2015, 07:08:38 am
I hope police will get them asap but what a shame, death penalty is no more in France.. :(


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_France (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_France)


Its pretty obvious that Anders Breivik was right that he will be recognized as hero in 20 years time, as Europe is getting stumbled under terrorist attacks more and more, immigration laws should change soon. Im not a huge fan of Nigel Farage as I am foreigner living in UK, but I hope that more politicians in Europe would be like him.


My opinion.
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: SopRano on January 08, 2015, 08:00:02 am
You shouldnt judge a religion because of some people in that religion, so lets say some other pple from other religion did what these guys did would u judge their religion ?
Let me put few reasons

The Qur'an never once speaks of Allah's love for non-Muslims, but it speaks of Allah's cruelty toward and hatred of non-Muslims more than 500 times.

Islam is the only religion that has to retain its membership by threatening to kill anyone who leaves.  This is according to the example set by Muhammad.

Muhammad said in many places that he has been "ordered by Allah to fight men until they testify that there is no god but Allah and that Muhammad is his messenger."  In the last nine years of his life, he ordered no less than 65 military campaigns to do exactly that.

Muhammad inspired his men to war with the basest of motives, using captured loot, sex and a gluttonous paradise as incentives.  He beheaded captives, enslaved children and raped women captured in battle.  Again, Muslims are told to emulate the example of Muhammad.

First of all When the muslims fought at the days of prophet Mohammad they fought Quraysh and the reason for that is they kicked them put of there own homes and when they won and re-entered Makkah prophet Mohammad did not kill our touch a non-muslim from Makkah the only thing they wanted is to be back to their home and ask the people kindly to enter Islam and thats what they where doing before getting kicked out of their own city and home.
So it is not them who started the war they did in what they believed peacfully.
And the ones on the newspaper these dont even represent Islam.
And btw didnt u ever think what does Islam mean? Islam means peace.
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: thEnd on January 08, 2015, 10:20:52 am
You shouldnt judge a religion because of some people in that religion, so lets say some other pple from other religion did what these guys did would u judge their religion ?
Let me put few reasons

The Qur'an never once speaks of Allah's love for non-Muslims, but it speaks of Allah's cruelty toward and hatred of non-Muslims more than 500 times.

Islam is the only religion that has to retain its membership by threatening to kill anyone who leaves.  This is according to the example set by Muhammad.

Muhammad said in many places that he has been "ordered by Allah to fight men until they testify that there is no god but Allah and that Muhammad is his messenger."  In the last nine years of his life, he ordered no less than 65 military campaigns to do exactly that.

Muhammad inspired his men to war with the basest of motives, using captured loot, sex and a gluttonous paradise as incentives.  He beheaded captives, enslaved children and raped women captured in battle.  Again, Muslims are told to emulate the example of Muhammad.

First of all When the muslims fought at the days of prophet Mohammad they fought Quraysh and the reason for that is they kicked them put of there own homes and when they won and re-entered Makkah prophet Mohammad did not kill our touch a non-muslim from Makkah the only thing they wanted is to be back to their home and ask the people kindly to enter Islam and thats what they where doing before getting kicked out of their own city and home.
So it is not them who started the war they did in what they believed peacfully.
And the ones on the newspaper these dont even represent Islam.
And btw didnt u ever think what does Islam mean? Islam means peace.


usa kills in the name of money, yeah I agree on that, but in the name of what is this happen?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Islamic_terrorist_attacks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Islamic_terrorist_attacks)
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: SilverQuick on January 08, 2015, 11:17:16 am
usa kills in the name of money, yeah I agree on that, but in the name of what is this happen?
In the name of no one, they represent themselves nothing more.
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: silex™ on January 08, 2015, 11:39:29 am
This aint islam mates,islam is peaceful and it doesnt call for violence or anything.
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: thEnd on January 08, 2015, 12:20:43 pm
usa kills in the name of money, yeah I agree on that, but in the name of what is this happen?
In the name of no one, they represent themselves nothing more.


I bet they said allah akbar....
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: ArKy- on January 08, 2015, 12:31:18 pm
usa kills in the name of money, yeah I agree on that, but in the name of what is this happen?
In the name of no one, they represent themselves nothing more.


I bet they said allah akbar....
indeed ,  but the islam never said kill anybody ! they are just representing themselves not the islam !
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: Blubb on January 08, 2015, 12:39:22 pm
Its pretty obvious that Anders Breivik was right that he will be recognized as hero in 20 years time, as Europe is getting stumbled under terrorist attacks more and more, immigration laws should change soon.

So what do you call the thing Breivik did? Peaceful transmission of his opinion? By killing 77 innocent people, most of them even being teenagers?
Don't you call that terrorism dude?

I guess you are that kind of person who can only think of Islam in connection of terrorism, lol.
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: taha on January 08, 2015, 12:46:54 pm
There was a new attack in France today ...
one in south Paris in which an armed guy with a rifle shot policer offers , one of them died ...
this is getting scary tbh
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: SilverQuick on January 08, 2015, 01:17:37 pm
usa kills in the name of money, yeah I agree on that, but in the name of what is this happen?
In the name of no one, they represent themselves nothing more.


I bet they said allah akbar....
They represent themselves still.
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: thEnd on January 08, 2015, 01:18:27 pm
Its pretty obvious that Anders Breivik was right that he will be recognized as hero in 20 years time, as Europe is getting stumbled under terrorist attacks more and more, immigration laws should change soon.

So what do you call the thing Breivik did? Peaceful transmission of his opinion? By killing 77 innocent people, most of them even being teenagers?
Don't you call that terrorism dude?

I guess you are that kind of person who can only think of Islam in connection of terrorism, lol.


I guess you havent read that I havent said anything much more is he or is he not a terrorist lol..


What he did was stood against massive immigration of Muslims in Norway.. That is the fact that white race is dying aswell as christians/western values.. Now we have 3 major players.. Indians, Chinese and Arabs..
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: Rawrplus on January 08, 2015, 01:37:55 pm
Its pretty obvious that Anders Breivik was right that he will be recognized as hero in 20 years time, as Europe is getting stumbled under terrorist attacks more and more, immigration laws should change soon.

So what do you call the thing Breivik did? Peaceful transmission of his opinion? By killing 77 innocent people, most of them even being teenagers?
Don't you call that terrorism dude?

I guess you are that kind of person who can only think of Islam in connection of terrorism, lol.


I guess you havent read that I havent said anything much more is he or is he not a terrorist lol..


What he did was stood against massive immigration of Muslims in Norway.. That is the fact that white race is dying aswell as christians/western values.. Now we have 3 major players.. Indians, Chinese and Arabs..

