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Title: [CS 1.6]Unban Request -(dd2)[duffman][UNBAN PANEL]
Post by: duffman on December 29, 2014, 06:20:54 pm
Hey here goes nothing :D. I think I got banned wrongly more then 1 time in the past without evidence. And when there was evidence the demo was often examined  by people who don't understand the game good enough.

SteamID:STEAM_0:0:3187685'
Reason: so called cheats
Date & Time:some years back
Admin:hyss
Server:d2
Have you been banned before:few 100 times
Screenshot URL (Use tinypic.com):none
Other:none


AMXBans] Je bent verbannen van deze server door Beheerder Hyss.
[AMXBans] Je bent permanent verbannen.
[AMXBans] Verbannen Gebruikersnaam: duffman oh yeah!
[AMXBans] Reden: ''
[AMXBans] Je kan klagen over je verbanning op www.ambrosia-servers.eu (http://www.ambrosia-servers.eu)
[AMXBans] Jouw SteamID: 'STEAM_0:0:3187685'
Title: unban request part 2
Post by: Big Bob on December 29, 2014, 06:20:54 pm
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Title: Re: unban request part 2
Post by: X-KilleR on December 29, 2014, 06:23:44 pm
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Title: Re: unban request part 2
Post by: 'PL' on December 29, 2014, 06:30:14 pm
I want to see the demo again :3
Title: Re: unban request part 2
Post by: Legion on December 29, 2014, 06:41:55 pm
Hello,

Support +1

I have played a lot with duffman (clanwars/public/gathers/mixxes).
I have played this game for more then 10 years and its save to say that he is 1 of the better player out there.

He plays on Experience/Intelligence/Sound.

I do not believe there has ever been evidence that he cheated. The only thing what can keep duffman banned = duffman himself.
He can be stubborn at times, which can result in not caring and not making an unban app right away (and using the correct form ;)

But due to the fact that CS is mostly played by 15-25 year olds, you need to take in account that because of that, the experience level can be low at times. So I urge everyone to keep calm, follow the rules and keep making unban apps right away :)

Legion





Title: Re: unban request part 2
Post by: BunjEE on December 29, 2014, 06:45:49 pm
Well, hope this works. I support for this lads unban becuase I've playd with him for a long time and i never noticed any weird moves/kills rather uses sound and the experience.(playd with him for a long time meaning nearly 3-4 years).

Here is his old unban appeal.

http://www.ambrosia-servers.eu/community/index.php?topic=5893.0 (http://www.ambrosia-servers.eu/community/index.php?topic=5893.0)
Title: Re: unban request part 2
Post by: Legion on December 29, 2014, 11:46:13 pm
Hello,

Thanks Bunjee, im happy the old ban demo is still available.

I respect all admins here and they are doing a fine job on the servers. Occasionally mistakes are made, which is not the end of the world. Thats why we have an unban panel whom will review every unban request with care.

The problem is, when people start flaming in these topics, the attention gets drawn away from the Demo. Which probably happened in this case. Keep calm, even if some admins/players still say its WH after watching the demo.

This demo proofs Duffman was not wallhacking. Therefor his permban should be removed.

If there are other issues: Attitude towards Ambrosian admins etc..Keep in mind its pretty annoying if you get banned 20times for playing like a boss. But, nevertheless --> dont flame/disrespect ambrosian staff for trying to do their jobs.

With that being said, I am a bit dissapointed that this case was denied in the first place (2 years ago), as this demo clearly shows he is CLEAN.

Goodluck
Legion





Title: Re: unban request part 2
Post by: Andrew` on December 30, 2014, 12:06:28 am
Sorry but I personally think, as an answer to your post dear friend Legion, that the previous unban denial was harsh but correct, not for the cheating part, but for the offensive attitude towards Ambrosian admins and old Staff members.

You see, someone might be wrong about you, but you have no right to call him dumb or other names either if it's a fact or not(and facts are subjective). Like it or not, these are the admins, with their opinion and experience. Just because you're smarter on a game doesn't make them dumb.

What I meant is, keep it polite this time please. I will not take part on this as I don't have time.

Regards.
Title: Re: unban request part 2
Post by: AAA on December 30, 2014, 12:12:20 am
just admit and say youll never do it again and they will give you a 2nd chance i think. stop the lies TY <3
Title: Re: unban request part 2
Post by: header on December 30, 2014, 12:12:57 am
Actually i think i played a major decision in the fact he cheated.

Though he's actually a really cool guy to be honest, so i'm all for second chances.
Title: Re: unban request part 2
Post by: duffman on December 30, 2014, 12:23:12 am
Sorry but I personally think, as an answer to your post dear friend Legion, that the previous unban denial was harsh but correct, not for the cheating part, but for the offensive attitude towards Ambrosian admins and old Staff members.

