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Title: [JB] Rule Suggestion
Post by: Fisu on October 27, 2014, 09:02:27 am
Hey

I've noticed, or im blind, that there is no: Officer can't troll rule. I remember getting kicked many times cause I said, firstlastfirslastfirst reaction jump etc. They do troll again and it's annoying.

The vent time is not clear to, as reasonable time to leave the vent is quite understandable, but some CT have the feeling to give 5 sec and count these 5 sec in 2 seconds and when they join vent they instant kill the guy even if he left the vent from the other side, which means he followed the command. When I told the CT guy that he counted to fast he said, thats the point of beeing a ct, (lol)

Also maby add the rule, count in seconds ^^

TY
Title: Re: [JB] Rule Suggestion
Post by: Ḏ℮ηїαł on October 27, 2014, 09:09:02 am
Yeah I agree, it's bloody annoying when the CT's count 5 seconds in literally 1.. the 5 seconds count should count from the timer at the bottom or wherever it is showing the round time.
Title: Re: [JB] Rule Suggestion
Post by: 'PL' on October 27, 2014, 11:59:49 am
Simply put, people can not naturally count in a situation undergoing pressure and stress. Besides, if u tell him once he ought to pay attention next time about it. Why make a rule about it :x
Title: Re: [JB] Rule Suggestion
Post by: Fisu on October 27, 2014, 12:00:58 pm
Cause they do not pay attention, with a rule, they have to listen or they get punished, once they get punished, they wont do that mistake ;)
Title: Re: [JB] Rule Suggestion
Post by: Noex' on October 27, 2014, 02:21:22 pm
Consult with an admin if he isn't counting 5 seconds also trolling isn't lastsdjklvdsjkvnkdsfjnk reaction it's allowed to mix it so you can trick people trolling is how can i say it freeshoting people and telling them it's a mistake or misclick or screaming on your mic

it's natural for someone to count the 5 seconds like it's 2 or 1 because they may be stressed a bit cause of rebelers .
Title: Re: [JB] Rule Suggestion
Post by: Fisu on October 27, 2014, 02:39:29 pm
Noex are you kidding?`

Is it normal for me to freekill 20 players cause I'm stressed? Can I use that as an excuse? Exactly I can't.

Since when you you know the rules better than admins/HA? I got slayed and kicked for saying lastfirstlastfirst reaction, as that is trolling and forbidden, was forbidden.

Only because some "Cts" feel stressed / EVERY round doesn't mean Ts have to pay for it, a report wont work, as there's no rule saying they must count like human beeings, or then make 10 it like count from 10 seconds, if they feel like countig fast, it wll last 5 :)
Title: Re: [JB] Rule Suggestion
Post by: Noex' on October 27, 2014, 02:43:04 pm
Noex are you kidding?`

Is it normal for me to freekill 20 players cause I'm stressed? Can I use that as an excuse? Exactly I can't.

Since when you you know the rules better than admins/HA? I got slayed and kicked for saying lastfirstlastfirst reaction, as that is trolling and forbidden, was forbidden.

Only because some "Cts" feel stressed / EVERY round doesn't mean Ts have to pay for it, a report wont work, as there's no rule saying they must count like human beeings, or then make 10 it like count from 10 seconds, if they feel like countig fast, it wll last 5 :)

Stressed by the rebelers .... i never seen a rule that says mixing lastfirstlastfirst reaction is forbidden + shouldn't you be warned or something since it's kinda harsh kicking you for that. Also Ct's aren't stressed every round only the rounds when they have 3+ rebelers i never had a problem with counting as i'm not a new commander but give chances to newer commanders as they are still in the learning process of commanding

Imo people are not dumb and i think 95% already knows they can't troll so i say no to that rule.

About the counting rule an admin can always tell them not to rush with counting or get him another Ct to help if the ratio allows it .
Title: Re: [JB] Rule Suggestion
Post by: Fisu on October 27, 2014, 02:58:06 pm
It was here as I said, you werent born when that rule existed. / I don't quite remember how but I know it was forbidden to mix that, ray used to do that first and after that we werent allowed anymore.

Noex you just don't get the point.

