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General Category => Suggestions / Feedback => Rejected Suggestions => Topic started by: SilverQuick on November 11, 2014, 10:02:56 pm

Title: [Server Suggestion] Plugin for Nades.
Post by: SilverQuick on November 11, 2014, 10:02:56 pm
As the title says, there is a plugin right now installed on public server which allows players to see what kind of nades their mates throw in order not to get flashed by mistake and so on, I'd like to see your opinions about this.
Title: Re: [Server Suggestion] Plugin for Nades.
Post by: Andrew` on November 11, 2014, 10:17:49 pm
Doesn't the log in the server chat do the same? (Fire in the hole!(Flashbang))
Title: Re: [Server Suggestion] Plugin for Nades.
Post by: SilverQuick on November 12, 2014, 04:03:39 am
Doesn't the log in the server chat do the same? (Fire in the hole!(Flashbang))
Not exactly, just says "Fire in the hole", but it seems that you didn't see the new plug of nades in public server which has been instaled by next, it's just excellent since it gives you the type of the nade you throwing, and if it's a flashbang you could notice and you could simply dodge your teammates' flashes in order not to get flashed.
Title: Re: [Server Suggestion] Plugin for Nades.
Post by: NexT on November 12, 2014, 02:47:34 pm
Here's an example:

Player (RADIO): Fire in the hole! [explosive]
Player (RADIO): Fire in the hole! [flashbang]
Player (RADIO): Fire in the hole! [smokegren]
Title: Re: [Server Suggestion] Plugin for Nades.
Post by: Andrew` on November 12, 2014, 04:32:38 pm
Here's an example:

Player (RADIO): Fire in the hole! [explosive]
Player (RADIO): Fire in the hole! [flashbang]
Player (RADIO): Fire in the hole! [smokegren]

Oh, alright then, I personally support this!
Title: Re: [Server Suggestion] Plugin for Nades.
Post by: X-KilleR on November 12, 2014, 04:51:52 pm
usefull suggestion ,i think it is a gd idea yes, i appreciated it before
Title: Re: [Server Suggestion] Plugin for Nades.
Post by: SilverQuick on November 12, 2014, 04:52:52 pm
Would like to see more opinions about this. :)
Title: Re: [Server Suggestion] Plugin for Nades.
Post by: presto on November 12, 2014, 05:08:28 pm
I don't like it personally.

It's create too much visual noise with all the colours and it's not really necessary.

On top of that, it's another plugin/overhead that we can live without.
Title: Re: [Server Suggestion] Plugin for Nades.
Post by: SilverQuick on November 12, 2014, 06:19:03 pm
I don't like it personally.

It's create too much visual noise with all the colours and it's not really necessary.

On top of that, it's another plugin/overhead that we can live without.
I respect your opinion presto, but I'm seeing too much complains about team flashing on dd2 server and insults aswell, with this we could avoid such things, and it's pretty much working on public since it got installed, besides I wouldn't suggest it if I really think it's not useful, thanks.
Title: Re: [Server Suggestion] Plugin for Nades.
Post by: BRaHaM on November 12, 2014, 06:51:11 pm
Support for this good plugin it allows players to see what kind of nades their teammates' are throwing in order not to get flashed, it is useful as silverquick just said.

Regards.
Title: Re: [Server Suggestion] Plugin for Nades.
Post by: presto on November 12, 2014, 09:10:44 pm
I don't like it personally.

It's create too much visual noise with all the colours and it's not really necessary.

On top of that, it's another plugin/overhead that we can live without.
I respect your opinion presto, but I'm seeing too much complains about team flashing on dd2 server and insults aswell, with this we could avoid such things, and it's pretty much working on public since it got installed, besides I wouldn't suggest it if I really think it's not useful, thanks.

To be fair I've not really heard of anyone team flashing, it's quite a rare thing on DD2. It's just messy and although it looks pretty at first, it really is a big distraction and just not needed.

If you wanted this to catch team flashers, you'll be chasing it all day long on who accused who, when it was thrown, where it was thrown, was it an accident, bla bla bla. It's not the right tool to do this. If you want to catch team flashers, you sit in spec and watch them all. This won't really help all that much while your playing.
Title: Re: [Server Suggestion] Plugin for Nades.
Post by: SilverQuick on November 13, 2014, 01:01:53 am
I don't like it personally.

It's create too much visual noise with all the colours and it's not really necessary.