Sorry but that is some white race supremacy bullshit*t. Yes it is true the Chinese, Indian and Arabic population is steadily outgrowing the European one, that however doesn't mean that killing innocent people should be seen as some form of heroic deed. He murdered innocent people who had very likely been living a peaceful life and never meant to do any wrongdoings. I understand thinking about the fact that in 200 years we might no longer be the majority may sound at first glance a bit discomforting, but just like we cry out for universal brotherhood I'm in belief there won't be any discrimination from their part once we become the minority. And I mean, it's not like the people of white skin tone will suddenly go extinct. We are all human beings, no matter what color we are and I'm sorry but that's some serious bullocks you spouted over there, because no matter how you try to put it and from which perspective you look at it, murdering innocent people will in my eyes never be viewed as a positive action no matter what the circumstances or intentions are.
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: ℓσкαтσя on January 08, 2015, 01:48:27 pm
usa kills in the name of money, yeah I agree on that, but in the name of what is this happen?
In the name of no one, they represent themselves nothing more.


I bet they said allah akbar....
I can now go to any other country, start killing innocent people and say "Jesus Christ! Jesus Christ.." and people will think that I'm a mad Christian. Allah akbar means "Allah is the greatest" and it has nothing to do with killing or anything.
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: thEnd on January 08, 2015, 02:32:07 pm
Yeah rawr yeah, thats why I said - 20 years from now as now everyone is talking bs just like you scraped my whole post.  :-X


And lokator, it does. Apparently its only followers of Muhammed who are killing people. If not killing then I could show you some "hate preachers" on YouTube These terrorists are getting prepared in camps funded by CIA or Saudi Arabia royal family who knows, but these guys are attending service in mosques where imams are a)supporting terrorism b)not supporting terrorism.


Recent decades has a lot to do with Islam extremism and fundamentalism Im not talking about all Muslims, but individuals who are terrorists and do killings in the name of allah..  You say not? Do you know anything about Christian - Muslim clashes in Egypt and Nigeria where Muslims are mental and offensive, killing Christians and bombing churches? It has nothing to do with allah? [size=78%] [/size]

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/christianattacks.htm (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/christianattacks.htm)

Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: taha on January 08, 2015, 02:41:56 pm
Yeah rawr yeah, thats why I said - 20 years from now as now everyone is talking bs just like you scraped my whole post.  :-X


And lokator, it does. Apparently its only followers of Muhammed who are killing people. If not killing then I could show you some "hate preachers" on YouTube These terrorists are getting prepared in camps funded by CIA or Saudi Arabia royal family who knows, but these guys are attending service in mosques where imams are a)supporting terrorism b)not supporting terrorism.


Recent decades has a lot to do with Islam extremism and fundamentalism Im not talking about all Muslims, but individuals who are terrorists and do killings in the name of allah..  You say not? Do you know anything about Christian - Muslim clashes in Egypt and Nigeria where Muslims are mental and offensive, killing Christians and bombing churches? It has nothing to do with allah? [size=78%] [/size]

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/christianattacks.htm (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/christianattacks.htm)

http://www.thestar.com/news/world/2014/02/24/christian_militiamen_kill_70_muslims_in_central_african_republic.html (http://www.thestar.com/news/world/2014/02/24/christian_militiamen_kill_70_muslims_in_central_african_republic.html)

so what's your point ?
all religions have nut heads...
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: Ray on January 08, 2015, 02:43:11 pm
No muslim needs to apologise for the #charliehebdo massacre. Murderers are the responsible, not the religion itself.
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: thEnd on January 08, 2015, 02:49:04 pm
Yeah rawr yeah, thats why I said - 20 years from now as now everyone is talking bs just like you scraped my whole post.  :-X


And lokator, it does. Apparently its only followers of Muhammed who are killing people. If not killing then I could show you some "hate preachers" on YouTube These terrorists are getting prepared in camps funded by CIA or Saudi Arabia royal family who knows, but these guys are attending service in mosques where imams are a)supporting terrorism b)not supporting terrorism.


Recent decades has a lot to do with Islam extremism and fundamentalism Im not talking about all Muslims, but individuals who are terrorists and do killings in the name of allah..  You say not? Do you know anything about Christian - Muslim clashes in Egypt and Nigeria where Muslims are mental and offensive, killing Christians and bombing churches? It has nothing to do with allah?

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/christianattacks.htm (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/christianattacks.htm)

http://www.thestar.com/news/world/2014/02/24/christian_militiamen_kill_70_muslims_in_central_african_republic.html (http://www.thestar.com/news/world/2014/02/24/christian_militiamen_kill_70_muslims_in_central_african_republic.html)

so what's your point ?
all religions have nut heads...


yeah but last 20 years one particular religion nut heads have taken top spot, dont you agree?
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: Koray on January 08, 2015, 03:03:22 pm
Also, all of this is an inside job.

As you can see on this video on this site you can CLEARLY see that the dude didnt get shot in the head at all.

http://www.conspiracyclub.co/2015/01/07/paris-fake-terrorism/ (http://www.conspiracyclub.co/2015/01/07/paris-fake-terrorism/)

An AK47 bullet from that distance would kill anyone in the head, whereby this dude just cringes up and pretends to be dead, also there isnt any blood at all from where he was shot previously.

I've also seen that the dude who screamed 'Allah Akbar' threw his left hand and his wise finger up, but the thing is you NEVER do it with your left hand, everything in the Islam starts off from the right, also with things like this.

They also found the ID cards of the 'Terrorists' but who in bloody hell would've bring in an ID card when you're about to create an massacre? And how did they end up in France anyway without having any Police/Douane following them from Syria?

One more note, the street was empty. like, theire were no other footpassengers, Byciclists or motor riders, its a street in PARIS one of the most populated cities in France in general but there was no one ? But surely at the end of the street there were lots of shit happening and on in this street, there was nothing.

Also thEnd, please note that you shouldnt reconsider those people as Muslims since we aren't allowed to kill people at all, and as I see there there were some 'Incidents' that happend in Islamic countries aswell (note on Turkey, Pakistan, Somalia, Egypt, Libya, Syria) and just a head up, we muslims aren't allowed to kill our own people, or atleast we aren't allowed to kill at all unless it is for your country/religion wich will make you (how we say it in turkish) 'Sehit' if you die while the war is still going on, and as I see now these people don't have a religion of all, they just mention our religion and start to kill people with knowing that they will make Islam look bad.

I dont know about you guys, but I call this 'incident' a new level of bullshit just to make the Islam look bad again.



Also, for some usefull information and discussions about this:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJYETfEeaSo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJYETfEeaSo#ws) (3hour commentary)
http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy (http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy)

Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: taha on January 08, 2015, 03:11:56 pm
Also, all of this is an inside job.

As you can see on this video on this site you can CLEARLY see that the dude didnt get shot in the head at all.

http://www.conspiracyclub.co/2015/01/07/paris-fake-terrorism/ (http://www.conspiracyclub.co/2015/01/07/paris-fake-terrorism/)

An AK47 bullet from that distance would kill anyone in the head, whereby this dude just cringes up and pretends to be dead, also there isnt any blood at all from where he was shot previously.

I've also seen that the dude who screamed 'Allah Akbar' threw his left hand and his wise finger up, but the thing is you NEVER do it with your left hand, everything in the Islam starts off from the right, also with things like this.

