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Title: [UNBANNED]Banned from DD2 only server. Need explanation.
Post by: lambda on December 04, 2011, 11:32:37 pm
Just been banned from Ambrosia dd2 only server. Here's part of the log file before the ban:

Quote
QFF||NL + a. killed AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA with m4a1
*** i_am_king_too killed jasmina with a headshot from famas ***
*** a. + i_am_king_too killed TNT with a headshot from m4a1 ***
[Mantas]=nbs (RADIO): Fire in the hole!
TNT has left the game
k1ng :  Noob in ct remove my name idiot

QFF||NL (RADIO): Fire in the hole!
TNT connected

I think this was referred to me as my nickname was 'i_am_king_too' and i was ct.
As this was the only warning and in very negative and offensive form I demand explanation from admin. Will provide full log if asked.
Title: [UNBANNED]Banned from DD2 only server. Need explanation.
Post by: Colombia on December 05, 2011, 01:06:22 am
Hi hi :) i banned you !! here is the demo    http://www.mediafire.com/?rnnbjx1by4yl47h     
time:  00:20   i ask the high staffs with all respect!  2 check the logs :)
Title: [UNBANNED]Banned from DD2 only server. Need explanation.
Post by: lambda on December 05, 2011, 01:44:36 am
Hi hi :) i banned you !! here is the demo   http://www.mediafire...rnnbjx1by4yl47h (http://\\\"http://www.mediafire.com/?rnnbjx1by4yl47h\\\")     
time:  00:20   i ask the high staffs with all respect!  2 check the logs :)
So what? You accuse me of using cheats? Where's the reason?
I hope you do realize that I'm a steam player and I've been playing on dd2 only server for a very long time now.
I therefore ask any higher admin to explain to me how exactly I was cheating.
Title: [UNBANNED]Banned from DD2 only server. Need explanation.
Post by: Cersei on December 05, 2011, 08:29:44 am
Oh Dear! Lambda I should be happy that this day came, I have been praying for your ban for ages Muahahahaha (Evil Laugh). My moral enemy and favourite victim.
But on a serious note I really hope you did not ban Lambda for cheating, he is a great player and little a great fun to have on server. Gonna watch the demo but I doubt I'll find anything.
Title: [UNBANNED]Banned from DD2 only server. Need explanation.
Post by: Cersei on December 05, 2011, 08:42:28 am
Alright seriously what did you see here? where do you see cheating? This demo scares me cause if you banned him for cheating God only knows who else you banned wrongly. Most of them do not even make unban requests.
As for K1ng should not ask the other player to change name, not like he was imitating you and had exact same name, Names do not belong to the players and anyone can have anything they like unless it is not racist, flame or offensive in any form or manner. Oh and of course Admin names can not be mimicked for obvious reasons.

