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Title: [UNBANNED][CS] Unban Request fReideN
Post by: fReideN on December 28, 2013, 08:33:18 pm
Name: fReideN
SteamID:STEAM_0:0:34262660
Reason:Insulting/racism/gun abuse
Date & Time: DECEMBER 28, 2013  20:10 GMT
Admin: Prototype
Server: Jailbreak
Have you been banned before: Yes
Other: Well today me and Google were making fun of each other as we always do for fun. prototype was in the server and he saw me making fun of Google but instead of warning him i was the one to get warned so i decided to stop.  Google was not given any warnings. Then prototype started bringing up more incidents for example yesterday i managed to shoot one of the gun "spawns" at the last second so i managed to gun abuse. I apologized to m-16, and he said it was okay, prototype quit me but i'm okay with that since i didn't know.
Title: [CS] Unban Request fReideN
Post by: Big Bob on December 28, 2013, 08:33:18 pm
Welcome to the official Unban Request Section in the Ambrosia Forums.

Shortly, the Unban Panel will review and deal with your unban request. In the mean time you must not banevade (Definition: Using any form of proxy or a different IP/Unique ID to evade the ban). This will cause your unban request to be denied immediately!

You should also make sure that your unban request is filled in properly and complies with all the Unban Request Rules (http://www.ambrosia-servers.eu/community/index.php?topic=12.0[/url) and that your ban information is correct from the Banlist (http://bans.ambrosia-servers.eu)(CS 1.6 Only)! If your unban request is not done properly and it doesn't comply with our requirements then we reserve the right not to deal with the request!

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Title: Re: [CS] Unban Request fReideN
Post by: Kasabiii on December 28, 2013, 08:35:54 pm
i think it was a miss understanding , i hope you give this guy a chance , you shouldnt ban him perm if you ask me , just talk to him

P.s : this guy is da best :c unban him :c
Title: Re: [CS] Unban Request fReideN
Post by: bucK on December 28, 2013, 08:38:57 pm
Quote from: Kasabi™ on December 28, 2013, 08:35:54 pm
i think it was a miss understanding , i hope you give this guy a chance , you shouldnt ban him perm if you ask me , just talk to him

P.s : this guy is da best :c unban him :c
this + ik freiden a long time ago he knows rules good and never break them that's why i support him to be unbanned
Title: Re: [CS] Unban Request fReideN
Post by: BuddyTrollsten on December 28, 2013, 08:49:41 pm
He doesn't deserve a perm ban , he is a good person and I know he won't do this again ever again.
And they were having fun like they ALWAYS do :D.
I think a 2 days ban would be more than enough!
Title: Re: [CS] Unban Request fReideN
Post by: Ray on December 28, 2013, 08:50:38 pm
Can you explain what you mean by "making fun of each other" ?
Title: Re: [CS] Unban Request fReideN
Post by: fReideN on December 28, 2013, 08:52:23 pm
Quote from: Ray on December 28, 2013, 08:50:38 pm
Can you explain what you mean by "making fun of each other" ?
hmm well i called him a retard he called me one back he called me a noob english man i called a german then we just started calling each other noobs btw we didnt find any of this offensive
Title: Re: [CS] Unban Request fReideN
Post by: Ray on December 28, 2013, 08:59:40 pm
Quote from: fReideN on December 28, 2013, 08:52:23 pm
Quote from: Ray on December 28, 2013, 08:50:38 pm
Can you explain what you mean by "making fun of each other" ?
hmm well i called him a retard he called me one back he called me a noob english man i called a german then we just started calling each other noobs btw we didnt find any of this offensive
Was this necessary to be done on the server ?
Title: Re: [CS] Unban Request fReideN
Post by: fReideN on December 28, 2013, 09:03:36 pm
Quote from: Ray on December 28, 2013, 08:59:40 pm
Quote from: fReideN on December 28, 2013, 08:52:23 pm
Quote from: Ray on December 28, 2013, 08:50:38 pm
Can you explain what you mean by "making fun of each other" ?
hmm well i called him a retard he called me one back he called me a noob english man i called a german then we just started calling each other noobs btw we didnt find any of this offensive
Was this necessary to be done on the server ?
   