You see, someone might be wrong about you, but you have no right to call him dumb or other names either if it's a fact or not(and facts are subjective). Like it or not, these are the admins, with their opinion and experience. Just before you're smarter on a game doesn't make them dumb.

What I meant is, keep it polite this time please. I will not take part on this as I don't have time.

Regards.


you are right I might come across a bit harsh, but it's a bit hard explaining something to somebody that he does not understand without hurting their feelings. And after a while it's easy to get frustrated if every post I made gets ignored apart from the flaming part that does not get ignored. For example I explained 3 times the flashtrick and still it got ignored because they simple do NOT know it.  Also if you must know Hyss has said sorry to me on teamspeak a while back after playing with him a mix for banning me I did not even know  the guy.
Title: Re: unban request part 2
Post by: AAA on December 30, 2014, 12:47:01 am
youre lying that hyss said sorry to you, since hyss isnt be active in any game for like 2 years...just admit and ask for 2nd chance.
Title: Re: unban request part 2
Post by: Legion on December 30, 2014, 01:45:46 am
3Z10,

As we stated above, we dont want to divert the topic by flaming and then responding etc.

You clearly have not watched the demo, as it proofs he is clean.
He got permbanned cause of his attitude, not because of hax.

lets wait for some more responses from admins/high staff.

thanks

Title: Re: unban request part 2
Post by: thEnd on December 30, 2014, 01:54:37 am
Actually i think i played a major decision in the fact he cheated.

Though he's actually a really cool guy to be honest, so i'm all for second chances.

I'm sorry but you were not even close to ambrosia back then.  I was Afk by that time however his ban was no surprise to me. I even remeber that chat with sami @ inferno when dufman was walling us :D

It's a shame of oh yeah guys as I like blizzard and others...

Regarding this unban req I would scrap off what's behind as years have passed. We all grow up so..
Title: Re: unban request part 2
Post by: header on December 30, 2014, 02:00:45 am
Actually i think i played a major decision in the fact he cheated.

Though he's actually a really cool guy to be honest, so i'm all for second chances.

I'm sorry but you were not even close to ambrosia back then.  I was Afk by that time however his ban was no surprise to me. I even remeber that chat with sami @ inferno when dufman was walling us :D

It's a shame of oh yeah guys as I like blizzard and others...

Regarding this unban req I would scrap off what's behind as years have passed. We all grow up so..

Different duffman then?  ::)

Weird. I'll keep my nose out then.
Title: Re: unban request part 2
Post by: thEnd on December 30, 2014, 02:23:20 am
Actually i think i played a major decision in the fact he cheated.

Though he's actually a really cool guy to be honest, so i'm all for second chances.

I'm sorry but you were not even close to ambrosia back then.  I was Afk by that time however his ban was no surprise to me. I even remeber that chat with sami @ inferno when dufman was walling us :D

It's a shame of oh yeah guys as I like blizzard and others...

Regarding this unban req I would scrap off what's behind as years have passed. We all grow up so..

Different duffman then?  ::)

Weird. I'll keep my nose out then.

We both are having some personal disagreements, but in this case I just made a remark that I can't recall you being involved in that drama as that was a while ago... Hyss and cersei xenoke, etc..
Title: Re: unban request part 2
Post by: Burzum on December 30, 2014, 10:16:43 am
played multiple times with him, never saw him using cheats. maybe his attitude wqas not the best, but ist very dissapointing when u trying to explain something and ppl dont want to listen them....

although a ban at a famous german community is not a good sign.....
http://www.amxbans.com/user/STEAM_0:0:3187685 (http://www.amxbans.com/user/STEAM_0:0:3187685)
Title: Re: unban request part 2
Post by: BunjEE on December 30, 2014, 10:24:18 am
played multiple times with him, never saw him using cheats. maybe his attitude wqas not the best, but ist very dissapointing when u trying to explain something and ppl dont want to listen them....

although a ban at a famous german community is not a good sign.....
http://www.amxbans.com/user/STEAM_0:0:3187685 (http://www.amxbans.com/user/STEAM_0:0:3187685)

He is banned on almost all UK servers, or almost all European servers xD, he is just 2stronk.
Title: Re: unban request part 2
Post by: SilverQuick on December 30, 2014, 10:26:03 am
I didn't know he got also a ban on another community as Burzum stated, but what was the reason of this ban? bad attitude too? or cheating.
Title: Re: unban request part 2
Post by: BunjEE on December 30, 2014, 10:30:48 am
I didn't know he got also a ban on another community as Burzum stated, but what was the reason of this ban? bad attitude too? or cheating.

