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Recruitment & Justice => Staff Complaints & Misconduct => Resolved Staff Complaints => Topic started by: SnigelskyttN on December 05, 2011, 11:35:11 pm
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First of all, is this guy really a part of the Ambrosia crew?
He uses it as a tag while acting like a ****, just thought you should know.
So basically, I joined the public server and cs_assault_1337 or cs_aztec was on (cant remember which one).
People were annoyed and complaining so I followed protocoll and made a vote: amx_vote "New map?" Yes No (Ensuring that people actually wanted a new map)
14 out of 20 or so voted yes, a clear majority. So I then asked for map suggestions to put in the vote.
All of a sudden a vote appears with pretty shitty maps, apart from de_inferno and de_dust2.
Inferno gets voted, right after the map starts Xenoke is like "Ah you can thank me, I saved your day!" n stuff.
Ofcourse I got pissed coz I was putting down effort into making it properly and then he comes and just does a vote with the maps HE likes.
I asked him why the hell he did it. What was his reply? "Dont cry kid".
I respect other admins, I havent had a problem with a single admin, but this is just ridicilous...
Others complained about him aswell (just check resolved complaints etc.).
// DenniS
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Sh1tty and p1ssed is swearing btw mate.Also.about month ago you came in and said that you hate the map , after couple of responces without any votemap you change it . what the hell you can complain if you not following the rules ? [high staff can check the logs if they want to , classic server, about month ago] why i didn't report you ? we all do mistakes.thats not gross misconduct . but now , when you complain about others i would like to mention about that .
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This complain is cos he made votemap instead of you? ::)
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all what i can say is that xenoke one of the best admins of ambrosia is :)
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Xenoke certainly is not the best admin I have seen here, but sometimes we have the bad days although the attitude shouldnt be like this. Snigels, there are no evidence then of the attitude of him. I don't think this is a real report, more like saying that you are troubled by him which makes an issue.
Also, if your an admin why your forum rank is not updated?
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Snigels is right, there's been countless reports of him auto banning just as soon as someone headshots him with no demo claiming he knows how to spot cheaters when he clearly doesn't, he swears on the server, randomly changes maps, uses white chat more than he should,definitely not the best admin on that server.
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all what i can say is that xenoke one of the best admins of ambrosia is :)
stop asslicking seriously.
and snigs is a better admin than u and xenoke put togher.
ok now get your head our of peoples asses.
and stop putting stupid asslicking input into peoples reports. Okey?
rant over.
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Drake there are some things you just can not post?
Why would Colombia do that? Xenoke is just an ordinary admin, not even higher rank. I think your response is out of order. It maybe irritating sometimes that Colombia likes to give complements, but have you ever thought that he maybe this kind of person who actually looks at good things in people? I have my issues with Colombia but I think your response is hardly justifying. There is a rule about showing respect to other admins and I believe other members too.
He has a right to say what he thinks about members - so do you, but there are limits.
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stop asslicking seriously.
and snigs is a better admin than u and xenoke put togher.
ok now get your head our of peoples asses.
and stop putting stupid asslicking input into peoples reports. Okey?
rant over.
Drake you probably think you are an example to others, which is a pity.
When you reply, you have to be aware of the position you have in the forum. What position do you have? Let me think... oh, you're an admin, which makes those kind of comments completly unacceptable. Instead of telling others to "pull their head out of their ass" maybe you should try to use yours to say something with meaning or, at least, decent.
Take care, Nip_
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mate.
atleast i dont talk about people behind there back lol.
i tell it to them.
might of been a bit harsh.. but dont make stupid lines that at not nessasery. snigs is an amzing admin. so coloumbia is trying to say that hes wrong in his report.
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@ Pirate
I am pretty sure that you then misunderstood the situation.
I never changed the map simply coz I personally disliked it, not without ensuring that a clear majority wants it changed aswell.
Responsibility is something I value highly, I am trying my best to make those who appointed me feel good about that decision.
@ Stevko
Read my first post again.
I was "following protocoll" while he just did as he pleased, and then insulted me for about 4 minutes straight for no apparant reason at all.
@ Colombia
Didn't you get a few complaints yourself aswell?
"Similar children plays the best with eachother" (Swedish saying, I dunno how to properly translate it but I hope you get my point).
@ Sami
I was hoping that evidence wouldnt be required in this case. If he managed to become a part of the AMBROSIA CREW I am assuming he wont BS and be honest about what happened.
Since the forum got hacked things have been rather "chaotic". Alot of posts I made were lost and I havent had the time nor will to ask for a fix (these forums are EXTREMELY laggy on my computer).
