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Information => News & Announcements => News Archive => Topic started by: Rawrplus on January 19, 2014, 06:38:27 pm
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Now here's a little thing I'd like to become a tradition. Ever-so-rarely I'd like this kind of topic to hover around our forums with your feedback and suggestions. Naturally, we in high-staff have been working our asses off on improving the Community as much as possible, but sometimes it's easy to go burn-out and overlook even the most blatant fatal flaw carelessly (slips right off your tongue, doesn't it?). And now that's the part where community support kicks in, it's not an easy task to strive to be the best around but we certainly are motivated enough and strive to be and such a thing is impossible to accomplish without feedback of others - as well have different opinions on certain policies and so on, but sometimes all you need is a definitve word from majority to change your opinion about something. Often we even came to an argument with fellow visitors who arrogantly post on our forums that we are unable to take criticism, which I somewhat understand where they are coming from, but there's a slight difference between a well-constructed criticism with worthwhile content and just stupid nitpicking.
Either way, what I've been trying to say is - Here's everyone's chance to honestly post what they think we could improve on. I'm sure there's something you can dig up or are even aware of for a long time but was just afraid to post it. Heck, I work in the staff team and can think of things where we could and should definitely work on.
So ladies and gentlemen, here it is, unpopular opinion, a secret wish, opinion on how certain things are handled or asking Rawr to stop with stupid Dark Souls references, here's your chance to post 1 and most important thing that you'd like Ambrosia to improve on. Please be brutally honest, as it's always more useful to us than just sugar-coating something you think is a total stupidity just afraid to say it. And well.. that's also sort of the reason why this topic was posted.
Before you start using your shiny whiteknight keyboard instruments, please allow me to remind you about one thing - Although we allow all sorts of criticism in this topic, harsh ones, personal ones, or even non-important details - please follow a certain pattern:
- The criticism has to be least somewhat structured and provide meaningful feedback
- Instead of only pointing out the mistake, please try to think of a way we should fix it as well
- Try to keep in lines of reality, we won't buy 58 new Battlefield 4 Servers, neither post a nude picture of Cardclasher since some pervert demanded it
Now that's out of the way, we're looking forward to your opinions and sincerely hope we will be able to work on them in the near future. Also apologies for the corny topic with lots of shitty jokes and phrases but my brain is sort of going nuts after a 3 days constant studying for an exam.
Best Regards
R+
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I will be brutally honest like always. When I will have time to sat on my laptop and a spare moment.
Glad to see this emerging :)
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Everyone should be treated equal. Just because you're admin doesn't mean you can treat everyone else like shit, same with HA, UC, etc..
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Everyone should be treated equal. Just because you're admin doesn't mean you can treat everyone else like shit, same with HA, UC, etc..
+1. I really think the same as dominic does.
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Instead of only pointing out the mistake, please try to think of a way we should fix it as well
i don't see a solution in the comments above tho
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If an Highstaff warns somone for doing something like: Insulting/Spamming/Going Off topic.
They should at least NOT do the same thing. As it's ridiculous.
Rest is fine.
Also good explained by dominic.
EDIT:
Example: "You have been warned for inuslting." --- "Saying: You're pathtic, and shut up"
What should not happen after: "The guy who warns should not: Call somone pathetic, or inulst in a diffrent way"
Where is the logic of the warn then? ;=)
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Dear Mister Samuel,
I've known you long enough to tell you STOP TROLLING ME !
Did Cersei put you up to the nude part ?
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Freedom of speech. I can't even say 'g-a-y' (gay) without being censored. Makes me thing Ambrosia is homophobic.
Also can't say ga-y but can say lesbian.
Double standards.
You might just stop censoring any words, this isn't kindergarten is it?
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I'll give you answers to all feedback tomorow :) Also will obviously welcome more feedback, so don't be shy guys. Also thanks to those who already replied, I definitely agree with certain parts, but as I said, will touch on them detailed tomorow noon'
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Problem - I'm being fed up with one specific member of high staff and his ridiculously useless and/or non related posts in threads. Why am I fed up with him and his actions is because he himself warns and punishes people for talking trash or simply spamming yet he does basically the same thing however he is a part of the staff team and the person warned is simply a member of the community.
I know there is a report section but I didn't want to make so much fuss about it however if you want to improve few things then why not mention it here :)
Solution - Have a word with the guy if he doesn't improve kick him out as it really tiring to look at the posts he makes everyday. Make sure that other lads in the team follow as I've seen others do it as well.
Thanks :)
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I'm being fed up with one specific member of high staff and his ridiculously useless and/or non related posts in threads. Why am I fed up with him and his actions is because he himself warns and punishes people for talking trash or simply spamming yet he does basically the same thing however he is a part of the staff team and the person warned is simply a member of the community.
I know there is a report section but I didn't want to make so much fuss about it however if you want to improve few things then why not mention it here :)
Solution? Have a word with the guy if he doesn't improve kick him out as it really tiring to look at the posts he makes everyday. Make sure that other lads in the team follow as I've seen others do it as well.
Thanks :)
+1
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If an Highstaff warns somone for doing something like: Insulting/Spamming/Going Off topic.
They should at least NOT do the same thing. As it's ridiculous.
Rest is fine.
Also good explained by dominic.
+1 .. i think that's not fair when anyone of hs warn a member .. then do the same thing he warned member of it .. as Dominic Said : everyone should be treated equal..
and i think there are no differences between people .. we are humans .. Really we need such a posts .
Thanks rawr for giving us a chance .. to explain our statement ..
Mesoo :)
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I'm being fed up with one specific member of high staff and his ridiculously useless and/or non related posts in threads. Why am I fed up with him and his actions is because he himself warns and punishes people for talking trash or simply spamming yet he does basically the same thing however he is a part of the staff team and the person warned is simply a member of the community.
I know there is a report section but I didn't want to make so much fuss about it however if you want to improve few things then why not mention it here :)
Solution? Have a word with the guy if he doesn't improve kick him out as it really tiring to look at the posts he makes everyday. Make sure that other lads in the team follow as I've seen others do it as well.
Thanks :)
FMs are not highstaff :)
But I understand what you mean.
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It is extremely important to create a process that provides clear analysis of a person when promoted to admin and higher ranks. When I say process, I refer to every side of the criteria required. For instance, when accepting a new admin, you should normally have a secretive position that is unknown to the public, having him monitoring the the person when treating people.
Obviously, I do know that you have some sort of a 'system' that allows you to collect those data, but I don't think its that effective. This is due to my observation of the recent/old promotions which kind of affected the 'admin service efficiency'. With that being said, those observers (if this idea goes real) need to be extremely talented and educated; they should be able to reveal the true image of a person. Although this seem to be impossible, but you might just pick the perfect person, and ofcourse, there has to be atleast 1 in every server- specialty is important.
If you wondering why would we need such a strict process, it is because of the fact that it was greatly increase the chances of having the perfect staff. Ultimately, we will see long-term effects such as the number of reports being reduced, massively and that would make Ambrosia, the perfect gaming community. However, an admin re-check process is really essential if this were to take place.
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I'm being fed up with one specific member of high staff and his ridiculously useless and/or non related posts in threads. Why am I fed up with him and his actions is because he himself warns and punishes people for talking trash or simply spamming yet he does basically the same thing however he is a part of the staff team and the person warned is simply a member of the community.
I know there is a report section but I didn't want to make so much fuss about it however if you want to improve few things then why not mention it here :)
Solution? Have a word with the guy if he doesn't improve kick him out as it really tiring to look at the posts he makes everyday. Make sure that other lads in the team follow as I've seen others do it as well.
Thanks :)
FMs are not highstaff :)
But I understand what you mean.
How do you know I'm not talking about you?
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Right, I'm not really gonna give such a radical suggestion, but reinforce or weaken some suggestions, and possibly might appear that I'm repeating the suggestions so I apologize in advance.. I hope it's not a waste of your time if you invest more time into understanding my thoughts from my 3.5 years experience.
I always have been seeing quite extraordinary behavior cycles from ambrosia members in their community timespan. I do understand that higher ranks asks for higher obligations and the unconscious consequence of bigger ego for respect and loyalty. It can be argued that it's part of their gradual adaptation under new circumstances, but it's obviously the first step into generating the possibility of the backstab effect. To Elaborate how this effect works let's go back at 2011-2012, and remind ourselves at the dark time of ambrosia when mostly every member had "dirt" on somebody else for something he did wrong. This is because of the spark which tasha and sammi created with their daily reports against players and admins. Meaning that they somehow acquired a "special voice" in ambrosia following many members to somehow represent it by using that emergency blackmail. So I would like to ask the staff in ambrosia to forbid the validity of any acoustic and optical misconduct older then 15 days.Recently I have talked with numerable highstaff about this and they seem to allow this. Recalling that in the past, when jf reported arne for some "admin abuse" ezza immediately responded with forbidding blackmail(yes keeping really old evidence to prove somebody has misbehaved was claimed terminologically "blackmail") . Sadly this forum doesn't have the archives of those "Really" important posts meaning I cannot Prove it that it really happened. It's just parts and segments of my memory. I'm sorry if the previous information is wrong or misleading, but that's how I remember it.