He usually gets banned for cheating mainly, but he doesn't cheat as he got so much experience.
Title: Re: unban request part 2
Post by: SilverQuick on December 30, 2014, 10:37:17 am
I didn't know he got also a ban on another community as Burzum stated, but what was the reason of this ban? bad attitude too? or cheating.

He usually gets banned for cheating mainly, but he doesn't cheat as he got so much experience.
Well, based on demos taken in Ambrosia, but what about for other communities?
Title: Re: unban request part 2
Post by: X-KilleR on December 30, 2014, 11:30:16 am
@BunjEE and others please stop answering in his place, he is mature and can speak, he is banned here banned in other community for a reason or reasons, there is no smoke without fire ,anyway:

Your appeal is being reviewed
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Title: Re: [CS 1.6]Unban Request -(dd2)[duffman][UNBAN PANEL]
Post by: RAMBATEN on December 30, 2014, 11:56:23 am
Lol you banned duffman, why would you do that. I have know him long long time..He ain't hacking and can't see demoes anymore. No more cs 1.6...
Title: Re: unban request part 2
Post by: AAA on December 30, 2014, 12:47:14 pm
3Z10,

As we stated above, we dont want to divert the topic by flaming and then responding etc.

You clearly have not watched the demo, as it proofs he is clean.
He got permbanned cause of his attitude, not because of hax.

lets wait for some more responses from admins/high staff.

thanks
Who are you? Dont judge when you dont know me son,
I watched the demo years ago already... If you think the demo is clean i would say gibe up your admin rights since you cant see if a player cheats or not.

And please guys cut the crap that he is experienced, maybe he is now but at the tike he got bannes he was just a 8'digit guy with hacks
Title: Re: unban request part 2
Post by: thEnd on December 30, 2014, 12:54:59 pm
3Z10,

As we stated above, we dont want to divert the topic by flaming and then responding etc.

You clearly have not watched the demo, as it proofs he is clean.
He got permbanned cause of his attitude, not because of hax.

lets wait for some more responses from admins/high staff.

thanks
Who are you? Dont judge when you dont know me son,
I watched the demo years ago already... If you think the demo is clean i would say gibe up your admin rights since you cant see if a player cheats or not.

Same thoughts. !

Praise the cr7!

And yeah "busting" demo was good enough, + many admin suspicions..

Yes, years ago we had overskilled players in dd2, dufman was one of them. But having "skills" doesn't mean that this person doesn't cheat... It have been proven many times.. IF you disagree, dig up demo, triple check b - mid - top mid rush round..

Anyhow it was years ago, and I would scrap off and let him play again lol.. It was like a real life sentence - 2+years..
Title: Re: unban request part 2
Post by: header on December 30, 2014, 01:23:01 pm
Actually i think i played a major decision in the fact he cheated.

Though he's actually a really cool guy to be honest, so i'm all for second chances.

I'm sorry but you were not even close to ambrosia back then.  I was Afk by that time however his ban was no surprise to me. I even remeber that chat with sami @ inferno when dufman was walling us :D

It's a shame of oh yeah guys as I like blizzard and others...

Regarding this unban req I would scrap off what's behind as years have passed. We all grow up so..

Different duffman then?  ::)

Weird. I'll keep my nose out then.

We both are having some personal disagreements, but in this case I just made a remark that I can't recall you being involved in that drama as that was a while ago... Hyss and cersei xenoke, etc..

I actually left you to it, i didn't say anything disrespectful just i walked away as i was on about a different duffman..
Title: Re: unban request part 2
Post by: Legion on December 30, 2014, 02:19:26 pm
3Z10,

As we stated above, we dont want to divert the topic by flaming and then responding etc.

You clearly have not watched the demo, as it proofs he is clean.
He got permbanned cause of his attitude, not because of hax.

lets wait for some more responses from admins/high staff.

thanks
Who are you? Dont judge when you dont know me son,
I watched the demo years ago already... If you think the demo is clean i would say gibe up your admin rights since you cant see if a player cheats or not.

Same thoughts. !

Praise the cr7!

And yeah "busting" demo was good enough, + many admin suspicions..

Yes, years ago we had overskilled players in dd2, dufman was one of them. But having "skills" doesn't mean that this person doesn't cheat... It have been proven many times.. IF you disagree, dig up demo, triple check b - mid - top mid rush round..

Anyhow it was years ago, and I would scrap off and let him play again lol.. It was like a real life sentence - 2+years..