They also found the ID cards of the 'Terrorists' but who in bloody hell would've bring in an ID card when you're about to create an massacre? And how did they end up in France anyway without having any Police/Douane following them from Syria?

One more note, the street was empty. like, theire were no other footpassengers, Byciclists or motor riders, its a street in PARIS one of the most populated cities in France in general but there was no one ? But surely at the end of the street there were lots of shit happening and on in this street, there was nothing.

Also thEnd, please note that you shouldnt reconsider those people as Muslims since we aren't allowed to kill people at all, and as I see there there were some 'Incidents' that happend in Islamic countries aswell (note on Turkey, Pakistan, Somalia, Egypt, Libya, Syria) and just a head up, we muslims aren't allowed to kill our own people, or atleast we aren't allowed to kill at all unless it is for your country/religion wich will make you (how we say it in turkish) 'Sehit' if you die while the war is still going on, and as I see now these people don't have a religion of all, they just mention our religion and start to kill people with knowing that they will make Islam look bad.

I dont know about you guys, but I call this 'incident' a new level of bullshit just to make the Islam look bad again.

He didn't get shot in the head at first lol

Also , he might have done that with his left hand , but doesn't mean anything lol

They are not Syrian lol , they are french , they are french citizens with algerian roots and one already got caught and surrendered in Charleville-Mézières near Belgian borders.

I know the area where the charlie hebdo is , it's in rue nicolas appert , which is not a touristic and populated area , also the video started being recorded after the terrorists killed the 11 people , as you can see they left after killing that cop.

What saddens me is that cop is also musim , called Ahmed Merabet ! Those are the true muslims , defending their country by selflessly sacrificing themselves... RIP.
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: thEnd on January 08, 2015, 03:13:10 pm
Lol koray.. Lee Rigby atack also was "inside job" a while ago, but apparently those guys are getting sentenced..


(http://shannonallenmusic.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/winter-is-coming-meme-generator-brace-yourself-the-conspiracy-theories-are-coming-d1e91f.jpg)
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: Koray on January 08, 2015, 03:24:50 pm
Also, all of this is an inside job.

As you can see on this video on this site you can CLEARLY see that the dude didnt get shot in the head at all.

http://www.conspiracyclub.co/2015/01/07/paris-fake-terrorism/ (http://www.conspiracyclub.co/2015/01/07/paris-fake-terrorism/)

An AK47 bullet from that distance would kill anyone in the head, whereby this dude just cringes up and pretends to be dead, also there isnt any blood at all from where he was shot previously.

I've also seen that the dude who screamed 'Allah Akbar' threw his left hand and his wise finger up, but the thing is you NEVER do it with your left hand, everything in the Islam starts off from the right, also with things like this.

They also found the ID cards of the 'Terrorists' but who in bloody hell would've bring in an ID card when you're about to create an massacre? And how did they end up in France anyway without having any Police/Douane following them from Syria?

One more note, the street was empty. like, theire were no other footpassengers, Byciclists or motor riders, its a street in PARIS one of the most populated cities in France in general but there was no one ? But surely at the end of the street there were lots of shit happening and on in this street, there was nothing.

Also thEnd, please note that you shouldnt reconsider those people as Muslims since we aren't allowed to kill people at all, and as I see there there were some 'Incidents' that happend in Islamic countries aswell (note on Turkey, Pakistan, Somalia, Egypt, Libya, Syria) and just a head up, we muslims aren't allowed to kill our own people, or atleast we aren't allowed to kill at all unless it is for your country/religion wich will make you (how we say it in turkish) 'Sehit' if you die while the war is still going on, and as I see now these people don't have a religion of all, they just mention our religion and start to kill people with knowing that they will make Islam look bad.

I dont know about you guys, but I call this 'incident' a new level of bullshit just to make the Islam look bad again.

He didn't get shot in the head at first lol

Also , he might have done that with his left hand , but doesn't mean anything lol

They are not Syrian lol , they are french , they are french citizens with algerian roots and one already got caught and surrendered in Charleville-Mézières near Belgian borders.

I know the area where the charlie hebdo is , it's in rue nicolas appert , which is not a touristic and populated area , also the video started being recorded after the terrorists killed the 11 people , as you can see they left after killing that cop.

What saddens me is that cop is also musim , called Ahmed Merabet ! Those are the true muslims , defending their country by selflessly sacrificing themselves... RIP.
They were french citizens whom moved from Syria to France without having to worry about anything (apperently) and also, the one who gave his self up, his school friend said he was in class when it happend didnt he ?

They said he got shot in the head after he got shot previously, but as you can see on the video there is NOTHING on his head, not even blood on the ground before he got shot on ?

And it actually does mean something, as an extremist they do know what and how to behave in a situation and what for gesture they should do, but those people were completly off.
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: thEnd on January 08, 2015, 03:32:33 pm
Also, all of this is an inside job.

As you can see on this video on this site you can CLEARLY see that the dude didnt get shot in the head at all.

http://www.conspiracyclub.co/2015/01/07/paris-fake-terrorism/ (http://www.conspiracyclub.co/2015/01/07/paris-fake-terrorism/)

An AK47 bullet from that distance would kill anyone in the head, whereby this dude just cringes up and pretends to be dead, also there isnt any blood at all from where he was shot previously.

I've also seen that the dude who screamed 'Allah Akbar' threw his left hand and his wise finger up, but the thing is you NEVER do it with your left hand, everything in the Islam starts off from the right, also with things like this.

They also found the ID cards of the 'Terrorists' but who in bloody hell would've bring in an ID card when you're about to create an massacre? And how did they end up in France anyway without having any Police/Douane following them from Syria?

One more note, the street was empty. like, theire were no other footpassengers, Byciclists or motor riders, its a street in PARIS one of the most populated cities in France in general but there was no one ? But surely at the end of the street there were lots of shit happening and on in this street, there was nothing.

Also thEnd, please note that you shouldnt reconsider those people as Muslims since we aren't allowed to kill people at all, and as I see there there were some 'Incidents' that happend in Islamic countries aswell (note on Turkey, Pakistan, Somalia, Egypt, Libya, Syria) and just a head up, we muslims aren't allowed to kill our own people, or atleast we aren't allowed to kill at all unless it is for your country/religion wich will make you (how we say it in turkish) 'Sehit' if you die while the war is still going on, and as I see now these people don't have a religion of all, they just mention our religion and start to kill people with knowing that they will make Islam look bad.

I dont know about you guys, but I call this 'incident' a new level of bullshit just to make the Islam look bad again.

He didn't get shot in the head at first lol

Also , he might have done that with his left hand , but doesn't mean anything lol

They are not Syrian lol , they are french , they are french citizens with algerian roots and one already got caught and surrendered in Charleville-Mézières near Belgian borders.

I know the area where the charlie hebdo is , it's in rue nicolas appert , which is not a touristic and populated area , also the video started being recorded after the terrorists killed the 11 people , as you can see they left after killing that cop.

