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Recruitment & Justice => Staff Complaints & Misconduct => Resolved Staff Complaints => Topic started by: Pirate on May 03, 2014, 09:19:06 pm
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BUILD 6027 SERVER (0 CRC)
Server # 50
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[AMXBans] You have been banned from this Server by Admin gAnX.
[AMXBans] There are 6 days, 23 hours, 58 minutes and 5 seconds left of your ban.
[AMXBans] Banned Nickname: El Piraten
[AMXBans] Reason: 'Swearing'
[AMXBans] You can complain about your ban @ www.ambrosia-servers.eu (http://www.ambrosia-servers.eu)
[AMXBans] Your SteamID: 'STEAM_0:1:52872545'
[AMXBans] Your IP: '....
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Kicked : You are BANNED. Check your console.
seriously ? ganx didnt like my conversation with my friend ? you must be kidding . unban me pls asap .
Had a banter with my friend , Mr.ganx did not like it , considered as a rude attitude . . Under these circumstances , you can not ban player for a week . Kick , warn , but not ban for a week .
Also , personally , in the first place you have to do like conversation with player . If it does not work , then kick , ban .
From my point of view , unfair ban for a week .
Regards
El Piraten
Admin:ganx
Server:dd2
Date & Time:few hours ago
Complaint: abuse . banter not a reason for a ban. did not insult anyone
Other Evidence (screenshots, demos...):mr.ganx got them i believe so
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Lets see what ganx has to say. And please use our official form.
Admin:
Server:
Date & Time:
Complaint:
Other Evidence (screenshots, demos...):
http://www.ambrosia-servers.eu/community/index.php?topic=11.0 (http://www.ambrosia-servers.eu/community/index.php?topic=11.0)
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BUILD 6027 SERVER (0 CRC)
Server # 50
[AMXBans] ===============================================
[AMXBans] You have been banned from this Server by Admin gAnX.
[AMXBans] There are 6 days, 23 hours, 58 minutes and 5 seconds left of your ban.
[AMXBans] Banned Nickname: El Piraten
[AMXBans] Reason: 'Swearing'
[AMXBans] You can complain about your ban @ www.ambrosia-servers.eu (http://www.ambrosia-servers.eu)
[AMXBans] Your SteamID: 'STEAM_0:1:52872545'
[AMXBans] Your IP: '....
[AMXBans] ===============================================
Kicked : You are BANNED. Check your console.
seriously ? ganx didnt like my conversation with my friend ? you must be kidding . unban me pls asap .
Had a banter with my friend , Mr.ganx did not like it , considered as a rude attitude . . Under these circumstances , you can not ban player for a week . Kick , warn , but not ban for a week .
Also , personally , in the first place you have to do like conversation with player . If it does not work , then kick , ban .
From my point of view , unfair ban for a week .
Regards
El Piraten
Mr.ganx , bring on logs . perhaps there we will find out . as I said above , had a banter with my mate . where is the flopping problem ? it is a bit too much . shize , i have to waste my time for unban and complains because someone been a in bad mood and considered my behaviour rude . jeez ....
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dont u see that the ban is indeed unfair?:DD there is no evidence provided by the admin anyways =D
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Urggg 1 week is 2 much and he was joking with his friend so...
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dont u see that the ban is indeed unfair?:DD there is no evidence provided by the admin anyways =D
evidence ? for swearing ?
it's a temp ban ... what kind of evidence do you want ? :)
I guess logs would be checked.
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dont u see that the ban is indeed unfair?:DD there is no evidence provided by the admin anyways =D
evidence ? for swearing ?
it's a temp ban ... what kind of evidence do you want ? :)
I guess logs would be checked.
1 week, should atleast take screenshots, trust me u dont wana get banned for a whole week, either way provide the logs :D
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yeah , temp ban . 1 week for what ? for ducks sake , there wasnt crime . it is inadequate ! i could give you hell of a lot of ss where admins swear , and you too ! shame i do not have them ! oh Ray ! frustration in here with you .
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Be patient please and it will be sorted asap.
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If you make complaint report, you must provide evidence yourself.
If you want to see evidence from admin or High Staff, make an unban request.
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What proof man ? Just chek the logs bro .... It's swearing not aimbot .... Just chek the logs
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Unfortunately I dont have any logs but I do have 2 screenshots. He was warned mutiple times by myself and Linkas. He was told in 'say' and 'psay'. I dont believe any user especially one that is not my friend should be speaking to any admin with that attitude. Cocky know it all. Disgusting.
http://imgur.com/tRbhq42 (http://imgur.com/tRbhq42)
http://i.imgur.com/nMFlLbR.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/nMFlLbR.jpg)
He was telling me I had no right to speak to him after I gave him the first warning.
"who are you, i dont even know you"
"dont talk to me"
Along those lines. I hope Linkas can back me up on this matter as he was also in the game.
After reading his Unban request which was denied you can see he has an attitude problem, I dont care that he had banter with his friend. Bad language is bad language, there is no rule stating that I should not warn/punish him for f'ing and what not with another player. Just because they are RL friends does not excuse him from the rules. He was given a week because he persisted to swear in private chat towards me
@ black star the d3vil pro - "What proof man ? Just chek the logs bro .... It's swearing not aimbot .... Just chek the logs"
So what if its not aimbot, he broke 2 rules. Ok maybe 1 week might of been a little to long but he should be punished.
2. Obey and respect ALL admins and players.
9. No flame or swearing.
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judging ganx screenshot, el piraten u are swearing, you did a mistake, and before you were banned , he warned you, so he did his job correctly, but imho the lenght of the ban can be lower than a week, doesn't mean ganx did a mistake with a week ban, but just to solve this , i suggest to lower his ban to 3 days, with a warning of more ban if he do it again
now it is your call guys, peace
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@ganks: Just explaining dark's point, he meant there's no need for evidence like aimbot.. it's swearing and evidence is logs.
