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Title: [Dropped]NovemberRain
Post by: G0DL1K3 on July 27, 2014, 01:41:02 am
Admin: NovemberRain
Server: Jailbreak
Date & Time: 27/07/14    2.30 am
Complaint: During a nade war on the jailbreak server i was throwing smoke nades into a basketball ring with no one around, is that a reason to ban someone for 1 day??? Banning someone for throwing smoke nades during a nade war is redicoulous!! please Revieuw you're admins......
Other Evidence (screenshots, demos...):  Well i He banned me no evdence needed
Title: Re: [Dropped]NovemberRain
Post by: Card Clasher on July 27, 2014, 01:42:31 am
Why don't you people read the stickies...

http://www.ambrosia-servers.eu/community/index.php?topic=11.0 (http://www.ambrosia-servers.eu/community/index.php?topic=11.0) <== Read this and edit your post.
Title: Re: [Dropped]NovemberRain
Post by: rhyppah on July 27, 2014, 01:43:37 am
I think you should watch your self before you judge others!
Title: Re: [Dropped]NovemberRain
Post by: terraboN on July 27, 2014, 01:53:29 am
@rhyppah Doesn't matter how he has behaved recently, doesn't give the right for an admin to ban someone unfairly. Even though there could be a whole story behind the ban which we don't know as of yet.
Title: Re: [Dropped]NovemberRain
Post by: G0DL1K3 on July 27, 2014, 01:55:23 am
After he banned me for the 'in he's eyes main reason' he told me alot happened before, but i think its not up to him to ban me for  what happened before :/
Title: Re: [Dropped]NovemberRain
Post by: NovemberRaiN` on July 27, 2014, 01:56:58 am
Story is simple: I read topics made about him, I get spammed via PM, people message me on Steam, message me on TS3 - what do all these things have in common? Thats right, complains about this guy. He got so many warnings before, admins went too soft on him, he didn't even get punished a single time. Well, this last time was my last nerve with him, someone came on TS3, complained about him, sent me proof, and I immediately went on Jailbreak to ban him for 1 day. Next time you break rules it will be 1 week.
It is totally up to me to ban you if you break 80% of the rules in Jailbreak server.
Title: Re: [Dropped]NovemberRain
Post by: G0DL1K3 on July 27, 2014, 01:58:34 am
show the proof! becuase nothing happened today... i was trying hard to not break the rules common show it!




Thats right no proof just bluffing.....
Title: Re: [Dropped]NovemberRain
Post by: WILLIE on July 27, 2014, 02:04:30 am
Story is simple: I read topics made about him, I get spammed via PM, people message me on Steam, message me on TS3 - what do all these things have in common? Thats right, complains about this guy. He got so many warnings before, admins went too soft on him, he didn't even get punished a single time. Well, this last time was my last nerve with him, someone came on TS3, complained about him, sent me proof, and I immediately went on Jailbreak to ban him for 1 day. Next time you break rules it will be 1 week.
It is totally up to me to ban you if you break 80% of the rules in Jailbreak server.

we would like to see ze proof
Title: Re: [Dropped]NovemberRain
Post by: 'PL' on July 27, 2014, 02:05:20 am
Can we see this proof, or is restricted from the public?

It will make your ban worthy, otherwise is heavily based on your jurisdiction :D
Title: Re: [Dropped]NovemberRain
Post by: G0DL1K3 on July 27, 2014, 02:06:28 am
if he lied about the proof i would like to see him demoted :)
Title: Re: [Dropped]NovemberRain
Post by: WILLIE on July 27, 2014, 02:07:27 am
if he lied about the proof i would like to see him demoted :)

sorry, wont happen :D
Title: Re: [Dropped]NovemberRain
Post by: 'PL' on July 27, 2014, 02:08:15 am
if he lied about the proof i would like to see him demoted :)
Now hold on there godlike, for 1 wrong and hasty ban doesn't mean he need to hit the showers.

Just wait for him to respond :D
I would strongly encourage the a head admin assistant to ban somebody without proof is unfavorable.
Title: Re: [Dropped]NovemberRain
Post by: Makiavel on July 27, 2014, 02:09:14 am
To be completely honest, your behaviour is horrible. Had I not banned you from the shoutbox to force you to come here, you would have kept arguing and insulting multiple of our admins/members. It wouldn't surprise me if your ingame behaviour was as bad.

You're telling you've asked to be forgiven because you yourself know you have been breaking the rules and that it won't happen again (taken from the shoutbox & your topic) yet the same day, you cause an incident on the forums.

I seriously think that a day to make you think about your actions be they on the shoutbox or on the server is not a bad idea since you have not been handling this whole case in a mature way but instead rather poorly which by itself should be enough to deny this Staff Complaint.

