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Title: Promotions
Post by: SharkX69 on November 18, 2014, 10:42:55 pm
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AMBROSIA ANNOUNCEMENT FROM THE EMPERORS

Hello Ambrosians.

After our last meeting we end up in 2 promotions that will take place in our community.
In order to make our community even better we need people in new positions to organise things a bit more with new plans and ideas and to help community in every way its needed.

Santa ~ Guardian will be the new head admin of deathrun server to keep order in server and manage it to make it even better than it already is.

Sneaky~RoN will be our new Community Leader to help us even more in all our plans and projects with his knowledge to make our servers and forum even better.

Hard work is awaiting you both at your new duties.
We appreciate your efforts til now from the positions you had and we believe you will keep up with the good work at your new positions aswell.

Congratulations to both of you and keep up the good work.


Seal of the Emperors.
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Title: Re: Promotions
Post by: taha on November 18, 2014, 10:43:33 pm
Gratz for roni :D
and yaaaaaaaaaaay for Santa =D
Title: Re: Promotions
Post by: Pringles on November 18, 2014, 10:47:15 pm
Congratulations guys, well deserved :D
Title: Re: Promotions
Post by: Pim on November 18, 2014, 10:50:32 pm
Told you Santa, sooner or later you'll get there. Hard work eventually pays off, good luck man, wish you all the best.

Gratz to both
Title: Re: Promotions
Post by: Ovér'Dos£ on November 18, 2014, 10:51:07 pm
Congratulations Roni  ;)
Title: Re: Promotions
Post by: 'PL' on November 18, 2014, 10:52:34 pm
Expected :D



Congratulation to roni man.
And santa.
Title: Re: Promotions
Post by: CoiNNN on November 18, 2014, 10:59:07 pm
Congractultions to Roni and Santa, was a bit obvious
Title: Re: Promotions
Post by: terraboN on November 18, 2014, 11:00:22 pm
Gratz RoNi and Santa :) Hope you do well in your positions.
Title: Re: Promotions
Post by: 'PL' on November 18, 2014, 11:01:44 pm
Gratz RoNi and Santa :) Hope you do well in your positions.

I find something really odd here if u guys ask me.
Title: Re: Promotions
Post by: terraboN on November 18, 2014, 11:02:20 pm
Gratz RoNi and Santa :) Hope you do well in your positions.

I find something really odd here if u guys ask me.

No shit m8.
Title: Re: Promotions
Post by: ~RoN on November 18, 2014, 11:06:52 pm
wow this was unexpected for me.

I wanted to let you know how much I appreciate this promotion, for giving me a chance to manage more ambrosia.
I highly appreciate your trust, and will work hard to keep it. I promise to fulfill my new responsibilities effectively. Thank you so much for trusting on my capabilities.

Yours sincerely,
Sneaky~RoN
Title: Re: Promotions
Post by: NexT on November 18, 2014, 11:07:45 pm
What if roni doesn't like the green color  ::)
Title: Re: Promotions
Post by: 'PL' on November 18, 2014, 11:10:36 pm
What if roni doesn't like the green color  ::)
We'll give him a rainbow.
Title: Re: Promotions
Post by: Rubix on November 18, 2014, 11:20:54 pm
My thoughts on CCs promotion are the same as Ronis.
Gz santa although unexpected
Title: Re: Promotions
Post by: TeeKaaY on November 18, 2014, 11:23:01 pm
Somebody is getting mad.

Yes terrabon, I think its time for a chill pill? :P
Title: Re: Promotions
Post by: I-EKILER on November 18, 2014, 11:23:53 pm
Lol gratz santa
Title: Re: Promotions
Post by: Chris on November 18, 2014, 11:26:36 pm
Didn't expect Santa's promotion, congratulations to both.
Title: Re: Promotions
Post by: Sight on November 18, 2014, 11:45:53 pm
so how is the green color? its awesome right ?
Title: Re: Promotions
Post by: DonTodo # on November 19, 2014, 12:01:51 am
My thoughts on CCs promotion are the same as Ronis.
Gz santa although unexpected

Agreed.

Gz santa.
Title: Re: Promotions
Post by: 'PL' on November 19, 2014, 12:11:47 am
My thoughts on CCs promotion are the same as Ronis.
Gz santa although unexpected


With all do respect
CC is a unique figure and cannot be compared to roni :D
Roni least didn't lie about his registration date unlike ...
Title: Re: Promotions
Post by: P o p a y on November 19, 2014, 12:23:53 am
Congratulations fellas..