P.S. Can anyone move this to unban section?
Title: [UNBANNED]Banned from DD2 only server. Need explanation.
Post by: Colombia on December 05, 2011, 09:23:15 am
the reason is first! because at the time i arrived! players started to complains about cheaters! i banned 2 cheaters      ( i.am.king)    and   ( tintas ) you can see that one of them had the name ( i .am.king ) the high staffs can check that in the logs
!i have a demo of        i am king   !   when i banned ( i am  king  ) you came in with the name  i_am_king_too   so i started recording you! :) i ask the other admins to give me their opinion of the demo! was i wrong for the situation so heavy at the moment or he used?  i clarify that i was looking for other admins to help me with so much clutter in the server but there was no one online so i had a heavy night :)  in any case! the evidence is here! the high staffs decide so wait for high staffs reply  and change your name is not very smart :) much less at night when the most cheaters are online
Title: [UNBANNED]Banned from DD2 only server. Need explanation.
Post by: Cersei on December 05, 2011, 09:35:04 am
One thing you have to learn to take it in when people start complaining about the cheaters, they may call you names and a noob admin but dont let that that quicken your ban. Take your time and spec and if you are not sure do not ban. I have banned before like that so I am not going to be a hypocrite now, but just learn to not trust the players like this, because I have seen them all complain about good players.
Title: [UNBANNED]Banned from DD2 only server. Need explanation.
Post by: Colombia on December 05, 2011, 10:04:26 am
you're right cersei i must admit it's hard when all players are complaining and start insulting each other! and i was just arrived! i always try to avoid these mistakes that's why i always take my time before i am going to ban someone but this time i was very busy and lambda i want to know if you changed your name on purpose or you already had it?
Title: [UNBANNED]Banned from DD2 only server. Need explanation.
Post by: lambda on December 05, 2011, 10:25:17 am
Oh Dear! Lambda I should be happy that this day came, I have been praying for your ban for ages Muahahahaha (Evil Laugh). My moral enemy and favourite victim.
But on a serious note I really hope you did not ban Lambda for cheating, he is a great player and little a great fun to have on server. Gonna watch the demo but I doubt I'll find anything.
Haha. I knew this would turn on me someday Cersei. :) Thanks for your support girl!
the reason is first! because at the time i arrived! players started to complains about cheaters! i banned 2 cheaters      ( i.am.king)    and   ( tintas ) you can see that one of them had the name ( i .am.king ) the high staffs can check that in the logs
!i have a demo of        i am king   !   when i banned ( i am  king  ) you came in with the name  i_am_king_too   so i started recording you! :) i ask the other admins to give me their opinion of the demo! was i wrong for the situation so heavy at the moment or he used?  i clarify that i was looking for other admins to help me with so much clutter in the server but there was no one online so i had a heavy night :)  in any case! the evidence is here! the high staffs decide so wait for high staffs reply  and change your name is not very smart :) much less at night when the most cheaters are online
So basically you are saying that the reason for permanent ban is a similarity to cheater's nickname? Well then show me the rule according to which I'll be banned for nickname that somehow reminds you of cheater's nickname.
Yes, I deliberately changed my nickname, because I thought it was funny. 'Cos a lot of people at that time had word 'king' in their nicknames. i_am_king_too does not say 'i_am_cheater_too'. Even if it did, who cares? You have to actually proove cheating by recording a demo. And in the demo you provided I see no evidence of cheating whatsoever. And yes I will change my nickname in future to which I want and that complies with server's rules. At night or at day I don't care.

I always thought that permanent ban is a really serious thing. Because it's permanent. Therefore it should not be given so easily. I'm seriously disappointed by Ambrosia. I've been playing here for like half a year now. Maybe more. And I really liked it. But this situation drops shadow on whole Ambrosia staff and admins. If paid admins accepted so easily and they make such bad mistakes, then future for Ambrosia looks very sad. Because in this situation admin puts permanent ban and the only reason he come up with is similarity to cheater's nickname.
Title: [UNBANNED]Banned from DD2 only server. Need explanation.
Post by: Sir Kellys Eye on December 05, 2011, 10:42:02 am
here we go again ::)
Title: [UNBANNED]Banned from DD2 only server. Need explanation.
Post by: Cersei on December 05, 2011, 10:47:45 am
Kelly's :devil_smile:
Title: [UNBANNED]Banned from DD2 only server. Need explanation.
Post by: Colombia on December 05, 2011, 12:00:04 pm
lol kelly haha      (So basically you are saying that the reason for permanent ban is a similarity to cheater's nickname)  basically i'm saying that you was cheating too :)  and if you want to change your name when the hell you want! then do not cry because you are banned by mistake  -.-  and if you think being admin is easy! so why you don't buy the admins rights or i can pay one month for you so you can try it self :)  maybe you can be the first admin in the world that have never made a mistake :) and i can see now that you changed your name on purpose! so this is what happens to people for not taking the admins seriously! ambrosia should seriously ban people who want to play with the admins  is incredible that they play with us like that and we are who have to blame    i'm sorry if it seems like i am upset but that is the true :)
Title: [UNBANNED]Banned from DD2 only server. Need explanation.
Post by: Cersei on December 05, 2011, 03:05:21 pm
Colombia Lambda said why he changed his name. He is a really nice guy, polite and likes to have fun. He has never disrespected an admin or done something to make our job harder. He stated why he changed his name. This is not a problem, problem is where do you see a cheating in this demo????
Title: [UNBANNED]Banned from DD2 only server. Need explanation.
Post by: Ed on December 05, 2011, 04:36:25 pm
You must be joking? So all this situation of permanent ban is because the player changed nick?
This is  the reason why there are some strong ideas to reduce the power on paid admins..
Title: [UNBANNED]Banned from DD2 only server. Need explanation.
Post by: Alves on December 05, 2011, 07:36:05 pm
Hi, i've watched the demo and honestly i don't see anything but a good player. Lambda plays a lot in dd2, i'm sure he's clean and must be unbanned soon.
Switching the subject, i wanted to say my opinion regarding the paid admins issue.
I became a paid admin with the purpose of helping Ambrosia, both financially and because they had few active admins. I see Ambrosia as a outstanding community, far better than any other i've ever known. But the latest problems envolving paid admins made me rethink if i want to keep my paid admin rights. I support the ideias that some of you had, such as a trial period for paid admins which makes sense if we think that cs admins have that too. I'm considering giving up my rights and apply for cs admin somewhere in the future, but one thing is clear: something has to be done.
Best regards, Nip_
Title: [UNBANNED]Banned from DD2 only server. Need explanation.
Post by: lambda on December 06, 2011, 12:20:02 am
lol kelly haha      (So basically you are saying that the reason for permanent ban is a similarity to cheater's nickname)  basically i'm saying that you was cheating too :)  and if you want to change your name when the hell you want! then do not cry because you are banned by mistake  -.-  and if you think being admin is easy! so why you don't buy the admins rights or i can pay one month for you so you can try it self :)  maybe you can be the first admin in the world that have never made a mistake :) and i can see now that you changed your name on purpose! so this is what happens to people for not taking the admins seriously! ambrosia should seriously ban people who want to play with the admins  is incredible that they play with us like that and we are who have to blame    i'm sorry if it seems like i am upset but that is the true :)
Again, where exactly you are saying that I was cheating??? I want you to show me your reply saying something like "here's the demo showing that you were  wallhacking/aimbotting/etc". Hell, just show me where you told at least once that the reason for ban was cheating before your last reply.
Your excuse is very lame. I don't really care if it's hard or not. If you can't do it properly, then just quit. And I know for sure that once admin I will not permanently ban players for having nicknames that SOMEHOW remind me of cheater's nickname.
As Cersei said, I don't know how many more people you banned just because you didn't like them. I'm just sad that Ambrosia staff allows people like colombia to be admins. Seriously guys, you are ruining your own community.