What saddens me is that cop is also musim , called Ahmed Merabet ! Those are the true muslims , defending their country by selflessly sacrificing themselves... RIP.
They were french citizens whom moved from Syria to France without having to worry about anything (apperently) and also, the one who gave his self up, his school friend said he was in class when it happend didnt he ?

They said he got shot in the head after he got shot previously, but as you can see on the video there is NOTHING on his head, not even blood on the ground before he got shot on ?

And it actually does mean something, as an extremist they do know what and how to behave in a situation and what for gesture they should do, but those people were completly off.


koray, you havent seen enuf gore in your life to say there should be blood after that shot...  Best ak kills - look for mexican drug cartel gore and Syria gore, but i warn you,.. you will think differently about human life after watching those video for a while..
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: Koray on January 08, 2015, 03:34:53 pm
Also, all of this is an inside job.

As you can see on this video on this site you can CLEARLY see that the dude didnt get shot in the head at all.

http://www.conspiracyclub.co/2015/01/07/paris-fake-terrorism/ (http://www.conspiracyclub.co/2015/01/07/paris-fake-terrorism/)

An AK47 bullet from that distance would kill anyone in the head, whereby this dude just cringes up and pretends to be dead, also there isnt any blood at all from where he was shot previously.

I've also seen that the dude who screamed 'Allah Akbar' threw his left hand and his wise finger up, but the thing is you NEVER do it with your left hand, everything in the Islam starts off from the right, also with things like this.

They also found the ID cards of the 'Terrorists' but who in bloody hell would've bring in an ID card when you're about to create an massacre? And how did they end up in France anyway without having any Police/Douane following them from Syria?

One more note, the street was empty. like, theire were no other footpassengers, Byciclists or motor riders, its a street in PARIS one of the most populated cities in France in general but there was no one ? But surely at the end of the street there were lots of shit happening and on in this street, there was nothing.

Also thEnd, please note that you shouldnt reconsider those people as Muslims since we aren't allowed to kill people at all, and as I see there there were some 'Incidents' that happend in Islamic countries aswell (note on Turkey, Pakistan, Somalia, Egypt, Libya, Syria) and just a head up, we muslims aren't allowed to kill our own people, or atleast we aren't allowed to kill at all unless it is for your country/religion wich will make you (how we say it in turkish) 'Sehit' if you die while the war is still going on, and as I see now these people don't have a religion of all, they just mention our religion and start to kill people with knowing that they will make Islam look bad.

I dont know about you guys, but I call this 'incident' a new level of bullshit just to make the Islam look bad again.

He didn't get shot in the head at first lol

Also , he might have done that with his left hand , but doesn't mean anything lol

They are not Syrian lol , they are french , they are french citizens with algerian roots and one already got caught and surrendered in Charleville-Mézières near Belgian borders.

I know the area where the charlie hebdo is , it's in rue nicolas appert , which is not a touristic and populated area , also the video started being recorded after the terrorists killed the 11 people , as you can see they left after killing that cop.

What saddens me is that cop is also musim , called Ahmed Merabet ! Those are the true muslims , defending their country by selflessly sacrificing themselves... RIP.
They were french citizens whom moved from Syria to France without having to worry about anything (apperently) and also, the one who gave his self up, his school friend said he was in class when it happend didnt he ?

They said he got shot in the head after he got shot previously, but as you can see on the video there is NOTHING on his head, not even blood on the ground before he got shot on ?

And it actually does mean something, as an extremist they do know what and how to behave in a situation and what for gesture they should do, but those people were completly off.


koray, you havent seen enuf gore in your life to say there should be blood after that shot...  Best ak kills - look for mexican drug cartel gore and Syria gore, but i warn you,.. you will think differently about human life after watching those video for a while..
Trust me, I've seen more shit then I suposed to have.
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: thEnd on January 08, 2015, 03:38:41 pm
Also, all of this is an inside job.

As you can see on this video on this site you can CLEARLY see that the dude didnt get shot in the head at all.

http://www.conspiracyclub.co/2015/01/07/paris-fake-terrorism/ (http://www.conspiracyclub.co/2015/01/07/paris-fake-terrorism/)

An AK47 bullet from that distance would kill anyone in the head, whereby this dude just cringes up and pretends to be dead, also there isnt any blood at all from where he was shot previously.

I've also seen that the dude who screamed 'Allah Akbar' threw his left hand and his wise finger up, but the thing is you NEVER do it with your left hand, everything in the Islam starts off from the right, also with things like this.

They also found the ID cards of the 'Terrorists' but who in bloody hell would've bring in an ID card when you're about to create an massacre? And how did they end up in France anyway without having any Police/Douane following them from Syria?

One more note, the street was empty. like, theire were no other footpassengers, Byciclists or motor riders, its a street in PARIS one of the most populated cities in France in general but there was no one ? But surely at the end of the street there were lots of shit happening and on in this street, there was nothing.

Also thEnd, please note that you shouldnt reconsider those people as Muslims since we aren't allowed to kill people at all, and as I see there there were some 'Incidents' that happend in Islamic countries aswell (note on Turkey, Pakistan, Somalia, Egypt, Libya, Syria) and just a head up, we muslims aren't allowed to kill our own people, or atleast we aren't allowed to kill at all unless it is for your country/religion wich will make you (how we say it in turkish) 'Sehit' if you die while the war is still going on, and as I see now these people don't have a religion of all, they just mention our religion and start to kill people with knowing that they will make Islam look bad.

I dont know about you guys, but I call this 'incident' a new level of bullshit just to make the Islam look bad again.

He didn't get shot in the head at first lol

Also , he might have done that with his left hand , but doesn't mean anything lol

They are not Syrian lol , they are french , they are french citizens with algerian roots and one already got caught and surrendered in Charleville-Mézières near Belgian borders.

I know the area where the charlie hebdo is , it's in rue nicolas appert , which is not a touristic and populated area , also the video started being recorded after the terrorists killed the 11 people , as you can see they left after killing that cop.

What saddens me is that cop is also musim , called Ahmed Merabet ! Those are the true muslims , defending their country by selflessly sacrificing themselves... RIP.
They were french citizens whom moved from Syria to France without having to worry about anything (apperently) and also, the one who gave his self up, his school friend said he was in class when it happend didnt he ?

They said he got shot in the head after he got shot previously, but as you can see on the video there is NOTHING on his head, not even blood on the ground before he got shot on ?

And it actually does mean something, as an extremist they do know what and how to behave in a situation and what for gesture they should do, but those people were completly off.


koray, you havent seen enuf gore in your life to say there should be blood after that shot...  Best ak kills - look for mexican drug cartel gore and Syria gore, but i warn you,.. you will think differently about human life after watching those video for a while..
Trust me, I've seen more shit then I suposed to have.


But trust me, thats not enough!


#2girls1cup
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: Koray on January 08, 2015, 03:47:13 pm
Also, all of this is an inside job.