Deserved ! :)
Title: Re: Promotions
Post by: NovemberRaiN` on November 19, 2014, 01:38:07 am
Woop woop  :D
Well deserved Roni indeed, you have contributed quite a lot to this place, and I am genuinely happy for you man :)
Santa, you're a very nice guy, and based on that I think you will do a great job, even tho I have little knowledge about your work on Deathrun, I believe its the right choice, congratulations to you too dude! :)
Title: Re: Promotions
Post by: Koray on November 19, 2014, 01:39:17 am
Congratz to both of you, even tho Santa's promotion was really unexpected from my PoV.
Title: Re: Promotions
Post by: Maki on November 19, 2014, 02:15:41 am
Not unexpected but not a very wise choice. It feels like a forced promotion to me especially knowing RoNi's general attitude.

Don't get me wrong, he can be a very nice guy but he's not the type to sugarcoat his opinions, he posts what is on his mind at a time without thinking it too much through. It causes several issues and often he can't back off from his opinion after because it's simply too late.

Besides that, he's the type that when angry can really overreact things very badly and that even publicly, he's not the type of person you really want to talk to when he's mad and you can't expect his next course of action when he is. You have to wait for him to calm down but it's very hard to deal with him at the time and so he can cause things that will get people immensely pissed off.

That brings us to his leadership or management abilities, from what I've heard, Surf GG was left in a poor state and he basically told that it was up to Pim to fix it (from hearsay, if RoNi denies that, then I guess it's a he/she says kinda thing), I mean can you really respect and follow someone that leaves stuff up to you on a whim and may refuse to help you out, will you listen to someone that tends to overreact small stuff and acts in general very control hungry?

I haven't seen him really excel in solving issues either or well I've seen him create more issues than solve to be completely honest due to the aforementionned reasons. His english also may be a cause as he doesn't express himself well at times or it just doesn't come across as he intended due to the language barrier.

Additionally, I don't see the level headedness in RoNi that I see in other people. I see a hot headed person that gets mad too often and acts too much based on his feelings. I feel that when things don't go his way, he often rages and act in a way that is barely staff material, let alone CL material.

Yeah he works hard from time to time, yeah he's been here for years. But being an oldie and working hard does not mean you deserve or are ready for a promotion. Promoting someone to let him show he's capable isn't a very viable strategy either. People have to be capable before you promote them to eliminate any risk of issues coming up.

Title: Re: Promotions
Post by: Cocainee Vendetta on November 19, 2014, 03:07:15 am
It's the way you approach people. Respect and get respected; Roni and CC.

Good luck guys. Best wishes.
Title: Re: Promotions
Post by: [C]asperTheOG on November 19, 2014, 04:36:29 am
Grats
Title: Re: Promotions
Post by: Ray on November 19, 2014, 05:01:24 am
Gratz both!  Well deserved
Title: Re: Promotions
Post by: bezt on November 19, 2014, 05:26:47 am
Gratz pals, well deserverd and keep up the good work :)
Title: Re: Promotions
Post by: Ed on November 19, 2014, 05:41:38 am
A person can grow to his/hers expectations within a rank or high responsibility job. People tend to realize the importance of their rights when they receive them and are thrown in such situations which they are not used to or familiar with, which then teaches them how to become better than they are and see their faults and mistakes (not always the case of course).
Perhaps slating isn't the right way to go around, but on the other hand, perhaps Roni can see from replies made against him, what he needs to work on.
In no doubt I believe he will do a great job at that. He knows himself, his mistakes and how he reacts to others. You will only have to see and wait, whether he fails his duties or accomplishes more than people would of believed he can.

Don't judge a book by it's cover.
I am sure you can find anything to bitch about in my post or furthermore in anyone's comments who would speak or defend certain individuals. Don't get me wrong, I am not here to protect/defend, I just wanted to express my thoughts. Give a man a chance to prove himself if their worthy.