It wasn't really necessary but we were just having fun, thats what the jb server is for anyway..We didn't get offended so i dont see the problem, everybody jokes around in jb server in their own ways
Title: Re: [CS] Unban Request fReideN
Post by: Duke Devlin on December 28, 2013, 09:29:10 pm
proto lets emotion take controll of his ban behavior... best admin evur!
permanent is too harsh for this ice cream
Title: Re: [CS] Unban Request fReideN
Post by: fReideN on December 28, 2013, 09:29:41 pm
Well i do agree with most of the things you've said. But can i ask you why you didnt warn google about anything or why you dont warn anybody else abt insulting when they are in the server? From my point of view you have something against me and would love  to see me banned. + about the racism thing, many people used to call each other indians but nobody got banned, why? wouldnt the indian people get offended, we just done it as a joke.. i didnt mean to offend any german people , tbh i dont even think they would even get offended.. Insulting? Insulting is when another guy gets insulted but that wasnt the case here, i did use words which looked "indecent" but even google knew i done it for a laugh.. + the thing with pinky is sorted out by RONI.
Title: Re: [CS] Unban Request fReideN
Post by: Ray on December 28, 2013, 09:34:03 pm
Quote from: fReideN on December 28, 2013, 09:29:41 pm
Well i do agree with most of the things you've said. But can i ask you why you didnt warn google about anything or why you dont warn anybody else abt insulting when they are in the server? From my point of view you have something against me and would love  to see me banned. + about the racism thing, many people used to call each other indians but nobody got banned, why? wouldnt the indian people get offended, we just done it as a joke.. i didnt mean to offend any german people , tbh i dont even think they would even get offended.. Insulting? Insulting is when another guy gets insulted but that wasnt the case here, i did use words which looked "indecent" but even google knew i done it for a laugh.. + the thing with pinky is sorted out by RONI.
Excuse you ? No one banned ? http://www.ambrosia-servers.eu/community/index.php?topic=23122.0 (http://www.ambrosia-servers.eu/community/index.php?topic=23122.0)
eLement is still banned at this moment for that.
Title: Re: [CS] Unban Request fReideN
Post by: fReideN on December 28, 2013, 09:40:34 pm
Quote from: Ray on December 28, 2013, 09:34:03 pm
Quote from: fReideN on December 28, 2013, 09:29:41 pm
Well i do agree with most of the things you've said. But can i ask you why you didnt warn google about anything or why you dont warn anybody else abt insulting when they are in the server? From my point of view you have something against me and would love  to see me banned. + about the racism thing, many people used to call each other indians but nobody got banned, why? wouldnt the indian people get offended, we just done it as a joke.. i didnt mean to offend any german people , tbh i dont even think they would even get offended.. Insulting? Insulting is when another guy gets insulted but that wasnt the case here, i did use words which looked "indecent" but even google knew i done it for a laugh.. + the thing with pinky is sorted out by RONI.
Excuse you ? No one banned ? http://www.ambrosia-servers.eu/community/index.php?topic=23122.0 (http://www.ambrosia-servers.eu/community/index.php?topic=23122.0)
eLement is still banned at this moment for that.

ive seen many people use racist remarks in the server while admins are present but they didnt seem to get banned , they also took it as a joke.. in that report, well somebody did report it, but that was probably a one off anyway lol, this is the first time ive seen someone get banned for using those remarks..most active jb players would know anyway
Title: Re: [CS] Unban Request fReideN
Post by: fReideN on December 28, 2013, 09:55:54 pm
As i said, that was the first guy i saw getting banned for using the remark "indian". Now abt google you clearly saw him and heared calling me a retarded english man ETC. others players saw this aswell like "Harlem Shake" and he even said to google that hes english aswell but you decided not to do anything to him i didnt even see a single warning for him. But instead you decided to just put everything on me by bringing up incidents which have already been sorted such as the "pinky" incident which RONI sorted out 
Title: Re: [CS] Unban Request fReideN
Post by: ♥Pinky~GirliciousKitten♥ on December 28, 2013, 10:12:54 pm
You're never changing your behavior from the past year freiden
and wait a sec if someone said something about you in a racist way wouldn't u get offended?
You should know that there are other players playing in the server and u need to respect them all and behave as the rules says.
Title: Re: [CS] Unban Request fReideN
Post by: fReideN on December 28, 2013, 10:19:45 pm
Quote from: ♥ ρяincess~ρıпκч ♥ мεσш on December 28, 2013, 10:12:54 pm
You're never changing your behavior from the past year freiden
and wait a sec if someone said something about you in a racist way wouldn't u get offended?
You should know that there are other players playing in the server and u need to respect them all and behave as the rules says.