@ Tasha & Drake
Thank you for your support.
@ Cersei
Hes just... a regular admin?
He is claiming to be a part of the ambrosia crew (Crew in my eyes = Owners / Head administrators).
@ Drake #2
Yet again, thanks alot for your support Drake, I appreciate your kind words!
But NiP is in a way right, don't get yourself in trouble because of me ;P
@ NiP
So you're trying to meet an "agressive post" by sarcasm and downtalk?
Smooth move, perhaps you should think your posts through a little more aswell.
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What are you guys talking about?
Drake not being a two face is a great quality, but there are ways to be direct. Colombia knows exactly very well what I dont like about him and why. I think you should be warned for being rude.
Whatever Xenoke maybe claiming Colombia knows very well he is not a high staff. Oh yes and meeting aggressive post with the sarcasm is much better then meeting it with aggression.
Oh I see only post you find for your taste was the one who actually supported you not the ones that made sense. To be honest I do not see what are you complaining about, Xenoke made a vote he has not broken any rules. Oh sorry it was not the maps you liked? He said go cry? you know why? cause he is fed up with people always having their eyes peered to frame someone and very quick to take ss and demos. Always quick to tell admin how bad he is but never appreciating his presence when there is map to be changed or a cheater caught.
Never encourage insulting people if you have some decency.
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Very well said Cersei
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Nov 28, 2011 @ 8:04pm, xenoke swears + insults my friend saying hes lowbob because hes owning him QQ. admins usually only get complaints if they do something wrong, tbh i can remember i was threatened with a ban before for saying "go cry" because its considered disrespecting, as well as referring to someone as a "kid". admins shouldnt talk like this to players OR admins in the server, its just asking for trouble. snigs clearly isn't a child or doesn't act like a child so he had no reason to be called a kid
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With all the respect, SnigelskyttN, what you call an "agressive post" i call it offensive and i only replied because it's not the first time drake talks of Colombia like that.
To conclude, after reading your reply, you said "thank you for the kind words" (refering to drake's previous reply), but honestly didn't you saw a complete lack of respect that was showed towards an admin? This is what i think is unacceptable.
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I read your first post properly, dont worry. But my question is still same, you complain cos he made votemap instead of you lol? Seriously, i agree what did Cersei say, you made vote if they want change map, and he made votemap, whats the abuse or problem here? I dont understand what did piss you. Maybe he shouldnt tell you "Dont cry kid" but about the vote thing, its not abuse.
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I dont think he's aiming at the point it's abuse, he's aiming at the point he asked for map suggestions to make the vote from the players, so then the players could choose the type of maps they wanted, but then xenoke did a vote with the maps that he wanted, not maps that the players had suggested.
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But this pissed him so much? Admins can put any maps to the vote. Dont need to ask players for suggestiong, i believe there would be atleast 8 suggested maps.
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to be then told "dont cry kid" yeh i guess he got pissed at that, usually admins threaten to ban for this for "disrespect". ive seen countless people be kicked for similar things, its about respecting colleagues and respecting their work. if he asked for map suggestions why would xenoke have to butt in and do a vote for maps he wanted?
really dont get this forum.. its constantly preached to show RESPECT to all, but then this admin who's clearly shown a lack of respect to players AND admins a number of times no one cares about, whereas if some noob randomly called an admin a "kid" and said "dont cry" the situation would be completely different. practice what you preach ffs.. if you excuse some situations where people show lack of respect then excuse ALL SITUATIONS and let everyone flame all they want to each other.
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Still waiting for a responds of Xenoke.
Did he truely said: Don't cry kid?
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to be then told "dont cry kid" yeh i guess he got pissed at that, usually admins threaten to ban for this for "disrespect". ive seen countless people be kicked for similar things, its about respecting colleagues and respecting their work. if he asked for map suggestions why would xenoke have to butt in and do a vote for maps he wanted?
really dont get this forum.. its constantly preached to show RESPECT to all, but then this admin who's clearly shown a lack of respect to players AND admins a number of times no one cares about, whereas if some noob randomly called an admin a "kid" and said "dont cry" the situation would be completely different. practice what you preach ffs.. if you excuse some situations where people show lack of respect then excuse ALL SITUATIONS and let everyone flame all they want to each other.
But Tasha, he got pissed before Xenoke told him "Dont cry kid". It wasnt nice from him, but i am talking about votemap. He got pissed cos Xenoke made votemap instead of him, it wasnt cos Xenoke told him "Dont cry kid". So i just ask, he got so pissed just cos someone else made votemap.