Congrats Miguel, good luck in managing Deathrun.
Title: Re: Promotions
Post by: Zizu~ on November 19, 2014, 05:59:51 am
Congratulations Santaaaa! :D
also gratz roNi :DDD
dont let us down :DD
Title: Re: Promotions
Post by: Cowboy on November 19, 2014, 06:25:35 am
Gratz guys
Title: Re: Promotions
Post by: SilverQuick on November 19, 2014, 06:49:44 am
Gratz guys.
Title: Re: Promotions
Post by: Noex' on November 19, 2014, 07:43:18 am
Gratz both of you !
Title: Re: Promotions
Post by: Kay on November 19, 2014, 07:43:46 am
Congratulations guys ,
Both of u deserve it , keep the good work up guys
Title: Re: Promotions
Post by: X-KilleR on November 19, 2014, 08:27:51 am
Well deserved guys, for rony i knew it    :D ,wise decisions for the community
Title: Re: Promotions
Post by: Andrew` on November 19, 2014, 08:47:24 am
Congratulations to both, well deserved and best of luck!

To people "arguing" about the promotions, I wanna say I've known Roni since Redzone(could it be 5 years? maybe more..) and all I know is he will do the right thing when he has to and he never ignores other people's opinions, he might be angry at you in the first place for arguing with him but he always listens and later on if you are right he will come and discuss it with you. Nobody is perfect, at least he listens, compared to others. With this promotion I'm sure he will get even more responsible and fullfill the requirements of this rank in a good rate, I'm sure.
Title: Re: Promotions
Post by: Ezzα on November 19, 2014, 10:12:28 am
I understand your concerns maki regarding your opinion on Roni and I too was doubtful at first. However, I spoke to Roni a couple of days ago about some issues he was dealing with and I felt that he handled the situation ok. He accepted my comments and took onboard the the advice I gave him.

Some people are already made for leadership roles through experience gained in work and real life experiences but others need tutoring and I believe Roni is the latter. However, in saying this we all have to start somewhere and this opportunity should provide Roni with more challenges than ever and he will have to grow with it.
Title: Re: Promotions
Post by: presto on November 19, 2014, 10:32:30 am
Well done guys, much deserved.

All the best.
Title: Re: Promotions
Post by: |B|urN on November 19, 2014, 11:16:36 am
Congratulations both.
Title: Re: Promotions
Post by: YouTube Inc. on November 19, 2014, 11:41:09 am
gratz :D
Title: Re: Promotions
Post by: Suhaib on November 19, 2014, 11:52:34 am
congratulations both, do ur best  ;)
Title: Re: Promotions
Post by: Darki on November 19, 2014, 12:27:00 pm
Pointless comments.

Why does everyone have to make criticism over someone? Like you're a perfect human, oh please..
I have no idea where some people are trying to get with this, probably trying to show to owners that Roni isn't worth for the position? I don't see anyone else in this community that deserves that rank more then Roni. I also heard that he is spending a lot of time fixing the servers you play on while he has a job. Roni's attitude might not be perfect in some cases, maybe because of real life issues and that's why he has anger sometimes? I gotta say this is a gaming community and not some sort of government so instead of taking things too serious about something, re-think that the person you're talking to might not be having his/her best day? Even though he is mostly a great person. I don't know what Roni did since there is a bit of hate in the comments however those people should give him a chance and if he fails on his job owners can simply take actions? While i absolutely think he will grow and make the community stronger.

Afterall, i'm happy that Roni now has the chance to show himself more into the community and we all will be here while he makes it better/worse so just leave this thread alone and complain later.

Didn't have the chance to say, congratulation Roni and Santa.
Title: Re: Promotions
Post by: Santa on November 19, 2014, 12:43:29 pm
Thank you guys, its just amazing all these replies makes together wonderful feeling, i promise i will do my best with the server.
also congrats to roni you deserve that bro !

<3
Title: Re: Promotions
Post by: Rawrplus on November 19, 2014, 12:44:20 pm
Not unexpected but not a very wise choice. It feels like a forced promotion to me especially knowing RoNi's general attitude.

Don't get me wrong, he can be a very nice guy but he's not the type to sugarcoat his opinions, he posts what is on his mind at a time without thinking it too much through. It causes several issues and often he can't back off from his opinion after because it's simply too late.

Besides that, he's the type that when angry can really overreact things very badly and that even publicly, he's not the type of person you really want to talk to when he's mad and you can't expect his next course of action when he is. You have to wait for him to calm down but it's very hard to deal with him at the time and so he can cause things that will get people immensely pissed off.