 Just like i said me and google were joking around like we always do if he found it offensive i would stop and same likewise.
 If u respect me then i respect you thats just my Logic of things
Title: Re: [CS] Unban Request fReideN
Post by: Google Inc. on December 28, 2013, 10:22:35 pm
OK guys allow me to go through this thingy over here, I never play cs with freiden without fighting eachothers xD its something like, because we're friends, We're doing that for a long time, Its actually not the first time i do this and he does that!

The point is, If you wanna deal with the people using the rule that says : "No Swear/Insult/Flame", Then you better permban 90% of the players right there.. Because everybody doing it, The point is, Some admins take actions about it and some admins gives 0 potatos! and some of the admins (Without mention names) are doing it as well!.

For all high staff here, Who care about JB.. Everybody responsible about it, You better take action on this rule :

And 1 more point, Because some people keep joking with eachothers using them, I suggest for you guys to make it like, if the other player complained, then the guy whos swearing should be warned and/or permbanned.

I shouldnt go that further.. But guys i still feel like, Proto banned him cuz the rules doesnt allow that, and Freiden was just joking and he doesnt deserve it.

So you better make a good Rule, And yea i will ask for another chance for freiden, He's an old player, Hes respectful and joyful...
Title: Re: [CS] Unban Request fReideN
Post by: Fisu on December 28, 2013, 10:33:51 pm
Well if he gets warned for this I should too and many others too. I call ray alsow: Little cunt. They also call me a fish, which is in some kind a way a insult but only good friends say it and I laugh with them, but if others say it I tell them to stop as I don't know them.

But for what Prototype banned you I must say he got some good points there. If an Admin asks me to stop doing it I will, till now it didn't happen, so I can continue as long as they see I'm doing it between the lines. He clearly quited you and this should be an information for you to stop doing it.

Well anyway I support for a unban as I know how u play and JB is fun with you.
Title: Re: [CS] Unban Request fReideN
Post by: Koray on December 28, 2013, 11:46:20 pm
Quote from: fReideN on December 28, 2013, 10:19:45 pm
Quote from: ♥ ρяincess~ρıпκч ♥ мεσш on December 28, 2013, 10:12:54 pm
You're never changing your behavior from the past year freiden
and wait a sec if someone said something about you in a racist way wouldn't u get offended?
You should know that there are other players playing in the server and u need to respect them all and behave as the rules says.


 Just like i said me and google were joking around like we always do if he found it offensive i would stop and same likewise.
 If u respect me then i respect you thats just my Logic of things
Alright now im exploading,

1 If you dont if someone is a male/female gamer you should't talk before knowing thinga about someone.
2 We all know that Pinky is a female gamer and you know that aswell and you insulted her and telling her she ias a boy trough your mic.
3 Your attidute was and ia still bad, if it doeant change soon they have to temp ban you for atleast a good  or 2 since.you was banned already.
4 Insulting is against the rules, if someone doesn't like it you should stop immediatly in that case you didnt or you could atleast say sorry to her.
5 Dont talk shit withour knowing who is what.

Freiden i really like you as a friend but going against the rules will set a line at my limits stay banned for a month or so.

(typing on phone can have some bad grammar)
Title: Re: [CS] Unban Request fReideN
Post by: 'PL' on December 29, 2013, 12:25:07 am
Google said that both of them were kidding around and doing stuff only associating with themselves. Is unnatural someone to meddle in other people's conversations  According to the overall reason of him getting banned is ridiculous in my book(you might persecute him for that gun abuse, and if it was an accident and there are no psychological signs of intention then you gotta let him go). Accidents happen, and in places like jailbreak you will always have some corny situations that are clearly against the rules. But I wasn't there so I Don't KNOW!

Here is the list:
Past = 0 negative points(One's Past can only influence a decision(by server admin) when it was done recently or it's repeating indirectly or directly).
GunMenu abuse = 3 negative points (ban for a day-week)
Selftransfering and pinky-freiden argument = solved by head admin

Actually, I would be interested if you locate this type of behavior(from frei) somewhere else than with pinky. Most of your counterarguments against him were taken from yesterdays incident which is archived as resolved.

I tried to make things simple, and not write a big essay, hope is appreciated.