I will give up my admin rights if he doesnt get unbanned. Im sorry but you guys are just wrong. He is not wallhcking in this demo.
Just sound and brains. What do you think will happen if 1 of your "heroes" like forest/markeloff etc came to play on public...they get banned within 2 mins.

Title: Re: unban request part 2
Post by: duffman on December 30, 2014, 03:01:49 pm
played multiple times with him, never saw him using cheats. maybe his attitude wqas not the best, but ist very dissapointing when u trying to explain something and ppl dont want to listen them....

although a ban at a famous german community is not a good sign.....
http://www.amxbans.com/user/STEAM_0:0:3187685 (http://www.amxbans.com/user/STEAM_0:0:3187685)

HI burzum one of the few names I remember from SN :).
And I would not qualify german headquarters as a server with strong players even if it's popular. It's not a good sign to headshot the admin/owner few times to much to get banned :).

The only servers i'm not banned are Brutal and swedish or norweigan servers because they have much better players , but don't play there to much because of the higher ping.

X-killer => You would be surprised how many communities have a good unban management team there won't be much. And most of the time you get banned without a demo because in most communities there is no structure or if the owner banned you no point if you make an unban request. Even you would be surprised how many cases you get banned without being specced. The only reason why I was never banned before in Ambrosia SN is because I was admin myself on fy and public playing and helping alot  new players and SN had a good unban management team.
And also most of the skilled sn ambrosia players either quit or most where banned by the new wave of admins that joined after.
Title: Re: [CS 1.6]Unban Request -(dd2)[duffman][UNBAN PANEL]
Post by: Lacoste on December 30, 2014, 04:10:15 pm
i just want to ask a question,you will review his case based on his demo before 3 years ago or whats the procedure you will look into.
thank you.
Title: Re: unban request part 2
Post by: AAA on December 30, 2014, 08:50:38 pm
3Z10,

As we stated above, we dont want to divert the topic by flaming and then responding etc.

You clearly have not watched the demo, as it proofs he is clean.
He got permbanned cause of his attitude, not because of hax.

lets wait for some more responses from admins/high staff.

thanks
Who are you? Dont judge when you dont know me son,
I watched the demo years ago already... If you think the demo is clean i would say gibe up your admin rights since you cant see if a player cheats or not.

Same thoughts. !

Praise the cr7!

And yeah "busting" demo was good enough, + many admin suspicions..

Yes, years ago we had overskilled players in dd2, dufman was one of them. But having "skills" doesn't mean that this person doesn't cheat... It have been proven many times.. IF you disagree, dig up demo, triple check b - mid - top mid rush round..

Anyhow it was years ago, and I would scrap off and let him play again lol.. It was like a real life sentence - 2+years..

I will give up my admin rights if he doesnt get unbanned. Im sorry but you guys are just wrong. He is not wallhcking in this demo.
Just sound and brains. What do you think will happen if 1 of your "heroes" like forest/markeloff etc came to play on public...they get banned within 2 mins.

Ok then i suggest you resign... cause if he will get unbanned its because he deserves a second chance
Title: Re: [CS 1.6]Unban Request -(dd2)[duffman][UNBAN PANEL]
Post by: Legion on December 30, 2014, 09:37:22 pm
hey 3Z10

Im sorry, I told myself not to get drawn into these pointless arguments.

He never cheated, the demo is clean, which is not that hard to see.
If he gets unbanned, then its a second chance for his attitude <---NOT a second chance for cheating.

More people with a better understanding of CS 1.6 gameplay will comment on this topic soon.

I will stop commenting now, I hope you will stop commenting aswell, especially because you are not that bright when it comes to cs 1.6 gamesense.

Legion

Title: Re: [CS 1.6]Unban Request -(dd2)[duffman][UNBAN PANEL]
Post by: thEnd on December 30, 2014, 10:31:29 pm
1He never cheated, the demo is clean, which is not that hard to see.

2More people with a better understanding of CS 1.6 gameplay will comment on this topic soon.

3I will stop commenting now, I hope you will stop commenting aswell, especiallygamesense.


1lol

2lol

3lol

You rather stop commenting ;D
For cheating and not question - he was banned based on majority dd2 admin judgement. 
For demo, you just need to check on topics what ppl have written.
And about gamesenses you have no idea with who you are talking ;D

Anyhow.. majority are vouching and supporting unban..
Title: [UNBANNED][CS 1.6]Unban Request -(dd2)[duffman][UNBAN PANEL]
Post by: X-KilleR on December 30, 2014, 10:35:28 pm
The unban panel decided to give you a second chance ,however any bad attitudes, behavior against players or admins in both forum and server will not be tolerated. hope you understand and follow ambrosia rules, and respect others.
UNBANNED