As you can see on this video on this site you can CLEARLY see that the dude didnt get shot in the head at all.

http://www.conspiracyclub.co/2015/01/07/paris-fake-terrorism/ (http://www.conspiracyclub.co/2015/01/07/paris-fake-terrorism/)

An AK47 bullet from that distance would kill anyone in the head, whereby this dude just cringes up and pretends to be dead, also there isnt any blood at all from where he was shot previously.

I've also seen that the dude who screamed 'Allah Akbar' threw his left hand and his wise finger up, but the thing is you NEVER do it with your left hand, everything in the Islam starts off from the right, also with things like this.

They also found the ID cards of the 'Terrorists' but who in bloody hell would've bring in an ID card when you're about to create an massacre? And how did they end up in France anyway without having any Police/Douane following them from Syria?

One more note, the street was empty. like, theire were no other footpassengers, Byciclists or motor riders, its a street in PARIS one of the most populated cities in France in general but there was no one ? But surely at the end of the street there were lots of shit happening and on in this street, there was nothing.

Also thEnd, please note that you shouldnt reconsider those people as Muslims since we aren't allowed to kill people at all, and as I see there there were some 'Incidents' that happend in Islamic countries aswell (note on Turkey, Pakistan, Somalia, Egypt, Libya, Syria) and just a head up, we muslims aren't allowed to kill our own people, or atleast we aren't allowed to kill at all unless it is for your country/religion wich will make you (how we say it in turkish) 'Sehit' if you die while the war is still going on, and as I see now these people don't have a religion of all, they just mention our religion and start to kill people with knowing that they will make Islam look bad.

I dont know about you guys, but I call this 'incident' a new level of bullshit just to make the Islam look bad again.

He didn't get shot in the head at first lol

Also , he might have done that with his left hand , but doesn't mean anything lol

They are not Syrian lol , they are french , they are french citizens with algerian roots and one already got caught and surrendered in Charleville-Mézières near Belgian borders.

I know the area where the charlie hebdo is , it's in rue nicolas appert , which is not a touristic and populated area , also the video started being recorded after the terrorists killed the 11 people , as you can see they left after killing that cop.

What saddens me is that cop is also musim , called Ahmed Merabet ! Those are the true muslims , defending their country by selflessly sacrificing themselves... RIP.
They were french citizens whom moved from Syria to France without having to worry about anything (apperently) and also, the one who gave his self up, his school friend said he was in class when it happend didnt he ?

They said he got shot in the head after he got shot previously, but as you can see on the video there is NOTHING on his head, not even blood on the ground before he got shot on ?

And it actually does mean something, as an extremist they do know what and how to behave in a situation and what for gesture they should do, but those people were completly off.


koray, you havent seen enuf gore in your life to say there should be blood after that shot...  Best ak kills - look for mexican drug cartel gore and Syria gore, but i warn you,.. you will think differently about human life after watching those video for a while..
Trust me, I've seen more shit then I suposed to have.


But trust me, thats not enough!


#2girls1cup
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Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: Cocainee Vendetta on January 08, 2015, 04:21:50 pm
Not even going into the Religion / Terror debate, but I can see the majority (as always) are being f'd over by the media... A short summary of what happened around the world that day...

Iraq: 83 Killed
Yemen: 38 Killed
Syria: 26 Killed
Afganistan: 18 Killed
Paris: 12 Killed

Anyone heard about them? Cared? Obviously not. Who has posted or even mentioned Syria? Afghanistan? Iraq? Or any other country in the whole world? When more than 3 million have been killed in the last 15 years? No, because no body cares. Because they are Muslims or non-Christian or non-Jewish. Only care about the Jackals whom dressed as Muslims so they can push the "War on Terror aka Islam" upon you.

But of course; "Those bloody Muslims, damn Terrorists", "Al-Qaida", "The Islamic extremists where shouting Allahu Akbar", "Jihadist activists killed 12 in Paris ..."

I can go into much more depth as you wish just mention me and I'll make it worthwhile. I just hope that you have your third eye open and free'd your mind.
 

Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: Dr.Richtofen on January 08, 2015, 04:28:35 pm
Not even going into the Religion / Terror debate, but I can see the majority (as always) are being f'd over by the media... A short summary of what happened around the world that day...

Iraq: 83 Killed
Yemen: 38 Killed
Syria: 26 Killed
Afganistan: 18 Killed
Paris: 12 Killed

Anyone heard about them? Cared? Obviously not. Who has posted or even mentioned Syria? Afghanistan? Iraq? Or any other country in the whole world? When more than 3 million have been killed in the last 15 years? No, because no body cares. Because they are Muslims or non-Christian or non-Jewish. Only care about the Jackals whom dressed as Muslims so they can push the "War on Terror aka Islam" upon you.

But of course; "Those bloody Muslims, damn Terrorists", "Al-Qaida", "The Islamic extremists where shouting Allahu Akbar", "Jihadist activists killed 12 in Paris ..."

I can go into much more depth as you wish just mention me and I'll make it worthwhile. I just hope that you have your third eye open and free'd your mind.
People are dying every second around the whole world because of all sorts of things, disease, age, murder, etc. No one cares about 99% of them.
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: Cocainee Vendetta on January 08, 2015, 04:34:16 pm
People are dying every second around the whole world because of all sorts of things, disease, age, murder, etc. No one cares about 99% of them.

Correct. A dead is only important if the killer is/was a Muslim. This has been the case for the past 20+ years.
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: CoiNNN on January 08, 2015, 04:35:45 pm
ISIS is all treated by countries like America and Turkey,
I am Turkish my self but my president feeds the ISIS,
They shout "Allah Akbar" which means Allah is great, if you believe he's so great why kill those innocent people, when its against the Islamic teaching, even the word "Islam" it self is from a root word of Peace.

ISIS people and these people that kill officers are not Muslims and in Islam it is not tolerated.
America wants an army base at Syria so it is easier to control middle eastern countries.
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: 'PL' on January 08, 2015, 05:18:25 pm
The thing I'm concern about is why is thend ruining my childhood with rule34 popay.
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: Ray on January 08, 2015, 05:28:05 pm
Let's see how this is going, a gamer (thEnd) is sharing his religious opinion to others and those others are taking it into consideration and arguing with him. Let's just remember that everyone has an opinion and it really doesn't need to be true.
This topic is pointless, either you are supporting the #Iamcharlie campaign or not. That does not mean your opinion is true.
I'd stop replying to thEnd here because he's speaking from his personal opinion and personal opinions are unlimited in this world.
Better lock this topic before it turns to a bigger fight.
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: Cocainee Vendetta on January 08, 2015, 06:35:57 pm
The Dictator "Helicopter" Extended Clip Official 2012 [1080 HD] - Sacha Baron Cohen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFCEBWkLwqc#ws)
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: ℓσкαтσя on January 09, 2015, 06:16:47 pm



Blame em.
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: prokiller on January 10, 2015, 01:44:21 am
People are dying every second around the whole world because of all sorts of things, disease, age, murder, etc. No one cares about 99% of them.

Correct. A dead is only important if the killer is/was a Muslim. This has been the case for the past 20+ years.