That brings us to his leadership or management abilities, from what I've heard, Surf GG was left in a poor state and he basically told that it was up to Pim to fix it (from hearsay, if RoNi denies that, then I guess it's a he/she says kinda thing), I mean can you really respect and follow someone that leaves stuff up to you on a whim and may refuse to help you out, will you listen to someone that tends to overreact small stuff and acts in general very control hungry?

I haven't seen him really excel in solving issues either or well I've seen him create more issues than solve to be completely honest due to the aforementionned reasons. His english also may be a cause as he doesn't express himself well at times or it just doesn't come across as he intended due to the language barrier.

Additionally, I don't see the level headedness in RoNi that I see in other people. I see a hot headed person that gets mad too often and acts too much based on his feelings. I feel that when things don't go his way, he often rages and act in a way that is barely staff material, let alone CL material.

Yeah he works hard from time to time, yeah he's been here for years. But being an oldie and working hard does not mean you deserve or are ready for a promotion. Promoting someone to let him show he's capable isn't a very viable strategy either. People have to be capable before you promote them to eliminate any risk of issues coming up.

I do agree with certain points you made here and week back I had a conversation with Roni and when he asked me for a honest opinion / critique I said things of similarity. I do think it's a tad unfair though, to write him off immediately without giving him in a chance. Bear in mind, there is a trial period if things go wrong and secondly, some people indeed change with their responsibilities, myself included. I am a rude, immature asshole if you meet me on league (or any other non-ambrosia related thing), I just learned where to keep my act together. I do think Roni needs to work out on his public appearance and the way he tends to overreact (I even said that to him in our private conversation) - this however does not mean Roni cannot change for the better and personally I believe if Roni does try hard enough he can become a representative figure. He may have a long way to go, this however does not mean he can't possibly get there.

Title: Re: Promotions
Post by: Motard on November 19, 2014, 12:54:13 pm
congrats to you both :D
Title: Re: Promotions
Post by: ~RoN on November 19, 2014, 01:33:53 pm
Hello Everybody,

Thank you for your comments everyone. I have to agree with your negative comments but this sort of thing happens to everybody. Well i do understand everybody here and believe me i know that i have some negative side's of me like i said before i can get mad really fast that's true i can be mean sometimes. But nobody is perfect as we all know everybody have some bad side's. I do agree my attitude its not the best but the only reason i am here is to make ambrosia a better place for every single one of you. And about my anger problems i am working to fix that and everybody is aware that i have anger problems, but believe me that i will always take a fair decision when it comes to the community. Ambrosia for me its my second life, everything that happens bad to ambrosia will affect me too. I am the guy who is stuck and addicted to ambrosia. Because its simple i love this community and the people that are here in this community. I will support any member that has any problem with anyone. I am not here to eat anyone or to destroy anybody. Like i said i am here to make this community a better place for every single person here, but you should also remember that we can not please everybody. Every human being in this world likes different things, everybody has different opinions and i respect every ones opinion. I will do my best to control my anger problems and i will do everything for this community to be good. But please give me sometime to prove my self i just got this rank yesterday.

Thanks for reading.
~RoN
Title: Re: Promotions
Post by: SilverQuick on November 19, 2014, 01:40:12 pm
You'll do alright mate, I'm sure of it and good luck.
Title: Re: Promotions
Post by: Maki on November 19, 2014, 02:36:24 pm
I understand your concerns maki regarding your opinion on Roni and I too was doubtful at first. However, I spoke to Roni a couple of days ago about some issues he was dealing with and I felt that he handled the situation ok. He accepted my comments and took onboard the the advice I gave him.

Some people are already made for leadership roles through experience gained in work and real life experiences but others need tutoring and I believe Roni is the latter. However, in saying this we all have to start somewhere and this opportunity should provide Roni with more challenges than ever and he will have to grow with it.

I've never been a fan of promoting people prior to showing themselves ready. It's counterproductive. It brings a lot of backlash to the person when people actually knew he wasn't ready.

Don't get me wrong, taking gambles is alright sometimes but I just don't see the necessity here, besides that, can we really come to say the promotion was necessary? There was no need to rush it out and testing out someone in the hopes he turns out alright can go sour very quick. Heck, we've seen multiple cases of those where people got it when they shouldn't have gotten it and problems ensued. The tutoring has to be done before, not after.