If there's a rule stating you have to count normally, admins can force them to count slowly, while if there isnt admins cant punish them for counting fast.

Get it now?
Title: Re: [JB] Rule Suggestion
Post by: BuddyTrollsten on October 27, 2014, 03:04:57 pm
If you're stressed , add me somewhere.
I'll give you free "Therapy" 8)
Title: Re: [JB] Rule Suggestion
Post by: Fisu on October 27, 2014, 03:09:07 pm
If you're stressed , add me somewhere.
I'll give you free "Therapy" 8)

Do not it may lead you to visit a serious therapy :P
Title: Re: [JB] Rule Suggestion
Post by: Noex' on October 27, 2014, 05:49:13 pm
It was here as I said, you werent born when that rule existed. / I don't quite remember how but I know it was forbidden to mix that, ray used to do that first and after that we werent allowed anymore.

Noex you just don't get the point.

If there's a rule stating you have to count normally, admins can force them to count slowly, while if there isnt admins cant punish them for counting fast.

Get it now?

Sorry i'm not an oldie so i didn't know it's not allowed :D

I don't think there should be a counting rule but for trolling i guess and if you can add it like "By playing as a guard you automatically agree to follow the rules of the server" and add "No trolling and freekilling" idk
Title: Re: [JB] Rule Suggestion
Post by: Fisu on October 27, 2014, 07:01:27 pm
omg... you just dont get it ^^
Title: Re: [JB] Rule Suggestion
Post by: ♥Pinky~GirliciousKitten♥ on October 28, 2014, 04:48:30 pm
Agreed on what u said! some cts actually do that But its good when admins are online, they tell them to clearly count vent time and also to not Over
command!
Title: Re: [JB] Rule Suggestion
Post by: Pringles on November 24, 2014, 11:34:19 pm
There is no need in adding such a rule.

It's common sense and if you see someone trolling constantly, feel free to report him.
Title: Re: [JB] Rule Suggestion
Post by: Cowboy on November 25, 2014, 12:07:05 am
i suggest to give vent time 30 secs so players gonna use o'clock as before(old rule).
Title: Re: [JB] Rule Suggestion
Post by: Fisu on November 25, 2014, 07:10:34 am
There is no need in adding such a rule.

It's common sense and if you see someone trolling constantly, feel free to report him.


if there's no rule about it, the report is invalid. You do use brain sometimes do you? :P :D

Clearify the rules: -If you give the vent time to leave it, the CT CANNOT kill you once you're outside the vent.  - Count in SECONDS / OR add the clock back and tell them exactly at what time he must be out.

Ain't so much work to do this..
Title: Re: [JB] Rule Suggestion
Post by: Pringles on November 25, 2014, 10:16:39 am
There is no need in adding such a rule.

It's common sense and if you see someone trolling constantly, feel free to report him.


if there's no rule about it, the report is invalid. You do use brain sometimes do you? :P :D

Clearify the rules: -If you give the vent time to leave it, the CT CANNOT kill you once you're outside the vent.  - Count in SECONDS / OR add the clock back and tell them exactly at what time he must be out.

Ain't so much work to do this..

The Officers must give a reasonable amount of time to the Prisoners to leave the vent.

It's not even common sense, it's a rule.

19. If a prisoner enters the vent an officer is not allowed to kill him/her instantly. Instead he/she must give the prisoner reasonable amount of time to leave the vent.
20. Officers are allowed to enter the vent at any time given, but if they spot a prisoner in the vent (in a commanded day) they must follow rule 19.


And anyway the report won't be invalid if it's not a rule.

e.g : Officers who enable FFA to kill their teammates. It's not in the rules that it's not allowed to do it. It's common sense.
Title: Re: [JB] Rule Suggestion
Post by: Fisu on November 25, 2014, 10:20:35 am
I don't think you understand what exactly I am trying to explain.

They do say, you have 5 seconds to leave the vent. But it isn't possible due the fact they finish counting after 1 second. So they instant kill you even if you leave the vent. How you wanna report? Won't solve anything they wont get banned by doing this, they get banned after doing this several times.

Do you get me? :P
Title: Re: [JB] Rule Suggestion
Post by: Pringles on November 25, 2014, 10:55:51 am
I don't think you understand what exactly I am trying to explain.