P.S: I didn't really invest that much time and brains to read this, so prototype might find it offensive, would like to apologize :(
Title: Re: [CS] Unban Request fReideN
Post by: fReideN on December 29, 2013, 02:15:22 pm
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I just banned him for Insulting in the server (not allowed in the rules) being racist (also not allowed)

I've already said this before, nobody got insulted/offended

About the gun abuse, i admit it was my fault and I dont mind any punishment for that but permanent is too harsh imo..i already apologized to m-16 when that happened, and u quit me after that which i was okay with <- that problem was sorted out in-game..doesn't deserve a perm ban

EDIT: just saw your post koray, i just wanna let you know that situation has already been sorted out 2 days ago which i have said already.
Title: Re: [CS] Unban Request fReideN
Post by: Kasabiii on December 29, 2013, 02:20:51 pm
well as i see this , he insulted google and google done it too (no offending , just having fun ) gunabuse deserves a ban but not permanent

gunabuse must be solved in these two ways , first make sure if someone selfed then you transferred him back by amx_transfer "name" CT , you must tell him not to gun abuse and disarm him , if he was known (not knew) tell him not to gunabuse and i think he deserves a 1 week ban or less , this is my opinion , take whatever is good from it

Adios amigos :D 

EDIT : i talked to fredin , he said proto quitted him for gunabusing , and he apologized so why you banned him ? o_o
if it was for insulting , this must be in unbanned i think  ::)
Title: Re: [CS] Unban Request fReideN
Post by: fReideN on December 29, 2013, 02:50:10 pm
Quote from: ~[m]|[P]r0t0type#w0w~[m] on December 29, 2013, 02:41:06 pm
Quote from: fReideN on December 29, 2013, 02:15:22 pm
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I just banned him for Insulting in the server (not allowed in the rules) being racist (also not allowed)

I've already said this before, nobody got insulted/offended

About the gun abuse, i admit it was my fault and I dont mind any punishment for that but permanent is too harsh imo..i already apologized to m-16 when that happened, and u quit me after that which i was okay with <- that problem was sorted out in-game..doesn't deserve a perm ban

EDIT: just saw your post koray, i just wanna let you know that situation has already been sorted out 2 days ago which i have said already.

Who told u no one got offended? Well my mom is German and here u go u insulted all her family, happy? And I just perm banned u to let u come in here and do an unban request so the unban panel takes action cause I had enough of this bullsh*t.

I won't post anymore, ppl that know u already said ur attitude ain't that cool and well ur friends supporting u.

May the unban panel decide what is best for u.


Well it seems that you are using your  mum being german as an excuse + how much times do i have to say it? i was just joking around with google, everybody knew that i wasn't insulting every german. except you maybe? heck, he wasnt german anyway. If i wanted to make fun of ALL germans then i wouldve said something about ALL germans but since i have nothing against them and this didnt concern anybody apart from me and google.. and he knew it was a joke anyway
Title: Re: [CS] Unban Request fReideN
Post by: Kasabiii on December 29, 2013, 03:08:33 pm
well proto if you felt insulted you should've told him that im have a german relatives and stop being racist

at least thats what i do when they starts with the indian , german , .....

P.s : he told google like hes noob german he didnt say all germans

im not saying this because hes my friend but thats the truth

adios
Title: Re: [CS] Unban Request fReideN
Post by: DonTodo # on December 29, 2013, 03:12:37 pm
Ugh.
Gimme some time and i will think about a suitable punishment. Even though u are joking with someone it is not really acceptable.

In JB we have indeed a higher tolerance level BUT that doesnt mean everything is accepted.
Swearing not harsh is accepted.
But insulting badly and racism would never be accepted.

Gunbugabuse is therefor also something thats not wanted here.

Ill let u know in a bit what im gonna do.
Title: Re: [CS] Unban Request fReideN
Post by: fReideN on December 29, 2013, 03:15:05 pm
In your old post there isn't any evidence to show that i called pinky a slag, and even if there was.. all of those stuff were sorted out with roni, no point bringing back old screenshots.. that was like 2months ago i think.   And the haters part is there anything wrong with saying a quote which i particularly like? <- all 3 are old screenshots, i dont really say those quotes anymore.
Title: Re: [CS] Unban Request fReideN
Post by: DonTodo # on December 29, 2013, 03:45:46 pm
Your ban will stay till 12-01-2014
See this as a last chance. Start working on your behaviour.

Title: Re: [12-01-14][CS] Unban Request fReideN
Post by: Konvict on January 14, 2014, 10:03:44 pm
UNBANNED