Ultor has a decent point about appointing psychiatrists(or people with some degree in psychology) to people who are moving higher on the rank list. I think is a great idea to see how is their development proceeding over the time and report any problems and issues to the emperors so they can prevent it in time. It should never happen that a promotion like a head admin can somehow bypass the ambrosia emperor filters and freely create misconduct and mayhem in the forum/server until is too late and spotted. And those(psychiatrists) people appointed for such a position should not in the most threatening situation reveal their true nature.
The only exception that applied for a highstaff that had the biggest freedom was arne in my eyes. He had such a trait that allowed him to be seen as a normal player and his mistakes always under the disguise of great humor. He was the mediary between any ambrosian member and the highstaff. (Something like rawrplus now). If a highstaff does not have that trait, he should not risk to freely treat lower-ranked members in what ways he like. It's a general attempt to mimic his(arne's) way of management and I have never seen somebody close to his style(not yet, for sure). There has been a lot of examples where 2 highstaffs could talk something quite unknown to the normal members and not relevant to the topic but when 2 members go offtopic, then the highstaff will certainly highlight them for moderation or warn them. As many people before said, a highstaff should be an example from his head to his feet. That's how any low-ranked members in any community can see examples and try to orientate to them thinking for their future in the community.
Thank you for reading.
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I'm being fed up with one specific member of high staff and his ridiculously useless and/or non related posts in threads. Why am I fed up with him and his actions is because he himself warns and punishes people for talking trash or simply spamming yet he does basically the same thing however he is a part of the staff team and the person warned is simply a member of the community.
I know there is a report section but I didn't want to make so much fuss about it however if you want to improve few things then why not mention it here :)
Solution? Have a word with the guy if he doesn't improve kick him out as it really tiring to look at the posts he makes everyday. Make sure that other lads in the team follow as I've seen others do it as well.
Thanks :)
FMs are not highstaff :)
But I understand what you mean.
How do you know I'm not talking about you?
lol
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I'm being fed up with one specific member of high staff and his ridiculously useless and/or non related posts in threads. Why am I fed up with him and his actions is because he himself warns and punishes people for talking trash or simply spamming yet he does basically the same thing however he is a part of the staff team and the person warned is simply a member of the community.
I know there is a report section but I didn't want to make so much fuss about it however if you want to improve few things then why not mention it here :)
Solution? Have a word with the guy if he doesn't improve kick him out as it really tiring to look at the posts he makes everyday. Make sure that other lads in the team follow as I've seen others do it as well.
Thanks :)
FMs are not highstaff :)
But I understand what you mean.
How do you know I'm not talking about you?
I keep my eyes on my posts so I'm pretty positive :)
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If you could improve 1 thing in Ambrosia what would it be?
1- i love playing little and fast maps , like aim maps, awp maps etc... fast funny and always full in some servers, generally 16 ( max) players so if Ambrosia add it, it will be a lot of fun, but it is just an opinion (dont attack me lol) :)
there is other things , ill add them later
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Everyone should be treated equal. Just because you're admin doesn't mean you can treat everyone else like shit, same with HA, UC, etc..
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Please follow this simple request:
Instead of only pointing out the mistake, please try to think of a way we should fix it as well
It's all good and well agreeing and pointing out something, but for the sake of trying, you must say how to fix that and ways to improve it.
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Everyone should be treated equal. Just because you're admin doesn't mean you can treat everyone else like shit, same with HA, UC, etc..
i agree with dominic , and how to fix it is about the members , treat all as same and respond to everyone regarding his place in ambrosia
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Okay, prepare for a long post, as being the community leader I'll be adressing all the issues myself, post my thoughts on things pointed out, as I'll be also the one adressing any changes that may occur after this topic is done. This is somewhat of a self-burden :p
Also, just because I've answered doesn't mean the topic is over. If there's something you didn't post yet but want to, I'll happily adress them in my next reply. So let's go through everything one by one.
Everyone should be treated equal. Just because you're admin doesn't mean you can treat everyone else like shit, same with HA, UC, etc..
I've seen a lot of people agreeing with this. This is a rather difficult one for two reasons. First of all, it's important to understand, that the concept of "Everyone is equal" while it may sound brilliant on paper doesn't really work all that well. Last time we saw it being run was after 2nd World War in a form of communism. While people certainly weren't equal during communism, it was the ideology behind it which allowed few people who had no business in certain positions to ruin economy and livelyhood of many countries and families inside them. Now here's what I'm trying to say, imagine a country where there would be no goverment, no president and would be ran by whoever would feel like doing it at the very moment. While everyone would enjoy equality for a brief moment, it would turn into one big chaos. There simply need to be some authorities that need to keep an eye over the place - same applies here - there needs to be some authority else this place would become a mess. We certainly try to maintain the community player friendly and not as a strict business, but there are some things which simply have to be handled the hard way. There's a reason why the certain individuals in the high-staff team are in the positions they are, instead of some random girl / guy because hey, everyone is equal. Here's what I'm trying to say, everyone should be treated equally no matter what's their position / colour / gender / age but there also has to be some order, that's also what separates Ambrosia from low-quality communities which are run by people who barely can even speak English and their staff team consist out of bunch of 12 year olds. Now, don't get me wrong, there are some bright exception despite their young age, but most of time many of them are immature and make the community a giant joke. See, there's this equality, it's a very vague term. Even in real world we want to keep equality in human rights, where everybody has free choice of religion, sexuality and so on, but there are some authorities that need to keep order in our world else we'd become just a bunch of uncivilized rogues fighting over territories and power and that's exactly what would happen here if everybody would be treated equal. It's one of those things, that sounds good on a paper, but if you think about it longer, it's not all that great of an idea.
I do understand though, it was not meant so literally and you were rather asking for a more friendly environment, rather than actual equality. First things first, it's important to understand that it's impossible to babysit each and every individual in this community to ensure everyone is treated equally in a community of this magnitude. I'm trying to watch over our staff members and make them represent us with pride and in a good light, but as I said, it's not entirely possible. I just honestly feel like, that this is one of things that we all as human beings have to work towards and not just a team of staffs from Ambrosia trying to create an illusion of everyone is treated equallly - because that's not how things work. I think it all comes down to the relationships between individuals, which reminds me of a lot of members think of highstaff as some shady guys running the business from behind the scenes. With all honesty, we're all friendly gamers after all, we just don't have too many chances to show it since we have to keep some order in the place. I feel like we as staff team should try to socialize a bit more with our members, because atmosphere between staff members is certainly good, it's just I don't feel like the atmosphere between HS and your typical everyday visitor of the community is all that ideal and that would certainly help us achieve the feeling of equality - or what I feel like is better formulated - a lot friendlier atmosphere. I think there's a room for improvement in this matter and I'll talk with my colleagues to see what we can do. On second thought, I' also have an idea how to get the best results out of this topic, stay in touch @ forums guys coz I'll post a new Announcement soon (probably today or tomorow)
[Also you may find more about this matter in my reply to *PL* in this same topic]
an Highstaff warns somone for doing something like: Insulting/Spamming/Going Off topic.
They should at least NOT do the same thing. As it's ridiculous.
Rest is fine. "
I feel like that's just error of ways of certain members rather than something we all could improve on. I certainly agree and sincerely try to achieve a fair process for every case, but sometimes it's impossible. I'd personally recommend, if you feel like a decision was taken unfairly, just send us a message over Helpdesk or PM any of the Community Leader(s) or Emperors and they will assign this miss-treatment appropriately. More onto this issue can also be found at my reply to fragment.
Freedom of speech. I can't even say 'g-a-y' (***) without being censored. Makes me thing Ambrosia is homophobic.
Also can't say ga-y but can say lesbian.
Double standards.
You might just stop censoring any words, this isn't kindergarten is it?
Uhhh, yeah this one cracks me up a little, as this wasn't even intentional. This actually originates from a censorship plugin we are using on the forums. I remember that a every single word used to be simply cesonored, such silly ones as queer or stupid. Those certainly are not swearwords, recently I've even taken away censorships from words that are generally considered lighter swearwords: eg. "Shit" "Bullshit" or even "bitching" because I feel like as long as they are used in a friendly way they are just a part of the conversation. The reason behind censorship of 'heavy' swearwords such as f*ck et cetera is to keep the discussion civlized and not turn this board into smaller 4chan. The reason why gay was censored is because, quite frankly, I simply overlooked it when loosening up the unnecessary censorship few months back. Now that I think about it's actually sort of offensive towards gays as gay is not even a swearword but a lifestyle - sexuality. I'll definitely take a better look at the swear words filter and will make sure not to overlook any unnecessary swearwords like last time around. Censorship of this word was not even intentional rather than just overlooking it by accident. We're not stuck in 1700s where everything but 100% conservative was considered a sin and deserving death.