I do agree with certain points you made here and week back I had a conversation with Roni and when he asked me for a honest opinion / critique I said things of similarity. I do think it's a tad unfair though, to write him off immediately without giving him in a chance. Bear in mind, there is a trial period if things go wrong and secondly, some people indeed change with their responsibilities, myself included. I am a rude, immature asshole if you meet me on league (or any other non-ambrosia related thing), I just learned where to keep my act together. I do think Roni needs to work out on his public appearance and the way he tends to overreact (I even said that to him in our private conversation) - this however does not mean Roni cannot change for the better and personally I believe if Roni does try hard enough he can become a representative figure. He may have a long way to go, this however does not mean he can't possibly get there.



I'm judging his general behaviour that is fairly recent that has shown clear signs of him being unready and I'm writing him off based on that. People should, to say it once again, only be promoted when he has the capacities to handle the new position and not before. I don't see why you're talking about yourself since you quite clearly already knew how to control yourself and act before you got promoted which isn't the case here and even you seem to admit to it.

I'm not saying he'll never fit, almost anyone could fit with effort, motivation and time but you should generally wait until that time passes or guide him until he's there and not hope for the best after the person got promoted. It's not surprising quite a few promotions turned out sour if you adapt this kind of protocol.

Anyway, I'll leave it at that. I've given my opinion, there's no need to keep arguing here. You know where to find me if you want to talk.

Good luck to both of you.
Title: Re: Promotions
Post by: RAMBATEN on November 19, 2014, 03:39:58 pm
Gongratz to both..

Off-Topic...What is the role of Tai in this community as UC. He has no access example csgo servers and I think he was promoted for csgo part. Why would you promote guys without any kind of access developing community.  Just asking?
Title: Re: Promotions
Post by: 'PL' on November 19, 2014, 03:45:25 pm
Gongratz to both..

Off-Topic...What is the role of Tai in this community as UC. He has no access example csgo servers and I think he was promoted for csgo part. Why would you promote guys without any kind of access developing community.  Just asking?

The rerouted the access tables, so being a uc is like being a head admin in 2011 ;D
Title: Re: Promotions
Post by: Ḏ℮ηїαł on November 19, 2014, 03:48:53 pm
every promotion topic there's those pointless people who just start the fire and want to start an argument because they feed off it,  if you don't like so and so getting promoted, tough luck, deal with it.

if you've got nothing nice to say, then keep it to yourself.

jesus christ there have not been one topic where there was no negative comments

gratz roni and santa :)

gl!
Title: Re: Promotions
Post by: Kiricocom on November 19, 2014, 04:12:02 pm
Congratulation guys!
Title: Re: Promotions
Post by: Fisu on November 19, 2014, 04:23:58 pm
Maki:
Quote
But being an oldie and working hard does not mean you deserve or are ready for a promotion.

He's an oldie
He works hard, don't you think there've been desicion made on that class of his, even without these 2 points? He at least has them ;)

I can fully assure you that he will do well at his position and won't rage quit cause there are kiddies in the community.

Congrats to your new rank Santa + Roni, don't let us down =)


PS Maki don't get anything wrong. You left an impression behind to me which wasn't that "NICE" even though you have the good reasons which I don't know due inactivtiy or due the fact they were between you and the staff. But as I said, I go with the facts I've seen and judge on that.

Title: Re: Promotions
Post by: Red Wolf on November 19, 2014, 04:26:52 pm
Congratulations roni and santa!
Title: Re: Promotions
Post by: Cocainee Vendetta on November 19, 2014, 05:42:38 pm
I'll some up Maki's comments with a tag.

#CocaineeforCL  8)

I'm sure Roni would be determined to prove you wrong and improve on those aspects you've mentioned.
Title: Re: Promotions
Post by: X-KilleR on November 19, 2014, 09:07:52 pm
well maki if i remember, you did't accept some criticism in an old promotion topic when you were FM, you were always saying it is not "the right place for this or that" , well again ill say it to you it is not the right place for what you said. emperors made their decision, i think it is well deserved, and yes we aren't all perfect , but he did a lot for this community, before you come and after, am sorry but oldie does matter a lot, proof,; we still here , and others just left, why is that ? we just love this community, we still loyal, we argue , we joke, we talk, we fight, but we are here, in the good moments, and in bad moments
again well deserved guys
X 
Title: Re: Promotions
Post by: Klopsik on November 20, 2014, 11:11:49 am
Congratulations mates  :)
Title: Re: Promotions
Post by: PaNiCღ on November 20, 2014, 11:30:50 am
Congratz Santa u deserve it and Roni fu  :-* u deserve it too roni.
Title: Re: Promotions
Post by: Fry on November 20, 2014, 07:22:37 pm
Congratz Santa ! Well Deserved.