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oke this is for drake :) this is the last time that i ask you to respect me :) and i did not say that the other admin was wrong! i just let my opinion and drake remember the next time you talk to me again like that i will repport you :) one of the rules to be an admin is respecting other admins and apparently you don't know the rules :) read the rules first and then buy admin rights! do not play with fire drake :) and drake? do you know the difference between opinion and support? i don't think you know that! because i can see the lack of education that you have
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@ Cersei
Did you understand a single thing of what I said?
Your arguments for Xenoke are very weak and makes little sense.
@ Smitten
You're joking, right?
@ NiP
I know you are right dude, I meant no offense.
Just saying that you approached him in the wrong manner, your sarcasm and downtalk will just fire him up even more, instead of "proving a point".
@ Stevko
I am pissed because he acts like a child. I was trying to respec the players, then he shows up, runs everyone over and then he tries to make himself look like some sort of "savior".
When I asked why and told him to respect the players (one of the basic rules for admins, yeh?), he told me to "shut up kid" and then continued to argue.
When I replied to his insults and asked why he didnt respect other admins he told me to stfu.
And, I respect the players and I havent gotten a single complaint so far (now people like you and Colombia will probably try to set me up for saying that, I guess), and I would like to keep it that way.
Like I said, I want to make the people who appointed me admin feel good about that decision.
I always ensure that the players comes first hand, my personal preferences second.
@ Arne
Yes he did, I do not have proof since print screen does not work on this ****** computer.
But I am assuming that he will be honest and not BM about this (Stevko and Colombia ensured that hes such a great guy).
@ Stevko #2
You either accept the fact that you didnt understand a single word of what I just said or keep making yourself look foolish. I find it annoying how you keep twisting my words.
@ Colombia
If you're going to speak about his education, I can easily tell that you weren't the brightest kid at school either (judging from your spelling, constructing of sentences, arguments & English skill). Just wanted to have that said, now stop team-bashing him and focus on the topic instead.
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Dont try make me bad one. I am not twisting your words, i am replying on what did you say, and what other players replied. I have never said that he is great guy, but since you didnt give any proof, i just have information what you and other players said, i am explaining you that this isnt any abuse. Why he acts like a child? Cos he votemap after you made vote? Admins dont need ask for suggestions from players, they can but dont need. For me it seems as that you are pissed cos you wanted pick your maps but Xenoke was faster. And btw, how did he disrepect players? He just changed map, nothing more, didnt disprespect anyone. And sry, but in my opinion this doesnt look nice when in first post you said he told you "Dont cry kid" and now you say he told you "Shut up kid". I dont think so you make mistake in 2 of 3 words so i am wondering if he even said something to you. Next time, better take proof. And i will tell it again, he shouldnt call you "kid" if he called you like that, i said its not nice but i am talking only about vote. This is up to highstaff.
Edit: Snigel, i am not defending Xenoke or trying to make you bad one. I am just saying that in my opinion this vote isnt some abuse.
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det var droppen som fick bagaren att rinna over // the straw which broke the camels back
call me dumb again arne and ill come to your country and find you and consequences will NEVER be the same, loves tasha x
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maybe because i am from colombia? and my language is spanish? i think i speak english very well if we see that i have studied only one year English :) agree with stevko!
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Since when it became a crime not to speak perfect English on the forum?
I understand perfectly well what are you trying to say and to be honest if I were a guy I would not make a so big a deal about someone telling me to go cry, obviously he told you that because you would not let it off. How can we trust you? where are screen shots? Yeah they do not work? so why make this complaint without evidence we can not go further. Yes Xenoke should have acted like an admin not just a regular player and should not have told you to go cry, but judging by your responses I am sure you were not a perfect lamb yourself. Read all your responses and you will see that they say : Agree with me or I dont wanna read them.
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18 days til Christmas :D :D :D :D
:wub: :wub: :wub:
:P :P
I have nothing against christmas, i am also very happy, but stay on topic pls. ;) (Stevko)
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18 days til Christmas :D :D :D :D
:wub: :wub: :wub:
:P :P
1 min to deleting this post.
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Sorry just trying to defuse the situation a bit :P
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Kelly normally who try to reduce a situation get more bruises than fighting people. Just saying. Spread the love yeah whatever :)
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noone will argue with kelly. cause we all love him to much lol.
On a serious note. colombia. go read your posts lol. and tell me about my education.