Problem I'm being fed up with one specific member of high staff and his ridiculously useless and/or non related posts in threads. Why am I fed up with him and his actions is because he himself warns and punishes people for talking trash or simply spamming yet he does basically the same thing however he is a part of the staff team and the person warned is simply a member of the community.
I know there is a report section but I didn't want to make so much fuss about it however if you want to improve few things then why not mention it here :)
Solution - Have a word with the guy if he doesn't improve kick him out as it really tiring to look at the posts he makes everyday. Make sure that other lads in the team follow as I've seen others do it as well.
Thanks :)
Uhm I sort of adressed this in my reply to Fisu but I understand what you're trying to say. I'll have a word with the one guy to actually change his ways as I've seen a lot of negative feedback in the recent days - not only in this topic. About others, I feel like they're doing a fine job keeping a healthy discussion. I' personally am find with offtopic as long as it's somewhat related to the topic (Blimey! What a terribly formulated sentence - offtopic related to topic...) but I hope you get what I'm trying to say. It indeed is stupid to be punishing others and then you do the same 'sin'. There's one old saying in my language that I wish existed in English because it perfectly goes with the problem (or maybe it exists and I just haven't heard of it yet). Basically it is - "Vodu káže, víno pije" which would be translated into - A guy orders everyone to drink water, while he drinks wine. I'm not sure if that makes any sense to you, but basically, you should not order someone to do something, while you have the benefit and have more but frankly just don't realise it.
(Sigh.. what a terrible translation and explanation, I'd be surprised if least one guy got the meaning of it, well.. I hope so because it actually applies to this situation very well, it's just my brain feels dead after all the constant studies and I couldn't come up with a better explanation).
It is extremely important to create a process that provides clear analysis of a person when promoted to admin and higher ranks. When I say process, I refer to every side of the criteria required. For instance, when accepting a new admin, you should normally have a secretive position that is unknown to the public, having him monitoring the the person when treating people.
Obviously, I do know that you have some sort of a 'system' that allows you to collect those data, but I don't think its that effective. This is due to my observation of the recent/old promotions which kind of affected the 'admin service efficiency'. With that being said, those observers (if this idea goes real) need to be extremely talented and educated; they should be able to reveal the true image of a person. Although this seem to be impossible, but you might just pick the perfect person, and ofcourse, there has to be atleast 1 in every server- specialty is important.
If you wondering why would we need such a strict process, it is because of the fact that it was greatly increase the chances of having the perfect staff. Ultimately, we will see long-term effects such as the number of reports being reduced, massively and that would make Ambrosia, the perfect gaming community. However, an admin re-check process is really essential if this were to take place.
It certainly isn't a bad thing and in a perfect world we'd be running on this system, but this isn't the perfect world. We have to stay realistic and while keeping realistic, we not only have to state - that in reality Card is tremendously ugly :D, but also the fact that such thing would be impossible to pull off.
Like, the suggestion would be working perfectly - but who would feel like spying on every applicant. Not only it would discomfort players to be spyed on, but differences in time zones preferences in server and availbity of this spyes would make such a process impossible to put to realisation. We'd want to run this, trust me we really do, but I don't feel like it's possible, certainly not in this World and Dimension.
And after all, I still feel like our staff team still contains out of many high quality admins who are one of the best and well-organized admin teams you can find in any gaming commnity to this date. There surely is always room in improvement, but hey, if the the everybody in the world woud be flawless with everything they'd want, then the life would be shallow and we'd become hollow (heh.. another Dark Souls reference slipped in), we'd have simply nothing more left to live for and that life would be a endless boredom - just like watching Golf (10/10 joke)
Right, I'm not really gonna give such a radical suggestion, but reinforce or weaken some suggestions, and possibly might appear that I'm repeating the suggestions so I apologize in advance.. I hope it's not a waste of your time if you invest more time into understanding my thoughts from my 3.5 years experience.
I always have been seeing quite extraordinary behavior cycles from ambrosia members in their community timespan. I do understand that higher ranks asks for higher obligations and the unconscious consequence of bigger ego for respect and loyalty. It can be argued that it's part of their gradual adaptation under new circumstances, but it's obviously the first step into generating the possibility of the backstab effect. To Elaborate how this effect works let's go back at 2011-2012, and remind ourselves at the dark time of ambrosia when mostly every member had "dirt" on somebody else for something he did wrong. This is because of the spark which tasha and sammi created with their daily reports against players and admins. Meaning that they somehow acquired a "special voice" in ambrosia following many members to somehow represent it by using that emergency blackmail. So I would like to ask the staff in ambrosia to forbid the validity of any acoustic and optical misconduct older then 15 days.Recently I have talked with numerable highstaff about this and they seem to allow this. Recalling that in the past, when jf reported arne for some "admin abuse" ezza immediately responded with forbidding blackmail(yes keeping really old evidence to prove somebody has misbehaved was claimed terminologically "blackmail") . Sadly this forum doesn't have the archives of those "Really" important posts meaning I cannot Prove it that it really happened. It's just parts and segments of my memory. I'm sorry if the previous information is wrong or misleading, but that's how I remember it.
Ultor has a decent point about appointing psychiatrists(or people with some degree in psychology) to people who are moving higher on the rank list. I think is a great idea to see how is their development proceeding over the time and report any problems and issues to the emperors so they can prevent it in time. It should never happen that a promotion like a head admin can somehow bypass the ambrosia emperor filters and freely create misconduct and mayhem in the forum/server until is too late and spotted. And those(psychiatrists) people appointed for such a position should not in the most threatening situation reveal their true nature.
The only exception that applied for a highstaff that had the biggest freedom was arne in my eyes. He had such a trait that allowed him to be seen as a normal player and his mistakes always under the disguise of great humor. He was the mediary between any ambrosian member and the highstaff. (Something like rawrplus now). If a highstaff does not have that trait, he should not risk to freely treat lower-ranked members in what ways he like. It's a general attempt to mimic his(arne's) way of management and I have never seen somebody close to his style(not yet, for sure). There has been a lot of examples where 2 highstaffs could talk something quite unknown to the normal members and not relevant to the topic but when 2 members go offtopic, then the highstaff will certainly highlight them for moderation or warn them. As many people before said, a highstaff should be an example from his head to his feet. That's how any low-ranked members in any community can see examples and try to orientate to them thinking for their future in the community.
Thank you for reading.
First of all, I'm delighted that you see me as some sort of connection between highstaff team and the "casual" members. But there are some things I have to disagree with. First of all, I'm not like Arne and more importantly never wanted to be one. Not to be mistaken, I'm not trashtalking Arne, he's actually one of my very close friends and to this day I'm in touch with him, but I feel like at those days the community was a lot worse and everything that went went. I feel like at that age, community was a lot smaller and that's the reason he could get away with doing stupid shit and being irrational a lot easier and while so called "Arne's Management" may seem like a nice laid-back style of running a community, it backfired horribly at one time. The rules at that time weres non-existent, not many people have taken the community seriously, it was an unprofessional mess and most importantly, since it was so disorganized we paid the price with numerous drama moments in arguments between highstaffs, all sorts of issues public didn't even know about, lacking any sort of ddos protection and so on. I'd like to think of that age as the period of Ambrosia being in it's teenage years. Young, innocent, not caring about image and ran with no caring what-so-ever. Yes, it may be fun and you may grin when you think about the 'ol' good times' but you know you've grown to the better. It's just you've matured up, so did me and so did Arne and we both prefer the things are now rather than the past. Without changing we'd never make it as far as we did today, because the way things were run really backfired us more than you'd realise. It's like doing your finals for 4 (D grades), sure enough the 4 years spent partying were a lot of fun, but maybe just maybe your future would be better if you took things the mature way and did them properly.
You still can have fun a an adult, but a lot more adequatly and understand the difference when you can be laidback and when situation calls for you to act accordingly to situation and help out in rough times. I think that's one of main differences between me and Arne. People know I'm a type of guy who likes to have fun and can be the biggest troll ever, but I understand (least I like to think I do) the importance of proper reaction to what you're facing. While it may be fun to take everything laidback, it is certainly not the smartest thing to do and I feel like I have the ability to understand this, which is very important.