They do say, you have 5 seconds to leave the vent. But it isn't possible due the fact they finish counting after 1 second. So they instant kill you even if you leave the vent. How you wanna report? Won't solve anything they wont get banned by doing this, they get banned after doing this several times.

Do you get me? :P

Record such players and report them.

They have to give a reasonable amount.  I don't know why you say I don't understand since you are the one not to undersand ;)

Giving a countdown of "5 seconds" in 1 second are not 5 seconds but 1 and giving 1 second to leave the vent is not giving a reasonable amount of time because the prisoner has not enough time to go back to his cell. Officers are obliged to give a resonable amount of time according to the size of the vent (often : 5 seconds).

Cheers.
Title: Re: [JB] Rule Suggestion
Post by: Fisu on November 25, 2014, 10:59:06 am
Tell me Refersh if you see a ct not giving the ammout of time requested from the rules which action you do against him? You warn him, kick him and then ct ban him? Right? So in order to make this happen we need 3 reports of 1 player am I right?
Title: Re: [JB] Rule Suggestion
Post by: Pringles on November 25, 2014, 11:02:03 am
Tell me Refersh if you see a ct not giving the ammout of time requested from the rules which action you do against him? You warn him, kick him and then ct ban him? Right? So in order to make this happen we need 3 reports of 1 player am I right?

No, you only need 1 report.

If the player has already been for exemple banned from the CT Team then he will be surely banned again from the CT Team for a higher amount of time.

We need to keep track on such players even when there are no Admins in the server.

Cheers.
Title: Re: [JB] Rule Suggestion
Post by: Fisu on November 25, 2014, 12:13:54 pm
So you'll instant ban everyone who gets reported?
Title: Re: [JB] Rule Suggestion
Post by: Pringles on November 25, 2014, 12:30:38 pm
So you'll instant ban everyone who gets reported?

It's up to the Report Panel.

And no, please, read my post clearly.
Title: Re: [JB] Rule Suggestion
Post by: Fisu on November 25, 2014, 12:32:15 pm
So you'll instant ban everyone who gets reported?

It's up to the Report Panel.

And no, please, read my post clearly.


I am in the report panel. that is why I'm asking you. Each CT needs 3 reports to issue a ban on him (except for the guys that has been banned before). right?
Title: Re: [JB] Rule Suggestion
Post by: Ed on November 25, 2014, 02:35:36 pm
Report panel doesn't deal with CT bans.
You can give out that as a punishment, but anything reported and is confirmed valid results in a server ban not a CT ban.

Therefore, you only issue server bans as a report panelist, it is your decision on how much depending on the severity of the offence.
Title: Re: [JB] Rule Suggestion
Post by: Fisu on November 25, 2014, 02:47:18 pm
Report panel doesn't deal with CT bans.
You can give out that as a punishment, but anything reported and is confirmed valid results in a server ban not a CT ban.

Therefore, you only issue server bans as a report panelist, it is your decision on how much depending on the severity of the offence.

(I know) I was just actually waiting for the reply of Refresh and his theory. hihi.

Why is it so bad to just clearfy the rules by adding these ones I suggested? =)
Title: Re: [JB] Rule Suggestion
Post by: Ed on November 25, 2014, 03:03:20 pm
Report panel doesn't deal with CT bans.
You can give out that as a punishment, but anything reported and is confirmed valid results in a server ban not a CT ban.

Therefore, you only issue server bans as a report panelist, it is your decision on how much depending on the severity of the offence.

(I know) I was just actually waiting for the reply of Refresh and his theory. hihi.

Why is it so bad to just clearfy the rules by adding these ones I suggested? =)

Because the things you are suggesting is common sense. And if a CT is doing his own "whatever" it will be classed as laming and he might get a ban for it. Count properly, all commands must be clear. If people cannot understand it, perhaps there will be more admin work soon to do. We will see.
Title: Re: [JB] Rule Suggestion
Post by: Fisu on November 25, 2014, 03:05:51 pm
Alright you may lock this now =)
Title: Re: [JB] Rule Suggestion
Post by: Pringles on November 26, 2014, 03:45:53 pm
Archived.