No, it was a terrorist attack. That's why people care. Name one occasion, where attacker has massacred several people and nobody cared?
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: Rawrplus on January 10, 2015, 01:50:11 am
People are dying every second around the whole world because of all sorts of things, disease, age, murder, etc. No one cares about 99% of them.

Correct. A dead is only important if the killer is/was a Muslim. This has been the case for the past 20+ years.

No, that's plain incorrect.

I understand media may not always cover the full story as it should, but all the mass-murderers were covered no matter what their complexion or religion was - it's stupid to say majority shown was of islamic descent, because media wanted to disrespect islam, it is simply because, like it or not, majority of the terrorist attacks do stem from people of islamic religion. I'm not saying everyone who believes in Islam is a terrorist, but most terrorists simply are of the belief, that's the undeniable truth.

To sum it up with 1 sentence and like it or not, this is the truth, "It's not showing most islamics are terrorists, but it shows most terrorists are islamic." (which honestly u can't deny).
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: DrDrake on January 10, 2015, 02:26:34 am
Actually there was 3 guys. One of them already arrested, later on turned out that the other 2 guys are brothers...
Those muslims were offended by french comics about arabs, so they took out their frustration...which is sort of f*cked up, but killing 12 innocent people will not change anything.

Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: Ovér'Dos£ on January 10, 2015, 02:56:52 am
I want to explain something here
Who started the First World War? Are not Muslims!
Who started the Second World War? Are not Muslims!
Who Killed about 20 million indigenous Australians? Are not Muslims!
Who fired the nuclear bombs in Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Are not Muslims!
Who Killed more than 100 million Indian red in North America? Are not Muslims!
Who Killed more than 50 million Indian red in South America? Are not Muslims!
Who Of enslaved more than 180 million Africans and threw 88% of those who were killed in the Atlantic Ocean? Are not Muslims!
No ofc are Not Muslims!
Who Killed 10,000 children in Palestine without any guilt
Who killed hundreds of thousands of Muslims of Burma
Who crucifixion Muslims in  Andalusia and eat their flesh in brutal inconceivable.
Not what France  has done of Algerian Mujahideen  terrorism ?
Not what America has done in Iraq and Vietnam terrorism ?
Not what Castile has done in Andalusia from the Inquisition terrorism ?
Not what the Crusaders has done in Jerusalem terrorism ?
Not what is happening to Muslims in the Central African terrorism ?
Not what is happening to Muslims in Myanmar terrorism ?

In many people's belief that Islam=violent NoNo  Do not listen to what they say, Read for yourself what are the pillars of Islam im sure you will understand that Absolutely nothing is calling for violence in Islam
Unfortunately, anything happened they attribute to Muslims


Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: silex™ on January 10, 2015, 09:49:24 am
The real slamists not the fake ones have never offended the other religions or attacked a churche or something coz they respect them and the others should respect that coz many times mosques got sabotaged in europe .
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: Spaff on January 10, 2015, 11:27:16 am
I want to explain something here
Who started the First World War? Are not Muslims!
Who started the Second World War? Are not Muslims!
Who Killed about 20 million indigenous Australians? Are not Muslims!
Who fired the nuclear bombs in Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Are not Muslims!
Who Killed more than 100 million Indian red in North America? Are not Muslims!
Who Killed more than 50 million Indian red in South America? Are not Muslims!
Who Of enslaved more than 180 million Africans and threw 88% of those who were killed in the Atlantic Ocean? Are not Muslims!
No ofc are Not Muslims!
Who Killed 10,000 children in Palestine without any guilt
Who killed hundreds of thousands of Muslims of Burma
Who crucifixion Muslims in  Andalusia and eat their flesh in brutal inconceivable.
Not what France  has done of Algerian Mujahideen  terrorism ?
Not what America has done in Iraq and Vietnam terrorism ?
Not what Castile has done in Andalusia from the Inquisition terrorism ?
Not what the Crusaders has done in Jerusalem terrorism ?
Not what is happening to Muslims in the Central African terrorism ?
Not what is happening to Muslims in Myanmar terrorism ?

In many people's belief that Islam=violent NoNo  Do not listen to what they say, Read for yourself what are the pillars of Islam im sure you will understand that Absolutely nothing is calling for violence in Islam
Unfortunately, anything happened they attribute to Muslims

These things obviously happened in 2000.

The whole world changed in 50-80 years already. Dunno why you are bringing these things up. lol
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: ℓσкαтσя on January 10, 2015, 01:05:38 pm
I want to explain something here
Who started the First World War? Are not Muslims!
Who started the Second World War? Are not Muslims!
Who Killed about 20 million indigenous Australians? Are not Muslims!
Who fired the nuclear bombs in Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Are not Muslims!
Who Killed more than 100 million Indian red in North America? Are not Muslims!
Who Killed more than 50 million Indian red in South America? Are not Muslims!
Who Of enslaved more than 180 million Africans and threw 88% of those who were killed in the Atlantic Ocean? Are not Muslims!
No ofc are Not Muslims!
Who Killed 10,000 children in Palestine without any guilt
Who killed hundreds of thousands of Muslims of Burma
Who crucifixion Muslims in  Andalusia and eat their flesh in brutal inconceivable.
Not what France  has done of Algerian Mujahideen  terrorism ?
Not what America has done in Iraq and Vietnam terrorism ?
Not what Castile has done in Andalusia from the Inquisition terrorism ?
Not what the Crusaders has done in Jerusalem terrorism ?
Not what is happening to Muslims in the Central African terrorism ?
Not what is happening to Muslims in Myanmar terrorism ?

In many people's belief that Islam=violent NoNo  Do not listen to what they say, Read for yourself what are the pillars of Islam im sure you will understand that Absolutely nothing is calling for violence in Islam
Unfortunately, anything happened they attribute to Muslims

These things obviously happened in 2000.

The whole world changed in 50-80 years already. Dunno why you are bringing these things up. lol
Changed?? Have you seen what Israel did to Gaza the paste 8 years? Have you seen what is 'Burmaian' people doing to Muslims in their country?

Yeah they did change.. to a so much worse condition.
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: Spaff on January 10, 2015, 01:09:55 pm
I want to explain something here
Who started the First World War? Are not Muslims!
Who started the Second World War? Are not Muslims!
Who Killed about 20 million indigenous Australians? Are not Muslims!
Who fired the nuclear bombs in Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Are not Muslims!
Who Killed more than 100 million Indian red in North America? Are not Muslims!
Who Killed more than 50 million Indian red in South America? Are not Muslims!
Who Of enslaved more than 180 million Africans and threw 88% of those who were killed in the Atlantic Ocean? Are not Muslims!
No ofc are Not Muslims!
Who Killed 10,000 children in Palestine without any guilt
Who killed hundreds of thousands of Muslims of Burma
Who crucifixion Muslims in  Andalusia and eat their flesh in brutal inconceivable.
Not what France  has done of Algerian Mujahideen  terrorism ?
Not what America has done in Iraq and Vietnam terrorism ?
Not what Castile has done in Andalusia from the Inquisition terrorism ?
Not what the Crusaders has done in Jerusalem terrorism ?
Not what is happening to Muslims in the Central African terrorism ?
Not what is happening to Muslims in Myanmar terrorism ?