On the other note, I perfectly understand what you're trying to say. I wouldn't say that just because now that not only me, but many members of the staff team understand the importance of social / gaming etiquette - we can't have fun. We are just serious when situation calls for it and the problem is, we never really show our fun face in public. Allow me to set example, Raven is a brilliant friendly chap who I have spent numerous hours talking about non-gaming related stuff, but you what your average joe sees, is the serious face of Raven when deciding upon unban request. Heck, Eric (Ezza) is one of the funniest lads I know but 90% of the community didn't have the chance to find out. I am happy that the community changed for the better and is now a lot more professional (and enjoyable to be in). Funnily enough, me and other mates from staff team actually had a little meeting some months back and one of the hot topics were socializing more with members. I feel like that's one thing we could certainly work on and it would really create a lot more gaming-friendly atmosphere. I almost feel like, some members are afraid of us which is a shame, because we're just gamers after all - just like them.
[You can find more about this matter in my reply to almighty Dominic (if you haven't read it already)]
Regarding other things mentioned in your reply, I feel like I sort of gave all the necessary you need to know in my reply to Ultor
About the validity of proof of 15 days - I just feel like there's no reason to overcomplicate the system and I'm sorry for using a somewhat offensive real life parallel, but you also don't forgive somebody for bombing a metro and play it cool just because a certain period of time has passed.
If you could improve 1 thing in Ambrosia what would it be?
1- i love playing little and fast maps , like aim maps, awp maps etc... fast funny and always full in some servers, generally 16 ( max) players so if Ambrosia add it, it will be a lot of fun, but it is just an opinion (dont attack me lol) :)
there is other things , ill add them later
We will be expending our server list (we already are), but with all honesty, we don't feel like expanding our CS 1.6 server list at the very moment is the best possibility. I'd say that moving into other games like CS:GO, DayZ etc is a much better and attractive choice as financially so happiness wise.
Well that's probably it. I hope I gave you a pleasing answer to all of you. If you have any other questions or even things you disagree with, feel free to ask. I also apologise for any gramatical / spelling errors beforehand, but it's not all that easy to write such a gigantic wall of text without one (for a non-native English speaker especially) and I've also been exhausted with studies lately.
If you have any other questions, feel free to post them, I'll adress them later. Thanks everybody for your input, highly appreciated and I also hope that the insight into mine (and in many cases my staff team partner's) mindset gave you a better understanding of how much we love this place and what we think about certain issues. I really enjoyed this topic, because some of you have brought up very good suggestions and it's always good ground to build upon, so yeah, thanks for your time everybody who posted here :-)
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Ehhh, tell Roni to stop changing his nick in JB since I believe he's the one who's causing some fights and other people raging at him, and they are the only ban victims ::)
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Good explanation rawr, i will read it fully and closely tonight
and card he didnt mean me... I haven't warned anyone for going offtopic lately.
And i spoke to him ... He didnt say it's me.
So please card don't point fingers and thanks
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If only some of the members here read our group chats :D
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Okay, prepare for a long post, as being the community leader I'll be adressing all the issues myself, post my thoughts on things pointed out, as I'll be also the one adressing any changes that may occur after this topic is done. This is somewhat of a self-burden :p
Also, just because I've answered doesn't mean the topic is over. If there's something you didn't post yet but want to, I'll happily adress them in my next reply. So let's go through everything one by one.
Everyone should be treated equal. Just because you're admin doesn't mean you can treat everyone else like shit, same with HA, UC, etc..
I've seen a lot of people agreeing with this. This is a rather difficult one for two reasons. First of all, it's important to understand, that the concept of "Everyone is equal" while it may sound brilliant on paper doesn't really work all that well. Last time we saw it being run was after 2nd World War in a form of communism. While people certainly weren't equal during communism, it was the ideology behind it which allowed few people who had no business in certain positions to ruin economy and livelyhood of many countries and families inside them. Now here's what I'm trying to say, imagine a country where there would be no goverment, no president and would be ran by whoever would feel like doing it at the very moment. While everyone would enjoy equality for a brief moment, it would turn into one big chaos. There simply need to be some authorities that need to keep an eye over the place - same applies here - there needs to be some authority else this place would become a mess. We certainly try to maintain the community player friendly and not as a strict business, but there are some things which simply have to be handled the hard way. There's a reason why the certain individuals in the high-staff team are in the positions they are, instead of some random girl / guy because hey, everyone is equal. Here's what I'm trying to say, everyone should be treated equally no matter what's their position / colour / gender / age but there also has to be some order, that's also what separates Ambrosia from low-quality communities which are run by people who barely can even speak English and their staff team consist out of bunch of 12 year olds. Now, don't get me wrong, there are some bright exception despite their young age, but most of time many of them are immature and make the community a giant joke. See, there's this equality, it's a very vague term. Even in real world we want to keep equality in human rights, where everybody has free choice of religion, sexuality and so on, but there are some authorities that need to keep order in our world else we'd become just a bunch of uncivilized rogues fighting over territories and power and that's exactly what would happen here if everybody would be treated equal. It's one of those things, that sounds good on a paper, but if you think about it longer, it's not all that great of an idea.
I do understand though, it was not meant so literally and you were rather asking for a more friendly environment, rather than actual equality. First things first, it's important to understand that it's impossible to babysit each and every individual in this community to ensure everyone is treated equally in a community of this magnitude. I'm trying to watch over our staff members and make them represent us with pride and in a good light, but as I said, it's not entirely possible. I just honestly feel like, that this is one of things that we all as human beings have to work towards and not just a team of staffs from Ambrosia trying to create an illusion of everyone is treated equallly - because that's not how things work. I think it all comes down to the relationships between individuals, which reminds me of a lot of members think of highstaff as some shady guys running the business from behind the scenes. With all honesty, we're all friendly gamers after all, we just don't have too many chances to show it since we have to keep some order in the place. I feel like we as staff team should try to socialize a bit more with our members, because atmosphere between staff members is certainly good, it's just I don't feel like the atmosphere between HS and your typical everyday visitor of the community is all that ideal and that would certainly help us achieve the feeling of equality - or what I feel like is better formulated - a lot friendlier atmosphere. I think there's a room for improvement in this matter and I'll talk with my colleagues to see what we can do. On second thought, I' also have an idea how to get the best results out of this topic, stay in touch @ forums guys coz I'll post a new Announcement soon (probably today or tomorow)
[Also you may find more about this matter in my reply to *PL* in this same topic]
I get where you are coming from, but this is the 21st century we are a lot more intelligent than back then, we don't have to share anything we just need to be nice to each other and respect no matter what rank. There is one in particular that thinks he is the best because of his rank, if you really want to know chat on steam or PM, that really pisses me off but obviously have no balls to say it here because of his rank. So yeah basically what you've said, a more "friendly environment". Anyway thanks for replying.
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Cancer....... ::)
128 tickrate CS:GO Aim Server 10-12 slots..
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Jailbreak admins (not all of them) should have a limit of abusing and insulting, guys dont think i hate u but when u do that then the server will be ruined and the other members will grow same as you
Thank you for reading.
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Much more servers
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A gungame server.
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I would re-open gungame server. :)
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I would open either GG or ZM again.
Zm is possible to fill up and create an enjoyable experience.
GG is just a really relaxing and fun mode to play with your mates.
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Cancer....... ::)
128 tickrate CS:GO Aim Server 10-12 slots..
+1
But 128tick is way more expensive then 64tick... I don't think they will add a cs go 128tick server.
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A gungame server.
+1 nip HA
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I would open either GG or ZM again.
Zm is possible to fill up and create an enjoyable experience.
GG is just a really relaxing and fun mode to play with your mates.
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I would open either GG or ZM again.
Zm is possible to fill up and create an enjoyable experience.
GG is just a really relaxing and fun mode to play with your mates.
GG was the best with the knife only challenge all day I really want it back ..
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Disable nickname changes for Ambrosia staff, especially for high staff. High staff's nicknames must stay static.
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Consistency in banning process + change/increase in timed bans - e.g swearing = 1 day ban, racism = 1 week ban etc.
With a thread showing how long a ban for each offence and point out that no chance for unban before time is up if guilty.
This would remove some pointless unban threads being made, also clearing up time for more important things.
Would also make players think twice before committing an offence with higher ban times with no chance of unban.
edit - most importantly - permanent = permanent!
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Consistency in banning process + change/increase in timed bans - e.g swearing = 1 day ban, racism = 1 week ban etc.
With a thread showing how long a ban for each offence and point out that no chance for unban before time is up if guilty.
This would remove some pointless unban threads being made, also clearing up time for more important things.
Would also make players think twice before committing an offence with higher ban times with no chance of unban.
edit - most importantly - permanent = permanent!