That's what he meant.
And on-topic: You told me you respect admins doing their job right ? Well he did his job and asked you to stop swearing multiples times and you kept ignoring him and telling him you don't know him.
That's not someone who actually respects admins is it ??
#JustSaying
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@ganks: Just explaining dark's point, he meant there's no need for evidence like aimbot.. it's swearing and evidence is logs.
That's what he meant.
Misread. Sorry.
His unban request which was denied said and I qoute
"seriously ? ganx didnt like my conversation with my friend ? you must be kidding . unban me pls asap .ps ganx , id say u an immature idiot . kepp me banned after my words but it is true .
after so long time decided to play in lovely ambro , and here you go , the guy felt power in his arms. bs "
If he loves the Ambrosia servers and community so much he should know the rules. Pirate has almost 200 posts on the forum and according to his profile hes 34 years old yet im the immature one.
He broke the rules, was warned and broke them again so I banned him. I stand by what I did and believe I took the correct action but possibly the wrong punishment length
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Rules are Rules, everyone must follow them, if its your friend or not.
gAnX warned you, but you still sweared.
And now you reported admin who is only doing his job. Some admins wouldnt do anything.
Pointless topic.
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Just will let gnax know that pirate is a really old dd2 player and ex admin. Also his age group is 30+...
If you wanna know why he was frustrated, now you know. Everyone does when they meet a new admin that they are not familiar with.
Regarding ban, Id rather go with a 30min to day ban on the most cases when swearing is involved. A week ban supposed to be only incase of an excessive, rapidly repeated flame, insults, so therefore I would support reduced timed ban.
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Just will let gnax know that pirate is a really old dd2 player and ex admin. Also his age group is 30+...
If you wanna know why he was frustrated, now you know. Everyone does when they meet a new admin that they are not familiar with.
Regarding ban, Id rather go with a 30min to day ban on the most cases when swearing is involved. A week ban supposed to be only incase of an excessive, rapidly repeated flame, insults, so therefore I would support reduced timed ban.
That makes it even worse. The fact he used to be an admin and yet he still thinks the rules do not apply to him. You just threw fuel on the fire. Like i said before maybe 1 week was a little to long, but the attitude did not help. Most ppl when they are warned about language actually apologize, or ask why. Then to be told its a server rule which ends the convo/matter.
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I would be inclined to unban you Pirate, if you apologized to Ganx. Rather than come to forum and call him an idiot. You are outnumbered as for the people think you are in the wrong, not the admin. So why should we unban you when you cannot admit you were in the wrong?
It's either that, or serve the time.
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Just will let gnax know that pirate is a really old dd2 player and ex admin. Also his age group is 30+...
If you wanna know why he was frustrated, now you know. Everyone does when they meet a new admin that they are not familiar with.
Regarding ban, Id rather go with a 30min to day ban on the most cases when swearing is involved. A week ban supposed to be only incase of an excessive, rapidly repeated flame, insults, so therefore I would support reduced timed ban.
Truth has been spoken , I support Pirate to be unbanned if not,his ban time to be reduced to 1-3 days no more.
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Just will let gnax know that pirate is a really old dd2 player and ex admin. Also his age group is 30+...
If you wanna know why he was frustrated, now you know. Everyone does when they meet a new admin that they are not familiar with.
Regarding ban, Id rather go with a 30min to day ban on the most cases when swearing is involved. A week ban supposed to be only incase of an excessive, rapidly repeated flame, insults, so therefore I would support reduced timed ban.
Truth has been spoken , I support Pirate to be unbanned if not,his ban time to be reduced to 1-3 days no more.
would have to agree with sami:
I would be inclined to unban you Pirate, if you apologized to Ganx. Rather than come to forum and call him an idiot. You are outnumbered as for the people think you are in the wrong, not the admin. So why should we unban you when you cannot admit you were in the wrong?
It's either that, or serve the time.
the purpose of a ban is to be a way to get you back on the good track again, just like you often hear jail managers saying their first objective is making sure that once a prisoner comes out of jail he functions like a good citizen and will no longer feel like breaking the law/rules.
admitting you made a mistake is step 1, you failed to complete that step so far which is why i wouldn't lower the ban if i was sami either.
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Just will let gnax know that pirate is a really old dd2 player and ex admin. Also his age group is 30+...
If you wanna know why he was frustrated, now you know. Everyone does when they meet a new admin that they are not familiar with.
Regarding ban, Id rather go with a 30min to day ban on the most cases when swearing is involved. A week ban supposed to be only incase of an excessive, rapidly repeated flame, insults, so therefore I would support reduced timed ban.
That makes it even worse. The fact he used to be an admin and yet he still thinks the rules do not apply to him. You just threw fuel on the fire. Like i said before maybe 1 week was a little to long, but the attitude did not help. Most ppl when they are warned about language actually apologize, or ask why. Then to be told its a server rule which ends the convo/matter.
Im talking about the length, not the ban. Dont mix pls.
There is no different bans for ex admins or whatsoever, there was a weeks ban that imho was too lengthy.. Thats all.
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This case will be dropped.
I have analyzed this case for 1 day, now if we look good ganx had a reason to ban you. You were an old admin pirate and you know how things go here, you should show example to others. It doesn't really matter if he is your friend since an admin can not know if he is really your friend, so take this as a warning. And after all you called him an idiot in forum too. So that's why we decided to keep you banned.
And ganx you also need to follow the admin policy, warn, kick, ban. Just don't ban people directly without a warning. So take this also as a warning.
Pirate temporary ban will remain for his attitude problems towards ambrosia staff.
So Case dropped.