Im not really bothered if im smart or not tbh, im doing alright in life atm.
ive got my friends (in real life.) (family, in real life.) ( i got a job in reallife ) ( im studying public services at college)
Nip, less of the sarcasm.
cersei. even tho your fighting against me.. i dno why but i agree with you. yes i was a bit harsh. but i dont think when i say things, im sorry but im not gonna take it bk cause i still believe it was 100% an asslicking sentance that he wrote.
also. colombia. earn respect to be respected, i only give respect if they earn it. e.g. snigs has earned my respect. ive been here longer than you colombia. Snigs also has been here longer than you.
your a person who wants to fit into the crowd, give some time and you will fit in the crowd, no offence but your a new person in this community.
Snigs has been admin on public server... and hes doing amazing.
1. hes active
2. hes caught quite a few hackers
3. hes well respected
4. he earnt his respect.
I dislike people who gang up on people. ( in this situation everyone is ganging up on snigs) and i dont like it. im sticking up for him like a good mate does.
and ye. i may regret what im writing / wrote, cause i might be kicked out of ambrosia.. but ill tell the truth. and i wont lie.
it's the internet colombia.
go report me if u dont like me...
thanks for reading
18 days till christmas.. WHOOOOOOOO
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new in this community? please read my ''about me'' i'm new admin but not new in this community :) and nobody is saying that we are against him! it's just that we can not judge if we can not see any evidence
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i just read this whole topic and i dont even know why you all act like .. you know what. this is seriously ridicilous. is this how it supposed to be? all i see is flame, disrepect. grow up all. and im part of this team?
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i just read this whole topic and i dont even know why you all act like .. you know what. this is seriously ridicilous. is this how it supposed to be? all i see is flame, disrepect. grow up all. and im part of this team?
Nope you're a hacker :D
But i understand what you mean m8 ;)
Hence my post to diffuse the situation... It was all getting a little heated. We are all a team....
Some might be new, some might struggle and some just plain haven't got a clue. It's irrelevant.
But until xenoke himself responds, this particular convo is going nowhere.....
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Can everybody just wait for Xenoke's reply? It might be just a big confusion, where there was no need to start this discussion :).
Loves
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I'm gonna say one thing to you now snigel! Everyone was asking for mapchange so i did! I chose some random maps? What did you say to me? Quote: "why do you chose ur favorite maps bla bla bla, bla bla bla" so i responsed: i just chose some random maps! And u make a problem of that? Telling me what i did? Ur a mindreaderthen? I'm not a ******* dog, i'm a human! I have nothing else to say! If higher staff want me out of ambrosia then they need to decide! I'm not gonna argue about what the answer will be! Its up to them now! So this stupid thing started only cause of "the crazy mapchange".
If i'll be kicked then i would like to say one thing: good luck!
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I dont think he's aiming at the point it's abuse, he's aiming at the point he asked for map suggestions to make the vote from the players, so then the players could choose the type of maps they wanted, but then xenoke did a vote with the maps that he wanted, not maps that the players had suggested.
Haha what is this? I just chose from the first 4 maps AFTER an other admin voted "mapchange yes or no" and it was yes? So this is a reason to start a fight and get angry? if this is true i dont know what i'm still doing here LOL
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@ Stevko
I didnt want to pick the map, I wanted the players to be able to take part in what maps to put in the vote. Democracy you know =)
And I got pissed off because he immediately started insulting and disrespecting me for no apparant reason.
Yes, he said "dont cry", I confused it with "shut up". My memory isnt the best.
Youre entitled to your own opinion but in this particular case I would really appreciate it if you kept it to yourself since it is not in any way contributing to this issue.
@ Colombia
I'll try to be as clear as possible:
You insulted his intelligence so I simply proved to you that you reap what you sow.
And your failure at constructing sentences is hardly related to your English skill, dont you atleast agree to that?
@ Cersei
When did I ever say he should be quiet until he learns better English?!
He insulted Drakes intelligence so I pointed out to him that he is not perfect himself.
Basic stuff you teach young children, dont you agree?
@ Embrace
This is about the respect between admins.
One of the most basic Ambrosia rules, and to be frank: He pissed me off with his BS.
@ Everyone
Why do I need proofs?! Like I said: I tried to take screenshots but it didnt work.
I am simply assuming that only mature people are a part of the ambrosia crew, which Xenoke claims to be.
And I am expecting a mature reply, confession and a constructive argumentation from Xenoke, BS-free.
@ Xenoke
They were asking for a map change and I was making votes and talking to the players for atleast a minute before you decided to have it your way.
I asked if people wanted a new map, alot said yes.
I made a vote, they voted yes.
I asked for suggestions to put in the vote (what maps they wanted instead).