I remember that I did suggest something along those lines
click here (http://www.ambrosia-servers.eu/community/index.php?topic=17387.0)
Of course the punishment must/can be adjusted :)
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Consistency in banning process + change/increase in timed bans - e.g swearing = 1 day ban, racism = 1 week ban etc.
With a thread showing how long a ban for each offence and point out that no chance for unban before time is up if guilty.
This would remove some pointless unban threads being made, also clearing up time for more important things.
Would also make players think twice before committing an offence with higher ban times with no chance of unban.
edit - most importantly - permanent = permanent!
A very good suggestion sMit. We have already enforced this method as of recently due to the pointless unban requests. More and more people will have no chances of having another unban appeals if we revoke the rights for any future appeals permanently. Same as if we deny someone who still got rights for unban appeal, they would be provided with a date when they can make another appeal for consideration.
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Demote/Perm Ban card clasher for being arrogant + rude and bad manners with people. ill be warned for my opinion for sure haha
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Demote/Perm Ban card clasher for being arrogant + rude and bad manners with people. ill be warned for my opinion for sure haha
Good guesser.
Nonetheless, Its one by one. You just might be next ;)
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Would like to share mine opinions too. But it's not going to be only 1.
To begin with, agree with people talking about treating everybody equally, but also agree with Raw's reply. That depends on characteristics, you can't change people or they actions.
1. Admin applications and ranks. I don't know how applications are reviewed, but I think it depends on their activity in-game and the amount of supports/no supports. Many times, I've witnessed wrong people becoming an admin. People who swear, insult, look down at others, disrespectful and start all acting bossy when they become an admin. In addition, does the server always needs admins? Not really. So how about locking or disabling the option for admin applications, rather than having 10 people applying everyday?
Privacy in high rank choices would be useful. When made public, the people who care about ranks and aiming to get power, leads to conflicts between people and triggers hatred. Yes soon or later people will realise promotions have been made but reaction won't be as effective.
Finally, suggestions of admins and getting out-powered by rankers. When an admin makes a suggestion either in public or privately, HA should consider. I don't see much of a teamwork going on. I only remember getting along very well with Redshift in Gun Game server where he would ask every admin "How can we improve?, What should we do? What should we add? What should we remove?" Etc...
2. Forum design. I've said this many times before. Both the forum and the ban list, has poor readability, not responsive and old. My suggestion would be to the change the layout and design completely. Ambrosia is growing and stepping into different game platforms too so I think my suggestion would perfectly fit in. Instead of installing SMF on public directory, install it in a directory: forum. So the domain of the forum would be: ambrosia-servers.com/forum . Install WordPress or similar basic blog script on homepage. Instead of announcing the news at this board, News and Announcements (http://www.ambrosia-servers.eu/community/index.php?board=13.0) all the news, information and announcements can be made and display on the homepage. Better SEO, more efficient, more traffic.
3. Server choices. Headshot and Gun Game servers were simply the best we had. I'm putting DD2 aside. I had never seen Gun Game empty even at mad times. Until server was lagging the hell out of everybody and although I wrote to all HS about it no body replied, eventually server shut. Headshot server was my favorite. I got happy when a UC asked my opinion about a new server. Not going to name him but he asked me about Headshot or Multimod servers and what would be better. For the first time I actually thought somebody cares about what people/ambrosians think and want. But I guess got out-powered by others. And it was Multimod server:
It's a good server, although Headshot server would of been a more wise decision.
So what happened to Multimod? ... The amount of suggestions people made for Headshot server.
4. Bans. Agree with sMiTs suggestions. We should have a fixed duration for certain bans. Number of times I see people getting banned for swearing, some for few hours, some for few days, I personally banned someone permanently. Each violation should have a certain fixed duration. Example (Just an example, durations could vary after discussions); insults: 1 day, swearing: 3 days, swearing heavily: Permanent/1 week, racism: Permanent/3 months and so on...
5. Nicks. Just like headers post, people shouldn't be allowed to change nicks like pants or socks.
This is it for now, will write more when I remember and if I need to. Thanks.
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good point deverim, as i said those little fast map as gungame was always full ,sad they were closed :( , if there is a financial issue mix it with DM (just suggestion) :)
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I had never seen Gun Game empty even at mad times.
Exactly.
It was fun to play and it was at least half full all the time. The only prob it had was having few admins (6-8 admins if I'm not mistaken). I also recall the server's head admin - Redshift - being removed (and his server shutdown) despite his great job in what was, in my eyes, the worse decision ever taken since I've been here. To be honest I never understood why gungame was removed in the first place (same goes for zombie server), since it was clearly popular, even when compared with the other servers you had at the time.
Well, this is my opinion.
Regards
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Would like to share mine opinions too. But it's not going to be only 1.
To begin with, agree with people talking about treating everybody equally, but also agree with Raw's reply. That depends on characteristics, you can't change people or they actions.
1. Admin applications and ranks. I don't know how applications are reviewed, but I think it depends on their activity in-game and the amount of supports/no supports. Many times, I've witnessed wrong people becoming an admin. People who swear, insult, look down at others, disrespectful and start all acting bossy when they become an admin. In addition, does the server always needs admins? Not really. So how about locking or disabling the option for admin applications, rather than having 10 people applying everyday?
Privacy in high rank choices would be useful. When made public, the people who care about ranks and aiming to get power, leads to conflicts between people and triggers hatred. Yes soon or later people will realise promotions have been made but reaction won't be as effective.
Finally, suggestions of admins and getting out-powered by rankers. When an admin makes a suggestion either in public or privately, HA should consider. I don't see much of a teamwork going on. I only remember getting along very well with Redshift in Gun Game server where he would ask every admin "How can we improve?, What should we do? What should we add? What should we remove?" Etc...
2. Forum design. I've said this many times before. Both the forum and the ban list, has poor readability, not responsive and old. My suggestion would be to the change the layout and design completely. Ambrosia is growing and stepping into different game platforms too so I think my suggestion would perfectly fit in. Instead of installing SMF on public directory, install it in a directory: forum. So the domain of the forum would be: ambrosia-servers.com/forum . Install WordPress or similar basic blog script on homepage. Instead of announcing the news at this board, News and Announcements (http://www.ambrosia-servers.eu/community/index.php?board=13.0) all the news, information and announcements can be made and display on the homepage. Better SEO, more efficient, more traffic.
3. Server choices. Headshot and Gun Game servers were simply the best we had. I'm putting DD2 aside. I had never seen Gun Game empty even at mad times. Until server was lagging the hell out of everybody and although I wrote to all HS about it no body replied, eventually server shut. Headshot server was my favorite. I got happy when a UC asked my opinion about a new server. Not going to name him but he asked me about Headshot or Multimod servers and what would be better. For the first time I actually thought somebody cares about what people/ambrosians think and want. But I guess got out-powered by others. And it was Multimod server:
It's a good server, although Headshot server would of been a more wise decision.
So what happened to Multimod? ... The amount of suggestions people made for Headshot server.
4. Bans. Agree with sMiTs suggestions. We should have a fixed duration for certain bans. Number of times I see people getting banned for swearing, some for few hours, some for few days, I personally banned someone permanently. Each violation should have a certain fixed duration. Example (Just an example, durations could vary after discussions); insults: 1 day, swearing: 3 days, swearing heavily: Permanent/1 week, racism: Permanent/3 months and so on...
5. Nicks. Just like headers post, people shouldn't be allowed to change nicks like pants or socks.
This is it for now, will write more when I remember and if I need to. Thanks.
Gungame server was actually one of those that was least active, including aim/hs. Peak periods would only last around 45 minutes and would drizzle at maybe 3-4 players average every hour
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stop long quote's if you are going to type one sentence, this was aimed @Header.
im more of a reader.. at the moment anyway :)
/follow topic
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Well you asked for my honest oppinion, so here you go.
Communication, regarding the latest big DDOS case, Liam.
He seems like a nice guy, yes he might sure have done something bad but the community can't see that if you, Shark, do not give them an explanation. Yes you are indeed the owner like i said in his unban request, but without giving the community a constructive response regarding why hes denied. Then you'll not be liked by quite a few of us, or at least not by me. I also think that if Ambrosia does indeed fall, this would be a major reason why which is why you should avoid it. You should be connected with the community and kindly explain what and why, yet i do not see this being done here.
Please just take this in consideration next time, it was rather dissappointing seing this being handled like it was.
Sincerely,
Pim
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1. Well i can say that treating people the same way is imposible. I have tryed it and i have nearly done it but there are always some differences between them but i think there should be and it isnt a problem. Some people are just for example more arrogant or normaly abuse more then others so when they do something bad they should get a bigger punishment because it isnt fair for the others which have always been like angels. So everyone should be treated nearly equal because as i said they are all different people and do different things. But some people really cross all the lines of the words "nearly equal".