There's really no need for proof either, this topic speaks for itself as you're admitting your bad behaviour even just today.. http://www.ambrosia-servers.eu/community/index.php?topic=27556.msg346915#msg346915 (http://www.ambrosia-servers.eu/community/index.php?topic=27556.msg346915#msg346915)
Title: Re: [Dropped]NovemberRain
Post by: G0DL1K3 on July 27, 2014, 02:09:54 am
im not saying i did not throw smoke nades but he said he had proof about something else did'nt he?
Title: Re: [Dropped]NovemberRain
Post by: 'PL' on July 27, 2014, 02:12:10 am
For behavior problems on forums, you have forum moderations. For servers you need demo or screenshot proof. Anyway NovemberRain won't lose a single raindrop if he makes the evidence public.
Title: Re: [Dropped]NovemberRain
Post by: Pringles on July 27, 2014, 02:12:41 am
Story is simple: I read topics made about him, I get spammed via PM, people message me on Steam, message me on TS3 - what do all these things have in common? Thats right, complains about this guy. He got so many warnings before, admins went too soft on him, he didn't even get punished a single time. Well, this last time was my last nerve with him, someone came on TS3, complained about him, sent me proof, and I immediately went on Jailbreak to ban him for 1 day. Next time you break rules it will be 1 week.
It is totally up to me to ban you if you break 80% of the rules in Jailbreak server.

Check logs please.

I have kicked/slayed this guy several times for breaking the rules as a CT and as a Terrorist.

You took the good decision and that's all.

There is nothing to complain about.

show the proof! becuase nothing happened today... i was trying hard to not break the rules common show it!




Thats right no proof just bluffing.....

Logs can be checked and too many people complained about your ridiculous behaviour that you are showing above.

So I advise you to improve it and to read the rules if you don't want this to happen again.

Cheers.
Title: Re: [Dropped]NovemberRain
Post by: G0DL1K3 on July 27, 2014, 02:13:41 am
Look he's not allowed to ban me for problems wich happened days ago and wich are solved.....
Title: Re: [Dropped]NovemberRain
Post by: DonTodo # on July 27, 2014, 02:14:28 am
Story is simple: I read topics made about him, I get spammed via PM, people message me on Steam, message me on TS3 - what do all these things have in common? Thats right, complains about this guy. He got so many warnings before, admins went too soft on him, he didn't even get punished a single time. Well, this last time was my last nerve with him, someone came on TS3, complained about him, sent me proof, and I immediately went on Jailbreak to ban him for 1 day. Next time you break rules it will be 1 week.
It is totally up to me to ban you if you break 80% of the rules in Jailbreak server.

Check logs please.

 I have kicked/slayed this guy several times for breaking rules.

You took the good decision and that's all.

There is nothing to complain about.


So u punished him already for offenses?
Doesnt mean he can afterwards get banned AGAIN for the same stuff.
Title: Re: [Dropped]NovemberRain
Post by: Card Clasher on July 27, 2014, 02:14:41 am
if he lied about the proof i would like to see him demoted :)

Yeah, no..

To be honest I received a lot of complaints as well about you, I just didn't bother with it. I also have warned you many times on the server.. I strongly recommend you to fix your attitude within a complaint because it does not help you at all, and gives a bad image to yourself.

e.g:
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please Revieuw you're admins......

We do know who to choose. Also, why didn't you just stop moaning over the shoutbox when I told you not to and come here ? You kept going on until you got yourself banned. Be more patient.
Title: Re: [Dropped]NovemberRain
Post by: WILLIE on July 27, 2014, 02:15:05 am
Let the big guys deal with this 'trial admin'

BURRRRRRN :D

If you have nothing to say, stop posting this is spam - CC
Title: Re: [Dropped]NovemberRain
Post by: 'PL' on July 27, 2014, 02:16:39 am
Story is simple: I read topics made about him, I get spammed via PM, people message me on Steam, message me on TS3 - what do all these things have in common? Thats right, complains about this guy. He got so many warnings before, admins went too soft on him, he didn't even get punished a single time. Well, this last time was my last nerve with him, someone came on TS3, complained about him, sent me proof, and I immediately went on Jailbreak to ban him for 1 day. Next time you break rules it will be 1 week.
It is totally up to me to ban you if you break 80% of the rules in Jailbreak server.

Check logs please.

 I have kicked/slayed this guy several times for breaking rules.

You took the good decision and that's all.

There is nothing to complain about.


So u punished him already for offenses?
Doesnt mean he can afterwards get banned AGAIN for the same stuff.

Unless he got complained from somebody with legitimate and valid evidence today or after the administrative discourse for something more heavy or at least repetitive which adds increments to the ban.