All of a sudden a vote appears with stupid maps apart from the very basic de_dust2. I ask why, and you tell me to "Dont cry kid".
Youre not a dog? Youre a human? Then I hope you F-ing realize that this isnt about the map change.
Its about YOU doing as YOU please, and disrespecting other admins (immediately flaming me with your broken English and unoriginal insults).
I am not trying to have you removed from any position whatsoever. Im simply hoping that you will be more respectful and not act like a ****** in the future. Bless you :)
Edit: D 0 u c h e is a female hygien product. Why is it filtered away? XD
Not like its a horrible word or anything ;P
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Snigel, you have problem read opinions against you or some which doesnt support you. I wont talk anymore, just 1 thing. There is still missing proof, you say this, xenoke say this, word vs word, what now?
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Snigel, you have problem read opinions against you or some which doesnt support you. I wont talk anymore, just 1 thing. There is still missing proof, you say this, xenoke say this, word vs word, what now?
Logs Stevko, Logs :D
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Ofc logs, but if we will see them. He is just talking about what happend, but nothing prove it.
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I'm not gonna answer this anymore! Its only ur way and ur answer! U are right and all the rest is wrong! End of my story! Let higher staff decide!
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snigelskytten i believe you, xenoke is a child man, he thinks he can't die in the game, if someone kill him, he directly will say in admin chat something to that guy, last night when i was playing in DD2 he still cried and talking like a 12 years old child always with his same opinion: 45 million dollar acc cant pwn. he always comes with the same ****
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@ Stevko
No, I do not have a problem with that. Feel free to speak your mind, as long as it contributes to the conversation.
I just don't think you have a point, I honestly do not understand why you're even posting here.
All you're saying is "PROOF?", while I dont really see why proof is needed (as HE is a part of the AMBROSIA CREW while I AM NOT).
It makes no sense at all.
@ Xenoke
If that is your way of looking at it, then so be it.
But I beleive in solving issues like this by talking. But instead you crawl away because you cant meet my argumentations.
I suggest stop this charade, man up and apologize instead. Server logs will prove what you said anyway.
@ Psyduck
Im not surprised, sounds just like him.
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Xenoke or snigelskyttn they are both great admins. They are doing their job well. To bad this fighting amongst admin it should stop.
This isnt going to help the community. I would say just let it be. Just tell him he shouldnt do it like this and its over. We are adults we can talk to each other instead of backstabbing on forum.
Second I noticed some admin abuse some good players. The players is all we care about without any players this community wouldnt excist. So if a player is rude... we should have a mute plugin ( mayb we have it ) so the player with a big mouth will be quiet. Dont kick or ban him for being rude... we admins are adults. We should ignore the little kids... and keep our anger in tone.. I dont like to kick or ban people who dont cheat but just have a big mouth. Hope we can just close this topic and have more respect for each other and the players on the server.
Ryu
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Drake ul on ur attempt at being a admin. i like xenoke n think hes a good admin tbh
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Drake ul on ur attempt at being a admin. i like xenoke n think hes a good admin tbh
r4h we aren't on a hate crusade against drake, indeed i don't like him too, but don't expose the same points again and again.
I'd keep xenoke as admin, rly good guy ingame
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Sngel, ur complain just failed due your acting two days ago in classic..
You call xenoke kid meanwhile when someone from your team TF you, you cried just like that. Called this person - Idiot and said thats first and last warning..
.. Later on you called me *****? ..
Rly both admins do great job! Ambrosia needs skilled admins,.. like you snigel tho. But stop being child, stop swearing and complaining..
Have aa nice xmas =]
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Whatever snigel! Stop assuming what i was thinking! Then it wouldnt have gone this way.. Like i said before, ur were voting for mapchange and it was voted for yes! So i tought i will make a vote! Is that a reason to get angry when some other admin makes an vote and not u? Oh pore little guy! Now end of this discussion! Have a nice holiday!
Ps.: its not that i'm an admin u need to push me? If i feel attacked i will respons, admin or not! People try to bring me down, but i'm not afraid to lose my rights when i'm in my right of responding and then be reported!
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Well you are both good admins and theres no need to fight for silly reasons.
You must communicate well i mean ok one made a votemap change and the other made a mapvote so wheres the bad thing?
But when the other admin asks us something we do not answer him go cry kid etc to provoke him to fight with us cause this is childish and against the rules.
We do not force you to like each other just cause you are both admins and you are in the same team but at least dont provoke and insult eachother. Always respect the others and admins should be an example to respect. So pls read the rules one more time if its needed both of you to avoid such things again that might gets you in trouble and get punished.
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