2. Also i agree that when the staff is warning someone for something he shouldn't do it as well because as someone said it really gets ridiculous.
3. Little more communication between the high staff and the normal players even admins. Because the high staff dont really respond to them enough in my eyes. And no one should be ignored.
4. Someone said that admins are abusing at JB well that is normal :D. And i think that this people should get punished because as i said many times before there must be a great discipline in the server if you want to bring it to the top. We can see that this is working in real life, in countrys like Germany and England for example. This are countrys which have laws which are strictly followed and everything is runing like it should run that is why then are on the top. And for this to happen the Hight staff of the server should follow the rules on 100% and never abuse so they can give an example to the others. ;)
That is my opinion. And i cant suggest a way this could be dont. I just want everyone to read this and understand it because for me this is the way everything should run.
I came to visit the forum as i miss ambrosia a lot and found this topic so i liked it, read it all and decided to post as well.
Love you guys!
As always:
Regards,
Monster :D
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4. Someone said that admins are abusing at JB well that is normal :D. And i think that this people should get punished because as i said many times before there must be a great discipline in the server if you want to bring it to the top. We can see that this is working in real life, in countrys like Germany and England for example. This are countrys which have laws which are strictly followed and everything is runing like it should run that is why then are on the top. And for this to happen the Hight staff of the server should follow the rules on 100% and never abuse so they can give an example to the others. ;)
And that's why the JB server began to lose players at your prime. It lack the most important bit which is of course fun and the enjoyment of the server. You made it so strict that everyone was basically reporting each other and nowdays, well, I've hardly seen any reports coming from admins or players. Anyway, you did well responding to those reports and looking after the server.
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4. Someone said that admins are abusing at JB well that is normal :D. And i think that this people should get punished because as i said many times before there must be a great discipline in the server if you want to bring it to the top. We can see that this is working in real life, in countrys like Germany and England for example. This are countrys which have laws which are strictly followed and everything is runing like it should run that is why then are on the top. And for this to happen the Hight staff of the server should follow the rules on 100% and never abuse so they can give an example to the others. ;)
People should not be punished since i have a diffrent way doing things. I don't really see where is the abuse because i dont see any reports about my admins at least till now. I always look at the fact's i don't listen what people say. And other then that jailbreak server is a fun server so "EVERYONE" should have fun not only members admins should have also a bit fun too no? They are also humans and they can make mistakes. I dont spy my admins by checking logs and see what they did and what they do. if there is a report then ofc i will look up to it if an admin needs to be suspended/demoted i will do that. Things changed in jailbreak swearing is allowed now but if you offend any one they will be banned swearing words like "S H I T" "f u c k"etc.... I think that every body use this words at least 1 time a day. Now don't get me wrong i am not saying that your way was bad it was just strict to much and admins couldn't have fun only members. Now every one has a diffrent way of working and doing things.
Cheers
RoNi
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Well you asked for my honest oppinion, so here you go.
Communication, regarding the latest big DDOS case, Liam.
He seems like a nice guy, yes he might sure have done something bad but the community can't see that if you, Shark, do not give them an explanation. Yes you are indeed the owner like i said in his unban request, but without giving the community a constructive response regarding why hes denied. Then you'll not be liked by quite a few of us, or at least not by me. I also think that if Ambrosia does indeed fall, this would be a major reason why which is why you should avoid it. You should be connected with the community and kindly explain what and why, yet i do not see this being done here.
Please just take this in consideration next time, it was rather dissappointing seing this being handled like it was.
Sincerely,
Pim
if u have a smooch around, ull find the explanation.
4. Someone said that admins are abusing at JB well that is normal :D. And i think that this people should get punished because as i said many times before there must be a great discipline in the server if you want to bring it to the top. We can see that this is working in real life, in countrys like Germany and England for example. This are countrys which have laws which are strictly followed and everything is runing like it should run that is why then are on the top. And for this to happen the Hight staff of the server should follow the rules on 100% and never abuse so they can give an example to the others. ;)
People should not be punished since i have a diffrent way doing things. I don't really see where is the abuse because i dont see any reports about my admins at least till now. I always look at the fact's i don't listen what people say. And other then that jailbreak server is a fun server so "EVERYONE" should have fun not only members admins should have also a bit fun too no? They are also humans and they can make mistakes. I dont spy my admins by checking logs and see what they did and what they do. if there is a report then ofc i will look up to it if an admin needs to be suspended/demoted i will do that. Things changed in jailbreak swearing is allowed now but if you offend any one they will be banned swearing words like "S H I T" "f u c k"etc.... I think that every body use this words at least 1 time a day. Now don't get me wrong i am not saying that your way was bad it was just strict to much and admins couldn't have fun only members. Now every one has a diffrent way of working and doing things.
Cheers
RoNi
Abusing is fun :D
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Demote/Perm Ban card clasher for being arrogant + rude and bad manners with people. ill be warned for my opinion for sure haha
He have a good point :-\
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Demote/Perm Ban card clasher for being arrogant + rude and bad manners with people. ill be warned for my opinion for sure haha
He have a good point :-\
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It is hard for people to see the difference between fun-following the rules-no abusing. And i will never be able to explain this because i have tryed it enough times and no one understood it. Just fun can be made with no abusing but nor everyone can do it. Most of the people think that when there is no abusing there is no fun. And when an admin comes and fires all he said it was fun. Well for me this cant be fun or this fun is just for 1 moment and it ends. The fun that is needed is something on a much higher level. Like admins making jokes, CTs making jokes, making fun games and stuff like that. Games with gravity or something like that doesnt mean abuse for me. Just the admins didnt get me when i said no abusing and didnt do such stuff. But i dont find this as abusing if you put gravity for a game. But they were too afraid to do this. The point is that they just couldnt get the difference between abusing and using amx for fun. Because it is much different if you rocket all for fun or if you give gravity for all for fun.
Anyways it doesnt matter anymore. I hope the server is getting better now. And i really want it to be on the top as this is the best server i have ever played in and i really like it so i would never wish anything bad for it.
I hope my old m8s roni and sami will do this. Good luck <3
Regards,
Monster
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Disable nickname changes for Ambrosia staff, especially for high staff. High staff's nicknames must stay static.
Hallelujah my brother.
I'm gonna give that guy a kiss :-*.
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I don't see people should stick with their nicknames for life, especially as there is a thread where Admins can post their old and new names. You can even remove a tatoo in life so what is a issue with nicknames as long as everyone is informed
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I don't see people should stick with their nicknames for life, especially as there is a thread where Admins can post their old and new names. You can even remove a tatoo in life so what is a issue with nicknames as long as everyone is informed
because we aren't informed :)
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Then it should have been put in that way: NO changing nicknames without informing general audience
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Then it should have been put in that way: NO changing nicknames without informing general audience
I dont see the problem but ok :P Im playing with the same nickname for 12 years already.
@Fisu i removed your post. First of all. Its a ADMIN HQ topic. Not for the public.
2nd of all. U have no clue where the hell u are talking about so be quiet if u dont have intel.
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Then it should have been put in that way: NO changing nicknames without informing general audience
I dont see the problem but ok :P Im playing with the same nickname for 12 years already.
@Fisu i removed your post. First of all. Its a ADMIN HQ topic. Not for the public.
2nd of all. U have no clue where the hell u are talking about so be quiet if u dont have intel.
SDisable nickname changes for Ambrosia staff, especially for high staff. High staff's nicknames must stay static.
Hallelujah my brother.
I'm gonna give that guy a kiss :-*.
I don't see a reason of doing that. Players/Staff should be able to change name whenever they want.
@ Todo learn to calmdown.
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Then it should have been put in that way: NO changing nicknames without informing general audience
http://bans.ambrosia-servers.eu/ban_list.php?bid=208033 (http://bans.ambrosia-servers.eu/ban_list.php?bid=208033)
for example :) that ban, who is that admin :P?
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Then it should have been put in that way: NO changing nicknames without informing general audience
http://bans.ambrosia-servers.eu/ban_list.php?bid=208033 (http://bans.ambrosia-servers.eu/ban_list.php?bid=208033)
for example :) that ban, who is that admin :P?
Easy ... Dota player .. Means either me or card clasher.
Not me ... >>>> Card clasher
Solved? xD
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Then it should have been put in that way: NO changing nicknames without informing general audience
http://bans.ambrosia-servers.eu/ban_list.php?bid=208033 (http://bans.ambrosia-servers.eu/ban_list.php?bid=208033)
for example :) that ban, who is that admin :P?
Easy ... Dota player .. Means either me or card clasher.
Not me ... >>>> Card clasher
Solved? xD
wouldnt you have to be a dota player to understand that?