Now.. RoNi

In my opinion i believe that he's not ready for that position because the job of the Community Leader is to Listen and act. and i believe that the current RoNi cannot Listen even if he's Wrong or not sure about some subject or discussion.

Note: I'm not saying this because i hate RoNi for banning me from TS3 server , i'm not the first and surely not the last who got banned for that reason.



K-R

K-NATS.
Title: Re: Promotions
Post by: Card Clasher on November 21, 2014, 02:23:24 pm
My thoughts on CCs promotion are the same as Ronis.
Gz santa although unexpected


With all do respect
CC is a unique figure and cannot be compared to roni :D
Roni least didn't lie about his registration date unlike ...

I don't reckon being the twofaced imbecile unlike you Replica, I'm not even in this topic keep me out. Thank you very much :)
Title: Re: Promotions
Post by: 'PL' on November 21, 2014, 02:25:21 pm
Butthurt comes a long way.
Title: Re: Promotions
Post by: Card Clasher on November 21, 2014, 02:31:56 pm
Butthurt comes a long way.

I believe you were the one butthurt kiddo. You are nothing but toxic to the community, sooner or later you won't even be able to login here anymore when the highstaff team finally figures out once and for all that you're nothing but a mentally ill child who has nothing better to do. Once you finally get banned for being an idiot you can go buy a grave for yourself and ask your parents for a coffin to sleep in since you have nothing else to do with your miserable, pathetic and inconvenient life.

Sorry for this post but somebody had to tell him that.

Warned 20 % Quit posting such things.
Ron
Title: Re: Promotions
Post by: Zizu~ on November 21, 2014, 02:34:16 pm
Just stop arguing and fighting and stuff... Lets all just be friends.. xD
Title: Re: Promotions
Post by: 'PL' on November 21, 2014, 02:35:19 pm
But how did I survive 5 years, and you had in your first day 10 reports?


And you are calling me butthurt when all of your comments contain interpersonal characteristics without any certified title to use them?
Title: Re: Promotions
Post by: SilverQuick on November 21, 2014, 02:35:26 pm
CC is here, omg. 8)
Title: Re: Promotions
Post by: Card Clasher on November 21, 2014, 02:37:05 pm
But how did I survive 5 years, and you had in your first day 10 reports?

Your warning history is a bible.
Title: Re: Promotions
Post by: 'PL' on November 21, 2014, 02:40:45 pm
But how did I survive 5 years, and you had in your first day 10 reports?

Your warning history is a bible.
Consider that what I did on forums before had little to none impact to any individual, you on the other hand had great verbal communication with the members, so tell me a warning is treated the same as a report with actual evidence?
And what about the warnings for this year which were all issued by you?
That's what you call "criticism intake"?
To this day you are just trying to find different verbal capabilities to insult me where I just remind everybody of what you did.

I believe that in all my 5 years of this community, 90% of everybody you see here had never been in a incident with me, and if they did I was the first guy to say sorry.
And what you did was, warn/kick/ban those people. So tell me, am I the toxic one?

Oh and what about those comments when you (supposedly) left/resigned ambrosia, those were really genuine of the butthurt level.
Sooner or later you have to embrace that that you will need to work much more on your public representation profile if you want to be part of any company or community.
Really weak comeback.
Title: Re: Promotions
Post by: Andrew` on November 21, 2014, 02:41:44 pm
Take it easy sunshines, let's not fight in here. Someone lock this please? It's been open for too long already I guess..
Title: Re: Promotions
Post by: Pim on November 21, 2014, 03:00:53 pm
Both drop the discussion. Steam is your friend
Title: Re: Promotions
Post by: ~RoN on November 21, 2014, 05:21:22 pm
Thanks everyone :)

Locked.