Title: Re: [Dropped]NovemberRain
Post by: NovemberRaiN` on July 27, 2014, 02:19:43 am
Okay, I will make this simple and easy to understand, and give you exact reasons why.

1. First impressions when I joined Jailbreak, I was using another nickname so nobody knew I was there. You free killed a bunch of people inside the cage, when I told you they have a free day, you didn't bother replying.
2. Your nickname was racist and inappropriate, and an admin changed it.
3. You got reported on the forums, for which you deserved your CT ban. Read here: http://www.ambrosia-servers.eu/community/index.php?topic=27517.msg346155;boardseen#new (http://www.ambrosia-servers.eu/community/index.php?topic=27517.msg346155;boardseen#new) - as far as I see Nutella banned you for 3 hours because you were insulting members.
4. Insulting and swearing, also when I was in the server, and another admin said to me that you were swearing, and admins gave you a couple of warnings.
5. People constantly come to me to complain about you - through PM, through Steam chat, Teamspeak 3 as well.
6. A few people know you, and those who do know you already don't like you, because you are really toxic to the server.
7. Logs can be checked for your offenses.
8. Many people tell me that you constantly self-transfer to CT team without permission or vote from the general public of Jailbreak.
9. Quite a few people who play Jailbreak can be witnesses that you do break the rules quite often. Even when I joined the server you were disrupting.
10. As I mentioned, people gave you warnings, you apologized, still you managed to get yourself into trouble.
11. I'm pretty sure you don't even know the rules, but for some reason you are constantly as a CT.

I banned you for 1 day, but if you ask me its not enough. I also CT banned you, and even in that very moment I banned you, you started cursing on the mic.
If you ask me, with all these offenses, you deserve more than 1 day. Next time it will be increased unless you change your attitude.

All of you asking for proof, some of it is in the logs, other is my jurisdiction and what I've seen happening on server/forums, and player complains to me via chat, players that I trust won't lie to me, and players that will not just make up stories about a random new player breaking rules.

Edit: From now in sami and I will be monitoring our admins, and what they do and do not do on the server, because as seen on your report case, some admins just did not bother to deal with all this rule-breaking.
Title: Re: [Dropped]NovemberRain
Post by: G0DL1K3 on July 27, 2014, 02:22:35 am
look every one can say he was undercover on the servers you sherlock holmes and once again you can't ban for things wich happened before and where's the proof smartass -.-


everything you're saying now happened before so please stop acting like a child! Today nothing happened... check the logs please!!!!
Title: Re: [Dropped]NovemberRain
Post by: Dr.Richtofen on July 27, 2014, 02:25:25 am
look every one can say he was undercover on the servers you sherlock holmes and once again you can't ban for things wich happened before and where's the proof smartass -.-
Okay I can somewhat agree to this guy.

Give him the darn evidence from logs and he'll bugger off.
Title: Re: [Dropped]NovemberRain
Post by: G0DL1K3 on July 27, 2014, 02:26:31 am
Ye show me the proof wich does not exist i wanna play again....
Title: Re: [Dropped]NovemberRain
Post by: Makiavel on July 27, 2014, 02:28:24 am
Ye show me the proof wich does not exist i wanna play again....

Fine. I'll make some of the evidence public instead then.

Now let me highlight some behaviour problems that G0DL1k3 has. Now, I will not add other people's logs as it would result in their IP and anonymity being shared while this isn't the point of this post and complaint. Do note that this however is only the most recent logs and date of yesterday. The day he has gotten banned. It so happens that during many of his infractions however, he was not punished due to the lack of administrators and as thus was generally not punished twice for the same incident. On one moment, he was kicked by Shiro from the CT team and threatened of being CT banned (hence the last line.)

Generally, his chat brings negative experience to the player and often have no good or great content whatsoever, it's also worth noting that there is a ton of spamming that I did not include but do generally contribute to a negative experience in game.

Below are the logs of the insulting:

 <font color=red>G0DLiK3//underagegirls . org</font> : <font color=green>cocksucker..</font>

<font color=red>G0DLiK3//underagegirls . org</font> : <font color=green>heal me bitchessssssssssss 2 hp left!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</font>

<font color=red>G0DLiK3//underagegirls . org</font> : <font color=green>heal me bitchesssssssssssss</font>

<font color=red>G0DLiK3//underagegirls . org</font> : <font color=green>pink and red *******</font>

<font color=red>G0DLiK3//underagegirls . org</font> : <font color=green>gaymic</font>

<font color=red>*DEAD*G0DLiK3//underagegirls . org</font> : <font color=green>wtf??????</font>

<font color=red>*DEAD*G0DLiK3//underagegirls . org</font> : <font color=green>*****</font>

<font color=red>*DEAD*G0DLiK3//underagegirls . org</font> : <font color=green>gaaaaaaaaaaaaaay</font>