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Then it should have been put in that way: NO changing nicknames without informing general audience
http://bans.ambrosia-servers.eu/ban_list.php?bid=208033 (http://bans.ambrosia-servers.eu/ban_list.php?bid=208033)
for example :) that ban, who is that admin :P?
Easy ... Dota player .. Means either me or card clasher.
Not me ... >>>> Card clasher
Solved? xD
:D
@Pim, I actually set up all the SteamIDs to every specific admin so that it shows who the anonymous admin is, but some noob deleted the admins in the database. (Raven)
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Stop Obama getting the credit for my bans please :) "Playername 'xD Bitch Please xD' has been banned by admin 'Obamma' "
I mean I know he thinks he's the bee's knees and all being POTUS but really?
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Stop Obama getting the credit for my bans please :) "Playername 'xD ***** Please xD' has been banned by admin 'Obamma' "
I mean I know he thinks he's the bee's knees and all being POTUS but really?
isn't this caused due to the player assist thingy on dust2/public/dm......?
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Stop Obama getting the credit for my bans please :) "Playername 'xD ***** Please xD' has been banned by admin 'Obamma' "
I mean I know he thinks he's the bee's knees and all being POTUS but really?
isn't this caused due to the player assist thingy on dust2/public/dm......?
It is.
Sadly, people love having kill assists. But i don't ;D this is why i love clanwars !
when someone low hp .. and i nade him .. while my friend could have killed him ... makes me feel >> ;D
I would suggest removing the assist plugin or trying to find 1 that's working better if there is .. but no one will agree ;D
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Stop Obama getting the credit for my bans please :) "Playername 'xD ***** Please xD' has been banned by admin 'Obamma' "
I mean I know he thinks he's the bee's knees and all being POTUS but really?
isn't this caused due to the player assist thingy on dust2/public/dm......?
It is.
Sadly, people love having kill assists. But i don't ;D this is why i love clanwars !
when someone low hp .. and i nade him .. while my friend could have killed him ... makes me feel >> ;D
I would suggest removing the assist plugin or trying to find 1 that's working better if there is .. but no one will agree ;D
Kill assist is like the main factor that the servers are full. So I advise that you stick with the one you currently have.
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Stop Obama getting the credit for my bans please :) "Playername 'xD ***** Please xD' has been banned by admin 'Obamma' "
I mean I know he thinks he's the bee's knees and all being POTUS but really?
isn't this caused due to the player assist thingy on dust2/public/dm......?
It is.
Sadly, people love having kill assists. But i don't ;D this is why i love clanwars !
when someone low hp .. and i nade him .. while my friend could have killed him ... makes me feel >> ;D
I would suggest removing the assist plugin or trying to find 1 that's working better if there is .. but no one will agree ;D
Kill assist is like the main factor that the servers are full. So I advise that you stick with the one you currently have.
Okay :-[
But no one can change his nick ... and the ban bug. ;D
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Okay :-[
But no one can change his nick ... and the ban bug. ;D
Reconnect to change your nickname and about the ban bug, you've got a decent team of coders that can work on it unless there is something that needs more attention.
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Then it should have been put in that way: NO changing nicknames without informing general audience
I dont see the problem but ok :P Im playing with the same nickname for 12 years already.
@Fisu i removed your post. First of all. Its a ADMIN HQ topic. Not for the public.
2nd of all. U have no clue where the hell u are talking about so be quiet if u dont have intel.
Sounds kind of friendly..If you have shining blue letters it wont give you right pashing the admins who are doing the main work of community.
And why is admins oblicated using stable nickname? If HQ dont do it as well. Leadership comes from top to down...and don't then even expect regular members use own nick in servers also...HALLELUJA => We have chaos going on..None of players don't know who actually ban them..
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Stop Obama getting the credit for my bans please :) "Playername 'xD ***** Please xD' has been banned by admin 'Obamma' "
I mean I know he thinks he's the bee's knees and all being POTUS but really?
isn't this caused due to the player assist thingy on dust2/public/dm......?
It is.
Sadly, people love having kill assists. But i don't ;D this is why i love clanwars !
when someone low hp .. and i nade him .. while my friend could have killed him ... makes me feel >> ;D
I would suggest removing the assist plugin or trying to find 1 that's working better if there is .. but no one will agree ;D
Kill assist is like the main factor that the servers are full. So I advise that you stick with the one you currently have.
It's the admin team - all new players always are happy to see skilled and nice admins who keep up the server as hi skill level playground :)
Kill assist rather would be a side factor IMHO.
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Problem: Card Clasher
Solution: Sack! Card Clasher
I never bothered going through every posts but this thread is too tempting not to troll.
p/s: Just dropping by to say "Hello" . :P
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Then it should have been put in that way: NO changing nicknames without informing general audience
Yes I Agree, Maybe you can Develop The known application form for changing nicks, and Possibly make it happen with (Accepted/Denied) app's, like Not to allow changing nick for a stupid reason, Also no allowing changing it many times a year !
Also I'm Going to Suggest to Rearrange the Topics in it right section, Cause I'm facing a trouble when i wanna create a topic , I hesitate in where to post it, there are a lot of section that may be merged in one, that will give much advantages, like reducing the sections which makes it easy to Find/Create Topics.
Also I Suggest To make a ("Follow" Button or a tick-box) Which permits us to Get a notification in our own "Show New Replies to you posts" link when its ticked to be followed,
More Explanation (Cause i think somepeople wont understand my idea)
For example i want to be announced about the new post that has been added recently on the 'Unban panel Board", all i do is tick the box in that section/Post and i will be able to see all new replies/post only in the followed section/post.. some of you may tell me that there is a (Show unread posts since last visit) link well ,,, thats from my opinion a bit more for high staff and not us, as we may not want to see the unread post in all section , only the one that we are interested in ... !
Rawr I Just want to add that you are the most helpful here from my opinion and doing a great job, really thank you alot !
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Then it should have been put in that way: NO changing nicknames without informing general audience
Yes I Agree, Maybe you can Develop The known application form for changing nicks, and Possibly make it happen with (Accepted/Denied) app's, like Not to allow changing nick for a stupid reason, Also no allowing changing it many times a year !
Also I'm Going to Suggest to Rearrange the Topics in it right section, Cause I'm facing a trouble when i wanna create a topic , I hesitate in where to post it, there are a lot of section that may be merged in one, that will give much advantages, like reducing the sections which makes it easy to Find/Create Topics.
Also I Suggest To make a ("Follow" Button or a tick-box) Which permits us to Get a notification in our own "Show New Replies to you posts" link when its ticked to be followed,
More Explanation (Cause i think somepeople wont understand my idea)
For example i want to be announced about the new post that has been added recently on the 'Unban panel Board", all i do is tick the box in that section/Post and i will be able to see all new replies/post only in the followed section/post.. some of you may tell me that there is a (Show unread posts since last visit) link well ,,, thats from my opinion a bit more for high staff and not us, as we may not want to see the unread post in all section , only the one that we are interested in ... !
Rawr I Just want to add that you are the most helpful here from my opinion and doing a great job, really thank you alot !
If you click on the Ambrosia logo on the specific bord you want, it will show you all unread replies and topics just for that section.
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Ow the obama thing was my fault, I think I was dead so my name didn't change immediately.
On-Topic- More player related events if anything....
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Everyone knows that I would support a hidenseek server >D
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Everyone knows that I would support a hidenseek server >D
+1
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I would add GunGame server ,its a server where you can have fun.
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Be more strict about activity on Deathmatch admins!
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Be more strict about activity on Deathmatch admins!
Judging the activity of admins in a server, is always difficult and some times not fair.
You can't force them to be 3 h a day active. Some can play only at weekends, but when, they are usefull. What DM need's is just more admins.
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Be more strict about activity on Deathmatch admins!
Judging the activity of admins in a server, is always difficult and some times not fair.
You can't force them to be 3 h a day active. Some can play only at weekends, but when, they are usefull. What DM need's is just more admins.
Its not, just ask them to be active and if they're not warn/suspend/demote them, simple.
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I don't see any point of this, you see guys you are too scared to listen things that you don't like. I could write a long list of the things but I don't see a good reason anymore. First of all all my posts are or jokes or some fun sarcastic remarks. I will not cry for you Argentina! if someone will try to kick my ass again.
Popy and cc. The guys I had the most trouble lately. If you would reread my last 30 posts and look them all together you will see nothing but I'm having a good laugh about these gentleman.
Why?
A good staf personel.. Describe them. Well in the office all staff must be kind, smart... Here in forums I was looking for the same professional attitude but rofl. Just look those threats. Fm plays the harsh guy and uc is mr unreplacible. On any bad feedback what is your reaction? You close the topic and warn to delete it LOL.