P.S. Thanks guys for your support. It's reassuring to see a lot of sane people in this community, but one black sheep can ruin it all.
Title: [UNBANNED]Banned from DD2 only server. Need explanation.
Post by: Colombia on December 06, 2011, 08:30:39 am
nippp noo!!! nip brother do not think that!! maybe it's better if you wait! to see what happens :)     and lambda i do not ban people just for fun :) 're wrong if you think that   :)  sami and i'm sorry if you can not read but if you read a little above!! you can see which was the reason :)
Title: [UNBANNED]Banned from DD2 only server. Need explanation.
Post by: Ed on December 06, 2011, 08:40:36 am
Actually Columbia, you should re read what you wrote, also you should re read what Lambada wrote, because your taking it the wrong way. But wait, that still wouldn't matter for a permanent ban or would it?

Nip, I agree with you, plus you can still donate it if you want to help Ambrosia :)
Title: [UNBANNED]Banned from DD2 only server. Need explanation.
Post by: Cersei on December 06, 2011, 09:58:09 am
Nip if you do you have a full support from me and many other guys
Title: [UNBANNED]Banned from DD2 only server. Need explanation.
Post by: Alves on December 06, 2011, 10:32:50 am
Nip if you do you have a full support from me and many other guys

Thank you ;).
Title: [UNBANNED]Banned from DD2 only server. Need explanation.
Post by: Jack.cN on December 06, 2011, 12:47:22 pm
you know there is a command.

amx_nick "player name" "change name" ¬_¬.

Also the demo don't actually provide anything, you just banned him for not changing his name.
Title: [UNBANNED]Banned from DD2 only server. Need explanation.
Post by: Arne on December 06, 2011, 03:44:07 pm
He's clear if you ask me?
Title: [UNBANNED]Banned from DD2 only server. Need explanation.
Post by: Colombia on December 06, 2011, 05:57:24 pm
you seriously think that i'm going to ban someone permanently for his name? lolll
Title: [UNBANNED]Banned from DD2 only server. Need explanation.
Post by: Ed on December 06, 2011, 06:02:49 pm
If you did for cheating, then I am sorry, but as others said he is clean. Not surprised really, plus where do you see hack? Maybe give us some clue? I mean either you really can't spot a cheater or you just wanted to ban this guy for no reason, the most obvious reason is the nick.
Title: [UNBANNED]Banned from DD2 only server. Need explanation.
Post by: Ezzα on December 06, 2011, 11:01:40 pm
Your request have been reviewed we have decided to UNBAN YOU.Good luck and dont get yourself into trouble again.