In many people's belief that Islam=violent NoNo  Do not listen to what they say, Read for yourself what are the pillars of Islam im sure you will understand that Absolutely nothing is calling for violence in Islam
Unfortunately, anything happened they attribute to Muslims

These things obviously happened in 2000.

The whole world changed in 50-80 years already. Dunno why you are bringing these things up. lol
Changed?? Have you seen what Israel did to Gaza the paste 8 years? Have you seen what is 'Burmaian' people doing to Muslims in their country?

Yeah they did change.. to a so much worse condition.

ok. Sorry for not following you muslims and what is happening with u :(. wanted to say something cool but :(.
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: thEnd on January 10, 2015, 01:23:41 pm
Let's see how this is going, a gamer (thEnd) is sharing his religious opinion to others and those others are taking it into consideration and arguing with him. Let's just remember that everyone has an opinion and it really doesn't need to be true.
This topic is pointless, either you are supporting the #Iamcharlie campaign or not. That does not mean your opinion is true.
I'd stop replying to thEnd here because he's speaking from his personal opinion and personal opinions are unlimited in this world.
Better lock this topic before it turns to a bigger fight.

No one cares what you say.. Go back to your hydra.
I wonder why does anyone bring up crusaders here lol.. As spaf correctly have said - a lot has changed recently, and there is not any crusades anymore, but there is groups of extremists who are planning much more massacres in Europe.. I wonder, but even Hezbollah leader has condemned these attacks.. And right thing he says that these individuals who are following "takfiri" ideology are not representing Islam.. But somehow they do, as they are not reading the bible, but quaran. They are not shouting "God is great" but Allah is great. They are not going for revenge of Jesus honor but Mohamed's.. You know you can't deny that..and these individuals are many.. And the next time I will be in London, I will be a bit islamafobic indeed, as london might be the next place and I'm often close to St Pancras and other places where the bloody massacre could take a place.. And yeah, I will look after my back suspiciously of I will see musulims.. But it's reallity, and only mmusulims can deal with these extremists.. Instead of calling everything as false flag op, inside job, Mossad and cia co op, think realistic and fight much more than just say how sorry you are for the victims.. Ppl will forget Charlie, but Al Qaida will get new and new followers who will belive that they are true mmusulims..
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: almighty DomiNic on January 10, 2015, 01:24:42 pm
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/11335676/Hacktivists-Anonymous-says-it-will-avenge-Charlie-Hebdo-attacks-by-shutting-down-jihadist-websites.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/11335676/Hacktivists-Anonymous-says-it-will-avenge-Charlie-Hebdo-attacks-by-shutting-down-jihadist-websites.html)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=064QkrMATW8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=064QkrMATW8)

RIPERINO
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: thEnd on January 10, 2015, 01:26:57 pm
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/11335676/Hacktivists-Anonymous-says-it-will-avenge-Charlie-Hebdo-attacks-by-shutting-down-jihadist-websites.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/11335676/Hacktivists-Anonymous-says-it-will-avenge-Charlie-Hebdo-attacks-by-shutting-down-jihadist-websites.html)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=064QkrMATW8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=064QkrMATW8)

RIPERINO

They use - tangodown not riperino, and I think play with RIP in this topic is not wise...
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: Fisu on January 10, 2015, 05:24:36 pm
http://mic.com/articles/107988/the-hero-of-the-charlie-hebdo-shooting-we-re-overlooking (http://mic.com/articles/107988/the-hero-of-the-charlie-hebdo-shooting-we-re-overlooking)
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: Cocainee Vendetta on January 10, 2015, 05:27:49 pm
No, that's plain incorrect.

I understand media may not always cover the full story as it should, but all the mass-murderers were covered no matter what their complexion or religion was - it's stupid to say majority shown was of islamic descent, because media wanted to disrespect islam, it is simply because, like it or not, majority of the terrorist attacks do stem from people of islamic religion. I'm not saying everyone who believes in Islam is a terrorist, but most terrorists simply are of the belief, that's the undeniable truth.

To sum it up with 1 sentence and like it or not, this is the truth, "It's not showing most islamics are terrorists, but it shows most terrorists are islamic." (which honestly u can't deny).

You guys remember Norway 2011? Anders Behring Breivik? Killed 77 people? Ring a bell !? He was a Christian.

Now please show me one bit of document mentioning "Christian Extremest", "A Christian man...", "The terrorist was shouting "may jesus christ be praised"". Or a post here in Ambrosia, a member relating Christianity and they guy/terrorism. I will be waiting...
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: Rawrplus on January 10, 2015, 05:40:31 pm
No, that's plain incorrect.

I understand media may not always cover the full story as it should, but all the mass-murderers were covered no matter what their complexion or religion was - it's stupid to say majority shown was of islamic descent, because media wanted to disrespect islam, it is simply because, like it or not, majority of the terrorist attacks do stem from people of islamic religion. I'm not saying everyone who believes in Islam is a terrorist, but most terrorists simply are of the belief, that's the undeniable truth.

To sum it up with 1 sentence and like it or not, this is the truth, "It's not showing most islamics are terrorists, but it shows most terrorists are islamic." (which honestly u can't deny).

You guys remember Norway 2011? Anders Behring Breivik? Killed 77 people? Ring a bell !? He was a Christian.

Now please show me one bit of document mentioning "Christian Extremest", "A Christian man...", "The terrorist was shouting "may jesus christ be praised"". Or a post here in Ambrosia, a member relating Christianity and they guy/terrorism. I will be waiting...

You know why there was no mention of Christianity? Because there was no motive of Christianity behind his mass-murder.

The inspiration behind the attack of those two, although not Islam in it's pure form, was Islam nonetheless.

See the difference?
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: Cocainee Vendetta on January 10, 2015, 05:54:43 pm
You know why there was no mention of Christianity? Because there was no motive of Christianity behind his mass-murder.

The inspiration behind the attack of those two, although not Islam in it's pure form, was Islam nonetheless.

See the difference?

No I don't actually. From what I understood, you/people think Islam orders to kill. If so, Allah/God whatever you want to call it says in the Qur'an;

"Killing one man, is like killing the whole humanity". But of course, there are conditions which killing is allowed (common-sense) i.e. Wars(Holy Wars), Vendetta, Protection... But this is the case for every religion. Someone tries to kill you and if the only way to stop them is killing them, then so be it.

People, even some Muslims themselves DO NOT KNOW ISLAM. So my objection is like always, stop (speaking generally) reasoning Islam behind every "terror" attack done by a guy with a beard.
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: Pim on January 10, 2015, 06:02:50 pm
I don't think Rawr ever mentioned the Islam orders to kill however, an attack that same day (not sure if it was this one) was claimed by Al qauida with islamic reasoning. Not to mention when they started shooting the were shouting Allah Akbar! The attack has a religic background whatsoever.