On top of that, it's another plugin/overhead that we can live without.
I respect your opinion presto, but I'm seeing too much complains about team flashing on dd2 server and insults aswell, with this we could avoid such things, and it's pretty much working on public since it got installed, besides I wouldn't suggest it if I really think it's not useful, thanks.

To be fair I've not really heard of anyone team flashing, it's quite a rare thing on DD2. It's just messy and although it looks pretty at first, it really is a big distraction and just not needed.

If you wanted this to catch team flashers, you'll be chasing it all day long on who accused who, when it was thrown, where it was thrown, was it an accident, bla bla bla. It's not the right tool to do this. If you want to catch team flashers, you sit in spec and watch them all. This won't really help all that much while your playing.
No presto, you mis-understood me, I'm not chasing after team flashers come on, I just want to lower this thing by installing this plugin that's it, I'm not saying team flashing will disappear, but it's useful and we're trying it on public server, and when it was installed I almost dodged all my teammates flashes especially at long when TS rush and every place ofc and I don't see the distraction thing in it since none of public players have complained about it.
Title: Re: [Server Suggestion] Plugin for Nades.
Post by: NexT on November 13, 2014, 01:04:45 am
Well i kinda agree with presto since he's right we can live without that plugin on dust2 .. in my opinion lets keep dust2 super clean of plugins
Title: Re: [Server Suggestion] Plugin for Nades.
Post by: Ed on November 13, 2014, 08:35:21 am
I don't like it personally.

It's create too much visual noise with all the colours and it's not really necessary.

On top of that, it's another plugin/overhead that we can live without.
I respect your opinion presto, but I'm seeing too much complains about team flashing on dd2 server and insults aswell, with this we could avoid such things, and it's pretty much working on public since it got installed, besides I wouldn't suggest it if I really think it's not useful, thanks.

To be fair I've not really heard of anyone team flashing, it's quite a rare thing on DD2. It's just messy and although it looks pretty at first, it really is a big distraction and just not needed.

If you wanted this to catch team flashers, you'll be chasing it all day long on who accused who, when it was thrown, where it was thrown, was it an accident, bla bla bla. It's not the right tool to do this. If you want to catch team flashers, you sit in spec and watch them all. This won't really help all that much while your playing.
No presto, you mis-understood me, I'm not chasing after team flashers come on, I just want to lower this thing by installing this plugin that's it, I'm not saying team flashing will disappear, but it's useful and we're trying it on public server, and when it was installed I almost dodged all my teammates flashes especially at long when TS rush and every place ofc and I don't see the distraction thing in it since none of public players have complained about it.

Or you could just see if any of your team mates have a nade in their hand or if anything is thrown behind you, look away. That's how I usually avoid team flashers. Although some people team flash on purpose as I have noticed. Specially when rushing, we don't even get inside the B tunnel when a flash is thrown outside of it stopping the rush in it's tracks.
Title: Re: [Server Suggestion] Plugin for Nades.
Post by: presto on November 13, 2014, 09:19:41 am
I don't like it personally.

It's create too much visual noise with all the colours and it's not really necessary.

On top of that, it's another plugin/overhead that we can live without.
I respect your opinion presto, but I'm seeing too much complains about team flashing on dd2 server and insults aswell, with this we could avoid such things, and it's pretty much working on public since it got installed, besides I wouldn't suggest it if I really think it's not useful, thanks.

To be fair I've not really heard of anyone team flashing, it's quite a rare thing on DD2. It's just messy and although it looks pretty at first, it really is a big distraction and just not needed.

If you wanted this to catch team flashers, you'll be chasing it all day long on who accused who, when it was thrown, where it was thrown, was it an accident, bla bla bla. It's not the right tool to do this. If you want to catch team flashers, you sit in spec and watch them all. This won't really help all that much while your playing.
No presto, you mis-understood me, I'm not chasing after team flashers come on, I just want to lower this thing by installing this plugin that's it, I'm not saying team flashing will disappear, but it's useful and we're trying it on public server, and when it was installed I almost dodged all my teammates flashes especially at long when TS rush and every place ofc and I don't see the distraction thing in it since none of public players have complained about it.

I'm still don't quite understood the need for the plugin, just seems pointless.

Team flashing, whether it's deliberate or not, happens. With so many going off at the same time from both teams (from an Admin's point of view as you can view all chat), it's just going to be riddled with various notifications.