Yes drama etc can rip Ambro apart but your as staf responsibility is to act professional. I'm sorry to bothering you all but I really think that popey and cc have a long way to become a professional "keyboard warriors". Professional staff would respond in a calm mature manner even on 9 yo rager kid posts. Look Ezza or Rawr as example. Have you ever seen them threatening anyone? Look around and think please....
We are CS gamers. We love a game and gather here just for that reason, nothing else.
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Sad that these days warnings are being handed over like it's on sale. I see people calling others "keyboard warriors" when in fact you're like them. People clearly forgot what we're supposed to do in these forums which is to have fun in a respectful manner.
Instead, what I'm seeing is a bunch of people raging on each other for ridiculous reasons and the ocasional staff member warning someone because he ran out of arguments and felt he had to do something to prove his authority. Having a rank does not give you the right to treat other people like garbage or has any effect on your ball size, unlike certain people think.
You've to think if this is how this forum's supposed to be. You can look the other way and pretend nothing happened or you act and make a move.
@ThEnd Mate I don't know why you keep spending your latin with this. If I were you, I'd save it and use it in a place where you could make a difference and not in this shit that isn't going anywhere; it's pointless.
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Wise words mate :)
Indeed most of the times I was surprised to not see replies like: ok let's see what is your problem, we accept your all feedback and we can discuss it on the new thread.
I was warned for a sarcastic and mature remark on a offtopic post made by the staff member. Yes we all do spam sometimes. For a fun, keeping a good feeling around. By saying that I could pay Casper to remove someone or a funny "what will you do if I will become a fm again" was nothing but to remind that indeed you are not replacible. Keeping this in mind always help people to develop their skills to become one of the kind. However all I seen is rage but not accepting others and mine opinion. People are scared to talk about their thoughts as there is a harsh staff. This reminds me a living in Cuba or USSR where all negative feedback would put you in gulag aka warned and loosing a blessed status from a high staff.
Remeber Rambo or fragment criticising Ambro staff after their resign?! They lost "blessed" status with no chance to ever be back in the staff. I'm now in the same "trash bin" with them along with nip or anyone else who will agree with me. I don't need to say I'm having a great support from many members who are not jet ready to say their word on this as there is harsh watchdogs who will threat them bad and turning in the staff eyes as "bad ambrosians"..
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Expecting people following the given rules we have in Ambrosia, since I have not broken them recently and I am not the part of Staff. But it wont give members to behave also how they would, the thing is when you warn someone without any good argumented reason is SCHEISSE.
And I am wondering what is the function of Feedback board? Does everything in here must be positive feedback? Do you really think Ambrosia as community is perfect without no flaws.
@ Popay, friendly reminder for you...
First of all stop threatening me without any good reason. I don't care if your rank would be Emperor or FM => Regular members gonna see forest beyond trees. I give you feedback about things I saw and not my problem if you can't take critics which were not towards YOU.
Can I ask what you do in business situation: When customer says your product is shit/broken and not working like it should? You gonna say him stfu and excuse for your bad behaviour you gonna say : This is the way I am?
You should remember that the community staff is the MARKETING group for whole Ambrosia. The staff reflects the image of the real Ambrosia, if one staff member is acting rudely towards others and not followin the rules he should. What kind of image you think it will Lead in here?
I am well aware of my reputation here, and all started the times Ipawn and friends joined the HOUSE. I was way more strict than other staff towards them and harsh. But the thing is they were the ones attacking and hacking towards Ambrosia. I know most of staff has boxed me in "black box"
Well some things I am stubborn which comes to fair of gaming. Example there were times when I was used for hitting box to some members for "lvl up" their rank in this community. But that's the past which we can't do nothing no more. Only future is ahead for us all and hope ambrosia still has years to come.
This is gaming community which has lots of kids playing. I don't expect Ambrosia to be top respected brands in cs 1.6.
Sincerely JohnNie RAMBATEN
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Your points of view have been noted by an Emperor.
- The warning system will be more clearer and accurate
- The warning removal will be redone with regulations in place to help avoid issues like this
- The forum administration (everyone with forum priviledges) has been reminded about the use of the warning system as a last resort.
- The reminder of free speech, should it be criticising with valid points of view is to be upheld on this forum as long as it complies with the Forum Rules.
We are looking into this growing issue. And some changes are going to be made.
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Your points of view have been noted by an Emperor.
- The warning system will be more clearer and accurate
- The warning removal will be redone with regulations in place to help avoid issues like this
- The forum administration (everyone with forum priviledges) has been reminded about the use of the warning system as a last resort.
- The reminder of free speech, should it be criticising with valid points of view is to be upheld on this forum as long as it complies with the Forum Rules.
We are looking into this growing issue. And some changes are going to be made.
That's nice to hear...Would someone remove my "watched" also 8)
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Rambatan, you have a point there. But you also have to understand that some of replies from users like yourself has words/hidden insults in them where some people take it too personal and react to it. And you can't really blame them for it. It all goes down the cycle. Remember I said that no one is without a guilt?
About warnings issued etc, we will look into this etc.
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Rambatan, you have a point there. But you also have to understand that some of replies from users like yourself has words/hidden insults in them where some people take it too personal and react to it. And you can't really blame them for it. It all goes down the cycle. Remember I said that no one is without a guilt?
Yeah I know there might be hidden insults also in my posts... And I can be flexible things, but if someone is giving you feedback => It aint nice to be firstly called DRAMA QUEEN :D.......But for real if you are warning someone with +30 , I expect there is under my post the name and the real reason for WARNING..I was warned the "sins of PAST"..
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That is true too. Well hopefully there is going to be change for the better on this particular issue. Which has been growing for a while.
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About previous replies towards me:
- Everyone can always post positive and negative feedback, if they find the right words for it and be mature in a debate.
On topic: I suggest giving out admins to people who are active mature but do not apply for one, like a gratitude for their activity and good manners.
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Rambatan, you have a point there. But you also have to understand that some of replies from users like yourself has words/hidden insults in them where some people take it too personal and react to it. And you can't really blame them for it. It all goes down the cycle. Remember I said that no one is without a guilt?
Yeah I know there might be hidden insults also in my posts... And I can be flexible things, but if someone is giving you feedback => It aint nice to be firstly called DRAMA QUEEN :D.......But for real if you are warning someone with +30 , I expect there is under my post the name and the real reason for WARNING..I was warned the "sins of PAST"..
I was called a "keyboard warior" and someone again is going on deleting spree.. Popey you? :D
I post this as a serious point out of a fm who can't have a tact but instead is just warning or deleting things he don't like..
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Rambatan, you have a point there. But you also have to understand that some of replies from users like yourself has words/hidden insults in them where some people take it too personal and react to it. And you can't really blame them for it. It all goes down the cycle. Remember I said that no one is without a guilt?
Yeah I know there might be hidden insults also in my posts... And I can be flexible things, but if someone is giving you feedback => It aint nice to be firstly called DRAMA QUEEN :D.......But for real if you are warning someone with +30 , I expect there is under my post the name and the real reason for WARNING..I was warned the "sins of PAST"..
I was called a "keyboard warior" and someone again is going on deleting spree.. Popey you? :D
I post this as a serious point out of a fm who can't have a tact but instead is just warning or deleting things he don't like..
Actually that was me.
Also Rambo's post was deleted for just having smileys on it.
Post was classed as useless in my eyes without any form of idea behind it. This topic you need to elaborate a bit better please.
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Yeah I know...That was TheEnd's fault...I modified it little bit but you was faster..
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Okay. Calling me as keyboard warrior from popay who is a forum moderator was plain offensive. Despite his threats + deleting my posts make me go this - public way.
Or I am completely wrong by asking staff who personally don't like me to act as the staff of their ranks leaving personal issues behind. We all are keyboard warriors sometimes when tensions get high. In this topic we are just continuing a disscusion of democracy basics. In politics people like named staff would be imidiatly disposed as the public picture to the new and old members is scary.
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On topic: I suggest giving out admins to people who are active mature but do not apply for one, like a gratitude for their activity and good manners.
GOOD POINT POPEY, not because the player is in a clan or is in high staff steam friend list, i add loyality to the community,mean a min hours playing in the server ,and active in the forum.
optional: a vote from admins (each servers) to accept/denie an application
a minmum age for admin responsablity
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On topic: I suggest giving out admins to people who are active mature but do not apply for one, like a gratitude for their activity and good manners.
Hmm, if someone is active and mature they got an own decision in applying for administration.
Most of the active guys just wanna play cs and dont wanna be bothered to much with dealing with rulebreakers and stuff like that since they are just enjoying a game.
So if someone applies for that and we know that he can handle it because he is active and mature. Yea the decision is fairly easy to accept him quickly as a admin.
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Yeah, but we could offer them, it's on them whether they will accept or not. :)
Consider it as a favor from ambrosia for their everyday loyalty. :)