<font color=red>G0DLiK3//underagegirls . org</font> : <font color=green>smd</font>

<font color=red>*DEAD*G0DLiK3//underagegirls . org</font> : <font color=green>any admins on?????</font>

<font color=red>*DEAD*G0DLiK3//underagegirls . org</font> : <font color=green>to suck my d</font>

<font color=red>*DEAD*G0DLiK3//underagegirls . org</font> : <font color=green>tss im leaving with such a shitty admins like shiro ,))))))))))</font>


This was a screenshot posted on your admin application:

(http://i.imgur.com/s4modNw.png)

Also, let me remind you that just because one has already gotten punished once for an incident does not mean that they will not be counted towards an harsher punishment. It is well within an administrators right to take them into account before providing a punishment and does not break any rule unlike what some of you seem to mention. Even if we did warn you multiple time in the past and we consider the case closed, we are very well allowed to provide an harsher punishment later on and we will if we feel this is required due to the player not listening which I believe is what November thought.

Title: Re: [Dropped]NovemberRain
Post by: ♥Pinky~GirliciousKitten♥ on July 27, 2014, 02:30:20 am
Already warned/kicked this guy several times so for while he stoped so ofc next time it was ban for him! anyway this guy behaviour is very bad.
me proto and shiro already punished this guy many times. but he never changed! good enough u got banned! no need to  whine cuz u did bad u get bad . fair enough
Title: Re: [Dropped]NovemberRain
Post by: G0DL1K3 on July 27, 2014, 02:30:48 am
That's what happened before you can not ban me for, that other staff took care of my bad behavior on the server when it all happened.... look where is the proof of me freekilling today? im intrested because i dont remember such thing ;) you lied alot in you're posts man and its pissing me off.....  and almost all of those things were to someone wich i was joking with so please dont cry like my 5 years old sister thank you ;)
Title: Re: [Dropped]NovemberRain
Post by: dEEE on July 27, 2014, 02:31:14 am
Alright.

I've warned you so many, so many times and I tried to keep a cool attitude with you. However, you keep on doing the exact opposite of what you're told not to do.

I was going to report you like 3 days ago, but I cooled off and hoped you'd avoid insulting. BUT, NO!

You should review your attitude!

Your ban was well deserved, you still insulted after getting warned several times.
Title: Re: [Dropped]NovemberRain
Post by: 'PL' on July 27, 2014, 02:31:34 am
look every one can say he was undercover on the servers you sherlock holmes and once again you can't ban for things wich happened before and where's the proof smartass -.-
Okay I can somewhat agree to this guy.

Give him the darn evidence from logs and he'll bugger off.
Such brotherly Love
Godlike supports the other Godlike.
Title: Re: [Dropped]NovemberRain
Post by: NovemberRaiN` on July 27, 2014, 02:33:02 am
Also to add - banned by Snap as well for 1 hour, same reason.
Are you happy now? Evidence from logs, witnesses and my personal view. I don't need to prove myself that I was on the server, you either believe it or you don't. Just because people don't see me there doesn't mean that I don't know whats going on.
I repeat, 1 more insult, even if it is calling someone idiot or stupid, it will result in a longer ban for you.

Edit: Stop repeating yourself. As I said, a member sent me his chat, and how he got killed, asked you why, and told you that he got freekilled, and you didn't bother replying. BEFORE THAT, I saw you freekilling with my own eyes - examples: killing inside the cage, not giving warning shots as well.

And yes, of course we can ban you for previous offenses, just because it happened yesterday, and we banned you today, doesn't mean its not right. You can cheat today, that doesn't meant that we can't ban you tomorrow (example).
Title: Re: [Dropped]NovemberRain
Post by: Makiavel on July 27, 2014, 02:37:25 am
Dropped with consent of High Staff.

Lack of proof and ban was justified. I'd recommend that before attempting to look at our admins' behaviours and criticising them, you look at yours. I can honestly say that you have been left easy due to the Admins' not noticing your attitude or perhaps not acting for it as it was not enough on the moment. Please note that acting in such a way in the future will get you harsher punishments looking at more of your logs. If you feel as though you are unable to control yourself then I would recommend leaving the server until you feel better as such attitude is not tolerated on the servers.

If you need help in improving your behaviour, then private message me and we can look into solutions from there on.
Title: Re: [Dropped]NovemberRain
Post by: ~RoN on July 27, 2014, 10:55:45 pm
sorry maki but i had to reply in this topic :).

Well mister godlike you know that you have behavior problems for years now so please do follow our rules and common sens rules then we can continue talking about it. After looking at those screenshots and logs, i would have banned you for more then one day you are lucky VERY lucky.
Please fix this behavior as fast as possible otherwise this will not get long.

RoN