I'm sorry I just don't agree with it. I'm trying to find a positive out of this but I genuinely can't.
Title: Re: [Server Suggestion] Plugin for Nades.
Post by: Kappo on November 13, 2014, 11:23:28 am
useless imho, i would rather see this one for rebuying nades https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?p=8009?p=8009 (https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?p=8009?p=8009)
Title: Re: [Server Suggestion] Plugin for Nades.
Post by: Ed on November 13, 2014, 11:27:26 am
useless imho, i would rather see this one for rebuying nades https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?p=8009?p=8009 (https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?p=8009?p=8009)

That could be more useful indeed. Up to @presto
Title: Re: [Server Suggestion] Plugin for Nades.
Post by: NexT on November 13, 2014, 01:11:17 pm
1 flash or 2 .. ur gonna get flashed  :D

whats useful in that
Title: Re: [Server Suggestion] Plugin for Nades.
Post by: Kon^ on November 13, 2014, 01:32:57 pm
love it now i can ban people who flash me.... erm i mean tell them off ofc :P  >:(
Title: Re: [Server Suggestion] Plugin for Nades.
Post by: Kappo on November 13, 2014, 01:39:15 pm
1 flash or 2 .. ur gonna get flashed  :D

whats useful in that


if you meant the one that i posted, come to d2, stand on mid and ill keep rebuying and throwing HE from ct spawn to show you whats useful in that :)
Title: Re: [Server Suggestion] Plugin for Nades.
Post by: NexT on November 13, 2014, 01:51:08 pm
whats the point of throwing He grenades on mid when they do not harm anybody ..

Buytime will also end so i think its useless ..

Spam he is useless
spam smoke its cool for the awping
spam flashbang well thats why we have admins
Title: Re: [Server Suggestion] Plugin for Nades.
Post by: X-KilleR on November 13, 2014, 04:19:59 pm
it is useful in case of rush, like that you will know if your teammate behind you is faking with smoke, HE or just a direct flash, campers like you guys can't understand that , you always camp  :D :D
Title: Re: [Server Suggestion] Plugin for Nades.
Post by: Kappo on November 13, 2014, 05:06:46 pm
whats the point of throwing He grenades on mid when they do not harm anybody ..

Buytime will also end so i think its useless ..

Spam he is useless
spam smoke its cool for the awping
spam flashbang well thats why we have admins

So you are rushing and get 4 HE right to your face, no they wont harm you at all lol

Server rules: 11. Cannot rebuy/spam grenades.

should we focus on catching cheaters and other rule breakers or kids rebuying nades

buytime is also too long, i was suggesting to cut it down but no response
Title: Re: [Server Suggestion] Plugin for Nades.
Post by: Lacoste on November 13, 2014, 05:28:24 pm
keep dd2 server with less plugins better, please.
Title: Re: [Server Suggestion] Plugin for Nades.
Post by: NexT on November 14, 2014, 03:40:54 pm
If you have buytime available till people rush then thats ugly lol thats why i was saying the plugin is useless because till they reach the CT side you shouldn't be able to buy anymore
Title: Re: [Server Suggestion] Plugin for Nades.
Post by: LatviaNNNNNNNNN on November 14, 2014, 06:18:05 pm
Well i personally can say, im absolutely not happy with this,
I mean when i rush, i got like every round tf sometimes that happens in halfway.
BUt can agree with that "then less plugins in dd2 then better"
Title: Re: [Server Suggestion] Plugin for Nades.
Post by: SilverQuick on November 14, 2014, 06:23:47 pm
Alright guys this isn't about bytime or something, it's about that plugin, please stay on topic and if we don't want it on dd2 then just lock this topic or everyone will be warned for spam, final decision?
Title: Re: [Server Suggestion] Plugin for Nades.
Post by: Ed on November 15, 2014, 08:58:09 am
Alright guys this isn't about bytime or something, it's about that plugin, please stay on topic and if we don't want it on dd2 then just lock this topic or everyone will be warned for spam, final decision?

Your suggestion was already rejected by Presto.
That's why people are talking about buytimes as lowering the time, would then in turn don't need such plugins like nade limiters etc.
Title: Re: [Server Suggestion] Plugin for Nades.
Post by: X-KilleR on November 15, 2014, 11:18:55 am
the idea is gd, but the server now run perfectly since last update, the problem is adding plugin will lower some server performance .About lowering buy time, it will be discussed
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