'The christian attack' never had any religion background when it came down to it, therefore that is the reason christian was never named in the head title.


At least, that's my thoughts behind this
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: Rawrplus on January 10, 2015, 06:05:21 pm
Please re-read my post.

I never said Islam is ordering to kill anybody or even source of all terrorism and I think it's a stupid generalization that is unfair towards Islam, but on the other hand you can't deny majority of the attacks do indeed from people with wrong interpretation and strong naivety towards Islam.

One thing is accusation and other is keeping up with actual numbers.

And I'm sorry, but if you claim that the reasoning behind their mass-murdering is not Islam, then you are in a bit of a denial. I'm not saying that's what Islam is about, but it was the motivation behind the attack, there's no denying to that.

Also, read Pim's reply

I don't think Rawr ever mentioned the Islam orders to kill however, an attack that same day (not sure if it was this one) was claimed by Al qauida with islamic reasoning. Not to mention when they started shooting the were shouting Allah Akbar! The attack has a religic background whatsoever.

'The christian attack' never had any religion background when it came down to it, therefore that is the reason christian was never named in the head title.


At least, that's my thoughts behind this
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: Cocainee Vendetta on January 10, 2015, 06:10:20 pm
I understood both of your posts. I did say, "you/people" & "Speaking generally" so how about both of you re-read my post :D

Even if it has nothing to do with religion, a Muslim guy does something bad, Islam is blamed. If the guy is a Christian, Jew or something else, it has nothing to do with religion or in fact like Anders Behring Breivik, they did it because of sanity.

That's how it is. That is what I am objecting against. I haven't given any names with my posts.
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: Fisu on January 11, 2015, 02:34:00 am
'The christian attack' never had any religion background when it came down to it, therefore that is the reason christian was never named in the head title.

I think you just told yourself that the media is screwd up didn't you? :) (When Muslims do terror (ISLAM TERRORISME CNN) if Christians do Terror ( "There was an Attack")

It's like: US Army bombs islamic states, no one bothers, binladen tries to tell US that they do not give up so fast, 9/11 happens, each single muslim is blamed. Well gege.

"A swiss in my work calls us: Ticking bomb, all act nice one day all will blow up each city" LOL
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: Pim on January 11, 2015, 12:14:46 pm
'The christian attack' never had any religion background when it came down to it, therefore that is the reason christian was never named in the head title.

I think you just told yourself that the media is screwd up didn't you? :) (When Muslims do terror (ISLAM TERRORISME CNN) if Christians do Terror ( "There was an Attack")

It's like: US Army bombs islamic states, no one bothers, binladen tries to tell US that they do not give up so fast, 9/11 happens, each single muslim is blamed. Well gege.

"A swiss in my work calls us: Ticking bomb, all act nice one day all will blow up each city" LOL

The difference between those is: The guy happened to be christian, just like someone happens to be jewish or an atheïst. They did what they did because they are simply ****** up.

With these current attacks: They also happen to be muslim. The difference however is, most of the time they did what they did because of religious reasons.

If a christian kills 20 muslims: head title will be: christian kills 20 muslims.
If a christian kills 20 people: ****** up insane dude went full retard
So why the difference? Both situations a christian kills 20 people. It is because of his intention to do so, whereas in one situation he did it because of religious reasons (and being fucked up) and in the other he did what he did because he simply is: fucked up

This is not media being ****** up, this is just using what is actually important to the subject and leaving things out what is not.

Also, that guy at work is simply retarded. Would also be a generalisation to think every white boy thinks like that. A percentage of people are simply retarded. I have always said i petty the actual muslims because what IS and Al Qaida shows us, is not the true religion. It would be too big of a generalisation to say all muslims are like that however, terrorist attacks lately have a high percentage of muslim involvement.
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: Gikki on January 11, 2015, 03:28:51 pm
Who said Islamic state and al qaida don't do what islam really tells them to do
When the usa is bombing them with their f-16 they kill hundreds of them.
But if Islamic state kills an American soldier they are the terrorist
Who came up first killing the other side simple answer us and its allies
So suddenly if someone fought back defending their self or what they believe vs some one who is already bombing them is called terrorism
You came to our land and started it
We will be at your land coming for you
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: SilverQuick on January 11, 2015, 04:18:02 pm
Who said Islamic state and al qaida don't do what islam really tells them to do
When the usa is bombing them with their f-16 they kill hundreds of them.
But if Islamic state kills an American soldier they are the terrorist
Who came up first killing the other side simple answer us and its allies
So suddenly if someone fought back defending their self or what they believe vs some one who is already bombing them is called terrorism
You came to our land and started it
We will be at your land coming for you
It's not the same those who kill innocent defenceless people are cowards and considered as terrorists like they did with Charlie Hebdo magazine pretending to defend the prophet because they drew his face, but the problem they kill in the name of the Islamic religion like Islam tell people to kill other people just like that and without any reason, we deny this act of murder and so as the Islamic religion since these guys had their brain washed by some other extremists whom their mission is to tarnish the religion's reputation, but they wont because the whole world know that they don't have anything to do with Islam and they don't make difference between a Muslim or a Christian or a Jew because they have their brain washed and in the crime scene in Paris the officer who was trying to defend Stefan Sharb who was one of the members of Charlie Hebdo's magazine was a Muslim and they got him killed with cold blood and his name was Ahmed Mrabat and everyone saw the knockout on ground.
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: taha on January 11, 2015, 04:47:24 pm
Who said Islamic state and al qaida don't do what islam really tells them to do
When the usa is bombing them with their f-16 they kill hundreds of them.
But if Islamic state kills an American soldier they are the terrorist
Who came up first killing the other side simple answer us and its allies
So suddenly if someone fought back defending their self or what they believe vs some one who is already bombing them is called terrorism
You came to our land and started it
We will be at your land coming for you

If you are endorsing these kind of attacks , sorry to tell you but you are a sick twisted person.
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: Fisu on January 11, 2015, 05:10:58 pm
Who said Islamic state and al qaida don't do what islam really tells them to do
When the usa is bombing them with their f-16 they kill hundreds of them.
But if Islamic state kills an American soldier they are the terrorist
Who came up first killing the other side simple answer us and its allies
So suddenly if someone fought back defending their self or what they believe vs some one who is already bombing them is called terrorism
You came to our land and started it
We will be at your land coming for you

If you are endorsing these kind of attacks , sorry to tell you but you are a sick twisted person.

I think he actually doesn't really care that the US for example was terrified after 9/11, simply cuz probably his grandgrandfathers has been killed by the US army and many more of his country, just like that. He might believe the terrorists are the US (Which I agree on, in a few cases) yet the "Paying back like that" ain't the solution. Anyway,
Title: Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
Post by: P o p a y on January 11, 2015, 05:33:13 pm
It was a nice topic.. It was.. We had a good chat until someones are "tough" with words or as I say Internet warriors.

It was only for discussion no personal stuff but, thats it.. :)

Locked.

May all innocent killed people (no matter of religion) rest in peace..  :(